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NPDefender	Posted - 2006.02.13 16:20:00 - [1] The Amamake System is a major bottleneck created by CCP and made into a .4 that makes it a Gate Campers dream every Monday. It makes it unfair for the rest of the players because of the failure of the autopilot systems. Its lack of ability to set a kill limit instead of any pod kills, which makes it unable to use that feature. "Avoid systems where pod killing has recently occurred" need to has a limit bar, because to many systems have pod kills now.
Leto Nyx	Posted - 2006.02.13 16:23:00 - [2] Why on Mondays? ----- Who do these gods think they are, with their 'holier than thou' attitude?
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.02.13 16:24:00 - [3] Ever thought of going around? -- Proud member of the [23]. The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video. <3 Tachikomas -Eldo But I'm the cutest of them all, and I'm not even a blue robot - Wrangler I have seen you. You cannot deny it anymore - Vanamonde You used to be one of the twenty three, now you are a part of me - Cortes Immy > You All - Imaran Tachikomas > All ~kieron POKEMON -eris Jacques was 'ere Capsicum still is \| Jorauk was, but got hungry and left
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.02.13 16:24:00 - [4] Dont fly pass Amamake? ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT! RAWRRRRRRR!!1 - Imaran Wrangler, stealing Eris pink since a few days ago. We always knew you had a thing for pink - Vanamonde
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.02.13 16:26:00 - [5] Why just Mondays? And I think we need to move the bottlenecks back deeper into 0.0 before we mess with empire bottlenecks, which really aren't nearly as bad. -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! Stop whining about my signature - Wrangler \o/ ~kieron [\"] -Capsicum <3 -eris you wanted colours now you have them :) -eris..again Donuts and cAKe anyone? Jacques'
Alexis DeTocqueville	Posted - 2006.02.13 16:27:00 - [6] Edited by: Alexis DeTocqueville on 13/02/2006 16:32:24 Go around. EDIT: It's ironic that Shikari and I hate each other, we think so alike.
Andros vonBek	Posted - 2006.02.13 16:27:00 - [7] Tried looking at that little slider bar underneath? maybe altering that will set a different course for the AP fo follow... or fly manually... generally pay attention as you travel...
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.02.13 16:30:00 - [8] set autopilot to "0.5 to 1.0" space and you'll never enter Amamake again. if you want to take the short-cut through low-sec, expect to get ganked. ESPECIALLY in Amamake Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Sarmaul 4tw.
NPDefender	Posted - 2006.02.13 16:42:00 - [9] Edited by: NPDefender on 13/02/2006 16:42:48 The problem is the "Avoid systems where pod killing has recently occurredö feature under autopilot does not work with all the pod kills in Safe space. They need to fix that feature, somehow, so it can be used. To avoid Gate Campers.
Cvuos	Posted - 2006.02.13 16:47:00 - [10] Nothing needs fixing. Take the extra jumps through high sec or take a risky short cut through low sec. It's working exactly as intended. You can change the route as you please by adding waypoints if the autopilot doesn't plot properly. Or perhaps it should have a "prefer short, but avoid any risk and auto-activate my afterburner while I'm mining on my other account" option?
NPDefender	Posted - 2006.02.13 16:53:00 - [11] Originally by: Cvuos Nothing needs fixing. option? The feature can not be used in it current form. Your can't even use in in >.5 trips. There are just to many pod kills in empire space to use it. So it is broken!!
Brisi	Posted - 2006.02.13 16:56:00 - [12] Originally by: NPDefender Edited by: NPDefender on 13/02/2006 16:42:48 The problem is the "Avoid systems where pod killing has recently occurredö feature under autopilot does not work with all the pod kills in Safe space. They need to fix that feature, somehow, so it can be used. To avoid Gate Campers. Wrong, that's not what's 'broken'. Have you any idea how many ships gets killed in high-sec systems everyday? A lot than in low-sec. Introducing that feature would simply make the autopilot take even longer trips, with a hell of a lot more jumps than of ot wasn't turned on, for no good reason. Please, for God's sake, just look at your map and press the "Show ship destroyed in the last hour" button, if the number is above 5-6, you might not want to go in there. There, it wasn't so hard now was it?
