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Kialopreyst
Hole Exploitation Inc. Goonswarm Federation
42
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Posted - 2013.11.13 13:06:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Xavier Higdon wrote:Johnny Marzetti wrote:Erotica 1, I honestly thought you were just up to wacky hijinks and I was wondering why goons were coming down on you so much until I finally got around to looking at your thread on the goonfleet dot com top secret forums no spies allowed and saw those pictures and now I feel really creeped out.
My whole problem with Somer Blink was the way they used internet spaceships and compulsions to manipulate people's weaknesses in ways that could damage their real lives and now I have that exact same problem with you. This is a computer game on the internet and like all things on the internet it attracts some mentally shaky people and that needs to be taken into account.
I don't want to say mean things to you, though, I just want to ask you politely to reflect on your behavior and consider the larger effects of your actions. Are you saying he solicited images of his scam victims and has now posted them onto your forums? Well somebody from goonswarm did eve mail some of those pictures to people on this forum.
beancounter/Erotica 1 has been dealt with. Hopefully WIdot will do the right thing and purge this guy.
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Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1210
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Posted - 2013.11.13 13:12:00 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:Johnny Marzetti wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Xavier Higdon wrote:Johnny Marzetti wrote:Erotica 1, I honestly thought you were just up to wacky hijinks and I was wondering why goons were coming down on you so much until I finally got around to looking at your thread on the goonfleet dot com top secret forums no spies allowed and saw those pictures and now I feel really creeped out.
My whole problem with Somer Blink was the way they used internet spaceships and compulsions to manipulate people's weaknesses in ways that could damage their real lives and now I have that exact same problem with you. This is a computer game on the internet and like all things on the internet it attracts some mentally shaky people and that needs to be taken into account.
I don't want to say mean things to you, though, I just want to ask you politely to reflect on your behavior and consider the larger effects of your actions. Are you saying he solicited images of his scam victims and has now posted them onto your forums? Well somebody from goonswarm did eve mail some of those pictures to people on this forum. That person should also revisit his or her choices, then, just as I requested of Erotica 1. Or is this some kind of really dumb tu quoque attempt? Because if it is, it is a particularly dumb one, even for you. I think he may be pointing out the blatant fake concern/outrage for political mileage.
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Prince Kobol
1140
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Posted - 2013.11.13 13:25:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti wrote:
Then I would like to point out that you are both idiots.
I was simply asking a question which you answered fine in the first part of your post, but then you had to ruin it by trying to be clever and seeing something which wasn't there.
Not only that but you also throw in an insult as well.
Is that how you are in RL.. always seeing things which are there and insulting people, are you so incapable of just having a jovial discussion on a forum without lowering yourself to insults?
If so may I kindly suggest you seek some professional help as that kind of attitude is liable to leave you a very lonely person. |
Xavier Higdon
Wolfbane Hauler Inc
91
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Posted - 2013.11.13 13:30:00 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:Johnny Marzetti wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Xavier Higdon wrote:Johnny Marzetti wrote:Erotica 1, I honestly thought you were just up to wacky hijinks and I was wondering why goons were coming down on you so much until I finally got around to looking at your thread on the goonfleet dot com top secret forums no spies allowed and saw those pictures and now I feel really creeped out.
My whole problem with Somer Blink was the way they used internet spaceships and compulsions to manipulate people's weaknesses in ways that could damage their real lives and now I have that exact same problem with you. This is a computer game on the internet and like all things on the internet it attracts some mentally shaky people and that needs to be taken into account.
I don't want to say mean things to you, though, I just want to ask you politely to reflect on your behavior and consider the larger effects of your actions. Are you saying he solicited images of his scam victims and has now posted them onto your forums? Well somebody from goonswarm did eve mail some of those pictures to people on this forum. That person should also revisit his or her choices, then, just as I requested of Erotica 1. Or is this some kind of really dumb tu quoque attempt? Because if it is, it is a particularly dumb one, even for you. I think he may be pointing out the blatant fake concern/outrage for political mileage.
