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cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
325
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Posted - 2013.11.12 15:36:00 -
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It has been made so clear that CCP has an antagonistic relationship with the rest of us.
Look I get that you are a business, and that you have to pay staff and run your business..... still, there must be a better way to extract and "take our money".
Eve is so lacking in content that people actually followed you into nullsec! Says something at least to me about the game. People are bored and they will follow you into the void just to have a little fun. Nullsec is bored, highsec is bored. Why not serve them up on a platter to one another and see what happens? Yeah good call, rob Peter to pay Paul.
Still if you need to extract money from the player base, why not take a look at how some other people are doing it. Star Citizen just passed the 27 million mark. Maybe you can learn something from them and not troll the very people who pay to play a 10 year old game.
Clock is ticking and legacy software has a tendency to collect dust. |

Seraph Essael
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
180
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Posted - 2013.11.12 15:40:00 -
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Oh come one, now you're not even trying to hide the fact this is a SC thread... Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person." |

Charlie Firpol
Noob Mercs Monkeys with Guns.
32
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Posted - 2013.11.12 15:40:00 -
[3] - Quote
Why dont you make some content yourself? Isn-¦t that how its supposed to be in a sandbox? Or is trolling the forums content for you? In that case, good work man! |

Seraph Essael
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
180
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Posted - 2013.11.12 15:41:00 -
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Charlie Firpol wrote:Why dont you make some content yourself? Isn-¦t that how its supposed to be in a sandbox? Or is trolling the forums content for you? In that case, good work man!
But... But... That would be too much like hard work??? Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person." |

Violet Crumble
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2013.11.12 15:41:00 -
[5] - Quote
This thread really deserves a "can I have your stuff".
If that's what you think of Eve, then best to just leave.
I may be a girl but be careful, I bite. |

Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
562
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Posted - 2013.11.12 15:43:00 -
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I would ask for the stuff, but I think Violet beat me to it :/ |

Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
105
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Posted - 2013.11.12 15:43:00 -
[7] - Quote
Star Citizen has provided zero actual game to their users at this point. You can look at spaceships in a base, as far as I can tell.
So, should we just all sit in base staring at ships and get rid of the space part of EVE? Is that what you are actually suggesting here/ |

SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
33
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Posted - 2013.11.12 15:44:00 -
[8] - Quote
Wake me up when Star Citizen produces something other than cinematic trailers and blog posts about their latest crowd-funding milestone. |

cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
325
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Posted - 2013.11.12 15:47:00 -
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Charlie Firpol wrote:Why dont you make some content yourself? Isn-¦t that how its supposed to be in a sandbox? Or is trolling the forums content for you? In that case, good work man!
Pay me and I will gladly create content for you. I don't work for free bro. |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
3316
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Posted - 2013.11.12 15:49:00 -
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cyndrogen wrote:It has been made so clear that CCP has an antagonistic relationship with the rest of us.
Where some see antagonistic, others see the freedom to create emergent game play.
Guess which one is the more successful player?
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |

Charlie Firpol
Noob Mercs Monkeys with Guns.
32
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Posted - 2013.11.12 15:50:00 -
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cyndrogen wrote:Charlie Firpol wrote:Why dont you make some content yourself? Isn-¦t that how its supposed to be in a sandbox? Or is trolling the forums content for you? In that case, good work man! Pay me and I will gladly create content for you. I don't work for free bro.
I-¦ve got enough content in my little niche in EVE for the next months. I dont expect you to make content for me but for yourself. If you-¦re successful you will pay yourself with "fun". You know, that crazy stuff that makes us do things in our free time. |

Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
562
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Posted - 2013.11.12 15:50:00 -
[12] - Quote
cyndrogen wrote:Charlie Firpol wrote:Why dont you make some content yourself? Isn-¦t that how its supposed to be in a sandbox? Or is trolling the forums content for you? In that case, good work man! Pay me and I will gladly create content for you. I don't work for free bro.
"Creating my own content in a sandbox is hard work, why didnt they put slides and swings in here for me?" |

Xinivrae
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
684
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Posted - 2013.11.12 15:53:00 -
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Please feel free to contract your stuff to me at any time you feel like leaving. I'll make sure to give it away to all the adorable newbies. |

Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
105
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Posted - 2013.11.12 15:56:00 -
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Xinivrae wrote:Please feel free to contract your stuff to me at any time you feel like leaving. I'll make sure to give it away to all the adorable newbies. 
I'm an adorable newbie!
I don't want your stuff though. If I don't earn things myself they become worthless, and then the game becomes worthless to me. |

Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
1950
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Posted - 2013.11.12 16:01:00 -
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cyndrogen wrote: still, there must be a better way to extract and "take our money".
Until CCP sets up direct deposit for my paycheck, the credit card seems to be working fine. Point Blank Alliance [DAKKA] is currently recruiting corporations to join in our lowsec piracy operations. For more information, please add the in game channel 'weflyrifters' or speak to a DAKKA member today. |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
3485
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Posted - 2013.11.12 16:03:00 -
[16] - Quote
Next thread: CCP and Asia. |

dexington
Dexington Corporation
881
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Posted - 2013.11.12 16:09:00 -
[17] - Quote
cyndrogen wrote: "take our money"
wow you most be really bad at this game if you can't even plex your account with isk I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous. |

cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
325
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Posted - 2013.11.12 16:13:00 -
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dexington wrote:cyndrogen wrote: "take our money" wow you most be really bad at this game if you can't even plex your account with isk
I know right? |

cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
325
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Posted - 2013.11.12 16:14:00 -
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Jake Warbird wrote:Next thread: CCP and Asia. ?
What did I miss? |

Lipbite
Express Hauler
1206
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Posted - 2013.11.12 16:17:00 -
[20] - Quote
If you want content - there is X-Rebirth release in 3 days.
cyndrogen wrote:Jake Warbird wrote:Next thread: CCP and Asia. ? What did I miss? You've capitalized "us" in title (result: country). |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
4702
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Posted - 2013.11.12 16:20:00 -
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0/10
No originality, no creativity, and no subtlety.
Please biomass and start a new forum troll.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |

illirdor
Justified Chaos
74
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Posted - 2013.11.12 16:21:00 -
[22] - Quote
Why is it always about the US ?? why not europe? i think we are just as important as the big bad US...
Soooo this is my sig....-á |

Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
4484
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Posted - 2013.11.12 16:26:00 -
[23] - Quote
dexington wrote:cyndrogen wrote: "take our money" wow you most be really bad at this game if you can't even plex your account with isk Wow, you must be really poor if you can't even pay your account with real money.
See what i did there? Probably not. |

Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1899
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Posted - 2013.11.12 16:31:00 -
[24] - Quote
I came in late. Can somebody fill me in on what we're griping about today? |

Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
105
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Posted - 2013.11.12 16:33:00 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:I came in late. Can somebody fill me in on what we're griping about today?
Everything. |

RAW23
490
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Posted - 2013.11.12 16:40:00 -
[26] - Quote
Jythier Smith wrote:Star Citizen has provided zero actual game to their users at this point. You can look at spaceships in a base, as far as I can tell.
So, should we just all sit in base staring at ships and get rid of the space part of EVE? Is that what you are actually suggesting here/
Your point is fair but ship spinning is a pretty integral part of eve. Remember the outrage when they tried to take it out? There are two types of EVE player:
those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not. |

Xearal
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
731
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Posted - 2013.11.12 16:47:00 -
[27] - Quote
Right now, all that is SC is just some shiny pictures and a lot of pre-sales of ingame stuff in a game that hasn't even been released yet.
To me, the whole SC crowdfunding thing looks far more like some kind of Ponzi scheme than anything else...
|

cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
325
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Posted - 2013.11.12 16:48:00 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:I came in late. Can somebody fill me in on what we're griping about today?
Content. |

cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
325
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Posted - 2013.11.12 16:53:00 -
[29] - Quote
Xearal wrote:Right now, all that is SC is just some shiny pictures and a lot of pre-sales of ingame stuff in a game that hasn't even been released yet.
To me, the whole SC crowdfunding thing looks far more like some kind of Ponzi scheme than anything else...
Rejoice! Star Citizen has no content either, you don't have to worry about that game at all. After all it's just a ponzi scheme anyway.
|

Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
152
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Posted - 2013.11.12 16:59:00 -
[30] - Quote
MURICA!!! Oderint Dum Metuant |

Alt Two
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
76
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Posted - 2013.11.12 17:00:00 -
[31] - Quote
dexington wrote:cyndrogen wrote: "take our money" wow you most be really bad at this game if you can't even plex your account with isk Wow, you must be really ignorant if you can't even understand that someone still has to pay for that PLEX with real money.
Anyways, the problem with CCP isn't that they aren't creating content. It's that they are creating content for a select few favorites. |

Maldiro Selkurk
CHEMO IMMUNO RESISTANT VIRUS type X
94
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Posted - 2013.11.12 17:11:00 -
[32] - Quote
SC is a pipe-dream until it goes live at best.
At worst SC is a scam. Yawn,-á I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really. |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3309
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Posted - 2013.11.12 17:17:00 -
[33] - Quote
cyndrogen wrote:It has been made so clear that CCP has an antagonistic relationship with the rest of us.
Look I get that you are a business, and that you have to pay staff and run your business..... still, there must be a better way to extract and "take our money".
Eve is so lacking in content that people actually followed you into nullsec! Says something at least to me about the game. People are bored and they will follow you into the void just to have a little fun. Nullsec is bored, highsec is bored. Why not serve them up on a platter to one another and see what happens? Yeah good call, rob Peter to pay Paul.
Still if you need to extract money from the player base, why not take a look at how some other people are doing it. Star Citizen just passed the 27 million mark. Maybe you can learn something from them and not troll the very people who pay to play a 10 year old game.
Clock is ticking and legacy software has a tendency to collect dust.
What I find amazing is that people like this try to use the ominous specter of an upcoming game as leverage against CCP to get them to change an already successful game into something that is likely to fail like most MMOs do. It's pitiful and dishonest. If SC is gonna be so awesome, why do you people care? Why not just go play SC when it's out and leave us to our dying game lol.
So many games were supposed to kill EVE, and EVE is still here. You'd think that would teach people something, but it never does.
|

