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Gilie	Posted - 2006.02.15 12:43:00 - [1] In the past month the hole noth area has turned in to a chaos region FE allied with .5 and gone to war with x friends PA/NBSI. A lot of corps and PVP pilots deserted the area because there were not so happy with FE standing to FIVE. Before this a lot of plyers form PA left the alliance serching for something better. Now with the war against PA and NBSI well in my pov they can't stand to mutch against 5 AND FE, not that I don't want them to hold but the numbers well they will talk for all of us, so if those 2 alliances fall there will be so many pilots with out a home in 0.0 The qestion is if a new alliance will rize from the broken bones of the old one. 0.0 space is now dominated again by pirate alliances when will this new dark age of eve will brake. What say you?! My question is simple were are they going to do from http://www.newsight.ro/sacra/index.htm
HC MasiEEE	Posted - 2006.02.15 12:46:00 - [2] New alliances are born daily/weekly ____________ HC MasiEEE
Edoo	Posted - 2006.02.15 12:46:00 - [3] F-E are going down so don't worry
Muthsera	Posted - 2006.02.15 12:57:00 - [4] It's to many of em tbh. My thoughs
Iberi	Posted - 2006.02.15 13:07:00 - [5] Originally by: Edoo F-E are going down so don't worry Wow! Everybody knows how brave are docked NBSI carebears. For you and your alliance better to keep silence.
TURBOman	Posted - 2006.02.15 13:13:00 - [6] Time will tell Linkage Your sig is too large, please reduce it's size and have the ladies in it give me a call - Ductoris
Dahin	Posted - 2006.02.15 13:13:00 - [7] Woohoo, join the bandwagon! I know I will
teh pR3acH3r	Posted - 2006.02.15 13:35:00 - [8] Originally by: Gilie In the past month the hole noth area has turned in to a chaos region FE allied with .5 and gone to war with x friends PA/NBSI. A lot of corps and PVP pilots deserted the area because there were not so happy with FE standing to FIVE. Before this a lot of plyers form PA left the alliance serching for something better. Now with the war against PA and NBSI well in my pov they can't stand to mutch against 5 AND FE, not that I don't want them to hold but the numbers well they will talk for all of us, so if those 2 alliances fall there will be so many pilots with out a home in 0.0 The qestion is if a new alliance will rize from the broken bones of the old one. 0.0 space is now dominated again by pirate alliances when will this new dark age of eve will brake. What say you?! My question is simple were are they going to do from 2/10 I would've given you a higher troll score if you would have mentioned something about PA being dead already and NBSI losing 10 hundred ships to FE. learn2troll noob. _________________________________
Amthrianius	Posted - 2006.02.15 13:38:00 - [9] I find it amusing thet the corp your PA alt is in Edoo just left :) ---------------
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.02.15 14:02:00 - [10] Firstly, .5. arent a pirate alliance.. not sure any current alliance claims to be pirate.. we pvp with goals, both long term and short term.. Skipping past that.. no good pilot is ever without a home for long (unless he wants it that way ofc) I've seen quite a few PA pilots joining BOB.. would you have thought this would ever happen 6mths to 1 year ago? others joined other pvp groups, some formed small corps of their own.. As for a new alliance, i rather doubt 1 will come directly from this.. personnally i think ppl need to move on, find their feet and look for new goals.. the current PA is a perfect example of why.. They limbed on after the GNW, without any real PVP strength.. How do you inspire the good vet pvp'ers that you need, to join and revitalise a defeated alliance? how many vet pvpers actually need access to 0.0 to be given to them? PA Salesman: "hi, Join us.. you can come shoot [5]" PVP'er: "I can do that already.. why do need your dead weight to do that?" I think you need to inspire the best pvp'ers with long term goals, not short term ones.. --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA We do not go hunting, cuz hunting infers the possibility of failure.. We go killing...
Gilie	Posted - 2006.02.15 14:30:00 - [11] Ok maybe I wa swrong your not pirates your the "bad people" and we are the good people we don't go conqering spaces just for the fun of some kill mails or because "hell we can so let's do it" And let's be onest now you do this because you are not capabile to mantain a Alliance with out non-stop PVP. You use the PVP like a distraction from the real mess hole that you are in if you stay in one place and try to dezvolte your own economy and structure. By now I think evry norten rezident nows that BoB sponsored you with bilions of ISK to mantain the war with FE and achived the perfect gole surendering of FE and automated distruction of the hole north alliances. After the fall of the north Bob will have free hand to attack G and 5 and FE will attack Iron with no more support from NBSI / PA / ex. FE well time will tell what will happen. And pls speer me the 2$ propaganda 5. is and always will be part of the "bad force" in EVE We all now who and what you are and others like you. I am asking the leaders of old pvp and respectable corps to rise up rise from the ashes and let's put an end to all of this. VIVA LA REVOLUTION!!! http://www.newsight.ro/sacra/index.htm
Edoo	Posted - 2006.02.15 14:33:00 - [12] Originally by: Amthrianius I find it amusing thet the corp your PA alt is in Edoo just left :) why?
ZedLey	Posted - 2006.02.15 14:44:00 - [13] Originally by: Gilie By now I think evry norten rezident nows that BoB sponsored you with bilions of ISK to mantain the war with FE and achived the perfect gole surendering of FE and automated distruction of the hole north alliances. nice intel
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.02.15 14:47:00 - [14] LOL.. good plan.. blame bob.. (only took 10 posts this thread) seriously.. you think we're bad and your good, that's you opinion.. but why are you good for wanting an area.. and we are bad for doing the same? tbh i rather doubt posting "these ppl are bad come shoot them for me, so i can npc/mine in peace" will inspire the great pvp leaders of the past to play again, and come shoot us.. it's actually more likely they will come join us --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA We do not go hunting, cuz hunting infers the possibility of failure.. We go killing...
Vince Draken	Posted - 2006.02.15 14:49:00 - [15] Edited by: Vince Draken on 15/02/2006 14:52:54 Gilie, how is the Period Basis League (PBL) doing? Maybe someday you and tardcalos will someday figure out how Eve is played. I for one won't be holding my breat waiting. The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such.
Tiuwaz	Posted - 2006.02.15 14:55:00 - [16] since 1.1 2006, 18 new alliances have been formed, so no there is no lack of new alliances Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it! To the nerfmobile!
Vince Draken	Posted - 2006.02.15 14:57:00 - [17] Originally by: Gilie By now I think evry norten rezident nows that BoB sponsored you with bilions of ISK to mantain the war with FE and achived the perfect gole surendering of FE and automated distruction of the hole north alliances. You'd be suprised how many ppl in Atuk have tons of isk. The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such.
Shayla Sh'inlux	Posted - 2006.02.15 15:00:00 - [18] Edited by: Shayla Sh''inlux on 15/02/2006 15:03:12 F-E is already dead, really. We would like to discuss surrender terms. We can offer NBSI/PA/CRUEL 2b isk and a dreadnought of choice each, plus enough PoS stuff and fuel to keep Sov in Trib and Vale for around 2 years. I'll be your personal mining slave for 1 day for each week you will not shoot me. I think other F-E members offered similar rates already.
B orange	Posted - 2006.02.15 15:03:00 - [19] Let me bring some light into this: Sacra Nomina are a bunch of miners usually making a lot of money (RL ones too).. they will be happy anywhere just leave them mine and rat. A lot of alts, suplying lots of pvp-ers, all over EVE. They desperately need pvp-ers but going on a trip with them it's pointless since you won't get support on a long run. Born dead alliance. Since i'm here i would like to issue a request for one t2 kitted tempest, delivered to Empire space in max. 2 days.. BOB?
TURBOman	Posted - 2006.02.15 15:19:00 - [20] Originally by: Gilie omgwtfisthiscrapcomingout VIVA LA REVOLUTION!!! Omg. This is a game, it has many different aspects. If one alliance consists of people that don't like tycoon games that much and wishes to fight all the time does that make people in it BAD?? And why should a chunk of space belong to someone that came there first? If u can't defend it u can't claim it period. Think before u post Linkage Your sig is too large, please reduce it's size and have the ladies in it give me a call - Ductoris
pacifica	Posted - 2006.02.15 15:22:00 - [21] Originally by: thoth foc Firstly, .5. arent a pirate alliance.. not sure any current alliance claims to be pirate.. we pvp with goals, both long term and short term.. Skipping past that.. no good pilot is ever without a home for long (unless he wants it that way ofc) I've seen quite a few PA pilots joining BOB.. would you have thought this would ever happen 6mths to 1 year ago? others joined other pvp groups, some formed small corps of their own.. As for a new alliance, i rather doubt 1 will come directly from this.. personnally i think ppl need to move on, find their feet and look for new goals.. the current PA is a perfect example of why.. They limbed on after the GNW, without any real PVP strength.. How do you inspire the good vet pvp'ers that you need, to join and revitalise a defeated alliance? how many vet pvpers actually need access to 0.0 to be given to them? PA Salesman: "hi, Join us.. you can come shoot [5]" PVP'er: "I can do that already.. why do need your dead weight to do that?" I think you need to inspire the best pvp'ers with long term goals, not short term ones.. Some Corp Quit and Some come... part of EvE. Same Thing Happend to .5. Some member join BoB what we can do.... nothing 1 thing that is Sure is this SolidLine will fight Five always even if we lose our space i don t care. F-E will Die that Sure too. KAOS they never learn they will die too. PA and NBSI no need to say we are dead.... But KAOS and FE did see some GHOST Ship hitting them hardly..... ours Space will be hard to be take. that why F-E and KAOS need ATUK Capital Ship to help them.... like ATUK told in local 1 time .5. is Nothing without ATUK..... BTW ATUK talking about corp leaving your alliance was the first one to lose Founding corp..... Smack me i don t care...... Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
Skeeter Rabbit	Posted - 2006.02.15 15:31:00 - [22] Originally by: Gilie Ok maybe I wa swrong your not pirates your the "bad people" and we are the good people we don't go conqering spaces just for the fun of some kill mails or because "hell we can so let's do it" And let's be onest now you do this because you are not capabile to mantain a Alliance with out non-stop PVP. You use the PVP like a distraction from the real mess hole that you are in if you stay in one place and try to dezvolte your own economy and structure. By now I think evry norten rezident nows that BoB sponsored you with bilions of ISK to mantain the war with FE and achived the perfect gole surendering of FE and automated distruction of the hole north alliances. After the fall of the north Bob will have free hand to attack G and 5 and FE will attack Iron with no more support from NBSI / PA / ex. FE well time will tell what will happen. And pls speer me the 2$ propaganda 5. is and always will be part of the "bad force" in EVE We all now who and what you are and others like you. I am asking the leaders of old pvp and respectable corps to rise up rise from the ashes and let's put an end to all of this. VIVA LA REVOLUTION!!! Viva la revolution ??? I simply cant belive the amount of stupidity in this post. First... its a video game... stupid. Some people like to play unreal tournament and some like to play sims. I like to shoot... i play because the PVP... everything else is boring (in my opinion). You like to play sims i c and you would like to be left alone so u can mine build or whatever ... buhu Eve is best simulation of real world because there is PVP and economy. I would always join a PVP corp b4 i join any of the constantly-mining-and-building corps. Second... its not your business who sponsores who... what does that have to do with anything anyway. Founders of FIVE gave billions of thier own money to the corp... not that that is any of your concern. Here is some 2$ propaganda for ya Yea ... 5 is bad ! And you and anyone who wants to join you can come and get their asses kicked... viva la revolution.
