No vote from me. Fail to see what a scammer can do to support anyone, other than themselves.

After listening in on the announcement and hearing Erotica1s responses to all the questions and his position....



Erotica1 has my X for CSM.

If only I hadn't been at work, I would have been listening. Do you have the highlights, transcripts, or any such?

No from me

Nice to listen to but

Your in a alliance that just ganks chars new and old. You scam monies out of people and you also X for yourself which is the bit that pushed it over the edge for me

No from me

Nice to listen to but

Your in a alliance that just ganks chars new and old. You scam monies out of people and you also X for yourself which is the bit that pushed it over the edge for me

No vote from me. Fail to see what a scammer can do to support anyone, other than themselves.

I would gladly vote for you but

Its like your being a politician.

When running an election you can throw money about and let people win stuff so they cast there vote for you. You can make yourself known as much as possible by hammering the forums putting in any quote you can and with a little twist to big yourself up on how you would do this and how you would do that.

The reason why im in limbo about this is because of your record. Its like for the past year or so you have pushed yourself to scam as many people as you can and be with a crowd that just mindlessly gank the crap out of people. Now saying that I understand its mainly the chars fault for being in that position.


I understand its other chars faults that they have been stupid enough to donate stuff to you and play your scams but at the end of the day you sat there thinking how can I rip people off and proceeded to do it. I think your actually doing this to much for you like all the other stuff you have done and not for the sandbox.

Im very on the wire on this one

Good luck however

Well I'd need to read all the candidates platforms and carefully weigh their different views before I made a decision...

I can't believe I just wrote that with a straight face. I'll just shoot a spit-wad at my monitor like I usually do and vote for whoever it sticks to.

Mr Epeen

give me a reason to vote pls :P

I voted for Darius so I will vote for Erotica 1, after all, what is the difference?

Read more on that topic at CAOD. I think TEST FW waterboys are coming and bringing a popcorn machine. They have us right where they want us.

But anyway, I appreciate your vote of confidence!


For those that choose to troll this thread in disagreement, can you please either stay on topic instead of do what the OP asks and make your own dissenting thread? This one will be the happy thread. The other one can be the sad, tearful thread. I support happiness, so I hope tears don't prevail...

I fail to see how a scammer and member of a griefing organisation that is responsible for causing a few of my friends to leave the game could be a good thing for EVE or the CSM.

Good luck in your campaign, but I can't in good conscience add to your vote tally. o7

Lol, It makes no difference who is on the CSM, CCP will do what ever they want to regardless. CSM is nothing more then a meat shield for CCP.

That is why its good to vote people like Erotica 1 because at the very least we get some entertainment.

Read CAOD... I would rather put my wedding tackle into a lion's mouth and flick his love spuds with a wet towel

Nice Red Dwarf quote

Gentlemen, please let's not derail the thread.

Thank you, I appreciate it.

Gentlemen, please let's not derail the thread.

Thank you, I appreciate it.

smeggy smegging smegger, smeg off

nope

reason: Erotica1 uses lie to play his/her isk doubling scam. It makes this person not trustworthy from start.

I fail to see how a scammer and member of a griefing organisation that is responsible for causing a few of my friends to leave the game could be a good thing for EVE or the CSM.

Good luck in your campaign, but I can't in good conscience add to your vote tally. o7

No. Not gonna vote for a snot nose kid whoring for attentions.

After voting for some useless absentee low/null clones last csm...yeah why not. This way we at least stand a chance of getting someone from HS on it regardless of whether you agree with his play style or not.

I'm a HS miner/missioner/indy so you'll probably hate my play style as well.

BTW I would much prefer a transcript rather than a download from somewhere to my laptop...just saying

X

As I'm a bit ignorant of who Erotica 1 is I will wait to see what he/she has to offer before I make my decision.

Blocked ingame and out of the game, does that answer your question OP?

How do you block out of game?

How do you block out of game?

Read CAOD... I would rather put my wedding tackle into a lion's mouth and flick his love spuds with a wet towel

Knock Knock.. J/K!!!

Seriously guys, can we get the angry opposition to make their own thread so we can get back to business? 2 separate threads showcasing opposing viewpoints will be cleaner than this one going to hell.

