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Isis Dea	Posted - 2006.02.15 06:17:00 - [1] This is another one of those "what not to do" tutorials for those of you dumb enough to think of something like our bored corporation did. First off, if you band up in a gang of 16 people and all leap into shuttles, grab about 100 units of tritanium and go out to a core Empire trading system and then upon a freighter warping to a gate, you ram the freighter from all sides and drop cans around it thus making it unable to really go anywhere, it's basicly stuck. This works in 0.0 or lowsec systems if you are lucky to spot a bloody freighter in space and you want to keep it from getting to a gate or warping off until you get a party able to wreck the freighter. HOWEVER, performing this act in highsec space or basicly in an empire prime trade route, it files into the category of "gate blocking", which, you are not allowed to do. Our gang figured that out the hard way (which is partly why I'm posting this here). It was lovely Valentine's Day, the sweet 14th of Febuary when our gang of bored nerds (me included) were all around Empire space trying to think of something to do. One of us, suggests we perform a "Shuttle Op". This, being new, we're all up for the idea. It involves messing with people (primarily macrominers or afk miners) in shuttles. Well, we quickly get bored of that. As we approuch the next gate, one of us spots a Freighter approuching the gate... It takes forever to get to the gate and jump out, mainly with all it's low agility. .....Evil ideas come to mind. So then, we wonder, as we watch a ship get caught up on a cargo can that maybe... A freighter... We all go and grab 100 units of tritanium and put it in our holds, we warp all to the gate in all our shuttles and wait. A freighter pops up. We engage, we all ram him but really just go "boink!" on it's hull, we can't seem to knock it about. 2nd step, we deployed cargo cans around it and continued to ram it as it tried to move around it. We open a private channel and ask for like... 0.10isk-1,000,000isk to support the Girl Scout "Nohauling" Act of 2006. Since the things were worth much more, costed much more, we weren't concered of the isk, we more were just laughing left and right for countless hours doing this. We did this to about 3 other freighters before we noticed one thing. It was about three hours later that our gang lead suddently disappeared from sight. He claimed he was slightly lagged and he claimed he found himself nearlly 20 jumps from where we were just then. A sudden warp to another system? Another one of us disappears... 2 of us disappear... 3... Only one thing could have caused such an event. I felt the sky above me thunder and as if God himself spoke the words, it dawned on us. I began yelling in local, "GM ATTACK!!! AAAAAUuuuuuugghhh!!! Run! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!! THE GMs GOT US ALL, Nooooooo!!!!" By now, we all split, we all run but there is no hope... GM Swoosh was kind enough to let us know too. GM Sw00sh (on the local channel): "Don't run. I'll move you." Noooooooooooo.....POP I appear in Pator, like, 23 jumps away. I got a nice little mail too from the event from Sw00sh stating that what we were doing was violating the rules and was considered "gate blocking". We didn't know this, we didn't expect any of that to happen, let alone interaction with a GM in local... Amazing. I was tempted to contact Sw00sh for giggles and laughs but... We weren't exactly sure if we were going to be banned for eternity or so from the event. So please note, despite this story and the thought of petitons stating pirating shuttles in highsec space vs. freighters and winning is hilarious, the concept is wrong and noted by the other GMs for future use. So, future people performing it may not get off as easy as we did. However... Hopefully we were dumb enough to be the first ones to try it, maybe put a new entry in the rulebook. We got lots of pictures off it too and even a few Fraps clips. And it is a hilarious story... ___ _"Akkubai Angels" - Book 1 of My EVE Novel_
MercedesBenz	Posted - 2006.02.15 07:15:00 - [2] Great Read, thanks for the info.
Isis Dea	Posted - 2006.02.15 07:22:00 - [3] I'm tempted to post the fraps videos, the screenshots, but I still need to make sure we're safely off the hook from that, as that my alliance lead (who was our gang lead) is ok with it. ___ _"Akkubai Angels" - Book 1 of My EVE Novel_
Amarr Citizen 3213	Posted - 2006.02.15 07:29:00 - [4] If you are that bored with the game, go out and get a LIFE !
vanBuskirk	Posted - 2006.02.15 07:48:00 - [5] Lucky not to have been deposited at the far end of 0.0 in your shuttle. This sort of pointless idiotic griefing is what has ruined many MMORPGs. The GM did right; in fact IMHO it wasn't harsh enough. ---------------------------------------------- "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." ----------------------------------------------
Kitty O'Shay	Posted - 2006.02.15 08:19:00 - [6] Seems like if you cleaned up your cans after each freighter, and then did it again to the next one, it would be a valid tactic to ransom freighters in empire. But if you just left a wall of cans out there, yeah, that would be a problem. Is it just me or do frieghters have a big "COME MESS WITH ME" sign painted on them? But realistically, you probably did this in a hub system, and anything goes to prevent lag, I guess. -- My drones are about as smart as a smartbomb.
MercedesBenz	Posted - 2006.02.15 08:34:00 - [7] Originally by: Isis Dea I'm tempted to post the fraps videos, the screenshots, but I still need to make sure we're safely off the hook from that, as that my alliance lead (who was our gang lead) is ok with it. please post, or send me a linky via evemail, thanks!
