For PVP, i have had alot of success with the Stratios on Sisi so far.

Here is the setup i'm gonna use on it when i get it on TQ.

So it is a myrm that can warp cloaked? maybe a little better agility?
Sounds like a fun ship but paying close to 1 bil for that?

The real question is can they be used in fw plexes so we can farm those juicy warp core stabs.

I have a lot of excellent fits for sentry drones but don't feel like sharing them. The secret is to use expensive modules and to make due with a 3 slot tank in either shield or armor.

I suppose i should also check out fits for heavy drones setups, which save you having to use omnilinks or drone scope ships or DLAs. Which probably leaves you room to fit lasers.

For PVP, i have had alot of success with the Stratios on Sisi so far.

Here is the setup i'm gonna use on it when i get it on TQ.

[Stratios, Suprise Buttsex]

High-slot:

4x 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M
1x Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Med-slot:

1x Corelum C-Type 10MN Microwarpdrive
1x Dark Blood Warp Disruptor
2x Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
1x Dark Blood Small Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400

Low-slot:

1x Reactive Armor Hardener
1x Corpum C-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
1x 1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
2x Drone Damage Amplifier II

Rigs:

2x Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
1x Medium Anti-Explosive Pump II

Drones:

10x Hammerhead II
6x Ogre II (can only use 4 at the same time)
6x Garde II (can only use 4 at the same time)

This setup have 67.2k EHP with a Low-grade Slave set. It does 147 gun DPS (with a +5% to ROF implant), 561 drone DPS with 4x Ogre II deployed, witch will be 708 DPS in total. By using Garde II's, you will top out at 678 DPS. Yes, i use Autocannons to be able to hit smaller ships much better.

When it comes to speed, it does 1298 m/s. With the MWD overloaded it does 1846 m/s. And as we don't know the prices on the Stratios yet, this setup will cost you 595 mill isk according to PYFA. So it might be a bit expensive in total, but it depends on what the ship it self will cost.

It also have used 1134 out of 1150 Powergrid and 479 out of 500 CPU.

For exploring this is what I was going for

Stratios

High -
- Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe
- 'Smokescreen' Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
- 200mm Autocannon II, Barrage M, Hail M, Republic Fleet EMP M, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
- 200mm Autocannon II, Barrage M, Hail M, Republic Fleet EMP M, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
- 200mm Autocannon II, Barrage M, Hail M, Republic Fleet EMP M, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M

Medium -
- Relic Analyzer II
- Data Analyzer II
- Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
- Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
- 10mn afterburner II

Low -
- Centum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer
- 800mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
- Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
- Drone Damage Amplifier II
- Damage Control II

Rig -
- Medium Anti-Thermic Pump II
- Medium Nanobot Accelerator II
- Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II

Drone bay -
- Bouncer II x5
- Garde II x5
- Valkyrie II x5
- Warrior II x5
- Vespa EC-600 x5
- Hornet EC-300 x5

Cargo -
- Nanite Repair Paste x1,200
- Barrage M x6,800
- Hail M x6,800
- Republic Fleet EMP M x6,800
- Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M x6,800
- Navy Cap Booster 400 x12
- Warrior II x10
- Hornet EC-300 x10
- GÇÿYurtGÇÖ Mobile Depot
- Mobile Tractor Units "If possible"


This will be used to do all different scannable sites in New Eden, for exploring the amazing sights to see all over New Eden, and for staying out in 0.0 for long periods of time.

"little better agility???" Its extremely agile. Its agility is between that of a cynabal and a vigilant, which are both absurdly agile ships.

w/ my skills, with no armor plates, stratios has a 4 second align time. nonplated myrmidon has a 8.4s align time.

Both the frigate and cruiser will be worth every isk provided you have a competent gang to run with.

Solo should be viable but that will take some fancy faction fits.

As for me I'll be all over the astero. Explorers beware after rubicon hits.

Nice portrait.

Correct me if i am wrong, but the PvP surprise factor is pretty much gimped by no reduction in targeting delay after decloak? Especially with the warp speed changes, almost everything will be gone in 10s before you can start locking stuff up.

The cloaking skill reduces the sensor recalibration time by 10% per level, so with cloaking 5 it's a 5 second delay. It's very workable, you can also utilize bumping to ensure that you get a lock on on ships that are pre-aligned/fast aligning. Also the warp speed changes do not change the align time so ships will still align the same as they did before. You can also fit a sensor booster to assist in getting the lock on faster.

