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Laserak
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.12 17:22:00 -
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I dont know who erotica 1 is and I would never support anyone with such a silly name.
Why are people talking about CSM already? |
Jessica Braun
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2013.11.12 17:22:00 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:wtf is a bonus room
It is the measure of the level of stupidity in this game. The greater the participation, the greater the ignorance in the community.
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Jessica Braun
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2013.11.12 17:25:00 -
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Galadriel Vasquez wrote:Interesting announcement. Who is the real Erotica1??
1) A low down dirty scammer who lures pilots into a web of ISK doubling and makes profit off of the hapless fools in Jita.
2) A philanthropist that is a genuine ISK doubler and offers a legitimate service...
3) An opportunist that has cleverly maneuvered himself to being the prime contact for ISK rinsing.
4) A political animal that has aspirations of being the next big thing and using the CSM to achieve fame/notoriety?
5) A genuine guy who is trying to make EVE online a better place and is enjoying his role play tremendously too!
6) A James315 alt.........
Whatever the definition of the real Erotica1 I enjoy the countless threads and I do like to watch in Jita the outbreaks of verbose jousting.
Good luck to you .
I will watch the developing plot with interest - the Meta is too strong to resist!
7. A pathetic shut-in who, without EVE, would have to resort to posting YouTube videos of fat WalMart shoppers to gain approval from anonymous drones on the Interwebs.
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Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
3316
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Posted - 2013.11.12 17:26:00 -
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Scams. Uses shills to fake legitimacy. Griefer. Humiliates people like Heavy Rayne and manipulates the story to raise more ****. Using self created **** storm as platform.
gr8 b8 m8. I r8 8/biomass.
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Desperado-Enforcement LLC
19
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Posted - 2013.11.12 18:02:00 -
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Galadriel Vasquez wrote:Interesting announcement. Who is the real Erotica1??
1) A low down dirty scammer who lures pilots into a web of ISK doubling and makes profit off of the hapless fools in Jita.
2) A philanthropist that is a genuine ISK doubler and offers a legitimate service...
3) An opportunist that has cleverly maneuvered himself to being the prime contact for ISK rinsing.
4) A political animal that has aspirations of being the next big thing and using the CSM to achieve fame/notoriety?
5) A genuine guy who is trying to make EVE online a better place and is enjoying his role play tremendously too!
6) A James315 alt.........
Whatever the definition of the real Erotica1 I enjoy the countless threads and I do like to watch in Jita the outbreaks of verbose jousting.
Good luck to you .
I will watch the developing plot with interest - the Meta is too strong to resist!
Is there an all of the above option? Never thought about isk rinsing though... hm, that could be an interesting service. I hate to disagree with you,-ábut there is nothing subjective about "boring" in connection to "mining". -á-á-á-á -- Solstice Project's Alt |
Tollen Gallen
Xionworld
2725
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Posted - 2013.11.12 18:06:00 -
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I like Snow. Zimmy Zeta -I f*cking love martinis.the original ones, with gin, not that vodka martini crap. |
Xavier Higdon
Wolfbane Hauler Inc
85
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Posted - 2013.11.12 18:08:00 -
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Here, allow me to repost this, as it appears it was overlooked on accident:
Erotica 1, you have stated that you would make an excellent advocate for all play styles, that you do not believe one play style is correct and another is incorrect. You said, in the press conference, that you believe all types of players need a voice. This included high sec miners, missioners, gankers, scammers and so on. A number of your core supporters, however, have expressed the view that certain play styles are invalid, as well as expressing the view that "some" people shouldn't even be playing EvE Online. On the other side of this are those players that feel your play style is invalid, or that you victimize unknowing players, specifically newer ones, for your enjoyment. Since you have stated that you would be an advocate for both of these groups, how do you plan on reconciling their vastly different opinions?
Erotica 1, some of your core supporters often express the opinion that Hi Sec should be removed from the game, denegrated into another segment of Null Sec or otherwise changed in a manner that would result in it no longer being Hi Sec. Is this your view as well? If it is, how do you reconcile that with your claim of being a fair representative of all players? If it is not your view, how do you intend to appease those core supporters that believe this is an integral part of "their" EvE while also maintaining the integrity of Hi Sec?