Chandaris
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
480
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Posted - 2013.11.12 17:18:00 -
[34] - Quote
SC: a 27 million dollar CQ with a a door that doesn't open, and no undock button.
Game is vaporware until they actually produce something worth playing, and not a moment before that. Until the full persistant mode universe is unveiled and we can log into it, comparisons to EVE online are pretty much pointless. |

Ghost Phius
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2013.11.12 17:18:00 -
[35] - Quote
I do agree that CCP has trolled the players before looking at past history T20 etc.. and looking at the most recent events, it appears clear that they plan to continue this practice. |

KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1044
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Posted - 2013.11.12 17:24:00 -
[36] - Quote
Decent troll for a beginner.
I will give you a 5/10 for effort. BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |

Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
4484
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Posted - 2013.11.12 17:27:00 -
[37] - Quote
I'm still wondering if it was ldgitimate content creation to turn CCP into capsuleers enemy number one, up to the point that there are enough people united to blackmail them or something.
All ingame, though. That's what i call meta gaming. ^_^ |

Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
105
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Posted - 2013.11.12 17:32:00 -
[38] - Quote
I hope it is great. I really do. More space sims is awesome. But it will have to copy half of EVE to get me to play it. |

Tollen Gallen
Xionworld
2728
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Posted - 2013.11.12 18:12:00 -
[39] - Quote
I like Waffles. Zimmy Zeta -I f*cking love martinis.the original ones, with gin, not that vodka martini crap. |

Carmen Electra
The Scope Gallente Federation
87
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Posted - 2013.11.12 18:14:00 -
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Tollen Gallen wrote:I like Waffles.
So you like waffles AND battleships? If I get you for secret santa, it's going to have to be a battleship unless CCP introduces waffles in Rubicon.
|

Tollen Gallen
Xionworld
2728
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Posted - 2013.11.12 18:17:00 -
[41] - Quote
Carmen Electra wrote:Tollen Gallen wrote:I like Waffles. So you like waffles AND battleships? If I get you for secret santa, it's going to have to be a battleship unless CCP introduces waffles in Rubicon.
I like Bacon. Zimmy Zeta -I f*cking love martinis.the original ones, with gin, not that vodka martini crap. |

Hendrick Tallardar
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
101
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Posted - 2013.11.12 18:20:00 -
[42] - Quote
Your idea to get CCP to add more "content" is for them to copy CIG's model of "give us money and we'll promise more things in our non-existant game" is probably the worst thing I've ever read from a backseat-game developer.
To put this in perspective, I've actively read the Star Citizen forums, you're worst than them. That's how bad you are. LeeSsang. Never Forget. |

Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
4484
|
Posted - 2013.11.12 19:29:00 -
[43] - Quote
Bet he likes Blue Waffles.
I like Tollen Gallen. |

cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
325
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Posted - 2013.11.12 19:39:00 -
[44] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote:cyndrogen wrote:It has been made so clear that CCP has an antagonistic relationship with the rest of us.
Look I get that you are a business, and that you have to pay staff and run your business..... still, there must be a better way to extract and "take our money".
Eve is so lacking in content that people actually followed you into nullsec! Says something at least to me about the game. People are bored and they will follow you into the void just to have a little fun. Nullsec is bored, highsec is bored. Why not serve them up on a platter to one another and see what happens? Yeah good call, rob Peter to pay Paul.
Still if you need to extract money from the player base, why not take a look at how some other people are doing it. Star Citizen just passed the 27 million mark. Maybe you can learn something from them and not troll the very people who pay to play a 10 year old game.
Clock is ticking and legacy software has a tendency to collect dust. What I find amazing is that people like this try to use the ominous specter of an upcoming game as leverage against CCP to get them to change an already successful game into something that is likely to fail like most MMOs do. It's pitiful and dishonest. If SC is gonna be so awesome, why do you people care? Why not just go play SC when it's out and leave us to our dying game lol. So many games were supposed to kill EVE, and EVE is still here. You'd think that would teach people something, but it never does.
Is this your default response? Who said anything about eve dying? I said the relationship between the player base, specifically those who are just starting eve and CCP is antagonistic. You have to put in two months of quarters to get to the good content. You get this idea right? Eve is not dying, it has a barrier to entry of two months. |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
8548
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Posted - 2013.11.12 19:42:00 -
[45] - Quote
cyndrogen wrote: Is this your default response? Who said anything about eve dying? I said the relationship between the player base, specifically those who are just starting eve and CCP is antagonistic. You have to put in two months of quarters to get to the good content. You get this idea right? Eve is not dying, it has a barrier to entry of two months.
We have people tackling dreads in 30 min. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1548
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Posted - 2013.11.12 19:50:00 -
[46] - Quote
Sometimes I shake my head in despair at some of the things CCP do.
Sometimes I shake my head in despair at some of the things the players do.
Mostly I shake my head in despair at the things I do.
But, overall I really enjoy playing Eve.
For those of you who think Eve is so bad...jeez, stop whining and just quit ! This is not a signature. |

cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
325
|
Posted - 2013.11.12 20:00:00 -
[47] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:cyndrogen wrote: Is this your default response? Who said anything about eve dying? I said the relationship between the player base, specifically those who are just starting eve and CCP is antagonistic. You have to put in two months of quarters to get to the good content. You get this idea right? Eve is not dying, it has a barrier to entry of two months.
We have people tackling dreads in 30 min.
If it wasn't for the goons what would those players be doing? I'm sure all new players get to join goons as soon as they log in em I right? |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
7229
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:01:00 -
[48] - Quote
Why do I have a feeling that as soon as SC comes out...these people who claim SC as their savior wont be leaving Eve?
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Alpheias
Euphoria Released Triumvirate.
2948
|
Posted - 2013.11.12 20:03:00 -
[49] - Quote
cyndrogen wrote:
Is this your default response? Who said anything about eve dying? I said the relationship between the player base, specifically those who are just starting eve and CCP is antagonistic. You have to put in two months of quarters to get to the good content. You get this idea right? Eve is not dying, it has a barrier to entry of two months.
That can be said about any game that require the players to invest time to get somewhere. As far as I know, you have to work your butt off in WoW and every other bloody theme park MMO out there before you can even touch the good stuff and how is that fair if that is the only thing you want to do?
To add insult to injury, the games focus more on what your character is wearing rather than your knowledge and experience as a player which is also really unfair because I learn really fast but I don't have the ridiculous amount of time needed to acquire this or that for my character to even compete. Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on. |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
8548
|
Posted - 2013.11.12 20:03:00 -
[50] - Quote
cyndrogen wrote:baltec1 wrote:cyndrogen wrote: Is this your default response? Who said anything about eve dying? I said the relationship between the player base, specifically those who are just starting eve and CCP is antagonistic. You have to put in two months of quarters to get to the good content. You get this idea right? Eve is not dying, it has a barrier to entry of two months.
We have people tackling dreads in 30 min. If it wasn't for the goons what would those players be doing? I'm sure all new players get to join goons as soon as they log in em I right?
We aren't the only ones who take on new players. What you said was just flat out wrong.
Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

To Be Me
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
38
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:03:00 -
[51] - Quote
I thought this thread was about united states
Disapoint |

Ghost Phius
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
115
|
Posted - 2013.11.12 20:03:00 -
[52] - Quote
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Why do I have a feeling that as soon as SC comes out...these people who claim SC as their savior wont be leaving Eve?
Because they are really really really different types of games that offer really really really different gaming experiences from the other?
Nah say it ain't so... |

cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
325
|
Posted - 2013.11.12 20:04:00 -
[53] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Sometimes I shake my head in despair at some of the things CCP do.
Sometimes I shake my head in despair at some of the things the players do.
Mostly I shake my head in despair at the things I do.
But, overall I really enjoy playing Eve.
For those of you who think Eve is so bad...jeez, stop whining and just quit !
I realize for some of you English may be a second language so let me repeat what I actually said.
I said that CCP has an antagonistic relationship with the user base. I also said it lacks content. I never said eve is a bad game ok? Do you get the difference? I like eve, I play eve but I don't have to like everything CCP does you dumb twit. |

cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
325
|
Posted - 2013.11.12 20:10:00 -
[54] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:cyndrogen wrote:baltec1 wrote:cyndrogen wrote: Is this your default response? Who said anything about eve dying? I said the relationship between the player base, specifically those who are just starting eve and CCP is antagonistic. You have to put in two months of quarters to get to the good content. You get this idea right? Eve is not dying, it has a barrier to entry of two months.
We have people tackling dreads in 30 min. If it wasn't for the goons what would those players be doing? I'm sure all new players get to join goons as soon as they log in em I right? We aren't the only ones who take on new players. What you said was just flat out wrong.
By saying you "take on new players" is that your way of saying we take them out with our guns and "fire ze missiles".
:) |