I doubt his outrage is any less real than mine. For an individual so obviously incapable of separating the game from real life as Erotica 1 is, as evidenced by collecting and then publishing pictures as he did, to be even considered for the CSM is evidence that there are major issues in this game. Those issues, however, are not of the game but rather of certain individuals that play the game. It's morally indefensible to do as he did, as well as it being a violation of the EULA/TOS. Will he demand a ban for himself in order to maintain the integrity of the sandbox? A proud member of Wolfbane Hauler Inc. We are currently recruiting pilots of all skill levels. We need both industrial combat specialists. For more information see our ad:-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3764273&#post3764273 |
Prince Kobol
1140
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Posted - 2013.11.13 13:32:00 -
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I am full of outrage.. can't you see me being outraged.
grrr I am outraged grrr
erm.. grrr really outraged
grrrrrr grrrrrr
erm
grrr? |
Prince Kobol
1140
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Posted - 2013.11.13 13:35:00 -
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Either way its a shame Erotica 1 is not running, I will happily admit that over the last week or so the Erotica 1 threads have been fun, a light relief from the usual Eve is dying threads , grrr goon threads, nerf (insert x) threads etc..
Oh well, hopefully someone else will come along and provide so other light relief |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1210
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Posted - 2013.11.13 13:45:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Johnny Marzetti wrote:
Then I would like to point out that you are both idiots.
I was simply asking a question which you answered fine in the first part of your post, but then you had to ruin it by trying to be clever and seeing something which wasn't there. Not only that but you also throw in an insult as well. Is that how you are in RL.. always seeing things which are there and insulting people, are you so incapable of just having a jovial discussion on a forum without lowering yourself to insults? If so may I kindly suggest you seek some professional help as that kind of attitude is liable to leave you a very lonely person.
Nope, I'm actually a really nice person in real life and get along well with lots of different people but thank you for your concern.
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Mythrandier
Spacelane Salvage
191
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Posted - 2013.11.13 13:51:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Johnny Marzetti wrote:
Then I would like to point out that you are both idiots.
I was simply asking a question which you answered fine in the first part of your post, but then you had to ruin it by trying to be clever and seeing something which wasn't there. Not only that but you also throw in an insult as well. Is that how you are in RL.. always seeing things which are there and insulting people, are you so incapable of just having a jovial discussion on a forum without lowering yourself to insults? If so may I kindly suggest you seek some professional help as that kind of attitude is liable to leave you a very lonely person. Nope, I'm actually a really nice person in real life and get along well with lots of different people but thank you for your concern.
Whoa there Dobbin.
You are a Goon... How can you be a nice person IRL?? Don't you read these forums?! ALL Goons are basement dwelling psychos according to the AMAZING intellects that thrive on EvE-O.
"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." --á D. Adams. |
Anomaly One
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
24
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Posted - 2013.11.13 13:58:00 -
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I'm looking at my Grrr Goons manifesto and it says nothing about nice people
section 4.1 throwing kittens .... ...
section 7.0
conquer the world
section 7894.3
... ... accepting people who are not psychos..
ah there found it. |
Seven Koskanaiken
Sons Of Saints Circle-Of-Two
472
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Posted - 2013.11.13 14:04:00 -
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I cannot believe Erotica is recreating Noel's House Party in her chat room. I am outraged. |
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Prince Kobol
1140
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Posted - 2013.11.13 14:06:00 -
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Mythrandier wrote:Johnny Marzetti wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Johnny Marzetti wrote:
Then I would like to point out that you are both idiots.
I was simply asking a question which you answered fine in the first part of your post, but then you had to ruin it by trying to be clever and seeing something which wasn't there. Not only that but you also throw in an insult as well. Is that how you are in RL.. always seeing things which are there and insulting people, are you so incapable of just having a jovial discussion on a forum without lowering yourself to insults? If so may I kindly suggest you seek some professional help as that kind of attitude is liable to leave you a very lonely person. Nope, I'm actually a really nice person in real life and get along well with lots of different people but thank you for your concern. Whoa there Dobbin. You are a Goon... How can you be a nice person IRL?? Don't you read these forums?! ALL Goons are basement dwelling psychos according to the AMAZING intellects that thrive on EvE-O.
Well I wouldn't go that far but who am I to argue.
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Prince Kobol
1141
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Posted - 2013.11.13 14:07:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Johnny Marzetti wrote:
Then I would like to point out that you are both idiots.
I was simply asking a question which you answered fine in the first part of your post, but then you had to ruin it by trying to be clever and seeing something which wasn't there. Not only that but you also throw in an insult as well. Is that how you are in RL.. always seeing things which are there and insulting people, are you so incapable of just having a jovial discussion on a forum without lowering yourself to insults? If so may I kindly suggest you seek some professional help as that kind of attitude is liable to leave you a very lonely person. Nope, I'm actually a really nice person in real life and get along well with lots of different people but thank you for your concern.
That is good news and your welcome |
Prince Kobol
1141
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Posted - 2013.11.13 14:09:00 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:I cannot believe Erotica is recreating Noel's House Party in her chat room. How creepy. I am outraged to my core.