What the **** is wrong with your mind? What the **** are you smoking? How the **** do you make a thread ASKING if anyone would vote for you when you tell every nay sayers to make their own separate thread? How the **** are you even justifying yourself to throw in yourself for candidacy when you won't allow people to voice their opinions????????? DA ****???????

What the **** is wrong with your mind? What the **** are you smoking? How the **** do you make a thread ASKING if anyone would vote for you when you tell every nay sayers to make their own separate thread? How the **** are you even justifying yourself to throw in yourself for candidacy when you won't allow people to voice their opinions????????? DA ****???????

Shamefully lifted AJ Rimmer quote detected

No shame here

Someone didn't get the memo about the 4 hour public event today where I address some issues and ask for questions live on ts unscripted.

*edit* more tears please, but on a new tear thread. Your post is off topic.

This may come as some surprise to many of you. But I hereby place my "x" in full support of Erotica 1. I was in the press conference, and I must say, it was far better than expected. We even had a female supporter write Erotica 1 for CSM on her chest and somewhere else I shouldn't mention here. Not only did Erotica 1, and all the guests who spoke up, deliver amazing content, but there were about 100 guys that were horny for a couple hours. Impressive!

X

Someone didn't get the memo about the 4 hour public event today where I address some issues and ask for questions live on ts unscripted.

*edit* more tears please, but on a new tear thread. Your post is off topic.

Better than blindly voting, so +1 to you sir!

*edit* You can read about some of my adventures on www.minerbumping.com and www.belligerentundesirables.com as well as google searches.

Who the **** cares about your ******* 1 time attention seeking event. Do this for ******* 10 years consistently then you'd convince me on squeezing a vote out of me.

Please refrain from personal attacks, this is not nice.

This may come as some surprise to many of you. But I hereby place my "x" in full support of Erotica 1. I was in the press conference, and I must say, it was far better than expected. We even had a female supporter write Erotica 1 for CSM on her chest and somewhere else I shouldn't mention here. Not only did Erotica 1, and all the guests who spoke up, deliver amazing content, but there were about 100 guys that were horny for a couple hours. Impressive!

X

Personally, I won't vote for you no, the reason being that you are a scammer and you thrive of lying and decieting others in game. You are well know for this so to trust what you say would be counter productive in my opinion. I cannot, and will not trust anything that you say.

That being said, I will not deny that Erotica 1 provides content, granted its not the kind of content I am interested in but it is content none-the-less.

There are a lot of people in this thread that are stating they WILL NOT vote at all, something tells me these are the same people that are going to winge and moan if you do actually get a place on the CSM. If you dont vote, then you dont have a say on who runs or what they do should they get a position.

Personally I will not vote for you, but good luck in your campaign. And if you do get a spot, maybe you will be able to change my mind.

Who the **** cares about your ******* 1 time attention seeking event. Do this for ******* 10 years consistently then you'd convince me on squeezing a vote out of me.

100m isk for my vote

Now, that's democracy.

Tonight Erotica 1 announced his intent on running for CSM.

x up if you would support him.

If you do not, please post a thread voicing your concerns, and perhaps he could address them.

Tonight Erotica 1 announced his intent on running for CSM.

x up if you would support him.

If you do not, please post a thread voicing your concerns, and perhaps he could address them.

I am more than happy to report that I have never been lied to by Erotica 1, and I have had my isk doubled by her successfully without issue.

Idk what these people are talking about "scams" for.

Self publicity with an alt is the oldest trick in the book.

Try to be more inventive.

X

Vote for the Sandbox! Double your sand!

Perhaps next time you can be in comms with us all, so that you cannot continue, like most, to delude yourself into believing we are all alts, lmao.

After all, it was posted in GD, for the entire community to attend.

Try to actually stay on topic.

Mmkay? Thanks.

Self publicity with an alt is the oldest trick in the book.

Try to be more inventive.

Perhaps next time you can be in comms with us all, so that you cannot continue, like most, to delude yourself into believing we are all alts, lmao.

100m isk for my vote

Now, that's democracy.

Perhaps next time you can be in comms with us all, so that you cannot continue, like most, to delude yourself into believing we are all alts, lmao.

After all, it was posted in GD, for the entire community to attend.

Try to actually stay on topic.

Mmkay? Thanks.