Alpheias
Euphoria Released Triumvirate.
2948
|
Posted - 2013.11.12 20:16:00 -
[55] - Quote
cyndrogen wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Sometimes I shake my head in despair at some of the things CCP do.
Sometimes I shake my head in despair at some of the things the players do.
Mostly I shake my head in despair at the things I do.
But, overall I really enjoy playing Eve.
For those of you who think Eve is so bad...jeez, stop whining and just quit ! I realize for some of you English may be a second language so let me repeat what I actually said. I said that CCP has an antagonistic relationship with the user base. I also said it lacks content. I never said eve is a bad game ok? Do you get the difference? I like eve, I play eve but I don't have to like everything CCP does you dumb twit.
Well, being someone with English as a second language. I know the difference between US and us, so why don't you?
When you say that EVE lacks content. What exactly are we talking about? Unicorns in space? Cow level? Zapp Brannigan?
You would have to be pretty ******* insane to absolutely love everything that CCP or any other company is doing, same can be said about organizations, elected individuals and so forth. Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on. |

Tollen Gallen
Xionworld
2728
|
Posted - 2013.11.12 20:23:00 -
[56] - Quote
Solstice Project wrote:Bet he likes Blue Waffles.
I like Tollen Gallen.
Your obsession whitt Blue Waffles is funnah.
I like Single Malt. Zimmy Zeta -I f*cking love martinis.the original ones, with gin, not that vodka martini crap. |

cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
325
|
Posted - 2013.11.12 20:26:00 -
[57] - Quote
Alpheias wrote:cyndrogen wrote:
Is this your default response? Who said anything about eve dying? I said the relationship between the player base, specifically those who are just starting eve and CCP is antagonistic. You have to put in two months of quarters to get to the good content. You get this idea right? Eve is not dying, it has a barrier to entry of two months.
That can be said about any game that require the players to invest time to get somewhere. As far as I know, you have to work your butt off in WoW and every other bloody theme park MMO out there before you can even touch the good stuff and how is that fair if that is the only thing you want to do? To add insult to injury, the games focus more on what your character is wearing rather than your knowledge and experience as a player which is also really unfair because I learn really fast but I don't have the ridiculous amount of time needed to acquire this or that for my character to even compete.
Have you played Dayz? |

Alpheias
Euphoria Released Triumvirate.
2948
|
Posted - 2013.11.12 20:27:00 -
[58] - Quote
cyndrogen wrote:Alpheias wrote:cyndrogen wrote:
Is this your default response? Who said anything about eve dying? I said the relationship between the player base, specifically those who are just starting eve and CCP is antagonistic. You have to put in two months of quarters to get to the good content. You get this idea right? Eve is not dying, it has a barrier to entry of two months.
That can be said about any game that require the players to invest time to get somewhere. As far as I know, you have to work your butt off in WoW and every other bloody theme park MMO out there before you can even touch the good stuff and how is that fair if that is the only thing you want to do? To add insult to injury, the games focus more on what your character is wearing rather than your knowledge and experience as a player which is also really unfair because I learn really fast but I don't have the ridiculous amount of time needed to acquire this or that for my character to even compete. Have you played Dayz?
I have not. I know what it is though. Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on. |

cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
325
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:30:00 -
[59] - Quote
Alpheias wrote:cyndrogen wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Sometimes I shake my head in despair at some of the things CCP do.
Sometimes I shake my head in despair at some of the things the players do.
Mostly I shake my head in despair at the things I do.
But, overall I really enjoy playing Eve.
For those of you who think Eve is so bad...jeez, stop whining and just quit ! I realize for some of you English may be a second language so let me repeat what I actually said. I said that CCP has an antagonistic relationship with the user base. I also said it lacks content. I never said eve is a bad game ok? Do you get the difference? I like eve, I play eve but I don't have to like everything CCP does you dumb twit. Well, being someone with English as a second language. I know the difference between US and us, so why don't you? When you say that EVE lacks content. What exactly are we talking about? Unicorns in space? Cow level? Zapp Brannigan? You would have to be pretty ******* insane to absolutely love everything that CCP or any other company is doing, same can be said about organizations, elected individuals and so forth.
Cause we are like #17 in education mmmkay? MURICA!
Yes thanks for acknowledging my point. What is your point?
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cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
325
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:31:00 -
[60] - Quote
Alpheias wrote:cyndrogen wrote:Alpheias wrote:cyndrogen wrote:
Is this your default response? Who said anything about eve dying? I said the relationship between the player base, specifically those who are just starting eve and CCP is antagonistic. You have to put in two months of quarters to get to the good content. You get this idea right? Eve is not dying, it has a barrier to entry of two months.
That can be said about any game that require the players to invest time to get somewhere. As far as I know, you have to work your butt off in WoW and every other bloody theme park MMO out there before you can even touch the good stuff and how is that fair if that is the only thing you want to do? To add insult to injury, the games focus more on what your character is wearing rather than your knowledge and experience as a player which is also really unfair because I learn really fast but I don't have the ridiculous amount of time needed to acquire this or that for my character to even compete. Have you played Dayz? I have not. I know what it is though.
Try it out, seriously. let me know what you think. |