Jhonen Senraedi	Posted - 2006.02.15 15:33:00 - [23] Originally by: thoth foc Firstly, .5. arent a pirate alliance.. Really? Thats why 3 of your alliances pilots took me down...A Neutral...in non-5 alliance territory.Guess their Crusader,Crow and Taranis were afraid of my unarmed..and pretty empty Badger Mark II....ssystem was E-Z2ZX... so If 5 aren't pirates..then are they just cold blooded killers who randomly gank anyone they find no matter who's sovereign space they are in?
Lilan Kahn	Posted - 2006.02.15 15:33:00 - [24] Originally by: pacifica Originally by: thoth foc Firstly, .5. arent a pirate alliance.. not sure any current alliance claims to be pirate.. we pvp with goals, both long term and short term.. Skipping past that.. no good pilot is ever without a home for long (unless he wants it that way ofc) I've seen quite a few PA pilots joining BOB.. would you have thought this would ever happen 6mths to 1 year ago? others joined other pvp groups, some formed small corps of their own.. As for a new alliance, i rather doubt 1 will come directly from this.. personnally i think ppl need to move on, find their feet and look for new goals.. the current PA is a perfect example of why.. They limbed on after the GNW, without any real PVP strength.. How do you inspire the good vet pvp'ers that you need, to join and revitalise a defeated alliance? how many vet pvpers actually need access to 0.0 to be given to them? PA Salesman: "hi, Join us.. you can come shoot [5]" PVP'er: "I can do that already.. why do need your dead weight to do that?" I think you need to inspire the best pvp'ers with long term goals, not short term ones.. Some Corp Quit and Some come... part of EvE. Same Thing Happend to .5. Some member join BoB what we can do.... nothing 1 thing that is Sure is this SolidLine will fight Five always even if we lose our space i don t care. F-E will Die that Sure too. KAOS they never learn they will die too. PA and NBSI no need to say we are dead.... But KAOS and FE did see some GHOST Ship hitting them hardly..... ours Space will be hard to be take. that why F-E and KAOS need ATUK Capital Ship to help them.... like ATUK told in local 1 time .5. is Nothing without ATUK..... BTW ATUK talking about corp leaving your alliance was the first one to lose Founding corp..... Smack me i don t care...... PA got how many founding mebers left ?? PA got corp's around from the start of its birth ?? stop spureing crap over who left what, Pa to me wil always be a bunch of unwilling gits with no guts Originally by: Eris Discordia We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
Lilan Kahn	Posted - 2006.02.15 15:36:00 - [25] Originally by: Jhonen Senraedi Originally by: thoth foc Firstly, .5. arent a pirate alliance.. Really? Thats why 3 of your alliances pilots took me down...A Neutral...in non-5 alliance territory.Guess their Crusader,Crow and Taranis were afraid of my unarmed..and pretty empty Badger Mark II....ssystem was E-Z2ZX... so If 5 aren't pirates..then are they just cold blooded killers who randomly gank anyone they find no matter who's sovereign space they are in? Bob operate with a NBSI police do that make us pewrats for blowing you up for fun in 0.0 ? Originally by: Eris Discordia We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
TURBOman	Posted - 2006.02.15 15:36:00 - [26] Originally by: Jhonen Senraedi Originally by: thoth foc Firstly, .5. arent a pirate alliance.. Really? Thats why 3 of your alliances pilots took me down...A Neutral...in non-5 alliance territory.Guess their Crusader,Crow and Taranis were afraid of my unarmed..and pretty empty Badger Mark II....ssystem was E-Z2ZX... so If 5 aren't pirates..then are they just cold blooded killers who randomly gank anyone they find no matter who's sovereign space they are in? Shooting neutrals is our defence policy tbh ;) Linkage Your sig is too large, please reduce it's size and have the ladies in it give me a call - Ductoris
ZedLey	Posted - 2006.02.15 15:36:00 - [27] Originally by: Jhonen Senraedi Originally by: thoth foc Firstly, .5. arent a pirate alliance.. Really? Thats why 3 of your alliances pilots took me down...A Neutral...in non-5 alliance territory.Guess their Crusader,Crow and Taranis were afraid of my unarmed..and pretty empty Badger Mark II....ssystem was E-Z2ZX... so If 5 aren't pirates..then are they just cold blooded killers who randomly gank anyone they find no matter who's sovereign space they are in? Wrong time in wrong place
Gilie	Posted - 2006.02.15 15:38:00 - [28] Originally by: B orange Let me bring some light into this: Sacra Nomina are a bunch of miners usually making a lot of money (RL ones too).. they will be happy anywhere just leave them mine and rat. A lot of alts, suplying lots of pvp-ers, all over EVE. They desperately need pvp-ers but going on a trip with them it's pointless since you won't get support on a long run. Born dead alliance. Since i'm here i would like to issue a request for one t2 kitted tempest, delivered to Empire space in max. 2 days.. BOB? M8t first of things you do not now nothing about SACRA so we make money so we have bilions and bilions of ISK so what we still fight 5. and respect our enemy and our friends. If what you sayed was true why did SACRA leave FE first thing after we found out that we were +10 with 5. tell me smart ass we could of stayed in FE and mine/rat like you sayed better then ever no 5. to desturb us just peace and quite. But you see you can't think a head of what is right in front of you you see only 5 min a head of you. And by the way in FE fleet battles with 5 we had the most large EW fleet have of your dear friends were siting and watching the battle. So yea we are miners and we like it what dose that have to do with the dicutions in here, what you could not bring something better or maybe the truth hurts. http://www.newsight.ro/sacra/index.htm
Skeeter Rabbit	Posted - 2006.02.15 15:39:00 - [29] Originally by: Jhonen Senraedi Originally by: thoth foc Firstly, .5. arent a pirate alliance.. Really? Thats why 3 of your alliances pilots took me down...A Neutral...in non-5 alliance territory.Guess their Crusader,Crow and Taranis were afraid of my unarmed..and pretty empty Badger Mark II....ssystem was E-Z2ZX... so If 5 aren't pirates..then are they just cold blooded killers who randomly gank anyone they find no matter who's sovereign space they are in? ahh.... get over it. If they killed you .... they must be pirates. 5 is one of the major forces in EVE... that is a fact no matter what u say. They have a territory... so dont go in it. First you play with fire than you r whining when u get burned
pacifica	Posted - 2006.02.15 15:41:00 - [30] Originally by: Lilan Kahn Originally by: pacifica Originally by: thoth foc Firstly, .5. arent a pirate alliance.. not sure any current alliance claims to be pirate.. we pvp with goals, both long term and short term.. Skipping past that.. no good pilot is ever without a home for long (unless he wants it that way ofc) I've seen quite a few PA pilots joining BOB.. would you have thought this would ever happen 6mths to 1 year ago? others joined other pvp groups, some formed small corps of their own.. As for a new alliance, i rather doubt 1 will come directly from this.. personnally i think ppl need to move on, find their feet and look for new goals.. the current PA is a perfect example of why.. They limbed on after the GNW, without any real PVP strength.. How do you inspire the good vet pvp'ers that you need, to join and revitalise a defeated alliance? how many vet pvpers actually need access to 0.0 to be given to them? PA Salesman: "hi, Join us.. you can come shoot [5]" PVP'er: "I can do that already.. why do need your dead weight to do that?" I think you need to inspire the best pvp'ers with long term goals, not short term ones.. Some Corp Quit and Some come... part of EvE. Same Thing Happend to .5. Some member join BoB what we can do.... nothing 1 thing that is Sure is this SolidLine will fight Five always even if we lose our space i don t care. F-E will Die that Sure too. KAOS they never learn they will die too. PA and NBSI no need to say we are dead.... But KAOS and FE did see some GHOST Ship hitting them hardly..... ours Space will be hard to be take. that why F-E and KAOS need ATUK Capital Ship to help them.... like ATUK told in local 1 time .5. is Nothing without ATUK..... BTW ATUK talking about corp leaving your alliance was the first one to lose Founding corp..... Smack me i don t care...... PA got how many founding mebers left ?? PA got corp's around from the start of its birth ?? stop spureing crap over who left what, Pa to me wil always be a bunch of unwilling gits with no guts Look who talk you join your corp and your alliance cause you want to find the I WIN BUTTON . I m uber i m in BoB.... lol the real challenge is this Fighting better then u. that how we learn. Don t worry BoB alliance is on my What to do next list. But ATM my WHAT to Do LIST is pretty fill BoB is pending atm.... Soon will be on u Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
Iberi	Posted - 2006.02.15 15:45:00 - [31] Originally by: Jhonen Senraedi Originally by: thoth foc Firstly, .5. arent a pirate alliance.. Really? Thats why 3 of your alliances pilots took me down...A Neutral...in non-5 alliance territory.Guess their Crusader,Crow and Taranis were afraid of my unarmed..and pretty empty Badger Mark II....ssystem was E-Z2ZX... so If 5 aren't pirates..then are they just cold blooded killers who randomly gank anyone they find no matter who's sovereign space they are in? Small jump to the south. Looking ... Hmm. Red Alliance? Pirates! Of course all their allies are pirates because supports pirating. Veritas Immortalis? Pirates too! Of course all their allies are pirates because supports pirating.