Bl4zer	Posted - 2006.02.15 08:46:00 - [8] Originally by: Isis Dea were just laughing left and right for countless hours doing this. Either you have a high boredom threshold or you are not very good at counting. This would entertain me for, like, milliseconds. Save the Ubar asteroids
Ank Myrandor	Posted - 2006.02.15 10:24:00 - [9] Edited by: Ank Myrandor on 15/02/2006 10:24:10 Great story :P but i'm having a question now >.< would this tactic be legal if you were in war with the targets corp ? ( should work better then warpscrambling :P ) True Amarrians are Dutch !! I'm sure they are, but your signature image is oversize, maximum filesize is 24 kbytes - Imaran
Yakti	Posted - 2006.02.15 12:38:00 - [10] This is an exploit, same as letting your drones orbit to prevent people from warping, etc etc... Fun to see you got OMFGBBQGMPWNED!!11 :)
Jarek Naumen	Posted - 2006.02.15 12:48:00 - [11] HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Best..Read...Ever.
K'reemy G'udness	Posted - 2006.02.15 15:30:00 - [12] Nice story, sounds pretty funny! Please post the fraps vids, I gotta see this. I don't really understand why this is a violation that required GMs, however. It's just players having a bit of fun with the game mechanics. If it had been me in that frieghter, I think I would have been laughing so hard I would have paid you just for the comedy value...
Turiel Demon	Posted - 2006.02.15 16:52:00 - [13] hehe, nice to see the difference between posters, not too hard to identify the occasional freighter pilot Anyways, sounds funny, and the punihment seems about right... don't do it again, but get those vids up ---- nothing to see here, move along nicely now, is that a pink dread out there. aaww you just missed it -eris It's not an Eidolon with 5 Basic Miner's on it, that's for certain.(FF04) ~kieron No love for me? :'( - Wrangler If you can't beat Eris, join her, hmmm that sounded so much better in my head - Cortes Cuddles Eeyore. He's soooo cute and doesn't play EVE. perfect -eris Eve-online Forum mods arn't Pokemon, you don't need to collect them all - Ductoris Here's my autograph - now do I get some groupie lub? Jacques' Don't be greedy :P -Capsicum
Alexis DeTocqueville	Posted - 2006.02.15 17:24:00 - [14] Originally by: vanBuskirk Lucky not to have been deposited at the far end of 0.0 in your shuttle. This sort of pointless idiotic griefing is what has ruined many MMORPGs. The GM did right; in fact IMHO it wasn't harsh enough. This can't be stressed enough. All you douchebags do is vindicate the high-sec population in wanting more stringent protections.
Emmerich Steiner	Posted - 2006.02.15 17:45:00 - [15] That can spamming incedent was somewhat amusing, but it's been done before.. What it really amounts to is making it a pain in the ass for certain high sec highway pilots.. Which I guess was your goal. Which is fine by me, I could care less about that. What kind of sucks about it though, is that GM Swoosh had to go and play space janitor for a bit, when he/she could of been doing something more important. I think to only thing worse than this are people who petition spam (same people who act like internet lawyers :D) Besides there are much more entertaining things to do, if you are really that bored, grab some cheap ships and go terrorize miners in lowsec. My domi is pretty ugly It's tech II drones do the deed. And that thorax ramming me fits oh so snugly. I surely hope this poem made your ears bleed.
Ja'kar	Posted - 2006.02.15 17:57:00 - [16] please post, or send me a linky via evemail, thanks me2 please!!! was a very good read and funny- hope you post more! ow and to the "get a life poster" - we all playing a game none of this is real- so we all in effect should get a life! but I am happy with my life and happy 4 ppl to play eve as they wish! so sod off u boring fart! later
Flavia Clio	Posted - 2006.02.15 18:13:00 - [17] Personally I don't see a problem with shaking down a freighter for ISK. They don't like it then they can use instas, or is that an exploit also? Anybody hear of escorts? Most folks with a freighter can afford friends. Pull the cans and rumble if you don't freaking like it. Seems like anything you do in 0.5 and up is an exploit or grief if it someone doesn't like it. You can suicide gank people but not stop a freighter? jeez people. *Flavor Flavia, Straight Up Pimppette!*
Alexis DeTocqueville	Posted - 2006.02.15 20:36:00 - [18] Originally by: Flavia Clio Seems like anything you do in 0.5 and up is an exploit or grief if it someone doesn't like it. You can suicide gank people but not stop a freighter? jeez people. Suicide-runs will get you on a Killrights list. This won't. Q-E-D.