Karen Avioras
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
48
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:32:00 -
[61] - Quote
cyndrogen wrote:Alpheias wrote:cyndrogen wrote:Alpheias wrote:cyndrogen wrote:
Is this your default response? Who said anything about eve dying? I said the relationship between the player base, specifically those who are just starting eve and CCP is antagonistic. You have to put in two months of quarters to get to the good content. You get this idea right? Eve is not dying, it has a barrier to entry of two months.
That can be said about any game that require the players to invest time to get somewhere. As far as I know, you have to work your butt off in WoW and every other bloody theme park MMO out there before you can even touch the good stuff and how is that fair if that is the only thing you want to do? To add insult to injury, the games focus more on what your character is wearing rather than your knowledge and experience as a player which is also really unfair because I learn really fast but I don't have the ridiculous amount of time needed to acquire this or that for my character to even compete. Have you played Dayz? I have not. I know what it is though. Try it out, seriously. let me know what you think.
It's fun but very buggy, try out 7 days to die. |

cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
325
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:35:00 -
[62] - Quote
Karen Avioras wrote: Try it out, seriously. let me know what you think.
It's fun but very buggy, try out 7 days to die.
Cool! thanks!
Has anyone tried Evochron Mercenary? |

Alpheias
Euphoria Released Triumvirate.
2946
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:39:00 -
[63] - Quote
cyndrogen wrote:Alpheias wrote:cyndrogen wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Sometimes I shake my head in despair at some of the things CCP do.
Sometimes I shake my head in despair at some of the things the players do.
Mostly I shake my head in despair at the things I do.
But, overall I really enjoy playing Eve.
For those of you who think Eve is so bad...jeez, stop whining and just quit ! I realize for some of you English may be a second language so let me repeat what I actually said. I said that CCP has an antagonistic relationship with the user base. I also said it lacks content. I never said eve is a bad game ok? Do you get the difference? I like eve, I play eve but I don't have to like everything CCP does you dumb twit. Well, being someone with English as a second language. I know the difference between US and us, so why don't you? When you say that EVE lacks content. What exactly are we talking about? Unicorns in space? Cow level? Zapp Brannigan? You would have to be pretty ******* insane to absolutely love everything that CCP or any other company is doing, same can be said about organizations, elected individuals and so forth. Cause we are like #17 in education mmmkay? MURICA! Yes thanks for acknowledging my point. What is your point?
Well, at least you spelled it correctly.
My point? None, but my reason would be to bring your stupidity into light. Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on. |

cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
325
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:41:00 -
[64] - Quote
Alpheias wrote:cyndrogen wrote:Alpheias wrote:cyndrogen wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Sometimes I shake my head in despair at some of the things CCP do.
Sometimes I shake my head in despair at some of the things the players do.
Mostly I shake my head in despair at the things I do.
But, overall I really enjoy playing Eve.
For those of you who think Eve is so bad...jeez, stop whining and just quit ! I realize for some of you English may be a second language so let me repeat what I actually said. I said that CCP has an antagonistic relationship with the user base. I also said it lacks content. I never said eve is a bad game ok? Do you get the difference? I like eve, I play eve but I don't have to like everything CCP does you dumb twit. Well, being someone with English as a second language. I know the difference between US and us, so why don't you? When you say that EVE lacks content. What exactly are we talking about? Unicorns in space? Cow level? Zapp Brannigan? You would have to be pretty ******* insane to absolutely love everything that CCP or any other company is doing, same can be said about organizations, elected individuals and so forth. Cause we are like #17 in education mmmkay? MURICA! Yes thanks for acknowledging my point. What is your point? Well, at least you spelled it correctly. My point? No, but my reason would be to bring your stupidity into light.
I know enough to know i don't know everything, unlike you. |

cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
325
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:47:00 -
[65] - Quote
illirdor wrote:Why is it always about the US ?? why not europe? i think we are just as important as the big bad US...
You are in the same timezone as CCP, unlike the rest of US. |

Alpheias
Euphoria Released Triumvirate.
2946
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:48:00 -
[66] - Quote
cyndrogen wrote:
I know enough to know i don't know everything, unlike you.
But then you know nothing either because if you know enough that you don't know everything then how can you possibly ever know? Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on. |

cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
325
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:51:00 -
[67] - Quote
Alpheias wrote:cyndrogen wrote:
I know enough to know i don't know everything, unlike you.
But then you know nothing either because if you know enough that you don't know everything then how can you possibly ever know?
I know right? |