Lilan Kahn	Posted - 2006.02.15 15:45:00 - [32] lol you bitter bitter littel man, every tryed geting spamed on msn, irc and ingame abut "join us mate we need you" also i was there helping pa vs every one else in TPS, where was Pa oh you know hideing in empire, we came to help PA never bothered to talk with us so just shut up you have no clue silly pa nubbie Originally by: Eris Discordia We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
Iberi	Posted - 2006.02.15 15:49:00 - [33] I don't like The Five(rather hate) and neutral to FE, but I am sicking from looking carebears and isk-miners which promise revenge. Guys, where you fly when The Five and FE clashed?
pacifica	Posted - 2006.02.15 15:50:00 - [34] Originally by: Lilan Kahn lol you bitter bitter littel man, every tryed geting spamed on msn, irc and ingame abut "join us mate we need you" also i was there helping pa vs every one else in TPS, where was Pa oh you know hideing in empire, we came to help PA never bothered to talk with us so just shut up you have no clue silly pa nubbie BTW every Alliance in Game change every 6 mounth.... new ppl new corp new idee... ATM PA o help their friend i Know i m in PA i m always moving lol. PA did make mistake we are humain we are not perfect... Sorry but at lease we say when we make mistake we admit it... Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
Brisi	Posted - 2006.02.15 15:51:00 - [35] Edited by: Brisi on 15/02/2006 15:52:00 PA, NBSI and F-E, .5., whatever, will be destroyed sooner or later (from war, or from internal problems), then new alliances with new friends will arise, though it will contain the same corps as the old alliances had. Such is the way it has always been in EVE, and thus it will continue.
pacifica	Posted - 2006.02.15 15:53:00 - [36] Originally by: Brisi Edited by: Brisi on 15/02/2006 15:52:00 PA, NBSI and F-E, .5., whatever, will be destroyed sooner or later (from war, or from internal problems), then new alliances with new friends will arise, though it will contain the same corps as the old alliances had. Such is the way it has always been in EVE, and thus it will continue. Agree :) Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
TURBOman	Posted - 2006.02.15 15:55:00 - [37] Originally by: pacifica Originally by: Brisi Edited by: Brisi on 15/02/2006 15:52:00 PA, NBSI and F-E, .5., whatever, will be destroyed sooner or later (from war, or from internal problems), then new alliances with new friends will arise, though it will contain the same corps as the old alliances had. Such is the way it has always been in EVE, and thus it will continue. Agree :) Eve it self will be destroyed sooner or later... people will die sooner or later... why live ? Linkage Your sig is too large, please reduce it's size and have the ladies in it give me a call - Ductoris
Skeeter Rabbit	Posted - 2006.02.15 15:56:00 - [38] Nomina Sacra Sapientia? How inteligent... How profound... You can almost feal how experience wreaks souly out of the name of the corp. That Sacred Spirit (totaly lame nick... how do u ppl come up that crap) has no scence of collors and forms... that is one realy bad design of a web page. wtf is wrong with u people... do u have any life besides EVE. You r so "in" to things that i was suprised
Vince Draken	Posted - 2006.02.15 15:58:00 - [39] My favorite is tardcalose's bio: "I hate CA or ex-CA actual FIVE --- WAR FOREVER" The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such.
Skeeter Rabbit	Posted - 2006.02.15 15:59:00 - [40] Originally by: Vince Draken My favorite is tardcalose's bio: "I hate CA or ex-CA actual FIVE --- WAR FOREVER"
Gilie	Posted - 2006.02.15 16:06:00 - [41] Edited by: Gilie on 15/02/2006 16:07:58 Originally by: Skeeter Rabbit Nomina Sacra Sapientia? How inteligent... How profound... You can almost feal how experience wreaks souly out of the name of the corp. That Sacred Spirit (totaly lame nick... how do u ppl come up that crap) has no scence of collors and forms... that is one realy bad design of a web page. wtf is wrong with u people... do u have any life besides EVE. You r so "in" to things that i was suprised Well my friend you are to stupid to do anything so ** off pls before I you and you will not sit down and ** right for a week, k baby. Maybe some of us are dedicated to our work and in evry thing we do. We like when we make something to be proud of what you did to fell that you made a diference. Not like you and others many others ... I can't forget PBL when shinra conquered T-PAR in the next 10 min there were like 6-12 NAP's with SHinra form diferent corps members of PBL same thing happend with FE now only at a biger scale. So like someone sayed it's the WIN BUTTON that makes your game not the game it self. I respect 5. for there battle skills but I don't respect the parazites that came along after being brough down. PS: he's name is Tycalos http://www.newsight.ro/sacra/index.htm
ZedLey	Posted - 2006.02.15 16:45:00 - [42] Originally by: Edoo F-E are going down so don't worry With decent corps like Hun, mlm, gods and dvrn and more still left in F-E i fail to see it happen tbh
Edoo	Posted - 2006.02.15 17:03:00 - [43] Edited by: Edoo on 15/02/2006 17:03:06 Originally by: Lilan Kahn PA got how many founding mebers left ?? PA got corp's around from the start of its birth ?? omg who cares!11one Originally by: Lilan Kahn stop spureing crap over who left what, Pa to me wil always be a bunch of unwilling gits with no guts you don't even know PA if they have all new members so stfu and stop contradicting yourself, there is no need for this blatent smack.
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.02.15 17:04:00 - [44] Originally by: pacifica Don t worry BoB alliance is on my What to do next list. But ATM my WHAT to Do LIST is pretty fill BoB is pending atm.... Soon will be on u Is that like when you were in Imperium and were going to destroy us right before we ripped your alliance a new one, took your region and booted you out of 0.0 space.... immediately prior to you running away as far as possible from us and joining PA? I don't think we'll be awfully worried about being on your to do list to be honest. Best of luck at not ditching PA and doing a runner though, you seem to be doing ok so far Eve Blacklight Style
Jhonen Senraedi	Posted - 2006.02.15 17:08:00 - [45] Originally by: Skeeter Rabbit Originally by: Jhonen Senraedi Originally by: thoth foc Firstly, .5. arent a pirate alliance.. Really? Thats why 3 of your alliances pilots took me down...A Neutral...in non-5 alliance territory.Guess their Crusader,Crow and Taranis were afraid of my unarmed..and pretty empty Badger Mark II....ssystem was E-Z2ZX... so If 5 aren't pirates..then are they just cold blooded killers who randomly gank anyone they find no matter who's sovereign space they are in? ahh.... get over it. If they killed you .... they must be pirates. 5 is one of the major forces in EVE... that is a fact no matter what u say. They have a territory... so dont go in it. First you play with fire than you r whining when u get burned Hmm..well...I'm amking a statement in relation to something said by a 5 Alliance member so how is that whining?Secondly..just where does it say that I was in their territory....I wasn't ..I was in the Fade corridor which is,I believed the sovereign territory of various factions...Not 5... From the remarks here one must assume that it is ok for bully-boy alliances to go wherever they wish and do whatever they will..even in someone elses space... Oh..and if they..5...or any other alliance for that matter has a habit of hunting and podding people in neutral faction territories or such then they should grow the cajonas and put it out there that they are conducting a war against all and sundry no matter what their status or who's territory it is in. In other words..if an Alliance is conducting NBSI policy in anothers territory..then they should stand up and declare it...and while they are at it may as well declare war on the faction who's territorial rights they are infringing.
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.02.15 17:10:00 - [46] Originally by: Gilie By now I think evry norten rezident nows that BoB sponsored you with bilions of ISK to mantain the war with FE and achived the perfect gole surendering of FE and automated distruction of the hole north alliances. After the fall of the north Bob will have free hand to attack G and 5 and FE will attack Iron with no more support from NBSI / PA / ex. FE well time will tell what will happen. Have you seen that film Signs, the kids in it make themselves some hats, you should watch it and make yourself one... they're kind of shiney and might help resist whatever maliscious paranoid influence you are under Eve Blacklight Style
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.02.15 17:20:00 - [47] Originally by: Jhonen Senraedi Hmm..well...I'm amking a statement in relation to something said by a 5 Alliance member so how is that whining?Secondly..just where does it say that I was in their territory....I wasn't ..I was in the Fade corridor which is,I believed the sovereign territory of various factions...Not 5... From the remarks here one must assume that it is ok for bully-boy alliances to go wherever they wish and do whatever they will..even in someone elses space... Oh..and if they..5...or any other alliance for that matter has a habit of hunting and podding people in neutral faction territories or such then they should grow the cajonas and put it out there that they are conducting a war against all and sundry no matter what their status or who's territory it is in. In other words..if an Alliance is conducting NBSI policy in anothers territory..then they should stand up and declare it...and while they are at it may as well declare war on the faction who's territorial rights they are infringing. we have no neutral factions, +5 are the closest of neutral we have.. consider this a standup declaration --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA We do not go hunting, cuz hunting infers the possibility of failure.. We go killing...
Lilan Kahn	Posted - 2006.02.15 18:54:00 - [48] Originally by: Edoo Edited by: Edoo on 15/02/2006 17:03:06 Originally by: Lilan Kahn PA got how many founding mebers left ?? PA got corp's around from the start of its birth ?? omg who cares!11one Originally by: Lilan Kahn stop spureing crap over who left what, Pa to me wil always be a bunch of unwilling gits with no guts you don't even know PA if they have all new members so stfu and stop contradicting yourself, there is no need for this blatent smack. omg buhu read what they where in relation to silly toss pot Originally by: Eris Discordia We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
Vince Draken	Posted - 2006.02.15 19:15:00 - [49] Originally by: Edoo Edited by: Edoo on 15/02/2006 17:03:06 Originally by: Lilan Kahn PA got how many founding mebers left ?? PA got corp's around from the start of its birth ?? omg who cares!11one Originally by: Lilan Kahn stop spureing crap over who left what, Pa to me wil always be a bunch of unwilling gits with no guts you don't even know PA if they have all new members so stfu and stop contradicting yourself, there is no need for this blatent smack. Other than the romainian ebaybirgade, and sold-it-on-ebayline I cant name another PA corp. oh that greek corp, they atleast try, props for that. The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such.
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.02.15 19:17:00 - [50] mhm.. i think the wolf bridage's pvp'ers have joined rkk --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA We do not go hunting, cuz hunting infers the possibility of failure.. We go killing...
Edoo	Posted - 2006.02.15 19:43:00 - [51] Originally by: Vince Draken Originally by: Edoo Edited by: Edoo on 15/02/2006 17:03:06 Originally by: Lilan Kahn PA got how many founding mebers left ?? PA got corp's around from the start of its birth ?? omg who cares!11one Originally by: Lilan Kahn stop spureing crap over who left what, Pa to me wil always be a bunch of unwilling gits with no guts you don't even know PA if they have all new members so stfu and stop contradicting yourself, there is no need for this blatent smack. Other than the romainian ebaybirgade, and sold-it-on-ebayline I cant name another PA corp. oh that greek corp, they atleast try, props for that. Thats rich coming from Ebay Technologies just joking.
Shittake	Posted - 2006.02.15 20:30:00 - [52] There's no need for all the hate in this thread. It's just a game. All alliances change, have member corps leave and new member corps join. It's happened to PA, NBSI, 5, FE . . all of them. How things reallign in the north after all the fighting is over is still unknown to any of us. I think it still goes back to a basic formula: Alliances who claim 0.0 space need mostly PvP with a bit of industrial muscle behind it.