Flavia Clio	Posted - 2006.02.15 20:57:00 - [19] Originally by: Alexis DeTocqueville Originally by: Flavia Clio Seems like anything you do in 0.5 and up is an exploit or grief if it someone doesn't like it. You can suicide gank people but not stop a freighter? jeez people. Suicide-runs will get you on a Killrights list. This won't. Q-E-D. Kill list on an alt account so what, Freighter pilot can War Dec anybody not in a noob corp, OP included. Noone in a freighter is a noob or broke, they don't need CCP to baby sit them through empire. If a bunch of tards want to hang up a freighter and ransom I say rock on. It takes alot more time, effort and team work then ganking miners in low sec. *Flavor Flavia, Straight Up Pimppette!*
Lodhi	Posted - 2006.02.15 22:25:00 - [20] Originally by: Yakti This is an exploit, same as letting your drones orbit to prevent people from warping, etc etc... Fun to see you got OMFGBBQGMPWNED!!11 :) Erhm, dont drones orbit a target by default
Deja Thoris	Posted - 2006.02.15 22:51:00 - [21] Originally by: Lodhi Originally by: Yakti This is an exploit, same as letting your drones orbit to prevent people from warping, etc etc... Fun to see you got OMFGBBQGMPWNED!!11 :) Erhm, dont drones orbit a target by default OMG HAX!!! Nice story btw
Gabby05	Posted - 2006.02.15 23:34:00 - [22] Originally by: Isis Dea I'm tempted to post the fraps videos, the screenshots, but I still need to make sure we're safely off the hook from that, as that my alliance lead (who was our gang lead) is ok with it. Isis you said a short story, should of linked the frapz and pics and saved a few paragraphs
Brutal Butcher	Posted - 2006.02.16 01:26:00 - [23] this is funny ___________________________________ agent quote Quote: Not bad. You've just saved a few of our disease-ridden slaves being released from captivity, we are proud of you! no problem :D Disease ridden vermin ftw! - Cortes
Eternal Fury	Posted - 2006.02.20 05:18:00 - [24] Wouldn't this work as an odd way to hold someone in space? Do it in a 0.0 Zone with a Pirate. When you have the Freighter "Held" ransom them. If they don't pay, have your pirate hit em and blow em. If it's co-ordinated right, it could be a PvP tactic. Low risk as all you risk is a shuttle, and a Can of Trit. 10 Shuttles, and say a BS for damage. - - - - Q: Can I change skills without logging in or Que skills? A: no. to both. End of story. Q: Wheres the Search button on the forums? A: There isn't one. go here. www.eve-search.com
Darwinia	Posted - 2006.02.20 08:10:00 - [25] The GM let you off easy.. personally I would have jumped into a Concord ship and fined you good ISK for littering and obstruction of traffic. And treatened to revoke your pilot licence on the next offence. ------------------------ I don't believe in sigs.
vanBuskirk	Posted - 2006.02.20 09:54:00 - [26] To the OP: Actually, imho the tactic you describe was an exploit, i.e. using game mechanics to advantage. If the target was really flying a freighter (with a mass of about a million tonnes and shields and armour better than a battleship) he would just keep going and bulldoze your cans and tin-can shuttles out of the way. Probably effortlessly destroying both in the process. But because the game doesn't allow for collisions having any effect, you got away with it until another game mechanic (the GM using his godlike powers) did you in. You were lucky not to get banned. Actions can and do have consequences. Deal with it. ---------------------------------------------- "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." ----------------------------------------------
Uggster	Posted - 2006.02.20 16:26:00 - [27] Edited by: Uggster on 20/02/2006 16:31:58 Originally by: vanBuskirk To the OP: Actually, imho the tactic you describe was an exploit, i.e. using game mechanics to advantage. If the target was really flying a freighter (with a mass of about a million tonnes and shields and armour better than a battleship) he would just keep going and bulldoze your cans and tin-can shuttles out of the way. Probably effortlessly destroying both in the process. But because the game doesn't allow for collisions having any effect, you got away with it until another game mechanic (the GM using his godlike powers) did you in. You were lucky not to get banned. Actions can and do have consequences. Deal with it. O M G DADDY ATTACK !!! I thought it was a nice little story and prolly a right laugh on TS as well as you watch those Cearbear Bohemoths flownder around like beached whales It reminds me of when there was the shieva patch a while ago and you could bump things for miles...Picture this... Ring of Mining barges around 2-3 cans like a wild west wagon train to protect from ore thieves and then a shuttle casualy positions itself about 15-20 past them in line with a station. The Barges "close ranks" expecting a hauler to come and try and nick their ore and instead an Apoc warps in and skittles them MILES in all directions. HAHAHAHAHA We got a warning for that one too. And as far as "In RL It would do so and so..." goes.....Blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Caeles Dominium	Posted - 2006.02.20 23:51:00 - [28] Originally by: Isis Dea This is another one of those "what not to do" tutorials for those of you dumb enough to think of something like our bored corporation did........ ROFL...that was great...
Evil's Dawn	Posted - 2006.02.23 10:21:00 - [29] I personally found this quite hilarious. If you can't see the comedy in doing something like this, you either take EVE way too seriously, or desperately need a sense of humour. If I was in that Freighter I probably would have be laffing my a** off. And I would have given the "pirates" a bonus for doing something like that. It would have made my day.
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.02.23 22:25:00 - [30] heh, simply awesome really. But it just makes me yearn for the day CCP makes size matter, so that when I'm MWDing in my keesy, going 2km/s, when I run into a CAN, it goes flying off instead of me bouncing off it like a tennis ball hitting a brick wall. Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve... This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil. RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
Rahath	Posted - 2006.02.24 12:39:00 - [31] Amusing story Fun to see that the GM found this creative solution to the "incident", heheh. "I knew a man who once said, 'Death smiles at us all. All a man can do is smile back.'"