This may come as some surprise to many of you. But I hereby place my "x" in full support of Erotica 1. I was in the press conference, and I must say, it was far better than expected. We even had a female supporter write Erotica 1 for CSM on her chest and somewhere else I shouldn't mention here. Not only did Erotica 1, and all the guests who spoke up, deliver amazing content, but there were about 100 guys that were horny for a couple hours. Impressive!

X

Confirming this was my GF haha, she had a lot of fun giving you nerds something to fap about XD Also for some of the reading I was getting the special treatment.

But seriously, a vote for Erotica 1 is a vote for the sandbox, a vote NOT to have what made EVE the brutal game it was stripped away in order to coddle to the weak. If you get scammed, shame on you for trusting people in a video and not considering what you put up to stake. This isn't about attention, it's about stopping the hemorrhaging of features that have made the game cut-throat.

Please list for those of us that aren't "in the know" the features you are stating have been hemorrhaged. I am still attempting to put together the timeline of events that leads people to believe CCP is removing things from the game. If you could help me with this that would be great. Dates, times and proof of such things is important. After all, if CCP is refunding only the SP of those scammed by Erotica 1 I do not see that as an issue for anyone but those people, since it's unlikely that they have any impact on the gameplay of others. If, however, you have evidence of CCP systematically refunding the SP of players involved in events that impact large portions of the playerbase, please share it with us so that we can make a stand and stop such activity. And if it is a single instance of a single player being given a singular reimbursement, please explain to us how that constitutes the "hemorrhaging" of features. Thank you!

No, the "code" is not creating content, i can't hate on Ero for his scamming, because honestly, you should know better than to fall for it.

But the whole new order bull is exactly that, bull.

It is nothing more than extortion of people weaker than you, sorry, i don't buy the hype.

No, the "code" is not creating content, i can't hate on Ero for his scamming, because honestly, you should know better than to fall for it.

But the whole new order bull is exactly that, bull.

It is nothing more than extortion of people weaker than you, sorry, i don't buy the hype.

100m isk for my vote

Now, that's democracy.

I'm incredibly new to this game, so excuse anything I ask that should be common sense.

1. What does the CSM actually do?
2. What would you like to see happen to newer players? I.E. Easier or harder beginning for new players

Right now, I'm just getting my feet wet and mining/missioning is really my only course of gameplay at the moment, and most players seem heavily against that. What is your stance on mining/missioning?

its not hard to do alittle back ground check

For those that choose to troll this thread in disagreement

No

i have nothing against going after, afk miners, extortion, scamming, or the like, thats part of EvE, but what my objection is, is that Ero and the code is probably one of the main reason beginners give up and leave Eve of late, i see it fairly often in cas, and like anything in Eve wheter you try to gank, or extort, its not hard to do alittle back ground check or scanning... and picking on beginners that barely know what they do, is just plain poor judgement, and not a person id like to represent the entire EvE comunity... thank you

derp

I tried reading your post, but as I got about half-way through it I realized it was a gigantic call for attention and legitimacy. Whenever someone great like Erotica 1 rises to the forefront, there will always be those little fish who try to swim along for the ride and get famous-by-association.

Is that the American way?

Lol, It makes no difference who is on the CSM, CCP will do what ever they want to regardless. CSM is nothing more then a meat shield for CCP.

That is why its good to vote people like Erotica 1 because at the very least we get some entertainment.

It really doesn't matter what Erotica 1 does, who Erotica 1 is affiliated with, who's alt Erotica 1 is, whether you believe Erotica 1 is nothing more the a big goon scam, Erotica 1 provides entertainment and in no way will effect anything that CCP does.

So vote for Erotica 1 so we can have 12 months of more entertaining posts

All of the people in the bonus round, sans 1 that I know of, were veteran players. It is not their naivety that drives them to ruin - but their own greed and lack of faith.

Also, can you site some of these "many cases" of new players leaving EVE specifically because of the CODE? Thanks.

I tried reading your post, but as I got about half-way through it I realized it was a gigantic call for attention and legitimacy. Whenever someone great like Erotica 1 rises to the forefront, there will always be those little fish who try to swim along for the ride and get famous-by-association.

For clarity, I'd like to say the following:

This situation was brought to our attention on Friday, and was re-investigated by Customer Support over the course of the weekend, after taking into consideration the concerns presented by the community.

As such, the circumstances surrounding this issue have been revisited, and the proper action has been taken in line with our policies.