Orvus Prime	Posted - 2006.02.13 17:00:00 - [13] Another Feature thats broken is the buddylist, people in buddylist shows there offline when they r online they need to fix that.
NPDefender	Posted - 2006.02.13 17:06:00 - [14] Originally by: Brisi Wrong, that's not what's 'broken'. Have you any idea how many ships gets killed in high-sec systems everyday? A lot than in low-sec. Introducing that feature would simply make the autopilot take even longer trips, with a hell of a lot more jumps than of ot wasn't turned on, for no good reason. I am trying to avoid the long trips, because of all the killed in high-sec systems. If they would have a "Pod kill limit" on the feature, a bar 1-20 for example, that would allow the feature to be used. That way the path would only change if the pod kills got over the limit. Player don't sit and watch the pod kill map, and if you are killed if the first 5 mins of a campers day, you never see it on the pod kill map.
kumbayah	Posted - 2006.02.13 17:09:00 - [15] Edited by: kumbayah on 13/02/2006 17:12:27 Originally by: Orvus Prime Another Feature thats broken is the buddylist, people in buddylist shows there offline when they r online they need to fix that. Read the devblog before you complain maybe?
Cvuos	Posted - 2006.02.13 17:11:00 - [16] Originally by: NPDefender The feature can not be used in it current form. Your can't even use in in >.5 trips. There are just to many pod kills in empire space to use it. So it is broken!! So use your head instead! Didn't know that Amamake was a big campfest and got ganked? Well know you know and you can avoid it. Plot your own route using waypoints. When I haul expensive stuff I set "prefer safer". That usually adds 10 jumps to get around Amamake and that's what I have to accept for the lower risk. Inspect your route before starting, use the excellent Ombey maps, use your own head. Haulers don't need win-buttons any more than PvPers do.
Grimpak	Posted - 2006.02.13 17:19:00 - [17] ...somebody needs to use their head more? ---------------- Originally by: Abdalion Shoot him ingame if you don't like this person. If you do like him, go mine veldspar with him.
Liu Kaskakka	Posted - 2006.02.13 17:19:00 - [18] Oh noes, I dun wanna make an effort to manually plot my course around a system, CCPFIXPLZKTHX I wanna go afk when I haul my cows! King Liu is RIGHT!!
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.02.13 17:20:00 - [19] Originally by: Liu Kaskakka Oh noes, I dun wanna make an effort to manually plot my course around a system, CCPFIXPLZKTHX I wanna go afk when I haul my cows! Can't argue with King Liu, he's right. -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! Stop whining about my signature - Wrangler \o/ ~kieron [\"] -Capsicum <3 -eris you wanted colours now you have them :) -eris..again Donuts and cAKe anyone? Jacques'
Nicky Leeson	Posted - 2006.02.13 17:41:00 - [20] Given its location and the number of agents and stations in Amamake, if it wasn't a 0.4 it would be as much of a lag trap as Jita. The 0.4 status of Amamake is probably a contributor to the scarcity of Republic Fleet Tempests and such like. This is not a bad thing, and it is good that pirates ahve such a resource-rich location in which to play. The solution to the pirates is not avoidance, its elimination. Get a force and take them out. Autopilot - It doesn't need 'fixing'. Avoiding podkill routes is impossible thats all. Atm there is no need for this feature as it is pointless. he autopilot feature could maybe benefit from a feature such as 'avoid xxx system' though, to avoid situations like on Sundays atm where major hubs become venus flytraps and everyone and theor mother gets stuck.
Gabby05	Posted - 2006.02.13 17:52:00 - [21] I think the OPs problem with the bottleneck in amamake is the time it takes to go around it. Its not that theres multiple low sec systems you can go through its just several low sec systems in a nice line one after the other. As a temporary solution to your problem id make a note of all the stuff you need to move and set auto-pilot to safe zones so you can afk travel to your destination whilst you sod off to work or something. No one will agree with you here cos most are pirates anyways.