As well, you have recently stated in this thread that you want to improve EvE for the "broad community." Can you please explain to us what this broad community is? Does it constitute the whole of the EvE playerbase? If it does not, please explain which parts of the playerbase are apart of the community and which parts are not, in your opinion. If it does, please further explain how you intend to represent such a large disparity of play styles. A proud member of Wolfbane Hauler Inc. We are currently recruiting pilots of all skill levels. We need both industrial combat specialists. For more information see our ad:-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3764273&#post3764273 |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
3484
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Posted - 2013.11.12 18:09:00 -
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Laserak wrote:I dont know who erotica 1 is and I would never support anyone with such a silly name.
Why are people talking about CSM already? Same people who wish Xmas in October. |
Winchester Steele
199
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Posted - 2013.11.12 18:54:00 -
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X. Without hesitation on all my accounts. ... |
Haedonism Bot
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
447
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Posted - 2013.11.12 19:29:00 -
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Someday I hope to be so EVE famous that the various threads about me in General Discussion need to be consolidated by ISDs. Join the Revolutionary Front and liberate New Eden from it's stuff.
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Katarina Panatri
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:56:00 -
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I don't like what you do, but that doesn't mean I don't understand or appreciate it.
Yes I would vote you in |
DaiTengu
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
150
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Posted - 2013.11.12 21:07:00 -
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Katarina Panatri wrote:I don't like what you do, but that doesn't mean I don't understand or appreciate it.
Yes I would vote you in
Why, when there's so many other candidates that run on similar platforms who aren't lazy, egotistical (for no good reason, I hadn't heard of the guy before a few days ago and he's in my coalition), media-whores? |
Caydn
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.11.12 21:27:00 -
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Not now, not ever. |
GetSirrus
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
64
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Posted - 2013.11.12 21:30:00 -
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no reason to bother; the last one from miner bumping was all talk and no walk. |
Katarina Panatri
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.11.12 21:31:00 -
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Because I don't think the act of mobilising a shift in views and general community contribution is bad. Whether you like it or not erotica has been a source of much that has recently happened in the high security environment of the game. Yes it is at the expense of some players but you play eve, it's a social game no matter if you like it or not.
I don't think you can say that he is lazy, seems a bit unfair a statement. He has catalysed a change in attitudes and game play for many a player if even only that miners are learning to stay aligned, it may seem small but every step of this has benefited players. What better excuse is there to learn and immerse yourself than fear of harm?
If you wish to join the rackets that is equally an option, and this speaks to me as anything but laziness.
I think erotica has done the game good, and if he would like to take that to a more official level I am happy to give my support.
I myself don't mine anywhere they can touch me, and if they did try we would bring out fleets to protect ourselves and be happy for the opportunity of a good fight. I have no interest in joining the new order or any of that zealotry. I just support what he has achieved and acknowledge that in the former of support for CSM |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
586
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Posted - 2013.11.12 21:35:00 -
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Honestly, depends how many other CFC candidates there are. One coalition shouldn't be over-represented on the CSM. |
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
683
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Posted - 2013.11.12 21:40:00 -
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KnowUsByTheDead wrote:Tonight Erotica 1 announced his intent on running for CSM.
x up if you would support him.
If you do not, please post a thread voicing your concerns, and perhaps he could address them.
His? Crap... I had all these lesbian fantasies going on about her... sigh. And no, I wouldn't support him. I don't support anyone because I think the CSM is a sham. *removed inappropriate signature* - CCP Eterne |
Zimmy Zeta
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
35898
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Posted - 2013.11.12 21:58:00 -
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Laserak wrote:I dont know who erotica 1 is and I would never support anyone with such a silly name.
Why are people talking about CSM already?
Erotica 1 is bigger than John Lennon and Jesus combined. Fact.
That being said, I am still not sure if voting him on the CSM would be any good. There are many current and former CSM members, some of them even pretty decent. But there is only one 100% legit isk doubler in this game. ISK doubling is serious business and simply too important for the whole game, not sure if we can afford losing Erotica 1 to the CSM.