I used a cloaky Proteus for WH hunting (with no sensor booster) and even with the 5 second delay I never had a ship manage to warp away from me before I got a lock on. You should decloak and immediately OH your MWD and barrel into them to give them a good bump if they're pre-aligned or in a fast aligning ship and have all your tackle gear OH'd so they can't escape the range. Basically your prey has to be on the ball AND be in a very fast aligning ship in order to get away in time. It's not as good as having the recalibration bonus, but it's still pretty good.

Oh yes i updated EFT and played with it, very nice agility :)

But the first guy posting a fit say he can only use 4 heavys, EFT say my bandwidth is 125.
So who is right, 4 or 5 heavys?

Don't worry, we will see them eventually..In your killmail..

The real question is can they be used in fw plexes so we can farm those juicy warp core stabs.

Holy crap, I didn't even consider that!!!!

Here's an all-in-one exploration fit I was thinking of:

[Stratios, Exploration]

Medium Armor Repairer II
Centii C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
10MN Afterburner II
Relic Analyzer II
Data Analyzer II
Large Capacitor Battery II

Sisters Core Probe Launcher
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I


Ogre II x4
Garde II x4
Hobgoblin II x5
Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5
Wasp EC-900 x4
Heavy Armor Maintenance Bot I x1

You should bring a some extra drones: different heavies/sentries/extra lights/mediums, some Scorch/Conflag, a set of different hardeners, an extra T2 medium repper, 3 cap rechargers and the Mobile depot so you can refit for up to 6/10 DED plexes with the fit I posted earlier in the thread, as well as being able to do exploration sites. I would also bringg some nanos/warpstabs/plates/shield extenders/neuts for a travel fit for travelling around more hostile areas of nullsec, with a proper travel fit you'll be nigh uncatchable except for the biggest and most well organized gatecamps.

This is going to be the best all-in-one explorer by a mile.

Have you tried this in any ghost sites yet? Wonder how it will hold up, I saw JonnyPew's video of running a random lowsec ghost site on SISI pre-rubicon and he lost his Stratios in a matter of seconds :D

No idea what kind of fitting he was using though.

Main trick is your rigs...thats what im really looking at lol

CCC II + 2 Auxiliary Nano Pump I

is what iam using..

Dual MAR + 2 Hardeners for 6/10
Dual MAR + Reactive Hardener for 5/10 + 2 DDA

worked for Angel 4/10 & 5/10 and Sansha 5/10 & 6/10 ...
aslong as you can speed tank some of the dmg anything is good.. just the dps is a bit low , also tracking for Drones could be better :/ but i see no chance to fit a Omni in a DMAR fit that 5th Sentry/HAD would be really nice for PVE.. but y.. nerf it because its op in PVP ..

The only other Downside is the CD on the Covops Cloak .. 30 seconds are too much :/

Dual MAR is terrible. Stop that. You wonder why your dps is low? Also the locking delay on the covops cloak should be 5-6 seconds, and the reactivation delay should be less than that. The ship has absolutely acceptable dps with 4 drones. You just need to fit it right.

I've got a fit in mind for a Stratios Explorer. Not sure how good it is mostly because I don't know cruiser fittings all that well... So constructive feed back is more than welcome -

Stratios - High Sec Explorer/Combat sites

High Slot
Sisters Core Probe Launcher
Heavy Pulse Laser II (Scorch M)
Heavy Pulse Laser II (Scorch M)
Heavy Pulse Laser II (Scorch M)
Heavy Pulse Laser II (Scorch M)

Mids
Data Analyzer II
Relic Analyzer II
Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
10MN Afterburner II

Low
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Rigs
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II

Drones
Adjust to taste. My fit currently shows -
5xHobgoblin II
5xHammerhead II
4x Garde I
5X Vespa EC-600

DPS with skills at all five and the Gardes deployed 638
23,400 EHP vs Guristas

And no...I don't think this would survive Ghost sites from what I'm coming to understand.

thoughts? Suggestions? Questions?

I've got a fit in mind for a Stratios Explorer. Not sure how good it is mostly because I don't know cruiser fittings all that well... So constructive feed back is more than welcome -

Stratios - High Sec Explorer/Combat sites

*Total Weaksauce Stuff*

The ratting domi fit... oh wait its a stratios... well it works on here to anyways.
I did it tons of times testin the hardest level 4s and sites

If you are not happy about it just fu
Also there are allot of empty spots but thats just a basic template
You can also PvP easily if you put 2 Nano's MWD Targeting scripts in mids and so on, with some neuts in mids for the frigates chasing for you.....