IF that was true I would truely be outraged...
Also I had chips with mine |
LiKuei
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.11.13 14:12:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:Xen Solarus wrote:No vote from me. Fail to see what a scammer can do to support anyone, other than themselves. I understand some will feel this way. I hope after you listen to the full recording and participate in other events, I can change your mind. If not, I understand why. However, I'd like you to open your mind to the possibility of what I propose. Oh, and obviously... X
Why put another person, who has a cult like following in the CSM position, to FURTHER distance the player base and CCP away from balance. If there was a Scammer Chair / Null-sec Chair / Low-sec Chair / ect ... well then maybe. |
Prince Kobol
1141
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Posted - 2013.11.13 14:26:00 -
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LiKuei wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Xen Solarus wrote:No vote from me. Fail to see what a scammer can do to support anyone, other than themselves. I understand some will feel this way. I hope after you listen to the full recording and participate in other events, I can change your mind. If not, I understand why. However, I'd like you to open your mind to the possibility of what I propose. Oh, and obviously... X Why put another person, who has a cult like following in the CSM position, to FURTHER distance the player base and CCP away from balance. If there was a Scammer Chair / Null-sec Chair / Low-sec Chair / ect ... well then maybe, since you are good at getting people to mess up their SP progression in the "Bonus Room".
Somebody else who cant differentiation between a character in a computer game and the person behind the keyboard.
I am not talking about Erotica 1 specifically here.
When it came to CSM 6 I voted for the TheMittani, not because of the Character he plays, but because as a person who has and is leading the largest alliance / coalition in Eve he knew full well what the major problems were and at the time the CSM needed somebody who was not scared to say what was wrong and tell CCP when they were being dumb.
You have to separate the character from the person.
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LiKuei
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.11.13 14:33:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:LiKuei wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Xen Solarus wrote:No vote from me. Fail to see what a scammer can do to support anyone, other than themselves. I understand some will feel this way. I hope after you listen to the full recording and participate in other events, I can change your mind. If not, I understand why. However, I'd like you to open your mind to the possibility of what I propose. Oh, and obviously... X Why put another person, who has a cult like following in the CSM position, to FURTHER distance the player base and CCP away from balance. If there was a Scammer Chair / Null-sec Chair / Low-sec Chair / ect ... well then maybe, since you are good at getting people to mess up their SP progression in the "Bonus Room". Somebody else who cant differentiation between a character in a computer game and the person behind the keyboard. I am not talking about Erotica 1 specifically here. When it came to CSM 6 I voted for the TheMittani, not because of the Character he plays, but because as a person who has and is leading the largest alliance / coalition in Eve he knew full well what the major problems were and at the time the CSM needed somebody who was not scared to say what was wrong and tell CCP when they were being dumb. You have to separate the character from the person.
And now we see that we cannot remove the player from the character. Please tell me you don't see that with all the drama surrounding him and the Goons. |
Prince Kobol
1141
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Posted - 2013.11.13 14:55:00 -
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LiKuei wrote:
And now we see that we cannot remove the player from the character. Please tell me you don't see that with all the RL drama surrounding him and the Goons.
Okay you might need to explain this to me as I am a little lost here.
First off I don't understand what you mean by we cannot remove the player from the character. Why can't we?
In game character - Erotica 1 Real Life Player - Some dude/chick behind a keyboard.
See, its easy.
Also I see no RL drama between Erotica 1 and the Goons or I have missed something?
Other than a few goons out of thousands who were at first were supporting Erotica 1 on the Eve O forums (not sure how this is related to RL) and now those few are not, so what RL drama are we talking about here?
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Mhax Arthie
172
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Posted - 2013.11.13 15:00:00 -
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An old guristas warrior said once in a random anomaly that what happens in the room, stays in the room. My respect towards the goons just raised. |
LiKuei
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.11.13 15:26:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:LiKuei wrote:
And now we see that we cannot remove the player from the character. Please tell me you don't see that with all the RL drama surrounding him and the Goons.
Okay you might need to explain this to me as I am a little lost here. First off I don't understand what you mean by we cannot remove the player from the character. Why can't we? In game character - Erotica 1 Real Life Player - Some dude/chick behind a keyboard. See, its easy. Also I see no RL drama between Erotica 1 and the Goons or I have missed something? Other than a few goons out of thousands who were at first were supporting Erotica 1 on the Eve O forums (not sure how this is related to RL) and now those few are not, so what RL drama are we talking about here?