I'm just going to walk the Earth. You know, like Caine in Kung Fu: walk from place to place, meet people, get into adventures and die of autoerotic asphyxation in a sleazy Thai hotel room. |
DaiTengu
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
150
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Posted - 2013.11.12 22:03:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Honestly, depends how many other CFC candidates there are. One coalition shouldn't be over-represented on the CSM.
I can tell you right now that this guy will not be an official CFC candidate.
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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
2371
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Posted - 2013.11.12 22:30:00 -
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Xavier Higdon wrote:Here, allow me to repost this, as it appears it was overlooked on accident:
Erotica 1, you have stated that you would make an excellent advocate for all play styles, that you do not believe one play style is correct and another is incorrect. You said, in the press conference, that you believe all types of players need a voice. This included high sec miners, missioners, gankers, scammers and so on. A number of your core supporters, however, have expressed the view that certain play styles are invalid, as well as expressing the view that "some" people shouldn't even be playing EvE Online. On the other side of this are those players that feel your play style is invalid, or that you victimize unknowing players, specifically newer ones, for your enjoyment. Since you have stated that you would be an advocate for both of these groups, how do you plan on reconciling their vastly different opinions?
Erotica 1, some of your core supporters often express the opinion that Hi Sec should be removed from the game, denegrated into another segment of Null Sec or otherwise changed in a manner that would result in it no longer being Hi Sec. Is this your view as well? If it is, how do you reconcile that with your claim of being a fair representative of all players? If it is not your view, how do you intend to appease those core supporters that believe this is an integral part of "their" EvE while also maintaining the integrity of Hi Sec?
As well, you have recently stated in this thread that you want to improve EvE for the "broad community." Can you please explain to us what this broad community is? Does it constitute the whole of the EvE playerbase? If it does not, please explain which parts of the playerbase are apart of the community and which parts are not, in your opinion. If it does, please further explain how you intend to represent such a large disparity of play styles.
Answer 1
The TL/DR answer is that I support the sandbox, which should be protected and enhanced. Let's take mining for example. Mining is a dreadfully terrible activity. Gankers bring some excitement to this. I am against anything that makes mining safer and more afk. I'm not a big fan of achieving things through nerfs and buffs, generally speaking. I have given an example in the past in the forums, and used the same example the other night on teamspeak...
Imagine all of the ice disappeared throughout all of high sec. Perhaps only a particular kind to start, but more varieties would continue to vanish until players start trying to solve the mystery. A news release comes out (a CCP live event- series of events) and from there we get some sort of storyline mission that requires a lot of players to join together to complete a variety of missions that develop over time to solve the mystery. Eventually... a few days or a month (depending on player involvement) the mystery is solved and the Ice returns. It may require a bunch of miners to join in and help in some way to achieve the group goal of solving the mystery.
The above example, which I think would be pretty cool, could bring different players together (miners, missioners, gankers- who wish to stop the mission from succeeding, etc.) It would break up the monotony if ice mining, offer mission runners a new and exciting story- that requires players to work together (or against each other) and just generally be a fun thing for lots of people to do, together, in this great multiplayer game we share.
A related idea which others, chiefly Sabriz Adoudel, have suggested is a new pvp/pve hybrid. A mission runner could go to an agent and accept a mission to blow up a certain number of miners in a particular system, or attack a specific player, or actively do a regular sort of mission but have someone else in the mission who accepted another mission from another agent to take the opposing side.
It's ideas like this that open up the sandbox further and encourage player interaction. These ideas will change the nature of certain play styles, I believe, for the better. Change can be scary.
I hope this helps to answer your first question. I'm sure this question of yours will be a central issue for voters to consider and debate. I['m sure we will revisit it a number of times.
Answer 2
I would like to improve the game for all players. I can imagine some followup questions to that, and I will address those.
Answer 3
You ask another question about the removal of highsec. Clearly, highsec needs to be changed over time. I believe CCP will be doing that, and they are starting with Rubicon. I do not think everything needs to be like nullsec. I like the general idea of jigh/low/null but would like to see some changes that make the differences more fun and make more sense. Concord and Concord response are a key part of that. It is not just about nerfing/buffing certain things such as Concord response times. We need bigger changes. I will get into this a lot more later. Right now, I need to go.