GIGGLES	Posted - 2006.02.15 20:57:00 - [53] Either the original poster is a major whiner, or he's a .5./FE alt. The best way to break an alliance is through internal fighting. Forming another alliance would hurt PA very badly.
pacifica	Posted - 2006.02.15 21:04:00 - [54] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: pacifica Don t worry BoB alliance is on my What to do next list. But ATM my WHAT to Do LIST is pretty fill BoB is pending atm.... Soon will be on u Is that like when you were in Imperium and were going to destroy us right before we ripped your alliance a new one, took your region and booted you out of 0.0 space.... immediately prior to you running away as far as possible from us and joining PA? I don't think we'll be awfully worried about being on your to do list to be honest. Best of luck at not ditching PA and doing a runner though, you seem to be doing ok so far I give u a HighLight Blacklight we didn t leave Imperium we was Kick. I refuse to kick 1 mate that why BTW. Before Talking to much u should get information about what u talk Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
Sirrakhis	Posted - 2006.02.15 21:10:00 - [55] Hehe...alliances are only as persistent as their leaders. The activities of an alliance are reflected directly in its leaders goals and foresight in all aspects of the game. Without those leaders, even large groups of very experienced pilots tend to be little more than a highly effective mob...unruly and out of control. Council-run alliances will always be doomed to failure. All those PA people up here would have fared much much better had they simply formed under a different (and less resented) name. PA...NBSI... Look at it this way. Nearly every pvp allaince would/will shoot you on sight...whether or not they have a "no blue, shoot it" policy. You see, we're all quite anxious to move into a new era of the game, but its not your home if you're not fighting more it...and mostly I am hearing that neither of you are fighting all that hard for your land. FE got caught with their pants down, I don't particularly approve of Persh's decision to join the .5., but I understand it...if it had been my decision...I would have let .5. safe travel after a month of PA and NBSI "assisting" FE in the fight. ...just surprising you guys are even still alive. I'll stop babling now. Your Friendly Neighborhood Whip-*****er
Edoo	Posted - 2006.02.15 21:47:00 - [56] Originally by: Sirrakhis Hehe...alliances are only as persistent as their leaders. The activities of an alliance are reflected directly in its leaders goals and foresight in all aspects of the game. Without those leaders, even large groups of very experienced pilots tend to be little more than a highly effective mob...unruly and out of control. Council-run alliances will always be doomed to failure. All those PA people up here would have fared much much better had they simply formed under a different (and less resented) name. PA...NBSI... Look at it this way. Nearly every pvp allaince would/will shoot you on sight...whether or not they have a "no blue, shoot it" policy. You see, we're all quite anxious to move into a new era of the game, but its not your home if you're not fighting more it...and mostly I am hearing that neither of you are fighting all that hard for your land. FE got caught with their pants down, I don't particularly approve of Persh's decision to join the .5., but I understand it...if it had been my decision...I would have let .5. safe travel after a month of PA and NBSI "assisting" FE in the fight. ...just surprising you guys are even still alive. I'll stop babling now. You are pretty clueless. The first months of the war with [5], FE were NPCing and mining while PA/NBSI did the fighting. FE had managed to recruit some good PvP corps such as MLM/HUN/ROA who did most of the fighting, yet she took the glory for it. NBSI aren't fighting? lol.
Darcuese	Posted - 2006.02.15 21:51:00 - [57] Edited by: Darcuese on 15/02/2006 21:52:42 My 2 ISK Here I go.... I have been hearing stories about The 5 as bad boys before i joined them. Lots of stories have been made. But as Turboman said which i wont quote...iff ppl want constant PvP, why should that make them bad?? Over last several months i have been part of The 5 I can say one thing for sure... The 5 is like Garbage workers....we work hard to keep streets clean from trash/crap/S.H.I.T. In a way ppl should donate money to us for making this space a nicer place to live EDIT: PS PPl should also learn to cut some quotes in to their posts
pacifica	Posted - 2006.02.15 22:12:00 - [58] It easy to put the Blame on PA and NBSI... every thing was ok Until this thing... and Now pls take time to read. F-E was willing to Make PA and NBSI merge under F-E. We all refuse we didn t see why we was needed to merge when we was sharing space and stuff. So we refuse. Then the communaction start to be very bad.. My corp got banned in Tribute... and so on Now i ask any alliance to put their self in this situation You got your Allied that ask u help But 1 thing he didn t say to u is THIS WE ALOWED 2 OR 3 CORP THAT WILL KILL U IN OUR SPACE AND THEY CAN DOCK. So we did try to go help.. 1 of my mate see a KIA lol in a interceptor... he got the idee to follow him and try to gank him.... Surprize KIA dock and undock in a Battleship.... my mate run lol... now get real F-E did make u Belive we didn t try to help.... and u fall in that... It hard to help some one that plan to backstab u. Get the real Story.. I was on my friend TS when FE leader Jump and ask help i offer them my help they accept it. when i jump on their ts 1 persone say we need help to do this and then Pers jump in the room and say f*** U PACIFICA and i got baned..... explain me why..... So if u want to know the story listen top both Side before saying 1 is true..... FE and KAOS was turning around the Jar they wasn t able to go strait at the point... you call them honest not really KAOS even convo me 2 day before FE make their CHOICE.. here the convo.... --------------------------------------------------------------- Channel ID: 2104957794 Channel Name: Group Chat (ANN S, Ysabelle nKataros) Listener: pacifica Session started: 2006.01.26 00:39:30 --------------------------------------------------------------- [ 2006.01.26 00:39:30 ] ANN S > you convo him [ 2006.01.26 00:39:36 ] Ysabelle nKataros > hi [ 2006.01.26 00:39:50 ] ANN S > cya ysabelle be safe [ 2006.01.26 00:39:50 ] pacifica > hi [ 2006.01.26 00:39:54 ] pacifica > whats up [ 2006.01.26 00:40:11 ] Ysabelle nKataros > do I understand you've been delivered an ultimatum by The Five? [ 2006.01.26 00:40:19 ] Ysabelle nKataros > to leave Venal/Branch? [ 2006.01.26 00:40:25 ] pacifica > when [ 2006.01.26 00:40:33 ] pacifica > lol [ 2006.01.26 00:40:43 ] pacifica > we will not move we will fight them [ 2006.01.26 00:41:14 ] pacifica > the problem atm it h-pa we can t fight their the lagg is too much when u are in fleet [ 2006.01.26 00:41:44 ] Ysabelle nKataros > how far can you speak for the alliance as a whole? [ 2006.01.26 00:41:47 ] pacifica > we lost a pos cause for 24hrs we wasn t able to get inside GM move us 20 jump back [ 2006.01.26 00:41:58 ] pacifica > i can speak loud [ 2006.01.26 00:42:25 ] pacifica > i m not the leader but we share the same thing [ 2006.01.26 00:43:07 ] pacifica > why [ 2006.01.26 00:43:13 ] Ysabelle nKataros > ok. And does PA believe that it can reclaim Venal on its own? Without any assistance from FE? [ 2006.01.26 00:43:32 ] pacifica > we will go help FE for sure [ 2006.01.26 00:43:44 ] pacifica > venal it a question of time [ 2006.01.26 00:43:48 ] pacifica > atuk only hold h-pa [ 2006.01.26 00:43:55 ] pacifica > they can t go some where else [ 2006.01.26 00:43:56 ] Ysabelle nKataros > that's not what I'm saying... would you be able to beat 5 without FE? [ 2006.01.26 00:44:36 ] pacifica > we fight 5 every day [ 2006.01.26 00:44:49 ] pacifica > it will be ard task to beat them [ 2006.01.26 00:44:53 ] pacifica > hard* [ 2006.01.26 00:45:09 ] pacifica > cause when you stuck them in a system they log off and log their alt [ 2006.01.26 00:45:15 ] pacifica > so it hard [ 2006.01.26 00:45:32 ] Ysabelle nKataros > yes 1 of 2 Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
pacifica	Posted - 2006.02.15 22:14:00 - [59] 01.26 00:45:15 ] pacifica > so it hard [ 2006.01.26 00:45:32 ] Ysabelle nKataros > yes [ 2006.01.26 00:45:33 ] pacifica > fleet in h-pa is not a option [ 2006.01.26 00:45:44 ] pacifica > you will lose your fleet due to lag [ 2006.01.26 00:45:58 ] pacifica > they have 1 advantage [ 2006.01.26 00:46:08 ] pacifica > they sleep in h-pa they got position [ 2006.01.26 00:46:20 ] pacifica > you cannot jump in the system [ 2006.01.26 00:46:26 ] pacifica > if u do [ 2006.01.26 00:46:29 ] Ysabelle nKataros > heh, I know [ 2006.01.26 00:46:39 ] Ysabelle nKataros > I've fought them there [ 2006.01.26 00:46:46 ] pacifica > i hate h-pa [ 2006.01.26 00:46:59 ] pacifica > for that the node is connected with a busy empire system [ 2006.01.26 00:47:17 ] pacifica > so as soon local fill up over 120 it finish [ 2006.01.26 00:48:00 ] pacifica > pa will get back their space soon it a question of time [ 2006.01.26 00:48:21 ] Ysabelle nKataros > I understand [ 2006.01.26 00:48:34 ] Ysabelle nKataros > I need to speak to some other people, thanks for your time. [ 2006.01.26 00:48:41 ] pacifica > why [ 2006.01.26 00:48:50 ] pacifica > what your plan [ 2006.01.26 00:49:33 ] Ysabelle nKataros > well it involves killing The Five, that's all I can say for the moment :P [ 2006.01.26 00:49:33 ] pacifica > i tell u the name [ 2006.01.26 00:49:45 ] Ysabelle nKataros > the name of what? [ 2006.01.26 00:49:49 ] pacifica > el covah [ 2006.01.26 00:49:56 ] pacifica > or pedro [ 2006.01.26 00:50:03 ] pacifica > pedroftw [ 2006.01.26 00:50:39 ] pacifica > they are not online atm [ 2006.01.26 00:50:56 ] Ysabelle nKataros > what do I need the names for? [ 2006.01.26 00:51:07 ] pacifica > they are PA leader [ 2006.01.26 00:51:20 ] pacifica > ok i will be straut [ 2006.01.26 00:51:27 ] pacifica > you want venal for your alliance [ 2006.01.26 00:51:39 ] pacifica > i m fair talk atm [ 2006.01.26 00:51:46 ] pacifica > we will nt turn aroun [ 2006.01.26 00:52:07 ] pacifica > is this why u want to talk to a pa leader [ 2006.01.26 00:52:17 ] Ysabelle nKataros > not really [ 2006.01.26 00:52:21 ] pacifica > ok [ 2006.01.26 00:52:30 ] pacifica > i m starit atm lol [ 2006.01.26 00:52:39 ] Ysabelle nKataros > starit? [ 2006.01.26 00:52:48 ] pacifica > i speak bad english [ 2006.01.26 00:52:52 ] pacifica > sorry [ 2006.01.26 00:53:00 ] pacifica > strait [ 2006.01.26 00:53:06 ] Ysabelle nKataros > ah thanks [ 2006.01.26 00:53:10 ] pacifica > or talk fair without big turn [ 2006.01.26 00:53:37 ] pacifica > atm FE will need help i think [ 2006.01.26 00:53:43 ] pacifica > i hate atuk [ 2006.01.26 00:54:21 ] Ysabelle nKataros > we've got that in common ;-) [ 2006.01.26 00:54:27 ] Ysabelle nKataros > I have to go find some other people now [ 2006.01.26 00:55:07 ] pacifica > but can i know your plan [ 2006.01.26 00:55:08 ] Ysabelle nKataros > thanks for helping me [ 2006.01.26 00:55:21 ] Ysabelle nKataros > it's too up in the air [ 2006.01.26 00:55:35 ] Ysabelle nKataros > we haven't made any decisions so it'd be kind of pointless telling you anything [ 2006.01.26 00:55:51 ] pacifica > just give me a clue [ 2006.01.26 00:55:53 ] Ysabelle nKataros > suffice to say that currently we're rolling with FE [ 2006.01.26 00:56:00 ] Ysabelle nKataros > what FE wants, we want. [ 2006.01.26 00:56:07 ] pacifica > what FE want atm [ 2006.01.26 00:56:08 ] pacifica > venal [ 2006.01.26 00:56:13 ] pacifica > branch [ 2006.01.26 00:56:15 ] pacifica > tenal [ 2006.01.26 00:56:19 ] pacifica > pa merge [ 2006.01.26 00:56:24 ] pacifica > no way [ 2006.01.26 00:57:47 ] Ysabelle nKataros > ok, thanks for letting me know that [ 2006.01.26 00:58:42 ] Ysabelle nKataros > other convos. Thanks again for your time. Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