Nicky Leeson	Posted - 2006.02.13 17:55:00 - [22] Why not go and move somewhere else if its that much of a problem? Like a different region.
Gabby05	Posted - 2006.02.13 18:07:00 - [23] Originally by: Nicky Leeson Why not go and move somewhere else if its that much of a problem? Like a different region. Well im baffled is this an alt of a miner that has an account with a pirate char or a shy pirate??
Nicky Leeson	Posted - 2006.02.13 18:24:00 - [24] No i am a third account that can't be bothered to log out and log back in with my main since you ask. And no, I have no interest in piracy at all. I think it is rather a pointless waste of tiome and effort that could be spent escrow camping.
Promon Delnai	Posted - 2006.02.13 18:37:00 - [25] Having an autopilot is no excuse for being an idiot. If youre not clever enough to realize that youre going to be ganked in low sec and fix your routes accordingly, you deserve what you get.
Jenny Sparks	Posted - 2006.02.13 18:48:00 - [26] I am sick and tierd of this kind of whining, I live in Amamake and do lots of buisness in that system. I desided to do buisnes thair becus of the danger and in my opinion if thair is no danger thair is no fun, thair are manny differant ways to go around and the shorter roots should be risky, if not what is the point so stop biching and ether grow some balls or moove your trading elswere
Riku Suzuki	Posted - 2006.02.13 18:50:00 - [27] Originally by: NPDefender Originally by: Brisi Wrong, that's not what's 'broken'. Have you any idea how many ships gets killed in high-sec systems everyday? A lot than in low-sec. Introducing that feature would simply make the autopilot take even longer trips, with a hell of a lot more jumps than of ot wasn't turned on, for no good reason. I am trying to avoid the long trips, because of all the killed in high-sec systems. If they would have a "Pod kill limit" on the feature, a bar 1-20 for example, that would allow the feature to be used. That way the path would only change if the pod kills got over the limit. Player don't sit and watch the pod kill map, and if you are killed if the first 5 mins of a campers day, you never see it on the pod kill map. But unless you're at war, your chances of being killed in high sec are very small indeed. Just select the high sec route.
Szordin	Posted - 2006.02.13 18:59:00 - [28] Edited by: Szordin on 13/02/2006 19:00:10 Edited by: Szordin on 13/02/2006 18:59:05 crazy how many people complain about anamake yet the 1000 or so times I have flown thru it in the last year I have never once had any problems with gate campers killing me sure they are there, but they can be avoided if you are smart. One example, why not just make a instas like everyone else. Outside of that if you don't want to run into gate camps, and get killed stay out of .4 and below be alot less of them for you to worry about. However, don't think >=.5 is safe from them either.
Vera Nosfyu	Posted - 2006.02.13 19:42:00 - [29] I'm not entirely sure whether NPDefender is asking to make the autopilot avoid gatecamps or if he's asking CCP to remove bottlenecks. So I'll address both points in turn. Why should the autopilot be designed to avoid gatecamps? It seems to me that learning how to avoid gatecamps is part of learning to play the game. If we remove skill from the game all that's left is who has the most ISK/SP, it's important to preserve those elements which require you to have a brain. As for the bottlenecks... Bottlenecks are a fact of life and an important strategic element. Instead of asking for CCP to get rid of them why don't you go yell at God to nerf Gibraltar?
Alexis DeTocqueville	Posted - 2006.02.13 20:34:00 - [30] Edited by: Alexis DeTocqueville on 13/02/2006 20:34:01 Originally by: Vera Nosfyu As for the bottlenecks... Bottlenecks are a fact of life and an important strategic element. Instead of asking for CCP to get rid of them why don't you go yell at God to nerf Gibraltar? "Ascendant Frontier expects that every man will do his duty". Sorry, I immediately thought of Trafalgar in space when I read that post.

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