Alpheias
Euphoria Released Triumvirate.
2946
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Posted - 2013.11.12 20:54:00 -
[68] - Quote
cyndrogen wrote:Alpheias wrote:cyndrogen wrote:
I know enough to know i don't know everything, unlike you.
But then you know nothing either because if you know enough that you don't know everything then how can you possibly ever know? I know right?
Then what is the purpose of this thread if you haven't got a clue what EVE needs? Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on. |

cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
325
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Posted - 2013.11.12 21:00:00 -
[69] - Quote
Alpheias wrote:cyndrogen wrote:Alpheias wrote:cyndrogen wrote:
I know enough to know i don't know everything, unlike you.
But then you know nothing either because if you know enough that you don't know everything then how can you possibly ever know? I know right? Then what is the purpose of this thread if you haven't got a clue what EVE needs?
Eve needs content.
Was that not clear enough?
It needs planets we can walk on, like Dust. It needs stations we can interact with others in, like a bar and cantina, exotic dancer nullsec stations, amarrian zoo, museum of eve, caldari ship foundry manufacturing station, where you can watch ships being constructed. just a few ideas to make it more like a real space place.
Watch a minmatar right of passage ceremony. Gladiatorial arena in Gallente station.... etc etc |

Alpheias
Euphoria Released Triumvirate.
2946
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Posted - 2013.11.12 21:03:00 -
[70] - Quote
cyndrogen wrote:Alpheias wrote:cyndrogen wrote:Alpheias wrote:cyndrogen wrote:
I know enough to know i don't know everything, unlike you.
But then you know nothing either because if you know enough that you don't know everything then how can you possibly ever know? I know right? Then what is the purpose of this thread if you haven't got a clue what EVE needs? Eve needs content. Was that not clear enough? It needs planets we can walk on, like Dust. It needs stations we can interact with others in, like a bar and cantina, exotic dancer nullsec stations, amarrian zoo, museum of eve, caldari ship foundry manufacturing station, where you can watch ships being constructed. just a few ideas to make it more like a real space place. Watch a minmatar right of passage ceremony. Gladiatorial arena in Gallente station.... etc etc
Why would you ever want EVE to be like Second Life? Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on. |

Sir Spottington
Merchants Trade Consortium The Last Chancers.
52
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Posted - 2013.11.12 21:23:00 -
[71] - Quote
cyndrogen wrote:Star Citizen just passed the 27 million mark. Maybe you can learn something from them
what like sell limited time ship again and again at stupid prices, while telling people they will only have the chance to buy them once?
or maybe their free to play model?
how about the optional pvp?
maybe the avatar game play, as incarna went so well
yeh that would go down well with this community..... |

Charlie Firpol
Noob Mercs Monkeys with Guns.
32
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Posted - 2013.11.12 21:24:00 -
[72] - Quote
cyndrogen wrote:baltec1 wrote:cyndrogen wrote: Is this your default response? Who said anything about eve dying? I said the relationship between the player base, specifically those who are just starting eve and CCP is antagonistic. You have to put in two months of quarters to get to the good content. You get this idea right? Eve is not dying, it has a barrier to entry of two months.
We have people tackling dreads in 30 min. If it wasn't for the goons what would those players be doing? I'm sure all new players get to join goons as soon as they log in em I right?
Join FW |

Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
105
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Posted - 2013.11.12 21:30:00 -
[73] - Quote
Walking in stations is not content. If I wanted an avatar chat room, I would go to an avatar chat room.
EVE is about spaceships and spaceship accessories. Stations are a spaceship accessory. You make money building spaceships, trading spaceship stuff on the market, and moving stuff around in spaceships. You fight in spaceships. Etc.
Everything is about spaceships.
You chat about spaceships.
Having a cantina to hang out in would ruin EVE, because it would become a chatroom that also had spaceships, OR it wouldn't be worth the dev time to make it. I can't even go to CQ because it slows down my system to a crawl. It's crummy.
I think they should focus on spaceships, or revamp the whole thing and have ground missions too where you actually have to do things. Half-assed chat rooms are not the answer. |

Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
4484
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Posted - 2013.11.12 23:15:00 -
[74] - Quote
Alpheias wrote:cyndrogen wrote:
I know enough to know i don't know everything, unlike you.
But then you know nothing either because if you know enough that you don't know everything then how can you possibly ever know? The importance of "knowing one knows nothing" has nothing to do with actual knowledge, but with the ability to self reflect.
Congratulations, you've learned something important today.
You're welcome. |

Eli Green
The Arrow Project
771
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Posted - 2013.11.12 23:22:00 -
[75] - Quote
What is this thread even about anymore? wumbo |

Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
4484
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Posted - 2013.11.12 23:24:00 -
[76] - Quote
I might add that people who can't properly express themselves will always be doomed to fail.
Not only do you have - at best - only partly an idea what "content" is, you ask for content, when all you want is "a life", or to be more precise: friends.
Quote:It needs planets we can walk on, like Dust. It needs stations we can interact with others in, like a bar and cantina, exotic dancer nullsec stations, amarrian zoo, museum of eve, caldari ship foundry manufacturing station, where you can watch ships being constructed. just a few ideas to make it more like a real space place.
Watch a minmatar right of passage ceremony. Gladiatorial arena in Gallente station.... etc etc What you want isn't content. There's tons of content out there in EvE and it actually fits the definition.
You say you want "content", but that's bull.
What you want is a social environment you can escape into, to enjoy your time with all the friends you don't actually have in real life.
You are a clueless moron and a slave.
You're welcome. |

Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
4484
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Posted - 2013.11.12 23:25:00 -
[77] - Quote
Eli Green wrote:What is this thread even about anymore? bashing the OP. |

cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
325
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Posted - 2013.11.13 00:33:00 -
[78] - Quote
Solstice Project wrote:Eli Green wrote:What is this thread even about anymore? bashing the OP.
No it's about being on the forums instead of playing eve due to lack of content. |

cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
329
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Posted - 2013.11.13 09:15:00 -
[79] - Quote
Solstice Project wrote:I might add that people who can't properly express themselves will always be doomed to fail. Not only do you have - at best - only partly an idea what "content" is, you ask for content, when all you want is "a life", or to be more precise: friends. Quote:It needs planets we can walk on, like Dust. It needs stations we can interact with others in, like a bar and cantina, exotic dancer nullsec stations, amarrian zoo, museum of eve, caldari ship foundry manufacturing station, where you can watch ships being constructed. just a few ideas to make it more like a real space place.
Watch a minmatar right of passage ceremony. Gladiatorial arena in Gallente station.... etc etc What you want isn't content. There's tons of content out there in EvE and it actually fits the definition. You say you want "content", but that's bull. What you want is a social environment you can escape into, to enjoy your time with all the friends you don't actually have in real life. You are a clueless moron and a slave. You're welcome.
Ahh more drivel from a man with screws in his brain. You must be minmatard? |

Tuggboat
Oneida Inc.
45
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Posted - 2013.11.13 09:34:00 -
[80] - Quote
If this game was about creating content they would have given us content creation and management tools. They would have given us flowcharting and project management, modeling, financial and conceptional, story boards and templates. Instead what they've given us is stuff like the corp interface that because of its security holes presents an Ultra narrow configuration of projects (corporations) and skill tree managemnet. Instead not only do we have to create our own content, we have to create our own tools to make the tools to make the content.
Half-assed CMS if you ask me. Like HTML without CSS and javascrpt gets you banned. |

Diamond Zerg
The Scope Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.11.13 09:39:00 -
[81] - Quote
Xinivrae wrote:Please feel free to contract your stuff to me at any time you feel like leaving. I'll make sure to give it away to all the adorable newbies. 
Your avatar's skin is so pretty. |

Remiel Pollard
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
1920
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Posted - 2013.11.13 10:04:00 -
[82] - Quote
cyndrogen wrote:It has been made so clear that CCP has an antagonistic relationship with the rest of us.
Pot, meet kettle. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
1345
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Posted - 2013.11.13 10:25:00 -
[83] - Quote
Jake Warbird wrote:Next thread: CCP and Asia.
haha, yeah.
Also, posting in a stealth "EVE is dying" thread.
Content ? lol, OP. Create your own content and be content.
Personnel Division Director - Bene Gesserit Chapterhouse CEO Sanctuary Pact Alliance --áSanctuary Pact |

Baali Tekitsu
B0SSAURA xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
386
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Posted - 2013.11.13 10:35:00 -
[84] - Quote
Came in for some USA bashing or to hear about some massacre in http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/CCP-US
left disappointed. RATE LIKE SUBSCRIBE |

Bloody Slave
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
42
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Posted - 2013.11.13 11:34:00 -
[85] - Quote
I miss CCP Oveur. 
It's a shame that most of the folks here don't even know who I'm talking about.
Well, for the old folks that remember, think about what he would say in a thread like this. Hahaha As far I know, he is doing some stuff in Defiance.
I'm a bit concerned about how EVE will develop in the 2nd decade though, the things are becoming easier each time, maybe we can put our 3 yo kids to play it at some point. And thinking that it took me 3 weeks, back at 2006, to be able to buy my 1st frigate and get rid of the rook ship... If your balls are hurt and bleeding don't sit in a pool full of piranhas (note to myself: don't complain in GD) |

Richard Ramlrez
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
37
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Posted - 2013.11.13 12:15:00 -
[86] - Quote
Star Citizen is going to break so many fanboys hearts... |

Cruen Dekar
Tax Protestants
0
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Posted - 2013.11.13 12:51:00 -
[87] - Quote
OP, i think it's just you that's bored. if you're serious about the statements you've made, just quit eve.
i, for one, am not bored. i've been playing off and on for several years and at this point, there is so much content i haven't tried, it will take me several more months just to do the two or three things i have lined up. after that, i have an idea of the direction i want this character to head. i literally see several more years of content for my character currently, and during that time, CCP will add more to the game.
so, the whole "there's no content" statement just doesn't hold water. this is a sandbox - go build something, have it torn down and build something else. maybe this just isn't your type of game? there's certainly nothing wrong with that. duct tape-á-áGÇö n-á-á :a type of strong waterproof adhesive silver-coloured cloth tape used for repairs by plumbers, electricians and minmatar pilots.
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