MonwrathDisortium	Posted - 2006.02.24 16:01:00 - [32] I love it, a good way to mess with the carebears. Those who get upset about this sort of thing are those who take eve and themselves way to seriously. I once orbited a slasher around a freighter while he approached a gate, he got very upset and smaked on local about what an ***hole I was. I didnt target lock or ram him, just orbited while waiting on a friend. I will have to remember this tactic for my future carebear harrassment.
Mrmuttley	Posted - 2006.02.24 19:23:00 - [33] Originally by: Turiel Demon hehe, nice to see the difference between posters, not too hard to identify the occasional freighter pilot Anyways, sounds funny, and the punihment seems about right... don't do it again, but get those vids up QFT Funny story and the punishment is about right ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ CEO of the Smoking Hillbilly's Check out SMK We are recruiting
Kayoss	Posted - 2006.02.24 19:33:00 - [34] Very funny, where is the FRAPS or Pics?
MOOstradamus	Posted - 2006.02.25 04:53:00 - [35] Funny & wrong at the same time MOOrovingian "Following & supporting EVE (since Jan 2001) is like wiping your arse with sandpaper."
MissUndertaker	Posted - 2006.02.25 20:03:00 - [36] I've seen the pictures because I used to be in the alliance that did this freighter blocking event. The alliance that did it is Chain Reaction. The reason you never heard of them is because they are noobs who are still training skills up to form a real alliance. Executor corp Catalyst Reaction by Galde.
Commander Nikolas	Posted - 2006.02.28 21:13:00 - [37] This should be 100% legit. You can suicide on haulers in high sec you should be able to can ransom freighters. Seriously... you should be able to blow up NPC stations as well. I don't care about taking them over... blowing them up would be good enough :). DOWN WITH JITA!
Undertovv	Posted - 2006.03.08 10:22:00 - [38] Originally by: Commander Nikolas This should be 100% legit. You can suicide on haulers in high sec you should be able to can ransom freighters. Seriously... you should be able to blow up NPC stations as well. I don't care about taking them over... blowing them up would be good enough :). DOWN WITH JITA!
Mang0o	Posted - 2006.03.08 12:40:00 - [39] Originally by: Undertovv Edited by: Undertovv on 08/03/2006 10:30:48 Wow Commander Nikolas, Show how much of a panzy you are. How you yourself? blew up my apoc. You are the biggest panzy i know. You are too scared to fight me alone so you had 6 other guys attack me. I came over in peace to hang out with you guys and this is what i get? I never did anything to you. Commander Nikolas, you truly are a panzy probably in real life too. I feel sorry for you and your mom who gave birth to you. I wouldnt brag about killing someone with 6 other members. BRAG ABOUT IT WHEN YOU DO IT YOURSELF LOSER. BTW i havent lost as much as you have from what i heard. You lost a whole freighter worth of stuff that termin8or and team honda mining blew up. Oh what else happen to you and that corp Legion of the Spoon? Didnt you get owned in Tash Murkon with your corpmates? THATS RIGHT LEGION OF THE SPOON OWNED YOU. YOUR A SORRY EXCUSE FOR A HUMAN BEING AND IM GLAD YOU LOST ALOT OF STUFF. SOMETHING LIKE 50000 UNITS OF ZYDRINE NOT TO MENTION OTHER MINERALS? OH ALSO MY APOC WAS INSURED SO I DID GET 112 MIL JUST SO YOU KNOW. ownd commander panties I love you Mang0o, take a guess why -Eris
Katamarino	Posted - 2006.03.08 12:46:00 - [40] Ah, Commander Nikolas, having trouble now that the exploit you lot were using for the last few weeks has been fixed? What a joke you lot are
Usul Faust	Posted - 2006.03.08 13:20:00 - [41] Edited by: Usul Faust on 08/03/2006 13:20:45 Originally by: Commander Nikolas This should be 100% legit. You can suicide on haulers in high sec you should be able to can ransom freighters. Seriously... you should be able to blow up NPC stations as well. I don't care about taking them over... blowing them up would be good enough :). DOWN WITH JITA! Can ransoms have to be the single weakest idea ever. Its funny the first time, but when people start doing it regularly, it's the same level of mind numbing stupidity as drive-by-carpentry in UO, where roving gangs or malicious carpenters would surround an unsuspecting player and build furniture all around him so he couldn't move. The only way out was to petition a GM. It's not working as intended, its exploiting a weakness in the physics engine. Don't get me wrong, i'm hardly a carebear, but exploiting is such a cheap way of compensating for an complete lack of ability. It's only a game, why bother cheating? no skills, just luck.
skedders	Posted - 2006.03.08 14:22:00 - [42] would be awsome to see collision damage, having an inty come in doing 5000 m/s and hit a BS would be sweet :)
Nato Xemus	Posted - 2006.03.08 16:46:00 - [43] Originally by: skedders would be awsome to see collision damage, having an inty come in doing 5000 m/s and hit a BS would be sweet :) TOUCHDOWN! "Did you ever find bugs bunny attractive when he put on a dress and played a girl bunny?"