Who said anything about you and the Goons? Were you banned for questionable comments? Are there rumors about your source of income? Want me to continue? These things don't have to be true mind you, but it s perception.
You have to remember, most sheep live by the Cult of Personality Ruleset. And as such, most people should play up to their public strengths, yours being Scammer. There is no shame in that game play and I am amazed daily that people will do the things they do in-game to get acceptance. But as I have already said, if there was a chair that represents that facet of the game, you would be a top contender for the "Scammers Chair". That's not a personal attack, it is your in-game strength, which most people are going to know you as. You cant deny this, you just posted about the Code in another forum right before I returned to this one.
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Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1101
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Posted - 2013.11.13 15:37:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Somebody else who cant differentiation between a character in a computer game and the person behind the keyboard. oh the irony in this statement... the word "person" means nothing else but mask/character/role/... |
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Prince Kobol
1142
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Posted - 2013.11.13 15:57:00 -
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LiKuei wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:LiKuei wrote:
And now we see that we cannot remove the player from the character. Please tell me you don't see that with all the RL drama surrounding him and the Goons.
Okay you might need to explain this to me as I am a little lost here. First off I don't understand what you mean by we cannot remove the player from the character. Why can't we? In game character - Erotica 1 Real Life Player - Some dude/chick behind a keyboard. See, its easy. Also I see no RL drama between Erotica 1 and the Goons or I have missed something? Other than a few goons out of thousands who were at first were supporting Erotica 1 on the Eve O forums (not sure how this is related to RL) and now those few are not, so what RL drama are we talking about here? Who said anything about you and the Goons? Were you banned for questionable comments? Are there rumors about your source of income? Want me to continue? These things don't have to be true mind you, but it s perception. You have to remember, most sheep live by the Cult of Personality Ruleset. And as such, most people should play up to their public strengths, yours being Scammer. There is no shame in that game play and I am amazed daily that people will do the things they do in-game to get acceptance. But as I have already said, if there was a chair that represents that facet of the game, you would be a top contender for the "Scammers Chair". That's not a personal attack, it is your in-game strength, which most people are going to know you as. You cant deny this, you just posted about the Code in another forum right before I returned to this one.
okay.. now you have really lost me.
You do realise that me and Erotica 1 are not the same person?
I am going to go with English is not your first language as that is the only sane reason I can think off that is why your post makes no sense at all. |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2194
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Posted - 2013.11.13 16:01:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:LiKuei wrote:
And now we see that we cannot remove the player from the character. Please tell me you don't see that with all the RL drama surrounding him and the Goons.
Okay you might need to explain this to me as I am a little lost here. First off I don't understand what you mean by we cannot remove the player from the character. Why can't we? In game character - Erotica 1 Real Life Player - Some dude/chick behind a keyboard. See, its easy. Also I see no RL drama between Erotica 1 and the Goons or I have missed something? Other than a few goons out of thousands who were at first were supporting Erotica 1 on the Eve O forums (not sure how this is related to RL) and now those few are not, so what RL drama are we talking about here?
Erotica 1 is a member of a Goonswarm Federation membercorp - Wildly Inappropriate specifically, which is a stunningly apt corp name for him. He posted about his antics on our forums, plainly expecting us to think they were way more cooler than they actually are. Instead, he was mocked, disparaged, and set read-only (this is a major punishment in a posting culture you see). That's where I pulled the bit about his RL picture collection from, and why I was getting up in his face about it here in public. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
LiKuei
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.11.13 16:13:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:LiKuei wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:LiKuei wrote:
And now we see that we cannot remove the player from the character. Please tell me you don't see that with all the RL drama surrounding him and the Goons.
Okay you might need to explain this to me as I am a little lost here. First off I don't understand what you mean by we cannot remove the player from the character. Why can't we? In game character - Erotica 1 Real Life Player - Some dude/chick behind a keyboard. See, its easy. Also I see no RL drama between Erotica 1 and the Goons or I have missed something? Other than a few goons out of thousands who were at first were supporting Erotica 1 on the Eve O forums (not sure how this is related to RL) and now those few are not, so what RL drama are we talking about here? Who said anything about you and the Goons? Were you banned for questionable comments? Are there rumors about your source of income? Want me to continue? These things don't have to be true mind you, but it s perception. You have to remember, most sheep live by the Cult of Personality Ruleset. And as such, most people should play up to their public strengths, yours being Scammer. There is no shame in that game play and I am amazed daily that people will do the things they do in-game to get acceptance. But as I have already said, if there was a chair that represents that facet of the game, you would be a top contender for the "Scammers Chair". That's not a personal attack, it is your in-game strength, which most people are going to know you as. You cant deny this, you just posted about the Code in another forum right before I returned to this one. okay.. now you have really lost me. You do realise that me and Erotica 1 are not the same person.