Has i said, its a template but no, using lasers is something you dont need to do and is not effective unless you are thinking about needing to be close...

[Stratios, New Setup 1]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Signal Amplifier II

Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I

Drone Link Augmentor II
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II


Garde II x4
Bouncer II x4

The ratting domi fit... oh wait its a stratios... well it works on here to anyways.
I did it tons of times testin the hardest level 4s and sites

If you are not happy about it just fu
Also there are allot of empty spots but thats just a basic template
You can also PvP easily if you put 2 Nano's MWD Targeting scripts in mids and so on, with some neuts in mids for the frigates chasing for you.....

Has i said, its a template but no, using lasers is something you dont need to do and is not effective unless you are thinking about needing to be close...

[Stratios, New Setup 1]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Signal Amplifier II

Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I

Drone Link Augmentor II
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II


Garde II x4
Bouncer II x4

pretty sure you'll get a better tank by getting a better mar than buying a second one and only having 2 hardeners. Naked RAH with no plate or additional resistance mods is also bad, RAH is best when stacked on top of hardeners.

Also, reactivation delay is 30 seconds, not locking delay, I misunderstood earlier. Yeah its a *****, gotta be careful about that.

Stratios should tank ghost sites easily, but you will need to refit in space with a depot. LSE + invulns or explosive hardener work, 1600 + 1 explosive hardener and a DC should also be MORE than adequate. Nullsec ghost site explosions are roughly 10,000 raw damage give or take a few thousand, and reportedly are full-on explosive damage type.

This is close to what I am using now. With such a large drone bay there is no reason not to carry around 5+ Warriors II for those quicker, smaller enemies. I also have a web and T2 blasters to deal with anyone close since they are inexpensive and the fitting for this ship is generous. This is great for my alt who can't pilot an Ishtar (has level 5 drone skills) and seems much better than the Vexor so far. Ishtar (or maybe Vindicator) is still my favorite ship though I still need to pick up a Marauder since the patch.

I was looking to use the bonuses of the ship in a ghost site, WH Ghost sites.. This will be a trailer queen , sitting in a hanger until the site is located and its one and only job is to hack the ghost site and survive when it fails. Is there any other ship that gives bonuses to virus strength?

Emergent Locust T3 is the best ship for any ghost site period forever the end and done. Doesn't matter if you're in a WH though i guess, you will have the luxury of time. Need more of those WH implants on the market so full sets are available and people will buy the alphas and betas.

The thing about doing the range + no tank thing is that the Navy Vexor does it better for cheaper too. You miss out on 1 Omni but you can use drone scope chips instead.

[Stratios, ranran]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I

Ogre II x4
Curator II x4
Garde II x4
Valkyrie II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Warrior II x5

Was playing around with NullSec exploration fits in Pyfa when I heard mention that there's a 30 seconds recloak delay when jumping through a gate? Entire purpose of Stratios defeated.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong - is it a 30 seconds delay after jumping through a gate, or is it a 30 second delay after jumping through a gate in which you were cloaked when you landed on the other side?

I have a lot of excellent fits for sentry drones but don't feel like sharing them. The secret is to use expensive modules and to make due with a 3 slot tank in either shield or armor.

I suppose i should also check out fits for heavy drones setups, which save you having to use omnilinks or drone scope ships or DLAs. Which probably leaves you room to fit lasers.

The Stratios item description states: Can fit covert ops cloaking device.
This is true.
Untrue is, you can not use it as such.

Maybe qualifies for a bug report.

Notes: Can fit a covert ops cloaks and cynosural field generators. Cloak reactivation delay reduced to 5 seconds.

Can fit covert ops cloaks and use covert jump portals.

Not a bug, that is actually a listed bonus on most of the covert ships look at a Cheeta



Stratios


See the difference? Its by design, it has to be.

Can not confirm 30 seconds.

I tested it in high and low sector with Covert Ops Cloak (about 10 sec) and 'Smokescreen' Covert Ops Cloaking Device (about 9 sec).

You come through the gate and you are still cloaked. Align to next warp point/ gate , get in warp and then count to 9 (or 10 depending on cloak) and you will be able to cloak again. This means you come out from the gate cloak and you have maybe still 6-8 seconds until you can cloak again.

Too long comparing to a normal covert ops or blockade runner. As mentioned - useless in WH, low or 0.0

The Stratios item description states: Can fit covert ops cloaking device.
This is true.
Untrue is, you can not use it as such.

Maybe qualifies for a bug report.