Commander Nikolas	Posted - 2006.03.09 03:54:00 - [44] Originally by: Undertovv Edited by: Undertovv on 08/03/2006 10:30:48 Wow Commander Nikolas, Show how much of a panzy you are. How you yourself? blew up my apoc. You are the biggest panzy i know. You are too scared to fight me alone so you had 6 other guys attack me. I came over in peace to hang out with you guys and this is what i get? I never did anything to you. Commander Nikolas, you truly are a panzy probably in real life too. I feel sorry for you and your mom who gave birth to you. I wouldnt brag about killing someone with 6 other members. BRAG ABOUT IT WHEN YOU DO IT YOURSELF LOSER. BTW i havent lost as much as you have from what i heard. You lost a whole freighter worth of stuff that termin8or and team honda mining blew up. Oh what else happen to you and that corp Legion of the Spoon? Didnt you get owned in Tash Murkon with your corpmates? THATS RIGHT LEGION OF THE SPOON OWNED YOU. YOUR A SORRY EXCUSE FOR A HUMAN BEING AND IM GLAD YOU LOST ALOT OF STUFF. SOMETHING LIKE 50000 UNITS OF ZYDRINE NOT TO MENTION OTHER MINERALS? OH ALSO MY APOC WAS INSURED SO I DID GET 112 MIL JUST SO YOU KNOW. Wow? You are ranting like me about warp core stabs, lol. However just so everyone knows I can't even fly a freighter. Tash-Murkon was a pretty nasty set-up, I personally lost one ship down there... Not really sure what any of that has to do with this post. Regardless if you want to 1 vs 1 fight come up to Amod :). Contact me in advance so you don't get killed en-route.
Undertovv	Posted - 2006.03.09 05:37:00 - [45] Your right it wasnt a freighter I meant a hauler full of goodies for at least 5 battleships. But since you wanna brag about 115mil isk that you contributed to with 6 other guys. I'll see that everybody sees how much stuff you lost. What you did to Hearo was no balls either and then using fraps for something like that is pretty sad. Legion of the Spoon never did that but they sure owned you and Seth Gunn. Hence another guy with no balls. You've all been neutered at birth.
Commander Nikolas	Posted - 2006.03.09 07:16:00 - [46] Yes, I lost a hauler full of about 400mil isk in minerals during the first major war I was a part of? Haha, I learned my lesson. I haven't lost a hauler since. Undertovv I really think you need to get your information correct about our dealings with Spoon. Spoons has lost about 70 ships to us verses the 15 we have lost to them. None of you ever dare tread into our space? We go up and kill your members with impunity (even though it is 15 jumps away from us). The only people that have even tried to attack us are the spoons alt corp "knights of chaos". After they take heavy casualties they all just log in space and switch back to their main accounts. Seriously Undertovv, come take it out in game. You know where I can be found :)
Lienzo	Posted - 2006.03.09 07:37:00 - [47] If the NPCs are gonna shake down travellers at least, then the players have an obligation to fill in. Assault Missile Launcher Improvement
Subaru Yakamitsukamosuki	Posted - 2006.03.09 09:33:00 - [48] wonder if you can do the same with a gang of freighters and block in a shuttle
Rei Toai	Posted - 2006.03.09 10:07:00 - [49] Edited by: Rei Toai on 09/03/2006 10:08:42 Originally by: Subaru Yakamitsukamosuki wonder if you can do the same with a gang of freighters and block in a shuttle .........
Donna Darko	Posted - 2006.03.09 19:28:00 - [50] Originally by: Usul Faust [...] drive-by-carpentry in UO, where roving gangs of malicious carpenters would surround an unsuspecting player and build furniture all around him [...] BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA OMG my sides are hurting and I had to close the door to my office to laugh as much as I could at that image... I could see Snow-White dwarfs-like carpenters on speed, grinding wood and hammering and building... ---------- Please fix the scan probes!!! (also included a guide how to use them)
Undertovv	Posted - 2006.03.10 14:28:00 - [51] Well Commander Nikolas since you want to be such a panzy. I dare you to come to my system by yourself. I know you won't. But maybe you will find an organ donor to give you a pair of balls perhaps?