I hope that helps. I welcome your detailed and thoughtful questions.
-Ero See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did.
-á11/11/13 -áNow Running for the Next CSM. -áVote for the Sandbox. -áVote for Erotica 1 |
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Lugia3
Emerald Inc.
642
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Posted - 2013.11.12 22:48:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:The TL/DR answer is that I support the sandbox, which should be protected and enhanced.
Erotica 1 wrote:Imagine all of the ice disappeared throughout all of high sec. Perhaps only a particular kind to start, but more varieties would continue to vanish until players start trying to solve the mystery. A news release comes out (a CCP live event- series of events) and from there we get some sort of storyline mission that requires a lot of players to join together to complete a variety of missions that develop over time to solve the mystery. Eventually... a few days or a month (depending on player involvement) the mystery is solved and the Ice returns. It may require a bunch of miners to join in and help in some way to achieve the group goal of solving the mystery.
That is the very opposite of a sandbox activity. May as well call it a quest and sell it for $15. |
Jessica Braun
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2013.11.12 23:16:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote: Imagine all of the ice disappeared throughout all of high sec. Perhaps only a particular kind to start, but more varieties would continue to vanish until players start trying to solve the mystery. A news release comes out (a CCP live event- series of events) and from there we get some sort of storyline mission that requires a lot of players to join together to complete a variety of missions that develop over time to solve the mystery. Eventually... a few days or a month (depending on player involvement) the mystery is solved and the Ice returns. It may require a bunch of miners to join in and help in some way to achieve the group goal of solving the mystery.
The above example, which I think would be pretty cool, could bring different players together (miners, missioners, gankers- who wish to stop the mission from succeeding, etc.) It would break up the monotony if ice mining, offer mission runners a new and exciting story- that requires players to work together (or against each other) and just generally be a fun thing for lots of people to do, together, in this great multiplayer game we share.
I hope that helps. I welcome your detailed and thoughtful questions.
-Ero
Question -- When are you leaving to go play Star Wars the Old Republic? What's next; companions?
The group goal you mention would not be to solve the mystery but to end the irritation of having no fuc^ing ice.
The cynic in me questions your motivation. Particularly when you mention gankers and their desire to breakup this little community quest. This is more about greater visibility for your James toon then it is for anything 'community' related.
Forget all the snark and lip gloss comments I wrote. Failure to understand what a sandbox is disqualifies you. |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
2372
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Posted - 2013.11.12 23:32:00 -
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Lugia3 wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:The TL/DR answer is that I support the sandbox, which should be protected and enhanced. Erotica 1 wrote:Imagine all of the ice disappeared throughout all of high sec. Perhaps only a particular kind to start, but more varieties would continue to vanish until players start trying to solve the mystery. A news release comes out (a CCP live event- series of events) and from there we get some sort of storyline mission that requires a lot of players to join together to complete a variety of missions that develop over time to solve the mystery. Eventually... a few days or a month (depending on player involvement) the mystery is solved and the Ice returns. It may require a bunch of miners to join in and help in some way to achieve the group goal of solving the mystery. That is the very opposite of a sandbox activity. May as well call it a quest and sell it for $15.
I disagree. Something like this would force certain groups of players experience more of Eve and interact. Furthermore, it could introduce all sorts of emergent gameplay in response, especially if others can join in on the other side.
But this is also why, at the core, I am running on a set of basic ideas with the understanding that I am actively soliciting ideas and encouraging the community to debate them. If you think that I have some agenda for certain players, you are mistaken.
The only agenda is to protect and enhance the sandbox and to encourage more transparency and open discussion.
If you have specific points and questions to raise, in some level of detail, please do.
Thanks. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did.
-á11/11/13 -áNow Running for the Next CSM. -áVote for the Sandbox. -áVote for Erotica 1 |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2153
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Posted - 2013.11.12 23:37:00 -
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I wouldn't. His antics in his "bonus room" have gotten creepy in a way that even goons find appalling. For that reason, he sure as hell won't be appearing on the official CFC ballot list. Whatever support he can dredge up here is what he'll get. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
2372
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Posted - 2013.11.12 23:43:00 -
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mynnna wrote:I wouldn't. His antics in his "bonus room" have gotten creepy in a way that even goons find appalling. For that reason, he sure as hell won't be appearing on the official CFC ballot list. Whatever support he can dredge up here is what he'll get.