CCP will however, not share information with third parties regarding action taken against individual players or accounts. We can assure everyone that no one is exempt from the rules and that Customer Support will act in accordance to the EULA and ToS when determining the proper action against any offending account or character.

This makes our position on the matter clear. Any further threads relating to this issue will be regarded as spam, will be closed in accordance with our moderation policy, and will be redirected to this message.

Long quote.

Thats surprisingly close to the truth.

Feel free to ask Erotica for his logs though, im sure he will be happy to fill you in on the other half.

As i said, what happens to people that have some concepts on how the game works, i doubt the begginers i am pointing to would ewen pick a event up like that ;P

Why not take a few weeks in a beginner corp and listen around, or give them a tip or two... if that isent good for you, Osmon a few months back, i actually had this conversation in local with Rick, and he was rather smug about it, why dont you ask him yourself ?

I understand some will feel this way. I hope after you listen to the full recording and participate in other events, I can change your mind. If not, I understand why. However, I'd like you to open your mind to the possibility of what I propose.


Oh, and obviously...


X

No.

I have no issues with ganking. I have no issue with miner bumping. I have no issue with scamming in local.

However, when someone spends hours stringing someone along in a humiliating scam for their own amusement purposely causing them to lose all their skill points and quit Eve, that crosses the line from roleplaying a bad person to actually being a bad person. This happened to a new player from my corp. Erotica 1 is a bad person and we shouldn't have someone on the CSM whose career in game is making people quit Eve.

The house always wins. This is news how?

**** recordings, get the stuff in writing and post it somewhere.

If I 'x' will I get my 'x' doubled?

Well I'd need to read all the candidates platforms and carefully weigh their different views before I made a decision...

I can't believe I just wrote that with a straight face. I'll just shoot a spit-wad at my monitor like I usually do and vote for whoever it sticks to.

Mr Epeen

The recordings were an exercise in futility.

This!


I like T2 or Faction Fitted Navy Battleships.....

Do I look American? :p

I'm from Poland. Our political parties get money from the national budget.
However we hunt polar bears, do not now the fridge yet, we have no hot water (to be healthy) and we all go to church everyday...so what do we know

It's a game, I want my 100m isk for my vote, I didn't get it yet, so I start to believe that other candidates have a better plan for EVE...

btw. Josef, are you from Georgia?

I have to agree i was expecting a bit more, the recordings are garbage and boring as hell.

After 15 min i got bored with listening to a recording of a article, i had already read, seems like nothing much is going on in the new order, and they are beating story of the skillpoint dude to death.

If there is going to be a next time i hope then release something entertaining, i understand Erotica 1 like to hear him self talk but this "press release" was just awful.

I'll give it a troll rating of 2/10 for performance and 0/10 for content,

I left Georgia some time ago, moved to Russia to show them and other folk what real null-sec is like.

No namby pamby hi-sec in my Russia!

I will vote Erotica 1, provided you hire yourself an editor to improve your future PR efforts.

The value-per-minute of these recordings is very, very low.

But then people will accuse Ero of doctoring the tapes in Ero's favor. By providing raw tapes, mere minutes after they were recorded by the way, no one can say that they were edited.

But then people will accuse Ero of doctoring the tapes in Ero's favor. By providing raw tapes, mere minutes after they were recorded by the way, no one can say that they were edited.

Player driven content has always been the heart of games like EVE. And player driven content is most certainly the future of EVE, as well. No one can deny that Erotica 1 creates content; Erotica 1 is the future of EVE.

Vote early; vote often; vote Erotica 1.

I won't vote for Erotica1, because I think if she won't have time to create player driven content and do the CSM thing.

And yet he wants you to believe he would represent the playerbase fairly? .

I welcome all of my detractors here to come to the next one and help improve the content. Bring your toughest questions.

You welcome us so that Bao Xi can mute anyone that disagrees with you? I brought questions, you called me a troll. I continued to ask them, you called me an alt of Heavy Rayne. I still persisted, and Bao Xi muted me. It seems a bit hypocritical to demand "transparency" from CCP when your response to dissent is to attempt to silence it. Vote for Erotica 1, guys! He'll give voice to your desires*!