xHjfx	Posted - 2006.03.10 14:28:00 - [52] Edited by: xHjfx on 10/03/2006 14:32:38 Originally by: Commander Nikolas Yes, I lost a hauler full of about 400mil isk in minerals during the first major war I was a part of? Haha, I learned my lesson. I haven't lost a hauler since. Undertovv I really think you need to get your information correct about our dealings with Spoon. Spoons has lost about 70 ships to us verses the 15 we have lost to them. None of you ever dare tread into our space? We go up and kill your members with impunity (even though it is 15 jumps away from us). The only people that have even tried to attack us are the spoons alt corp "knights of chaos". After they take heavy casualties they all just log in space and switch back to their main accounts. Seriously Undertovv, come take it out in game. You know where I can be found :) Hah not this idiot again ... last time you came, you died and you ran - Post some killmails of these "70 ships" - I dont believe we've actually lost 70 ships throughout the game... Come back and die some more - we're waiting EVEN Better - On the killboard YOU have a signature for - you dont have ANY kills on us at all.... Not seeing your 70 kills on us in Battleclinic either ... Nor killboard.eve-extra.com Well I officially declare BS :)
Mang0o	Posted - 2006.03.10 14:57:00 - [53] Originally by: Undertovv Well Commander Nikolas since you want to be such a panzy. I dare you to come to my system by yourself. I know you won't. But maybe you will find an organ donor to give you a pair of balls perhaps? lol I love you Mang0o, take a guess why -Eris
MIN5C	Posted - 2006.03.10 20:19:00 - [54] Originally by: xHjfx Edited by: xHjfx on 10/03/2006 16:09:07 Edited by: xHjfx on 10/03/2006 14:32:38 Originally by: Commander Nikolas Yes, I lost a hauler full of about 400mil isk in minerals during the first major war I was a part of? Haha, I learned my lesson. I haven't lost a hauler since. Undertovv I really think you need to get your information correct about our dealings with Spoon. Spoons has lost about 70 ships to us verses the 15 we have lost to them. None of you ever dare tread into our space? We go up and kill your members with impunity (even though it is 15 jumps away from us). The only people that have even tried to attack us are the spoons alt corp "knights of chaos". After they take heavy casualties they all just log in space and switch back to their main accounts. Seriously Undertovv, come take it out in game. You know where I can be found :) Hah not this idiot again ... last time you came, you died and you ran - Post some killmails of these "70 ships" - I dont believe we've actually lost 70 ships throughout the game... Come back and die some more - we're waiting EVEN Better - On the killboard YOU have a signature for - you dont have ANY kills on us at all.... Not seeing your 70 kills on us in Battleclinic either ... Nor killboard.eve-extra.com HELL According to those boards: You havent scored ONE KILL.. Well I officially declare BS :) 70 !!!!!! 7.. 0 YOU WISH!!!! The last time we saw you in suk you brought help got pwnd and ran away... you are without a shadow of a doubt the biggest carebear i have ever seen and i know BIG moo and Skullamunky.. You are so full of BS the mear site of your pic makes me feel sick.. I know you have been using the loggin tick so dont sit there and pretend you gd at anything, if you have to cheat then your nothing end of!!
Oscar Kain	Posted - 2006.03.10 23:20:00 - [55] Originally by: Commander Nikolas Undertovv I really think you need to get your information correct about our dealings with Spoon. Spoons has lost about 70 ships to us verses the 15 we have lost to them. None of you ever dare tread into our space? We go up and kill your members with impunity (even though it is 15 jumps away from us). Oscar thinks that Nic has fundermental clone damage from being podded too many times. Spoon has yet to loose a ship to any of you fools! The only engagement we had with you resulted in the total annihalation of your fleet. But i suppose if you cant defeat us in the game you can always just make stuff up on the forums and pretend like your a badass! To be honest man i dont think anyone really beleives you and to top it all from reading the everyones posts i dont think any one likes you either. But whatever floats your boat.
Arch Revenant	Posted - 2006.03.10 23:26:00 - [56] Nic, would you be interested in a friendly battle? Your 5 best vs our 5 best. No smack talk. No tricks. Just a friendly organzied battle. If your up for it, please respond to this post. All Hail Spoon! Death to the Fork users!
Ajax Osiris	Posted - 2006.03.10 23:47:00 - [57] Nic doesnt fight battle when the numbers are close to even.. the blob ot dont bother.. 58.4% of all stats are made up on the spot.
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.03.11 00:50:00 - [58] Originally by: Commander Nikolas This should be 100% legit. You can suicide on haulers in high sec you should be able to can ransom freighters. Seriously... you should be able to blow up NPC stations as well. I don't care about taking them over... blowing them up would be good enough :). DOWN WITH JITA! Quit ***ing kid. Until the day comes when we can bump cans, it's not going to happen. If you need to use cans to pirate and ransom(and you do it in hi-sec), then you're simply a pathetic little *. Originally by:** Istvaan Shogaatsu I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve... This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil. RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
Commander Nikolas	Posted - 2006.03.11 11:50:00 - [59] Edited by: Commander Nikolas on 11/03/2006 11:52:06 Ok this is getting a bit out of hand. Please start a "We want to smack/fight Commander Nikolas" Thread. You guys are working way to hard to hijack this thread just make a new one specifically for my enemies to hang out. To -> The alt poster Who are you? I would check killboards if you honestly beleive what you said. If you look at TFRC/OOTSS/A-I-L vs TLOS/KOC you will see very clearly that my numbers were acurate. However, I suspect that you simply posted that with an alt just to flame. To -> Ajax & Oscar I am really gald to see that Je'hira Osiris (Ajax Osiris) and Gyle (Oscar Kain) decided to post in this thread. Why? I have no clue, but it was good for a laugh. To summerize our last to fights: #1: 6 (KOC & Broken Dreams) vs 5 (AIL). KOC & Broken Dreams had a Raven, Retribution, Stilleto, Ferox, Caracel, Mulus. AIL had 2x Wolf, Manticore, Harpy, Punisher. We killed the Ret, Stilleto, Mulus, 2x Pods. The rest fled. No losses to AIL. #2 4 (KOC & Broken Dreams) vs 2 (AIL). KOC & Broken dreams had Blackbird (yes configed to jam), Retribution, Claw, Omen. AIL had Wolf, Harpy. We killed the Ret and Omen, the rest fled. No losses to AIL. To -> Undertovv Why would I want to come down to Tash area again? We went down there initally to just have fun blowing up Knights of Chaos/Spoon. We did that. We went down there a second time under contract, "the alliance" we were being paid by was being hishonest and got the whole fleet ganked. Not to mention you know full well it is 27 jumps for most of us to come to Tesh because of our SS. It is only 10 for you to go through high sec. If you want to 1 vs 1 me then just pick the ship class mate. To -> Spoon I put your offer as a vote up on the forums. Could you please eve-mail me the "rules" and system. Nobody wants to cast a vote until they have that information. To -> Everyone I am not some Mafia don that goes around ordering peoples death. Alot of people seem to be confused about that. As a director for OOTSS things were run based on informal votes (for my responsibilities as a director). AIL as a corporation is run 100% democratically (mostly through time consuming forum votes). People seem to have this weird idea that I all alone establish the corps policies and choose the corps targets. This creates alot of very odd situations like with undertovv here. Did you ever think that maybe I wasn't the one that wanted you dead? That maybe I couldn't care less? Maybe you should convo some of the people you really angered/threatened to kill and have this conversation with them? In general... look at it like this. Yes, maybe I was the one that killed you. Maybe I was the one that led the operation that killed you or your mates. However ALL members and directors have an equal say in who gets the red minus. I will be honest, I personally have only selected/gotten passed a small majority of the corps/people we have hit. So please... it really isn't personal. You really don't need to hijack threads to address it with me. In all likly hood I am the last person to talk to about WHY you were killed, I will only know about HOW you were killed.