Metal Dude	Posted - 2006.02.15 22:23:00 - [60] Edited by: Metal Dude on 15/02/2006 22:28:09 I find it amusing that FE/PA/NBSI are bickering with each other about whoÆs to blame for all their troubles. You were so quick to declare war on [5] when RA(T) was telling you that we were all but dead and then when we came to shoot you in your space, RA(T) was nowhere to be found to help you, like you helped them in our space. So technically, all of you did the dirty work for RA(T) and took the heat from us because RA(T) fooled you in to this war. If anybody is to blame for your troubles, itÆs RA(T). Then again, IÆm sure they will allow you to be their mining slaves if you ask them nicely. The truth will set you free * Proud to be ATUK *
Darcuese	Posted - 2006.02.15 22:31:00 - [61] Edited by: Darcuese on 15/02/2006 22:32:31 Pacifica...can you please try explain what you tried to prove with that log? Guy convo you and ask you something...you were whining about how HPA is laggy...he asked you again same question...you continued to whine again about Atuk and lag.lol And then he asked to talked with someone else from PA cause he understude that all he will be hearing from you will be only whine...and not answer he asked in a first place
pacifica	Posted - 2006.02.15 22:32:00 - [62] Edited by: pacifica on 15/02/2006 22:34:27 even lag on forum Double POST Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
pacifica	Posted - 2006.02.15 22:32:00 - [63] Originally by: Metal Dude I find it amusing that FE/PA/NBSI are bickering with each other about whoÆs to blame for all their troubles. You were so quick to declare war on [5] when RA(T) was telling you that we were all but dead and then when we came to your shoot you in your space, RA(T) was nowhere to be found to help you, like you helped them in our space. So technically, all of you did the dirty work for RA(T) and took the heat from us because RA(T) fooled you in to this war. If anybody is to blame for your troubles, itÆs RA(T). Then again, IÆm sure they will allow you to be their mining slaves if you ask them nicely. Not Really Red Alliance didn t ask us to war deck u.. i was on the meeting for that war.... was a idee OF 3 ALLIANCE all WILLING to do IT.... F-E,PA & NBSI At lease i m Proud of PA & NBSI.. We refuse the offer to cancel war FE accepted We refuse To NAP u FE did accept look at the number in FE was 2000+ member but they nap u so quick afraid to lose D7-ZAC.... Look at PA and NBSI number we Refuse every thing that Five propose US We fight u every day getting some kill getting some lose..... even if we lose our space we will fight until the end and we will refuse any deal with FIVE... That 1 thing that our ALLIED know we KEPT OUR WORDS. eve is a game. i can t die for real... And why start a other alliance that will have some new corp and old corp OF PA in it..... PA is a nice name and a old one i m proud of it. Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
pacifica	Posted - 2006.02.15 22:38:00 - [64] Originally by: Darcuese Edited by: Darcuese on 15/02/2006 22:32:31 Pacifica...can you please try explain what you tried to prove with that log? Guy convo you and ask you something...you were whining about how HPA is laggy...he asked you again same question...you continued to whine again about Atuk and lag.lol And then he asked to talked with someone else from PA cause he understude that all he will be hearing from you will be only whine...and not answer he asked in a first place read the top ligne they was thinking we agree to leave tenal/branch/venal to u but you can t read well i think bye enouf forum thing today let do some killing in game Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
pershphanie	Posted - 2006.02.15 23:04:00 - [65] Originally by: pacifica We refuse the offer to cancel war FE accepted We refuse To NAP u FE did accept Look at PA and NBSI number we Refuse every thing that Five propose US Yep. You refuse to fight. You refuse to defend your space.
pacifica	Posted - 2006.02.15 23:22:00 - [66] Edited by: pacifica on 15/02/2006 23:22:39 Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: pacifica We refuse the offer to cancel war FE accepted We refuse To NAP u FE did accept Look at PA and NBSI number we Refuse every thing that Five propose US Yep. You refuse to fight. You refuse to defend your space. Not really we was doing the job U still mad at me be honest you use your Alliance for your personel use when you baned SOLID from Tribute... U think we wasn t Fighting but look the killboard of Five in that time. you Blame the H-PA incident did u forget to tell the Other PPL u was beginnng Help on their ts TO SAY U TURN 50+ BS from PA back to refit... in H-PA... u say we wasn t willing to help that day in the morning we was killing some ATUK u guys log on ask a gang and we sit in POS for 3hrs----- after that PA GO REFIT LONG RANG..... ATUK was LONG RANGE i don t want to play a CowBoy duel at 200km of each other both in optimum and start losing ppl both side... OURS Communication end that day.... when your enemey is Long Range fight them close range... FE didn t have a lot of ppl in tech 2 gun atuk are 3/4 all tech 2 so 60v60 long range = 1 will be *****and it not me If u FE did want NBSI and PA to assit u better in H-PA and was willing to work with us. At lease we did should take the time to talk and explain what we will do... no 1 minutes plan..... Pers u make Mistake and u can t Admit it... Take a Man to say yes i did so mistake... i don t say either PA was all ok in that yes PA did some mistake we let ATUK install their self in H-PA but it hard to be at 2 place at the time... RISK was keping us busy in the same time ATUK was moving Troop in H-PA..... So i m not perfect i did make some mistake but i thing i will never betrade my friend To save our space.... Prefer to loose it and retake it later... over and out.. BTW FE if u was fighting alone that mean PA or NBSI should not have KillMail in H-PA look the stat PA got a lot of KILLMAIL in H-PA oktksbye Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
Lorth	Posted - 2006.02.15 23:32:00 - [67] Pacifica, PA didn't fight. I've looked at the 5 kill board, I would suggest you do so your self. Here's how to do it if your not sure. Go to 'world war eve' find your self the date where the FE nap took place. Now strat scrolling back a day, then anouther, and anouther and so on. You'll start to see a very surprising pattern, since the killboard displays the allience. FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE And on and on and on. Stop and look at each PA kill you come across, you'll see they either had mining lasers, or an NPC fitting (as evidenced by the loot in thier cargo.) Almost in no incident do you ever see a PA kill in which the person had anything like looked like it could be a PVP fit at all. While I'm forumer [5], I know that if anyone ever bothered to look at the five's kilboard I don't see any possible way they can say that PA fought at all in this war. I have no personal stake in your flame fest with F-E, but i'm certain that anyone who bothers to look at five's kills will see just how little PA was there.
Estilo	Posted - 2006.02.15 23:32:00 - [68] I propose we start doing a muppet of the week. points are spread like this on a scale of 1(decent)-10(uber/l33t) fiarrrr da alt powahhh btw eve/eve-othreads are a form of amusement, doesnt change the price of beer in asda. if u lose one follicle of hair cuz of eve..****oo to u
pacifica	Posted - 2006.02.15 23:44:00 - [69] Originally by: Lorth Pacifica, PA didn't fight. I've looked at the 5 kill board, I would suggest you do so your self. Here's how to do it if your not sure. Go to 'world war eve' find your self the date where the FE nap took place. Now strat scrolling back a day, then anouther, and anouther and so on. You'll start to see a very surprising pattern, since the killboard displays the allience. FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE And on and on and on. Stop and look at each PA kill you come across, you'll see they either had mining lasers, or an NPC fitting (as evidenced by the loot in thier cargo.) Almost in no incident do you ever see a PA kill in which the person had anything like looked like it could be a PVP fit at all. While I'm forumer [5], I know that if anyone ever bothered to look at the five's kilboard I don't see any possible way they can say that PA fought at all in this war. I have no personal stake in your flame fest with F-E, but i'm certain that anyone who bothers to look at five's kills will see just how little PA was there. mathematic calculation count now :) but look closely the killboard BTW u left .5. 2000 member FE 800 member PA look the ratio OK and i did pass 2 week in h-pa was always around 10-20 PA member when i was their at lease... Some time we did get a fight Some time we was waiting all days cause .5. didn t undock or having the number... Get Real FE Side of the Story PA side of the story Mix it it give this ..... FE and PA Communication and Planning was totaly wrong... inexistant.... ligne was busy no answer both side .... BOTH SIDE that mean i say that PA did make a mistake and Did Admit it.... I don t Think ATUK 1 day at 1 moment say ok we go kill a POS in that system 10 jump away u fly their and when their u ask supremacy bring your self here we need u now... but you don t tell them what u will do and when they come you make them wait and say supremacy go refit and come back...... btw that is a exemple oktksbye Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
The Clash	Posted - 2006.02.15 23:49:00 - [70] Originally by: Vince Draken Originally by: Edoo Edited by: Edoo on 15/02/2006 17:03:06 Originally by: Lilan Kahn PA got how many founding mebers left ?? PA got corp's around from the start of its birth ?? omg who cares!11one Originally by: Lilan Kahn stop spureing crap over who left what, Pa to me wil always be a bunch of unwilling gits with no guts you don't even know PA if they have all new members so stfu and stop contradicting yourself, there is no need for this blatent smack. Other than the romainian ebaybirgade, and sold-it-on-ebayline I cant name another PA corp. oh that greek corp, they atleast try, props for that. Oh like KIATolon from yer alliance ? _________________ You can suck my battleship.