Missed who I was directing the comments to, I did not realize I was answering you Prince Kobol. But what I am saying still does hold water if I were having this conversation with Erotica 1.
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KnowUsByTheDead
Volition.
710
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Posted - 2013.11.13 16:14:00 -
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ISD, close the thread. Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-áVote For Emergent Gameplay and the Sandbox. Vote Erotica 1 For CSM!!!! -á-á |
Prince Kobol
1142
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Posted - 2013.11.13 16:16:00 -
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mynnna wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:LiKuei wrote:
And now we see that we cannot remove the player from the character. Please tell me you don't see that with all the RL drama surrounding him and the Goons.
Okay you might need to explain this to me as I am a little lost here. First off I don't understand what you mean by we cannot remove the player from the character. Why can't we? In game character - Erotica 1 Real Life Player - Some dude/chick behind a keyboard. See, its easy. Also I see no RL drama between Erotica 1 and the Goons or I have missed something? Other than a few goons out of thousands who were at first were supporting Erotica 1 on the Eve O forums (not sure how this is related to RL) and now those few are not, so what RL drama are we talking about here? Erotica 1 is a member of a Goonswarm Federation membercorp - Wildly Inappropriate, specifically, which is a stunningly apt corp name for him. He posted about his antics on our forums, plainly expecting us to think they were way more cooler than they actually are. Instead, he was mocked, disparaged, and set read-only (this is a major punishment in a posting culture you see). That's where I pulled the bit about his RL picture collection from, and why I was getting up in his face about it here in public.
arh, thanks makes a lot more sense, many thanks for the clarification
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Prince Kobol
1142
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Posted - 2013.11.13 16:17:00 -
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KnowUsByTheDead wrote:ISD, close the thread.
why?
Its just a few people having a friendly discussion, isn't that what forums are for? |
Prince Kobol
1142
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Posted - 2013.11.13 16:26:00 -
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LiKuei wrote:
Missed who I was directing the comments to, I did not realize I was answering you Prince Kobol. But what I am saying still does hold water if I were having this conversation with Erotica 1.
gotcha, however I would still disagree with you.
A persons play style has no relevance on whether they would make a good CSM.
When looking at candidates I do not vote for those who may have a similar play style to my own, but rather I will look at those who are able to have a balanced well reasoned discussion and will argue their point of view but wont necessary stick to it blindly.
Also keeping to their opinion even if it is unpopular like Malc often does is also important (to me anyway)
Take Mynnna for example.
I am damn sure we have totally different play styles, thoughts and idea's about Eve however I still used 1 of my votes because Mynnna is excellent at communicating and is able to have a full and frank discussion without any drama.
As I have said before, I do not believe that the CSM has any relevance or power over the direction that CCP take, but what they can do is tell CCP whether what they are doing is good or bad and maybe from time to time be able to give them a tiny nudge in the right direction.
So communication to me is one of the most important aspects for being a CSM member.
Now whether Erotica 1 would meet my own requirements, I have no idea as he/she has dropped out the running. It certainly would of been interesting to see how far she/he got and what kind of responses he gave when the process began. |
KnowUsByTheDead
Volition.
710
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Posted - 2013.11.13 16:31:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:KnowUsByTheDead wrote:ISD, close the thread. why? Its just a few people having a friendly discussion, isn't that what forums are for?
Because I asked. Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-áVote For Emergent Gameplay and the Sandbox. Vote Erotica 1 For CSM!!!! -á-á |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1103
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Posted - 2013.11.13 16:34:00 -
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voting for Erotica1 would be like voting for politicians that are thieves and liars it would never happ ... oh s**t nvm This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |
LiKuei
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.11.13 16:42:00 -
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I agree with communication being key but I am also a firm believer that people talk a good game and tend to surprise people when they show their true colors. And playstyle is the very thing (in Eve) that actually gets you elected ... i.e. people wanting to have additional support to a playstyle of their choosing and emulating the people who have any semblance of power.
How is that relevant? If I were pursuing a scammer lifestyle, I would gravitate to people who share my playstyle. I would also support anyone who has the ear of the people who could buff/nerf my chosen playstyle. While you are I may come at it from a different approach, the Cult of Personality will not, they would blindly support without question, because it supports them.
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