Zafriel	Posted - 2006.03.11 15:12:00 - [60] Originally by: Subaru Yakamitsukamosuki wonder if you can do the same with a gang of freighters and block in a shuttle You can block a gate with a freighter, make everyone bump into you and the odd ship gets stuck
Oscar Kain	Posted - 2006.03.12 01:09:00 - [61] Ok... lets give this a shot. On the last three engagments with spoon, ootss/arcana lost 18,747 battle ships and 58 dreadnaughts. In total Comander nik has been podded 34 million eight hundred thousand times. Wow that was easyer than i thought. All you really do is just imagin how many casualties actualy could have been sustained (had ootss actuly had the resourses). Seriously though it does prove a good point. That all you have to do to sound like your actualy really good at this game is just make up some impossible statistics and hope that people who read it actually beleive you. Although i have to say my statistics are so much closer to the truth then yours nik. As for your later statement about ootss target choice, I really think you need to re-assess your own inportance in the realm of EVE. You talk of the target choices that ootss made in such an over inflated manner, its almost as if ootss or arcana were actualy combat effective in some way. I mean if all that were so spoon wouldnt have chased you out of Sukanan, Chaos wouldnt have defeated ootss and you yourself wouldnt have lost 7 domi's in less than a month. But unfortunately spoon did annhialate your fleet. Chaos DID defeat ootss and run them out (despite what you will no doubt claim after this post). And you and your comrades DID loose engagement after engagement to opponants that you greatly outnumbered. I understand that this must be a difficult concept for you and that this deep routed denial has woven itself into the very fabric of your sole. But if you would just come to terms with it and set aside your own narcissism for a moment you might just be abel to get past all this and move on with your life. As for hijacking your thread, it wasnt us who moved the topic on to your losses. I beleive nither I nor Ajax entered this thread until you started making things up to gain back some of your lost dignity. I am sorry that you feel you are being unduly smacked but to be honest mate you really bring it upon yourself when you start making things up. Any way I have said enough. you will hear no more from me on the subject... (Unless Nik doesnt get the message and starts Making things up again)
Commander Nikolas	Posted - 2006.03.12 03:53:00 - [62] Originally by: Oscar Kain Ok... lets give this a shot. On the last three engagments with spoon, ootss/arcana lost 18,747 battle ships and 58 dreadnaughts. In total Comander nik has been podded 34 million eight hundred thousand times. Wow that was easyer than i thought. All you really do is just imagin how many casualties actualy could have been sustained (had ootss actuly had the resourses). Seriously though it does prove a good point. That all you have to do to sound like your actualy really good at this game is just make up some impossible statistics and hope that people who read it actually beleive you. Although i have to say my statistics are so much closer to the truth then yours nik. As for your later statement about ootss target choice, I really think you need to re-assess your own inportance in the realm of EVE. You talk of the target choices that ootss made in such an over inflated manner, its almost as if ootss or arcana were actualy combat effective in some way. I mean if all that were so spoon wouldnt have chased you out of Sukanan, Chaos wouldnt have defeated ootss and you yourself wouldnt have lost 7 domi's in less than a month. But unfortunately spoon did annhialate your fleet. Chaos DID defeat ootss and run them out (despite what you will no doubt claim after this post). And you and your comrades DID loose engagement after engagement to opponants that you greatly outnumbered. I understand that this must be a difficult concept for you and that this deep routed denial has woven itself into the very fabric of your sole. But if you would just come to terms with it and set aside your own narcissism for a moment you might just be abel to get past all this and move on with your life. As for hijacking your thread, it wasnt us who moved the topic on to your losses. I beleive nither I nor Ajax entered this thread until you started making things up to gain back some of your lost dignity. I am sorry that you feel you are being unduly smacked but to be honest mate you really bring it upon yourself when you start making things up. Any way I have said enough. you will hear no more from me on the subject... (Unless Nik doesnt get the message and starts Making things up again) Alright, when killboards get sighted you simply make things up. You can continue to say whatever you want. I am not going to post in this thread any further in regards to Undertovv, Knights of Chaos, and Spoon. Anyone can check battleclinic or podbase and evaluate the validity of my information. You guys seriously need to get some self control. Take your aggression out in game...