Mangus Thermopyle	Posted - 2006.02.16 00:03:00 - [71] I dont think anyone will be very sad to see NBSI and PA go belly up. They messed up bigime by first wardecing Five 'for fun', and then leaving their home to go gank miners down south when it turned out that fighting Five wasnt as fun as it was supposed to be. Alliances like that should not be allowed to claim space, and soon that problem will be taken care of
Lorth	Posted - 2006.02.16 00:09:00 - [72] Originally by: pacifica mathematic calculation count now :) but look closely the killboard BTW u left .5. 2000 member FE 800 member PA look the ratio OK and i did pass 2 week in h-pa was always around 10-20 PA member when i was their at lease... Some time we did get a fight Some time we was waiting all days cause .5. didn t undock or having the number... Get Real FE Side of the Story PA side of the story Mix it it give this ..... FE and PA Communication and Planning was totaly wrong... inexistant.... ligne was busy no answer both side .... BOTH SIDE that mean i say that PA did make a mistake and Did Admit it.... I don t Think ATUK 1 day at 1 moment say ok we go kill a POS in that system 10 jump away u fly their and when their u ask supremacy bring your self here we need u now... but you don t tell them what u will do and when they come you make them wait and say supremacy go refit and come back...... btw that is a exemple oktksbye Ok so I did the math. The ratio is about 3:1 in FE's favour, and I'm being generous. Now could you please explain to me why FE has lost somewhere in the region of 10-20 times more ships then Pa has? And espesially considering that H-Pa was much closer to Pa's home system, and was actually used as a base of opperations before [5] moved in. It would seem to me that given the very few numbers of PA ships killed in that area, you were not in fact fighting at all, or at least in such an small force as to be considered very insignificant. No no matter how you try to do the 'maths' FE still lost a but load more ships then you did. Per pilot, per corp, in total, it doesn't matter. Its pretty self evident that they were there, and you weren't. No right thinking individual could say other wise. Nor does having 10 pilots in space constitue a fighting force. Especially whne those 10 pilots belong to an allience that has 800 memebers. Thats not even 2% of your allience, and you still claim to have been activly fighting [5]? If it were that way FA would still be claiming foutain. Come on, your allience has at least double the numbers of ATUK, yet they can single handely out blob you at thier whim? I don't care to really hear either side of the story, nor to I care to hear who's fault this all was. Though I have seen the killboard, as well as fraps, and screen shots. Every fleet was comprised of FE, and more FE. Nearly every loss in this whole war has been felt by FE. And how dare you come to the forums and out right lie to the eve community by claiming that PA were activly engaged in combat.
jernej	Posted - 2006.02.16 00:35:00 - [73] Originally by: Lorth Pacifica, PA didn't fight. I've looked at the 5 kill board, I would suggest you do so your self. Here's how to do it if your not sure. Go to 'world war eve' find your self the date where the FE nap took place. Now strat scrolling back a day, then anouther, and anouther and so on. You'll start to see a very surprising pattern, since the killboard displays the allience. FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE FE And on and on and on. Stop and look at each PA kill you come across, you'll see they either had mining lasers, or an NPC fitting (as evidenced by the loot in thier cargo.) Almost in no incident do you ever see a PA kill in which the person had anything like looked like it could be a PVP fit at all. While I'm forumer [5], I know that if anyone ever bothered to look at the five's kilboard I don't see any possible way they can say that PA fought at all in this war. I have no personal stake in your flame fest with F-E, but i'm certain that anyone who bothers to look at five's kills will see just how little PA was there. I don't know how much these statistics are worth... ************************************* AllianceNBSI Alliance Score 263397 Kills 928.50 Score Lost509350 Losses 2334.00 *********************************** AllianceThe Forsaken Empire Score 491674 Kills 1904.50 Score Lost2040220 Losses 9398.00 *********************************** AllianceThe Phoenix Alliance Score 260926 Kills 1050.88 Score Lost1198255 Losses 4530.00 ************************************* http://fiveblack.killboard.podzone.net/showAlliance.php?id=201 http://fiveblack.killboard.podzone.net/showAlliance.php?id=211 http://fiveblack.killboard.podzone.net/showAlliance.php?id=280 But for a dead carebear alliance PA did OK
pershphanie	Posted - 2006.02.16 00:43:00 - [74] Tbh numbers are meaningless. You pa guys need to realize that while flying around in a gang of a few frigates and try and get a gank is loads of fun it doesnt actually do any harm. If someone moves into one of your core systems ganking them in a shuttle in empire does not effect that. There was no pa/nbsi strategy on how to go about removing the5. You decided to hide behind FE and let us do all the work while you zoomed around in frigates. We did everything we could to try and get pa/nbsi involved in that but you just assumed we would handle your problems for you. Well now you made your bed, time to die in it.
Lorth	Posted - 2006.02.16 00:45:00 - [75] Take a look at pages 30 through to 100 to see what I mean.
Vince Draken	Posted - 2006.02.16 01:38:00 - [76] Edited by: Vince Draken on 16/02/2006 01:38:58 Originally by: The Clash Originally by: Vince Draken Originally by: Edoo Edited by: Edoo on 15/02/2006 17:03:06 Originally by: Lilan Kahn PA got how many founding mebers left ?? PA got corp's around from the start of its birth ?? omg who cares!11one Originally by: Lilan Kahn stop spureing crap over who left what, Pa to me wil always be a bunch of unwilling gits with no guts you don't even know PA if they have all new members so stfu and stop contradicting yourself, there is no need for this blatent smack. Other than the romainian ebaybirgade, and sold-it-on-ebayline I cant name another PA corp. oh that greek corp, they atleast try, props for that. Oh like KIATolon from yer alliance ? Hey, did you ever look at the Sell forum? Yeah, there are like 20 characters up for sale now junior. I suggest you find the WTB section and start asking for some clues. And btw, you use to be able to transfer accounts between players before they put the character swapping function in. Did you know that? All you had to do was email ccp to let them know. get a clue junior The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such.
pacifica	Posted - 2006.02.16 02:05:00 - [77] Originally by: pershphanie Tbh numbers are meaningless. You pa guys need to realize that while flying around in a gang of a few frigates and try and get a gank is loads of fun it doesnt actually do any harm. If someone moves into one of your core systems ganking them in a shuttle in empire does not effect that. There was no pa/nbsi strategy on how to go about removing the5. You decided to hide behind FE and let us do all the work while you zoomed around in frigates. We did everything we could to try and get pa/nbsi involved in that but you just assumed we would handle your problems for you. Well now you made your bed, time to die in it. You got a Big EGO we never hide behind u Get real and say the true you did get power Hungry.... the way u find to get ride of ATUK was easier (The NAP button)..... if we can t defend our space explain to me why KAOS wasn t able to claim S-E.... did u plan or did like in H-PA last minute planing.... My point is this FE did fight ATUK in H-PA PA did fight ATUK in H-PA F-E fail under presure we didn t... F-E did go on every ppl ts asking for help... like this : - (We will see our real friend) that was the words i ear ..... PA did try to get GOOD COMM and Planing with F-E but U close the door cause Your EGO was to high... I take guts to admit our Mistake it easy to stay Stuborn and think we are King of the Hill... Even if u destroy PA my task will be to annoye u until F-E disband........ u Join the Side of .5. Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
StiZum Hilidii	Posted - 2006.02.16 02:08:00 - [78] Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 16/02/2006 02:09:13 "My point is this FE did fight ATUK in H-PA PA did fight ATUK in H-PA F-E fail under presure we didn t.." taken from man above (stupid quote cant be bothered with it) that made me spill my cornflakes putting your head in the sand wont make us go away. btw didnt pa lose its prime minister or something tonight. where can we welcome pa mk5/6 STAN FACTA NON VERBA THE ALPS SUCKED BTW
Vince Draken	Posted - 2006.02.16 02:23:00 - [79] Originally by: pacifica the way u find to get ride of ATUK was easier (The NAP button)..... somewhere in your misguided journey you seem to think we hand out naps to ppl that dont deserve them. do you think there was ever a chance for PA to get one? The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such.
pacifica	Posted - 2006.02.16 02:28:00 - [80] Originally by: StiZum Hilidii Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 16/02/2006 02:09:13 "My point is this FE did fight ATUK in H-PA PA did fight ATUK in H-PA F-E fail under presure we didn t.." taken from man above (stupid quote cant be bothered with it) that made me spill my cornflakes putting your head in the sand wont make us go away. btw didnt pa lose its prime minister or something tonight. where can we welcome pa mk5/6 Humm u make me Laff so much lol yes PA have a new leader but 1 thing Real life Pass First... EvE is only a Game U wasn t here when FE make the deal with your Alliance... taken from man above (stupid quote cant be bothered with it) lol same thing to u Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
pacifica	Posted - 2006.02.16 02:34:00 - [81] Edited by: pacifica on 16/02/2006 02:34:41 Originally by: Vince Draken Originally by: pacifica the way u find to get ride of ATUK was easier (The NAP button)..... somewhere in your misguided journey you seem to think we hand out naps to ppl that dont deserve them. do you think there was ever a chance for PA to get one? Do u think we will Accept it.... get real yes u offer us a nap and we refuse IT ask your leader or u want me to get the forum POST of your leader http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=282364 before saying some thing get a clue Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.02.16 02:35:00 - [82] PA failed under pressure the day they accepted we controlled even 1 system in the area they claimed, and you, like everyone else here knows there is nothing you can do about it.. (and that was long b4 F-E/.5.'s NAP) after that words are all PA have had left.. and the thing about words is they are useless without actions.. --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA We do not go hunting, cuz hunting infers the possibility of failure.. We go killing...
StiZum Hilidii	Posted - 2006.02.16 02:36:00 - [83] ofc this is only a game and your right i way away in the alps when this deal was done. but tbh i probably would have made the same deal. PA are an alliance built on 1 failed leader after another. dude if you wanna be an f-e/5 fanboy you only have to ask your constant winning about how pa got done over doesnt seem to me to smell of honour more of fustration. dont worry they created places for corps like your own. it has npc's to protect you. now run along STAN FACTA NON VERBA THE ALPS SUCKED BTW
StiZum Hilidii	Posted - 2006.02.16 02:37:00 - [84] http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=282364 also if you think thats a proper nap then really dude you have no idea about eve STAN FACTA NON VERBA THE ALPS SUCKED BTW
Amthrianius	Posted - 2006.02.16 02:44:00 - [85] As the leader of The Five i can firmly say no nap was offered by us towards The Phoenix Alliance ---------------
Vince Draken	Posted - 2006.02.16 02:47:00 - [86] Edited by: Vince Draken on 16/02/2006 02:47:08 Stan's effectivly taken this thread. GG What no PA nap? We are doomed The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such.
pacifica	Posted - 2006.02.16 05:53:00 - [87] lol U guys are a JOKE I never think of joining i fight Atuk since a long time when u guys was only 65 member. U think u are uber and u are the only one that can speak. u guys EGO are big too... Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
BOldMan	Posted - 2006.02.16 07:35:00 - [88] It is interesting how 3 former allies use an enemie's killboard to do the math and argue. Originally by: Treacle Shazboat Trying to buy from the market. The buy window is blank. Try to send a petition dropped me to the desktop.
Mallik Hendrake	Posted - 2006.02.16 08:05:00 - [89] All other wars aside, PA is definitely losing the War of Grammar and Coherent Sentences. Can you guys put a little time into your writing to make it readable, instead of trying to outpost .5. by sheer volume? You cannot defeat their forum fu anyway, might as well try to look less ridiculous while getting owned. -------------------------------------------- "A plan is just a list of things that don't happen." -- Parker, _The Way of the Gun_ Mallik Hendrake E X O D U S [I do not speak for E X O or IRON]
Edoo	Posted - 2006.02.16 10:10:00 - [90] Originally by: Mallik Hendrake All other wars aside, PA is definitely losing the War of Grammar and Coherent Sentences. Can you guys put a little time into your writing to make it readable, instead of trying to outpost .5. by sheer volume? You cannot defeat their forum fu anyway, might as well try to look less ridiculous while getting owned. He's not english you ass wipe
Malicious Wraith	Posted - 2006.02.16 12:17:00 - [91] Originally by: Iberi Originally by: Edoo F-E are going down so don't worry Wow! Everybody knows how brave are docked NBSI carebears. For you and your alliance better to keep silence. Iberi, NBSI is well known for quite the opposite.
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.02.16 12:23:00 - [92] Originally by: Malicious Wraith Originally by: Iberi Originally by: Edoo F-E are going down so don't worry Wow! Everybody knows how brave are docked NBSI carebears. For you and your alliance better to keep silence. Iberi, NBSI is well known for quite the opposite. LOL.. keep telling urself that --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA We do not go hunting, cuz hunting infers the possibility of failure.. We go killing...