Amazing, I am a relative noob to EVE having only played around 5-6 months however have been having no problems at all with the Stratios in both low sec and null. I have been through several gate camps including a truly scary one with 20+ multiple T3's including a cerberus and several loki's.

The simple trick is about 1-2AU from the destination gate, uncloak in the warp. Jump gate. Warp/Recloak.. no delay.

IMHO, this ship is superb for what I use it for. I go on 30j trips through low/null doing exploration. Make several safes and use the mobile depot to refit to what I need to do data/relic sites and refit again for combat sites. I can then refit for travel and onwards again. The cargo bay size is slightly under what I would like but I am just selective over the loot I keep.

The downside of course to this is the cost of the ship + carrying around the modules for refits (it certainly ain't cheap for a noob like me!). Naturally I know the risks and no tears will be shed when I lose it (which I will sooner or later), it's just too much fun travelling around in to allow the risk to stand in the way.

Anyway back on point...

The ship is perfectly fine as it is. It should not be as good as a pure covops ship at using it's cloak, if it was it could only be described as overpowered given the low skill requirements.

For those who are showing fits without cloaks.

Ishtar does it better. Both in PvP and PvE.

It also does it at a much better price.

Cloak or you are wasting the Stratios.

Fixed it for you.

You are right.

What makes the Stratios still of no use as Covert Ops and will remain in Highsec

Here's an all-in-one exploration fit I was thinking of:

[Stratios, Exploration]

Medium Armor Repairer II
Centii C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
10MN Afterburner II
Relic Analyzer II
Data Analyzer II
Large Capacitor Battery II

Sisters Core Probe Launcher
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I


Ogre II x4
Garde II x4
Hobgoblin II x5
Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5
Wasp EC-900 x4
Heavy Armor Maintenance Bot I x1

You should bring a some extra drones: different heavies/sentries/extra lights/mediums, some Scorch/Conflag, a set of different hardeners, an extra T2 medium repper, 3 cap rechargers and the Mobile depot so you can refit for up to 6/10 DED plexes with the fit I posted earlier in the thread, as well as being able to do exploration sites. I would also bringg some nanos/warpstabs/plates/shield extenders/neuts for a travel fit for travelling around more hostile areas of nullsec, with a proper travel fit you'll be nigh uncatchable except for the biggest and most well organized gatecamps.

This is going to be the best all-in-one explorer by a mile.

Um....what am I missing, because this fit doesn't come within a hundred miles of fitting CPU-wise. CPU is maxed out before you fit half these mods.

So...what am I missing?

For exploring this is what I was going for

Stratios

High -
- Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe
- 'Smokescreen' Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
- 200mm Autocannon II, Barrage M, Hail M, Republic Fleet EMP M, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
- 200mm Autocannon II, Barrage M, Hail M, Republic Fleet EMP M, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
- 200mm Autocannon II, Barrage M, Hail M, Republic Fleet EMP M, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M

Medium -
- Relic Analyzer II
- Data Analyzer II
- Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
- Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
- 10mn afterburner II

Low -
- Centum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer
- 800mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
- Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
- Drone Damage Amplifier II
- Damage Control II

Rig -
- Medium Anti-Thermic Pump II
- Medium Nanobot Accelerator I
- Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II

Drone bay -
- Bouncer II x5
- Garde II x5
- Valkyrie II x5
- Warrior II x5
- Vespa EC-600 x5
- Hornet EC-300 x5

Cargo -
- Nanite Repair Paste x1,200
- Barrage M x6,800
- Hail M x6,800
- Republic Fleet EMP M x6,800
- Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M x6,800
- Navy Cap Booster 400 x12
- Warrior II x10
- Hornet EC-300 x10
- GÇÿYurtGÇÖ Mobile Depot
- Mobile Tractor Units "If possible"


This will be used to do all different scannable sites in New Eden, for exploring the amazing sights to see all over New Eden, and for staying out in 0.0 for long periods of time.

This is the fit i want to try out in some plexes, usually up to 6/10

Stratios plex
Damage Control II
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Centum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Drone Damage Amplifier II

i can see this ship be a succesful high sec explorer but in highsec the payout is not high enough to justify such an expensive ship. at least thats what i have heard.

Well, you've heard wrong. 300m is not very expensive for highsec explorers, especially considering its the only probe-strength bonused cruiser hull that can run a 4/10.

Well, you've heard wrong. 300m is not very expensive for highsec explorers, especially considering its the only probe-strength bonused cruiser hull that can run a 4/10.