As I will address in more detail soon, there has been an odd campaign lately to silence our voices. I am not standing down, and I will not let the status quo stand. Together, we can change things and make Eve better for everyone. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did.
-á11/11/13 -áNow Running for the Next CSM. -áVote for the Sandbox. -áVote for Erotica 1 |
Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
4486
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Posted - 2013.11.12 23:44:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:Eventually... a few days or a month (depending on player involvement) the mystery is solved and the Ice returns. It may require a bunch of miners to join in and help in some way to achieve the group goal of solving the mystery. That's ridiculous.
You want to turn EvE into Scooby Doo.
I hate Scooby Doo. I hate Scooby Doo so much, my first ever podkill was a pilot called HANNAH BARBERA ! |
Caydn
The Scope Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.11.13 00:02:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:mynnna wrote:I wouldn't. His antics in his "bonus room" have gotten creepy in a way that even goons find appalling. For that reason, he sure as hell won't be appearing on the official CFC ballot list. Whatever support he can dredge up here is what he'll get. As I will address in more detail soon, there has been an odd campaign lately to silence our voices. I am not standing down, and I will not let the status quo stand. Together, we can change things and make Eve better for everyone.
The only way you're going to improve the game is to bio-mass yourself out of the game. |
Vordek Rei
Nexus Incorporated
22
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Posted - 2013.11.13 00:33:00 -
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mynnna wrote:I wouldn't. His antics in his "bonus room" have gotten creepy in a way that even goons find appalling. For that reason, he sure as hell won't be appearing on the official CFC ballot list. Whatever support he can dredge up here is what he'll get.
Mynnna just got my vote |
Jong Fera
The TERRA Guardians of Serenity
0
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Posted - 2013.11.13 00:34:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:Lugia3 wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:The TL/DR answer is that I support the sandbox, which should be protected and enhanced. Erotica 1 wrote:Imagine all of the ice disappeared throughout all of high sec. Perhaps only a particular kind to start, but more varieties would continue to vanish until players start trying to solve the mystery. A news release comes out (a CCP live event- series of events) and from there we get some sort of storyline mission that requires a lot of players to join together to complete a variety of missions that develop over time to solve the mystery. Eventually... a few days or a month (depending on player involvement) the mystery is solved and the Ice returns. It may require a bunch of miners to join in and help in some way to achieve the group goal of solving the mystery. That is the very opposite of a sandbox activity. May as well call it a quest and sell it for $15. I disagree. Something like this would force certain groups of players experience more of Eve and interact. Furthermore, it could introduce all sorts of emergent gameplay in response, especially if others can join in on the other side. But this is also why, at the core, I am running on a set of basic ideas with the understanding that I am actively soliciting ideas and encouraging the community to debate them. If you think that I have some agenda for certain players, you are mistaken. The only agenda is to protect and enhance the sandbox and to encourage more transparency and open discussion. If you have specific points and questions to raise, in some level of detail, please do. Regarding the next player immediately above this post, I am not James 315. Try to imagine Eve as it is today but better. I encourage you to contribute ideas and concerns. I ask that you get past the "no ice" issue and see the possibilities to make your game more fun. Also, as previously mentioned many times, it is but one idea, and I am very open to constructive criticism. Also, I forget to mention that I would support the mission rewards to be fair enough to compensate for the reduction of Ice temporarily. It would also be an interesting way to seed new and limited items into the game. Thanks.
As most of your actions are something like : i win - we loose, i scam - we loose, i ask for money - we loose ... and most of them are regarded to miners (maybe you have a miner fetish) , is very hard to believe that you can do something constructive for a COMMUNITY . There is too much I and no WE . By your ideas and your gameplay, i believe Counter Strike suits you better ... you can even try to go on their CSM if they have one . |
Charles Wu-Wong
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
24
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Posted - 2013.11.13 00:54:00 -
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If Ero runs when I am actually interested in the CSM (read, elections), I will probably vote, in the same way I voted for Psychotic Monk this year. Bring on the drama.
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