Edoo	Posted - 2006.02.16 12:29:00 - [93] Just check our killboards is all i can say. We kill proportionally a lot more than F-E considering they have 4-5 times our numbers.
pershphanie	Posted - 2006.02.16 12:34:00 - [94] Edited by: pershphanie on 16/02/2006 12:34:37 Originally by: Edoo Just check our killboards is all i can say. We kill proportionally a lot more than F-E considering they have 4-5 times our numbers. So then killing a hostile shuttle in jita is = killing a hostile BS seiging one of your allies main systems? You need to try out for the special olympics. There is more to wars than getting the most kills. Zooming around empire in frigates doesnt win wars.
Tycalos	Posted - 2006.02.16 12:38:00 - [95] Originally by: B orange Let me bring some light into this: Sacra Nomina are a bunch of miners usually making a lot of money (RL ones too).. We mine we hunt we kill five !!! that is our motto If we sell ISK means someone buy them .... so lets see what players r doing pvp everyday without to mine/hunt .... OOMMMGGGG noooo!!! Five r buy'ing isk from ebay the only conclusion. I dont care about rest of the smack from this topik ... my mate was drunk when he posted and his post like mine to dont reprezent our corp goals!
teh pR3acH3r	Posted - 2006.02.16 12:39:00 - [96] Originally by: pershphanie Edited by: pershphanie on 16/02/2006 12:34:37 Originally by: Edoo Just check our killboards is all i can say. We kill proportionally a lot more than F-E considering they have 4-5 times our numbers. So then killing a hostile shuttle in jita is = killing a hostile BS seiging one of your allies main systems? You need to try out for the special olympics. There is more to wars than getting the most kills. Zooming around empire in frigates doesnt win wars. Here's a hint persh: Since Jan 31 2006 NBSI has killed 15 FE shuttles and 76 FE Battleships OMG NO WAI! flame more pls, I have 10 hours still at work and I need some entertainment. _________________________________
pershphanie	Posted - 2006.02.16 12:40:00 - [97] Edited by: pershphanie on 16/02/2006 12:43:05 Originally by: teh pR3acH3r Originally by: pershphanie Edited by: pershphanie on 16/02/2006 12:34:37 Originally by: Edoo Just check our killboards is all i can say. We kill proportionally a lot more than F-E considering they have 4-5 times our numbers. So then killing a hostile shuttle in jita is = killing a hostile BS seiging one of your allies main systems? You need to try out for the special olympics. There is more to wars than getting the most kills. Zooming around empire in frigates doesnt win wars. Here's a hint persh: Since Jan 31 2006 NBSI has killed 15 FE shuttles and 76 FE Battleships OMG NO WAI! flame more pls, I have 10 hours still at work and I need some entertainment. And that has to do with what? Do you think it makes you look any better that now you can pull together fleets when before you were unwilling to? all that does is prove what everyone knows. It wasnt that you were not able to fight before, you just thought FE would do all the hard work while you guys ran around ganking people.
Antoinette Civari	Posted - 2006.02.16 12:42:00 - [98] Originally by: Tycalos We mine we hunt we kill five !!! that is our motto You seem to be pretty ineffective when it comes to the hunting and killing part though.
teh pR3acH3r	Posted - 2006.02.16 12:43:00 - [99] Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: teh pR3acH3r Originally by: pershphanie Edited by: pershphanie on 16/02/2006 12:34:37 Originally by: Edoo Just check our killboards is all i can say. We kill proportionally a lot more than F-E considering they have 4-5 times our numbers. So then killing a hostile shuttle in jita is = killing a hostile BS seiging one of your allies main systems? You need to try out for the special olympics. There is more to wars than getting the most kills. Zooming around empire in frigates doesnt win wars. Here's a hint persh: Since Jan 31 2006 NBSI has killed 15 FE shuttles and 76 FE Battleships OMG NO WAI! flame more pls, I have 10 hours still at work and I need some entertainment. And that has to do with what? Ummm...how about your insinuation that NBSI only kills shuttles zooming around empire in frgates? Learn2Read your own posts. _________________________________
pershphanie	Posted - 2006.02.16 12:44:00 - [100] Originally by: teh pR3acH3r And that has to do with what? Ummm...how about your insinuation that NBSI only kills shuttles zooming around empire in frgates? Learn2Read your own posts. I said that's what you were doing while FE was fighting the 5.
teh pR3acH3r	Posted - 2006.02.16 12:47:00 - [101] Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: teh pR3acH3r And that has to do with what? Ummm...how about your insinuation that NBSI only kills shuttles zooming around empire in frgates? Learn2Read your own posts. I said that's what you were doing while FE was fighting the 5. Actually you quoted Edoo...and he didnt say anything about what NBSI was doing while FE was fighting 5. _________________________________
pershphanie	Posted - 2006.02.16 12:51:00 - [102] Originally by: teh pR3acH3r Edited by: teh pR3acH3r on 16/02/2006 12:49:12 Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: teh pR3acH3r And that has to do with what? Ummm...how about your insinuation that NBSI only kills shuttles zooming around empire in frgates? Learn2Read your own posts. I said that's what you were doing while FE was fighting the 5. Actually you quoted Edoo...and he didnt say anything about what NBSI was doing while FE was fighting 5. Hurry go edit something! Actually thats exactly what he said. but none of this matters now. We are going to take great pleasure in removing you from the north.
Edoo	Posted - 2006.02.16 12:51:00 - [103] Originally by: pershphanie And that has to do with what? Do you think it makes you look any better that now you can pull together fleets when before you were unwilling to? all that does is prove what everyone knows. It wasnt that you were not able to fight before, you just thought FE would do all the hard work while you guys ran around ganking people. I think the point is he totally disproved your useless smack.
Edoo	Posted - 2006.02.16 12:53:00 - [104] Originally by: pershphanie Actually thats exactly what he said. but none of this matters now. We are going to take great pleasure in removing you from the north. tbh pers i said nothing of the sort
pershphanie	Posted - 2006.02.16 12:54:00 - [105] Edited by: pershphanie on 16/02/2006 12:55:10 Originally by: Edoo Originally by: pershphanie Actually thats exactly what he said. but none of this matters now. We are going to take great pleasure in removing you from the north. tbh pers i said nothing of the sort Really? So when you said "Just check our killboards is all i can say. We kill proportionally a lot more than F-E considering they have 4-5 times our numbers." you were talking about some other war? making a little eye rolly face thing on every post doesnt make anything you say more believable.
Edoo	Posted - 2006.02.16 12:58:00 - [106] Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: Edoo Originally by: pershphanie Actually thats exactly what he said. but none of this matters now. We are going to take great pleasure in removing you from the north. tbh pers i said nothing of the sort Really? So when you said "Just check our killboards is all i can say. We kill proportionally a lot more than F-E considering they have 4-5 times our numbers." you were talking about some other war? I wasn't talking about F-E fighting 5, i was talking about NBSI's current level of PvP activity in relation to F-E's, in response to Thoth's comment that we don't undock. My words are what i say, not what you twist them to mean.
pershphanie	Posted - 2006.02.16 13:02:00 - [107] Originally by: Edoo I wasn't talking about F-E fighting 5, i was talking about NBSI's current level of PvP activity in relation to F-E's, in response to Thoth's comment that we don't undock. My words are what i say, not what you twist them to mean. Well all I've got to say about that is - too little too late. You had your chance to survive, but now its time to die.
TURBOman	Posted - 2006.02.16 13:09:00 - [108] Great... now I don't know even what was I saying :/ Linkage Your sig is too large, please reduce it's size and have the ladies in it give me a call - Ductoris
teh pR3acH3r	Posted - 2006.02.16 13:09:00 - [109] Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: Edoo I wasn't talking about F-E fighting 5, i was talking about NBSI's current level of PvP activity in relation to F-E's, in response to Thoth's comment that we don't undock. My words are what i say, not what you twist them to mean. Well all I've got to say about that is - too little too late. You had your chance to survive, but now its time to die. yaaaarrrrrrrr all ive got to say about this is lol! _________________________________
FireFoxx80	Posted - 2006.02.16 13:11:00 - [110] Originally by: Gilie In the past month the hole noth area has turned in to a chaos region FE allied with .5 and gone to war with x friends PA/NBSI. It's actually quite peachy in Deklein and Fade at the moment. Consider your sig tainted, and all your alcohol stolen - Wrangler Beer=Beer+3
zcinner	Posted - 2006.02.16 13:33:00 - [111] Originally by: Iberi Originally by: Edoo F-E are going down so don't worry Wow! Everybody knows how brave are docked NBSI carebears. For you and your alliance better to keep silence. i have fighted NBSI and F-E.. and i would say NBSI gave us more targets and more fights F-E gave us zydrine and mining ravens... its true i got it all on fraps mining ravens!
pacifica	Posted - 2006.02.16 13:43:00 - [112] Originally by: Mallik Hendrake All other wars aside, PA is definitely losing the War of Grammar and Coherent Sentences. Can you guys put a little time into your writing to make it readable, instead of trying to outpost .5. by sheer volume? You cannot defeat their forum fu anyway, might as well try to look less ridiculous while getting owned. I m Sorry i can t type english well so for now on. i will never POST on eve-o forum. English ppl don t like how we type. they don t respect other ppl language. At lease we try to type in english to obey the forum rule. Only big EGO ppl know how to comment.... btw i speak 3 language type 1 without mistake and the 2 other i don t care at lease i speak it... Now new Rule on this Forum we are not allowed to make mistake Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
TURBOman	Posted - 2006.02.16 14:00:00 - [113] Well... i was pretty active ingame from pa/nbsi/f-e war dec on .5. and was fighting/ganking pa/f-e and i must say that only time PA put up some resistance is when we came to 6nj in hacs/frigs they would come out with antihac bs's and jamming scorps outnumbering us 3:1... both PA/F-E got ganked all the same tbh, but F-E was atleast trying to fight back. Not like PA lol, I remember how while we sieged 6nj, before the war dec, PA came with 80-90ppl to fight us, and after they had to warp out few times they jumped out of the sys and put up a bubble and started smacking in local how they are keeping us trapped in their base system lol And pacifica don't act all down cuz they're mentioning your english, it's not cuz of your grammar people are bashing you, it's the idiocy that glows out of you... Linkage [Yellow]Your sig is too large, please reduce it's size and have the ladies in it give me a call - Ductoris[/Yello
Edoo	Posted - 2006.02.16 14:06:00 - [114] Originally by: TURBOman Well... i was pretty active ingame from pa/nbsi/f-e war dec on .5. and was fighting/ganking pa/f-e and i must say that only time PA put up some resistance is when we came to 6nj in hacs/frigs they would come out with antihac bs's and jamming scorps outnumbering us 3:1... both PA/F-E got ganked all the same tbh, but F-E was atleast trying to fight back. Not like PA lol, I remember how while we sieged 6nj, before the war dec, PA came with 80-90ppl to fight us, and after they had to warp out few times they jumped out of the sys and put up a bubble and started smacking in local how they are keeping us trapped in their base system lol And pacifica don't act all down cuz they're mentioning your english, it's not cuz of your grammar people are bashing you, it's the idiocy that glows out of you... no, someone specifically attacked his grammar skills. Pacifica is being honest and loyal to his alliance, and all you can do is smack him.