Maxxt0r	Posted - 2006.03.12 09:13:00 - [63] Edited by: Maxxt0r on 12/03/2006 09:13:30
Miss Lear	Posted - 2006.03.12 09:14:00 - [64] Lets get the facts stright. Spoon and what ever alt corp you may be talking of are not related in any way other then people... BUT!! CCP has made the game so as that the people can play as 3 diffrent races.. roles.. what ever.. So this is what i see. Commander nik. you are a sore loser. You blame you loses from what ever wars you might be fighting on one character on spoon for no reason other them you have to place the blam on some one else. You are full of it. You have nothing to back up your claims. I am a director of Spoon. I know the corp inside and out, and i know every major engament the corp has been in. Commander nik, i am sorry but you are a liar. I am calling you out right here. You can say what ever it is, but you have only faced us as in spoon in 1 engagment ever, and that is only cuz you have it in your thick skull that spoon is connected with this alt corp, and you are wrong and it resulted in your complete and utter destruction in ordat. you lost like 5 ships and a few pods and then you have never been seen from again. I am not trying to be rude, but man you need to get over it. If you are ebing attacked leave it those who are attacking you. Spoon has ntohing to do with you and you know it. We are bust enough in our area doing our own thing. as i write this.. i am feeling less and less sympathtics for you commander nik. i started off trying to settle this. but man. you just cant get it in your head do you? Spoon is anti pirate. and we mean you no harm. We have faithful follower and dozens of corps and well known allainces that know us. HUZZAH/CVA/ISS and more all know us a faithfull anti pirates. and again as i write this i get a bit agered that you want to blwo this out of praportion. You claim to have destroied what .. 70 of our ships. It is lies, and you know it. I hate comming on the forums.. i have played this game for like 2 years and think this is my 4th appearance on the eve forume. You anger me commander nik. Spoon likes to fight, but we like to fight for a cause... all can say is leave it to the character in the game.. not ther person. Fight the alt corp not spoon. Spoon has nothing to do with them, but if you want and you come to our home again for a 2nd round i am sure you wont have a plesent time..... I am done with hearing about you and the forums.. please dont make me come back on here and embares you in front of the galaxy... cuz ya know what.. i will... and i wont have a problem doing it.. leave spoon alone and move on with your own porblems
Coordinator Slash	Posted - 2006.03.12 14:28:00 - [65] I checked your claims on battleclinic and podbase, but neither killboard has registered ANY killmails by OOTSS or AIL against TLOS. I fail to see how these boards suport that you killed 70 ships from TLOS.
Oscar Kain	Posted - 2006.03.12 14:48:00 - [66] Thats the point Slash. He doesnt actually have the proof. Hes just trying to wind us up by slandering spoon! But you know what? From all the other posts i've been reading. I'm pretty certain no ones falling for it!
Undertovv	Posted - 2006.03.12 22:45:00 - [67] Commander Nikolas brags about kills he needs help on HES PROUD OF IT! I mean come on Nikolas if you didnt like me at least you could have ask me to fight you at a planet in Goinard instead of staging the most lamest kill ever. 4 battleships 1 ferox and a inty? Dude thats more sad than your mom having you. The worst thing is that he takes full credit for it lol. Kind of reminds you of a guy in a movie with no balls lifting his gun up in the air and closes his eyes and fires. But something behind him takes the thing out and he opens his eyes and thinks he did it lol.
Ajax Osiris	Posted - 2006.03.13 10:58:00 - [68] I think Nic has taken a ball baggin in this thread and it has take a big part of the enjoyment out of eve form me... I dont wish this on anyone and i hope lessons have been learnt. If a admin is watchin this thread please close it off as it must be in vilation of a **** load of fourm rules... Lets just play eve hey?? If you cant win a fight ot loosing a ship is 2 pain full dont fight. I dont like this thread and its spoiling majour parts of the game. 58.4% of all stats are made up on the spot.
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.03.14 08:38:00 - [69] Originally by: Commander Nikolas Anyone can check battleclinic or podbase and evaluate the validity of my information. EVE needs some sort of 'offical' killboard, because player-run ones can be easily abused, and alot of people know this. Saying to check a killboard generally isn't that great of a way to confirm 'validity' due to the abuse some have used. Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve... This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil. RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
Commander Nikolas	Posted - 2006.03.14 17:24:00 - [70] Originally by: Undertovv Edited by: Undertovv on 12/03/2006 23:00:06 Commander Nikolas brags about kills he needs help on HES PROUD OF IT! I mean come on Nikolas if you didnt like me at least you could have ask me to fight you at a planet in Goinard instead of staging the most lamest kill ever. 4 battleships 1 ferox and a inty? Dude thats more sad than your mom giving birth to someone like you. The worst thing is that he takes full credit for it lol. Kind of reminds you of a guy in a movie with no balls lifting his gun up in the air and closes his eyes and fires. But something behind him takes the thing out and he opens his eyes and thinks he did it lol. ... This is a game dude, calm down. Everybody gets ganked now and again you need to learn to deal with it. You were thrown out of OOTSS for making comments like this to other corp members and RL threats. You need to learn to deal with what happens to you in eve better.

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