*Said desires must be in line with the personal goals of Erotica 1. These personal goals include, but are not limited to, the complete destruction of EvE Online, the financial ruin of CCP, the cessation of playability within the Game Universe, a new mechanic which requires all players to pay a toll in PLEX or currency for the priviledge to leave a New Player Station. Erotica 1 is not responsible for any ill effects these goals might have on EvE Online or CCP. Erotica 1 and his alts may change these goals at any time, without notice and for any reason. Failure to allign your goals with those of Erotica 1 is an admittance of being an alt of a player he once scammed. Failure to admit that you are an alt of a player he once scammed is an admittance of being a troll. Failure to admit to being a troll will result in you being ignored by Erotica 1 and his alts. Any attempt to call Erotica 1 a scammer will result in your immediate flaming on the forums, including but not limited to accusations of being an alt of someone he once scammed, being a CCP "fanboi," being a "carebear," being incapable of seeing the ruination of EvE Online RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES and/or being an alt of Heavy Rayne. Terms and conditions apply. Erotica 1 giving voice to your desires is not available in any area outside of "the bonus room" and goon space.

If the current CSM is any indication, Erotica 1 will have plenty of time to continue creating content, and fulfill all the duties of the CSM as well.

Who is the current CSM, anyway?

Why would anyone want a scammer and spammer to represent them?
Lowest of the low, make no sense.

Who is the current CSM, anyway?

Why would anyone want a scammer and spammer to represent them?
Lowest of the low, make no sense.

Well. There's Malcanis, mynnna, and then a bunch of other people that you rarely, if ever, see.

All of the people in the bonus round, sans 1 that I know of, were veteran players. It is not their naivety that drives them to ruin - but their own greed and lack of faith.

Also, can you site some of these "many cases" of new players leaving EVE specifically because of the CODE? Thanks.

This thread is not about Erotica's former forum post about Heavy Rayne. Stop derailing this thread and stay on topic.

Erotica1, how about you start a thread about what you want to accomplish/achieve if you become a CSM? I would like to know what your views are on the numerous issues concerning EVE. Such as, NULLSEC SOV, POS Changes, FW problems, and your favorite - HISEC. Personally I do not see a reason why I should vote for you, or support you as a candidate. Convince me otherwise.

It was people like Psychotic Monk, Erotica 1, James 315, and others who brought me to this game. These are also the folks that generate the content that keeps me coming back.

You welcome us so that Bao Xi can mute anyone that disagrees with you? I brought questions, you called me a troll. I continued to ask them, you called me an alt of Heavy Rayne. I still persisted, and Bao Xi muted me. It seems a bit hypocritical to demand "transparency" from CCP when your response to dissent is to attempt to silence it. Vote for Erotica 1, guys! He'll give voice to your desires*!

Maybe you should learn to not be a sheeple?

Why would anyone want a scammer and spammer to represent them?
Lowest of the low, make no sense.

Dear Bao Xi, if you want to support Erotica 1, you should stop posting.

She is funny, you are just strident and annoying.

I remember taking the executive decision to block you after repeatedly asking you to stop arguing and listen to the Town Hall until the part at the end where everybody could ask questions.

You came in with your mind made up, and instead of actually listening to the material being released, you just typed away frantically. I simply asked you to reserve judgement until Erotica and others had finished speaking.

Perhaps if you could contain yourself, you wouldn't be booted out of the presser. I only muted you for 30 minutes, and I stand by my decision. You were basically the equivalent of the redneck who calls Obama a gay-Kenyan-socialist-Muslim-fascist at a campaign event.

If you think your questions (which were obviously based out of ignorance and an unwillingness to hear the full story) were somehow "good", then I am truly sorry that we made the mistake of inviting you to the event. I was under the impression that you might, indeed, be a rational and thinking person.

I saw last night, and I am continuing to see today, that you are unwilling to engage with us in a robust and well informed debate.

Perhaps you are just a troll, after all. That was my first instinct.

And I know you'll hit it, because i know it's controlling you completely.


Cheers.

No from me

Nice to listen to but

Your in a alliance that just ganks chars new and old. You scam monies out of people and you also X for yourself which is the bit that pushed it over the edge for me

However, for those of us that don't receive any of the ISK or assets taken from the "bonus room" victims, her "emergent gameplay" is quite meaningless.

It's delightful that you feel you have the authority to speak on the behalf of that many players.