TURBOman	Posted - 2006.02.16 14:25:00 - [115] It's hard to restrain from smacking him when 90% of things he says are lies, and i know cuz i've been there, u from NBSI werent so shush... Linkage [Yellow]Your sig is too large, please reduce it's size and have the ladies in it give me a call - Ductoris[/Yello
Krauss	Posted - 2006.02.16 17:45:00 - [116] Originally by: Mallik Hendrake All other wars aside, PA is definitely losing the War of Grammar and Coherent Sentences. Can you guys put a little time into your writing to make it readable, instead of trying to outpost .5. by sheer volume? You cannot defeat their forum fu anyway, might as well try to look less ridiculous while getting owned. I suppose that pointing out flaws in anotherÆs grammar is a way of expressing your intelligence. How many languages are you proficient in?
Lord Spidey	Posted - 2006.02.16 18:07:00 - [117] Originally by: Krauss Originally by: Mallik Hendrake All other wars aside, PA is definitely losing the War of Grammar and Coherent Sentences. Can you guys put a little time into your writing to make it readable, instead of trying to outpost .5. by sheer volume? You cannot defeat their forum fu anyway, might as well try to look less ridiculous while getting owned. I suppose that pointing out flaws in anotherÆs grammar is a way of expressing your intelligence. How many languages are you proficient in? I dont think hes smacking as much as asking that his paragraphs perhaps get proofread by someone else for ease of reading?
Krauss	Posted - 2006.02.16 19:27:00 - [118] Originally by: Lord Spidey Originally by: Krauss Originally by: Mallik Hendrake All other wars aside, PA is definitely losing the War of Grammar and Coherent Sentences. Can you guys put a little time into your writing to make it readable, instead of trying to outpost .5. by sheer volume? You cannot defeat their forum fu anyway, might as well try to look less ridiculous while getting owned. I suppose that pointing out flaws in anotherÆs grammar is a way of expressing your intelligence. How many languages are you proficient in? I dont think hes smacking as much as asking that his paragraphs perhaps get proofread by someone else for ease of reading? LMAO Are you suggesting that you guys are really having trouble comprehending what it is that Pacifica is trying to say. I would offer that he is doing a pretty good job of translating his opinions. If you cannot decipher his ôgrammarö then might I suggest you get a proofreader to correct his post for you as you are the one having the issue not Pacifica, and your shortcomings shouldnÆt be his responsibility to fix for you.
Stamm	Posted - 2006.02.16 19:46:00 - [119] Originally by: pershphanie You need to try out for the special olympics. I know we're on opposite sides of things, and you're way up the top of the chain, and I'm a clueless nub... But could you try to be a little less unpleasant in your posts? It doesn't do you any favours, and it creates bad feeling.
Darcuese	Posted - 2006.02.16 19:57:00 - [120] this thread went way of the subject i must say. Pacifica words for those that cant read.."whining, whining...we are honorable, we dont backstubb, we fight 5 when ever we can, we dont fight 5 untill CCP fix lag,...whin ing, whining...we are honorable, we are sent by the Gods to spread the word...we are killers, we PvP.....POOOP Oh, Im awake again" Now..Get back to ubject....new alliances will populate poluted places by to much carebears....north need to be cleaned Originally by: Darcuese Edited by: Darcuese on 15/02/2006 21:52:42 My 2 ISK Here I go.... I have been hearing stories about The 5 as bad boys before i joined them. Lots of stories have been made. But as Turboman said which i wont quote...iff ppl want constant PvP, why should that make them bad?? Over last several months i have been part of The 5 I can say one thing for sure... The 5 is like Garbage workers....we work hard to keep streets clean from trash/crap/S.H.I.T. In a way ppl should donate money to us for making this space a nicer place to live EDIT: PS PPl should also learn to cut some quotes in to their posts
Lord Spidey	Posted - 2006.02.16 20:03:00 - [121] Edited by: Lord Spidey on 16/02/2006 20:03:34 Originally by: Krauss Originally by: Lord Spidey Originally by: Krauss Originally by: Mallik Hendrake I dont think hes smacking as much as asking that his paragraphs perhaps get proofread by someone else for ease of reading? LMAO Are you suggesting that you guys are really having trouble comprehending what it is that Pacifica is trying to say. I would offer that he is doing a pretty good job of translating his opinions. If you cannot decipher his ôgrammarö then might I suggest you get a proofreader to correct his post for you as you are the one having the issue not Pacifica, and your shortcomings shouldnÆt be his responsibility to fix for you. That is stupidly faulty logic...by your way of thinking I could type utter gibberish and some idiot could say he understands it even though no one else does so its then their fault for not understanding gibberish rather than the person who typed utter gibberish. I hope this is simple enough for you to understand
Lone Bear	Posted - 2006.02.16 20:12:00 - [122] Edited by: Lone Bear on 16/02/2006 20:12:49 Originally by: Darcuese Now..Get back to ubject....new alliances will populate poluted places by to much carebears....north need to be cleaned Originally by: Darcuese A space which will be populated again by "carebears". Claiming a space means that this space is your home, that you can use its ressources. Which ressources are available in 0.0? Rare ore, fat npc, high level cplx. Space control? This is a joke so far, and only a shield to protect pre-said activities. Those are Carebear activities if you stick straight on the definition. So removing carebears to put other carebears on the throne? For what? Forum glory? Sig glory? Bio glory: "I've removed XXX carebears from YYY region and put ZZZ carebears in it"? I would suggest you to elaborate more suspensfull political or emotionnal reasons, cause the "carebear alliance must die" applies to any force that owns 0.0, any force that owns something and use it for profit, economical profit. In the end, only carebears will survive anyway. Edit: typo
Mortix	Posted - 2006.02.16 20:14:00 - [123] Originally by: Lord Spidey Edited by: Lord Spidey on 16/02/2006 20:03:34 Originally by: Krauss Originally by: Lord Spidey Originally by: Krauss Originally by: Mallik Hendrake I dont think hes smacking as much as asking that his paragraphs perhaps get proofread by someone else for ease of reading? LMAO Are you suggesting that you guys are really having trouble comprehending what it is that Pacifica is trying to say. I would offer that he is doing a pretty good job of translating his opinions. If you cannot decipher his ôgrammarö then might I suggest you get a proofreader to correct his post for you as you are the one having the issue not Pacifica, and your shortcomings shouldnÆt be his responsibility to fix for you. That is stupidly faulty logic...by your way of thinking I could type utter gibberish and some idiot could say he understands it even though no one else does so its then their fault for not understanding gibberish rather than the person who typed utter gibberish. I hope this is simple enough for you to understand I think the point was that everyone could understand what pacifica was saying.
Krauss	Posted - 2006.02.16 20:16:00 - [124] Originally by: Lord Spidey Edited by: Lord Spidey on 16/02/2006 20:03:34 Originally by: Krauss Originally by: Lord Spidey Originally by: Krauss Originally by: Mallik Hendrake I dont think hes smacking as much as asking that his paragraphs perhaps get proofread by someone else for ease of reading? LMAO Are you suggesting that you guys are really having trouble comprehending what it is that Pacifica is trying to say. I would offer that he is doing a pretty good job of translating his opinions. If you cannot decipher his ôgrammarö then might I suggest you get a proofreader to correct his post for you as you are the one having the issue not Pacifica, and your shortcomings shouldnÆt be his responsibility to fix for you. That is stupidly faulty logic...by your way of thinking I could type utter gibberish and some idiot could say he understands it even though no one else does so its then their fault for not understanding gibberish rather than the person who typed utter gibberish. I hope this is simple enough for you to understand Not quite. See the difference is I have enough sense to realize that Pacifica isnÆt trying to type ôutter gibberishö As studying the language in school I can clearly recognize the difference between someone doing a fine job of translation for you, and someone typing random characters of crap. Motive. Look that one up. Then ask yourself the question you asked me.
Lord Spidey	Posted - 2006.02.16 20:26:00 - [125] Originally by: Krauss Originally by: Lord Spidey Edited by: Lord Spidey on 16/02/2006 20:03:34 Originally by: Krauss Originally by: Lord Spidey Originally by: Krauss Originally by: Mallik Hendrake LMAO Are you suggesting that you guys are really having trouble comprehending what it is that Pacifica is trying to say. I would offer that he is doing a pretty good job of translating his opinions. If you cannot decipher his ôgrammarö then might I suggest you get a proofreader to correct his post for you as you are the one having the issue not Pacifica, and your shortcomings shouldnÆt be his responsibility to fix for you. That is stupidly faulty logic...by your way of thinking I could type utter gibberish and some idiot could say he understands it even though no one else does so its then their fault for not understanding gibberish rather than the person who typed utter gibberish. I hope this is simple enough for you to understand Not quite. See the difference is I have enough sense to realize that Pacifica isnÆt trying to type ôutter gibberishö As studying the language in school I can clearly recognize the difference between someone doing a fine job of translation for you, and someone typing random characters of crap. Motive. Look that one up. Then ask yourself the question you asked me. Whether or not he is doing a fine job is your OPINION...obviously some people are having a hard time understanding and when they mention it of course your eager to jump on your "ZOMG SMACKERS!!!" horse and ride off into the sunset. My point was not that he was typing random gibberish and if you dont understand that then you really should reread my post
Krauss	Posted - 2006.02.16 20:37:00 - [126] Then what we are getting at is why would you critic his grammer if you thought he was griefing you by typing giberish. It seem obvious to me he is trying to make decent english sentences and the best smack you can muster is to flame his english. Well there you go. Stand tall Pacifica, the worst insult the enemy can get on you is your "poor" english grammar, even though its not your native language. To me its a sure sign of your weakness in having to stoop to such low insults on a person.
Lord Spidey	Posted - 2006.02.16 20:42:00 - [127] Edited by: Lord Spidey on 16/02/2006 20:44:20 Please find me a quote where I insulted his grammar. Oh wait...you cant because I never did. Fine job. I eagerly await your apology

Jacques Archambault	Posted - 2006.02.16 20:58:00 - [128] This thread has drifted way off-topic. click Jacques' forum rules \| [email protected] \| Our new Website! Member of the official Eris Discordia Fanclub Fastest sig nerfer south of EVE Information Center FACT - you can't find a piece of brocolli in a glass of milk

Krauss	Posted - 2006.02.16 21:00:00 - [129] I never said that you did. You defended the person who did attack his grammer by posing the ridiculous argument that his sentences are comparable to a person just posting giberish, and that either person should be responible for making the post "easy for you to read". If you fail to be able to understand the post, I suggest you ignore it. I dont see the logic at all that he should get a proof-reader so that you can understand it. I feel if you dont get it now, you wont get it once its reformed into perfectly contructed proper sentences. I think the problem with it isnt the grammar, its the ideals maybe you cant understand.

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