(until the baahlgorns get there)

yeah, our average fit is about 12 bil cheaper and still stable. that was our ceo's pimp fit one.

Yea...
fix this please...

and give a little love to miners...

Yea... simple math...
T1 version of Mining Foreman Link - Mining Laser Field Enhancement have base boost of 4,5... when you add 0,5 thats 5... thats only around 10% increase...
T1 versions of other links have base value of 2 and 3... so when you add 0,5... thats increase of around 25% and 18%...

That link have the smallest increase...
and that's not fair...

+1000



just not fair...
+ miners need some love...
don't kill mining further...

Can you link this fit, for science?

Not only mining links, have a look at all links... give some more love for T2 links. Not asking for imbalanced things, just a little bit so you can feel that you are getting T2 link boosts instead of T1. For example, vaga with T1 speed link, reaches ~3600m/s from ~2900m/s, a 700m/s inrease, it would nice if T2 module added another 400m/s, or maybe 350m/s.



Point is that T2 modules improve T1 versions. Adding cap reduction to T2 triage is something that the T1 doesn't offer, it contradicts with the whole T2 approach. It will make an entirely different module. Even if that is done, there should be caution not to become cap stable. RRing in triage should still be cap hungry and you should still have to watch out. Well you can make triage stable even today but that cripples the ship a little.
Btw cap reduction is almost exactly the same as giving rep amount bonus. Having the ability to rep more for less cap, means more reps. Short-term you might not notice difference, but long-term it does make a huge difference. And will also make the carrier way harder to kill as it can run its local reps more, maybe even fit 3 instead of 2. If its underpowered atm it should be fixed, but not make it overpowered... (like SCs).
On a side note they can reduce cycle time and fuel reqs for T2 triage, and thats something that wont make it overpowered but also make triage more flexible in its use.
Range bonus is also a possibility, 57km is not enough in every fight. Not every fight is done by blobing around the carrier. Some fights, especially big ones, are done moving and a stationary carrier will become obsolete soon. Increasing your effective range is not bad.

I would like to see activated Gang Links apply their bonuses only on the grid of the buffing Ship, as long as some gang member is in that system (self buff even when no other member is on grid)

Carefully worded, normal gang bonuses are good as they are, and it would be sad to loose fitting variations on some self boosting "solo" BC/CS fits.

I would much more appreciate it to fly even a combat irrelevant full boosting CS right in the fight and maybe die, then hide my ass and miss all the explosions.

I think the ganglink increase is dangerous; it makes having a booster more mandatory and smaller groups without any boosters won't stand a chance. I'm sure there are some fellow WH'ers who will attest to how this will affect their pvp in T3s with already overtanked ships.

I think the 2.0 to 2.5% increase is just too drastic. a 2.0 to 2.25% would have been just fine.

with already overtanked ships.

Basically, let a non-specialized ship only give full boosts out to 30km with falloff to 60km while a level V skilled command ship would have an optimal of 100km (with falloff out to 200km). Maybe with some base level of boosts that you would get anywhere in the system (25% effective?).

meh, i tried to link it for you but, ccp doesnt like hyper links to kbs so much. you can find it on our kb under two steps losses however. not too hard to find it.

Have you actually done any calculations yourself or you just want to make T2 links useless cause you cant use them and you will have disadvantage?
2,5% is already low, i think it should be around 3%. Asking for nerfs with the excuse that it will become useful and that you will need one are two opposite things. If it becomes useful it means its in a good state. Btw even T1 links are useful and many FCs are using/asking them. Also the smaller the group the less the impact boosters have. Its clear you have never used gang links, its ok, but first use them and then ask for nerf. Having T2 links is also very time intensive and doesn't really benefit your own single character since you cant use it when not in fleet or if you are not flying a CS.



Overtanked ships benefit the least from resist link.

getting really close to patch day and there is no word on the final state of T2 triage...

[quote=Lek Arthie][quote=Jaigar] That is a 9.77% reduction over the current T1 Ganglink. That is pretty significant, and counting in the other ganglinks as well, that is also an additional 9.77% reduction in cycle time and cap usage.

I dont understand what your purpose here is. It SHOULD be significant. Have you compared T1 and T2 guns? There is a significant dps change between the two. Saying that a T1 gun cant beat a T2 gun so the T2 gun needs a nerf is just wrong.... I really dont get it. Your goal is to make the T2 module useless?.... If there is no real beenfit of using the T2 module, whats the point of the T2 module to exist?
Even with a 2,5% it still is not enough, it needs more. Saying that T2 modules have the same reqs as mindlink is just useless.... So what if they have same reqs. It still needs a lot of time and it still is very time consuming with the charisma req. You need a remap to train effectively.
So to conclude, dont ask for nerfs because you cant use the T2 module. If you think your enemy gains too much advantage get a T2 booster pilot.
Your whole post and your arguments are completely off and wrong.

The point being that when you get the T2 ganglink requirements, all you need is cybernetics 5 to get 50% more effectiveness from the mindlink; there is already more than enough incentive to train those skills.