You're also completely incorrect. The fact that Erotica 1 has you fired up enough to be arguing with Bao Xi and posting walls of text is intensely amusing to me; Erotica has indirectly enhanced my game through this emergent gameplay. Your over the top response to being called out for trolling is absolutely wonderful to watch, and Reality TV could scarcely do better.

Thank you Xavier, and thank you, Erotica 1.

Saying you won't vote for Erotica 1 to be CSM because he scams people in the game shows an inability to separate RL from ingame. Erotic 1's playstyle has no bearing on whether or not he'd make a good CSM. But his love and knowledge of the game as well as his desire to support the sandbox and emergent gameplay does.

And that is the problem, the evidence presented was no different than any of the other evidence previously documented. In fact, it was the exact same evidence posted on these forums, just read by someone instead of having people read it themselves. So tell me then, how my asking for the promised proof was based in ignorance and an unwillingness to hear the full story? Should I listen to the recordings backward? Do I need to listen to them on a Tuesday, when the moon is full while dancing over a virgin? If that is the case then I must implore you once more to give me the evidence, as it is not a Tuesday, the moon is not full, and I am sorely lacking a virgin. I have read the original thread. I have read the minerbumping articles. I have listened to the "press conference" multiple times now, and I still cannot find the evidence, or this full story, that you speak of. I do not mind you calling me a troll, and I do not doubt that yourself, Erotica 1 and probably many other friends of yours truly believe I am an alt of Heavy Rayne. That is fine, as it still does not change the fact that all I am asking for is the evidence that you say was provided. I cannot bring myself to listen to that "press conference" again. One time was enough, but I gave it two more tries in an attempt to understand where the full story was hiding. Where the "new evidence" that Erotica 1 said had come to light was. Is this truly such a difficult question to answer? Is it so much to ask that you provide what was promised?

And furthermore, on the argument of Erotica 1 running for the CSM: I am glad you have found your niche in New Eden. Erotica 1's scams give you reason to log in, and that is wonderful for you. However, for those of us that don't receive any of the ISK or assets taken from the "bonus room" victims, her "emergent gameplay" is quite meaningless. Now Erotica 1 and his friends, including you, have stated multiple times that he would be a good choice for all of New Eden. He has said he would fairly represent all player types, that he has no bias towards one kind of player. And yet all of his supporters, including yourself, are heavily biased toward Erotica 1's style of play. How will he reconcile his statements of being an individual that believes all playstyles are valid with the fact that all, or nearly all, of his supporters subscribe to a single playstyle and express views that other playstyles are invalid. Will he do as he has said, and represent all players equally, or is that just rhetoric in an attempt to gain support? If it is not rhetoric, how will he appease his core supporters without angering the others, and vice versa?

Erotica adds to the laugh track that plays behind Eve. There is no other redeeming quality that makes him worthy of office.

The fact that the only response you have to any question as to how Erotica 1 might actually improve EvE Online is to call me a troll isn't entertaining to me at all. It's quite sad actually. I heard so many great stories of the intelligent people that play this game, how they come up with ingenious methods to scam people, to cheat and steal, to infiltrate and tear down empires. And yet the most common thing people come up with is, "YOU A TROLL!!!!! TROLOLOLOL!" Bao Xi just asked me to engage in a robust debate with him and the reponse is that I'm a troll? Come now child, try to keep up.

I understand some will feel this way. I hope after you listen to the full recording and participate in other events, I can change your mind. If not, I understand why. However, I'd like you to open your mind to the possibility of what I propose.


Oh, and obviously...


X

You're right. I should be a real individualist and AFK-mine asteroids alone for hours at a time, instead of hopping into TS with my friends and having a blast with some of the most down to earth people in the game.

But alas, I guess I am "sheeple". Isn't that what Alex Jones calls everybody that voted for Obama? That's kind of a funny coincidence, considering Erotica 1 is widely regarded as Space Obama.

Let me make this clear.

This is a thread judging pros and cons of someone being CSM.

This is not a thread about the Heavy Rayne incident.

Period.

If you would prefer to derail MY thread with your drivel...

I will report you.

'Mmkay? Thanks.

There are other threads dedicated to those issues.

Please post there.

X, unless Psychotic Monk runs again or James 315 runs or something like that. Even then you will be high on my list.

I would of course also have an alt vote. Double the fun!

Known Scammer for csm? No thanks.