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xxanjoahir
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.11.04 15:36:00 -
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Has anyone got a solution to how hot the GUI gets when playing eve?
I have all my setting turned down, and eve is the only game that causes me to BSOD with a stop 0x00000124 issue.
all other games run fine, i have been plagued with this issue since the dominion patch... Its got ridiculous lately.
Idle temp. 60 degrees, active in game temp 80 degrees.
Its been back to the shop and they gave me a new hard drive saying i had an issue with that, since having the new hard drive the problem has persisted.
I have a Mobility Radeon HD 4500/5100 series all up to date drivers...
cheers, |
Transport Sheep
Hamsters ate my Waffles
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Posted - 2011.11.04 15:37:00 -
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Sorry can not resist.
What other games? Sudoku? |
Denidil
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.11.04 15:39:00 -
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LAPTOPS ARE NOT FOR GAMING*
try turning off "load station environment", if you're getting symptoms in space get one of those cooling trays for your laptop.
* except for the very top end expensive ones that are.
[edit] oh and FFS get a can of compressed air and clean out all the cooling systems on the laptop Anyone who is blue to DRF are cowards and have failed Eve.
MM Bombers, Best Bombers |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.11.04 15:42:00 -
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Melts your GUI?
As in, your buttons and drop-down menus start to sag and drip? GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
xxanjoahir
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.11.04 15:44:00 -
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Denidil wrote:LAPTOPS ARE NOT FOR GAMING*
try turning off "load station environment", if you're getting symptoms in space get one of those cooling trays for your laptop.
* except for the very top end expensive ones that are.
thanks - station enviro is turned off and i have a cooling tray. The card has no dust on it and i keep the filters clean, i just cant seem to get the game stable, WOT, COD, all my other MMORP games work fine....
PS: this is a 900 quid laptop so i think it is top end. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.11.04 15:47:00 -
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GPU you mean.
CoD which one? If its CoD I then of course its going to run fine.
The fact its a laptop though means you need to either upgrade the laptop or get a real computer. EVEs minium requirements have been creeping up over the years no longer relying on technology 10 years old. |
Enquirer
Core Industrialist Resurrected Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.11.04 15:53:00 -
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This game is easily run on older systems.... you have an issue with your pc...Chances are a bad memory stick or something... it itsnt the game. Look elsewhere. |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
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Posted - 2011.11.04 15:59:00 -
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xxanjoahir wrote:Has anyone got a solution to how hot the GUI gets when playing eve?
I have all my setting turned down, and eve is the only game that causes me to BSOD with a stop 0x00000124 issue.
all other games run fine, i have been plagued with this issue since the dominion patch... Its got ridiculous lately.
Idle temp. 60 degrees, active in game temp 80 degrees.
Its been back to the shop and they gave me a new hard drive saying i had an issue with that, since having the new hard drive the problem has persisted.
I have a Mobility Radeon HD 4500/5100 series all up to date drivers...
cheers,
FYI the hard drive is probably having problems because of the heat, it's not causing the heat. The hotter your machine gets, the more likely a hard drive is going to fail. Pretty standard is to check your fans for dust - dust buildup in fans and heat sinks acts as insulation and traps heat. Did you change your hardware configuration lately? Yeah changes in software can really kick up the heat depending on how much they ask the CPU/GPU to do, but 80 degrees is dangerously hot - that's not just a software problem. While graphics cards are designed to run up to 105 degrees C in short bursts, you wouldn't want them spending a long time above 90C. Certainly a CPU at 80C means a problem - the older ones start losing life expectancy above 75C and die around 100C. Newer ones have thermal protection and just quit working before frying.
Consider your case layout, dust in the fans, and if nothing works perhaps it's time to look at upgrading your hardware. Make sure you have a nice case then start with the graphics cards since they are the main sources of heat nowadays.
Hope this helps at all. I myself run 6 EVE clients at the same time on the same machine, and have never seen CPU temperatures above 50C (idle is 37) and GPU above 90C with captain's quarters turned on for all 6 clients. So while EVE may not be co-operating too well with older hardware, it's not _that_ much of a pig. FYI I have an Intel i7-950, water cooled with a Corsair H70, 12GB RAM, and 3 graphics cards - Nvidia GTX 470 x2 and an old GeForce 9400GT, all on a fairly cheap Asus motherboard and a really nice Cooler Master case. While it was an expensive set up when I bought it about 18 months ago it's by no means a "monster rig" today and shouldn't cost more than $1200 to build from scratch. The GTX 470's are going for under $200 each at Newegg, some generics are under $100 each. |
xxanjoahir
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.11.04 16:05:00 -
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Ptraci wrote:xxanjoahir wrote:Has anyone got a solution to how hot the GUI gets when playing eve?
I have all my setting turned down, and eve is the only game that causes me to BSOD with a stop 0x00000124 issue.
all other games run fine, i have been plagued with this issue since the dominion patch... Its got ridiculous lately.
Idle temp. 60 degrees, active in game temp 80 degrees.
Its been back to the shop and they gave me a new hard drive saying i had an issue with that, since having the new hard drive the problem has persisted.
I have a Mobility Radeon HD 4500/5100 series all up to date drivers...
cheers, FYI the hard drive is probably having problems because of the heat, it's not causing the heat. The hotter your machine gets, the more likely a hard drive is going to fail. Pretty standard is to check your fans for dust - dust buildup in fans and heat sinks acts as insulation and traps heat. Did you change your hardware configuration lately? Yeah changes in software can really kick up the heat depending on how much they ask the CPU/GPU to do, but 80 degrees is dangerously hot - that's not just a software problem. While graphics cards are designed to run up to 105 degrees C in short bursts, you wouldn't want them spending a long time above 90C. Certainly a CPU at 80C means a problem - the older ones start losing life expectancy above 75C and die around 100C. Newer ones have thermal protection and just quit working before frying. Consider your case layout, dust in the fans, and if nothing works perhaps it's time to look at upgrading your hardware. Make sure you have a nice case then start with the graphics cards since they are the main sources of heat nowadays. Hope this helps at all.
TY:
Unforunately this is a dedicated motherboard and im not too sure I want to start messing around with it.
saying that I do keep checks on the dust issue's - and i've decreased everything in eve to try and give a bit less strain on the card...
Like i say my other games work fine but im constantly BSOD with eve...and the support wasnt much help apart from telling me to updated my drivers.
ill have to take a look at upgrading, i fear that i may not be able to do much. |
Onictus
Legendary Knights Vorpal's Edge
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Posted - 2011.11.04 16:12:00 -
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Play with the presentation invterval and watch the frame rate.
The issue with a lot of the Nvidia cards is that one of the presentations allows the frame-rate to spiral out of control, yeah great youu 1500 computer is getting 430fps...its also melting the GPU(s).
If you keep the presentation interval so that the frame rate stays within reason (so 40-50fps) it will stay much cooler. |
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2011.11.04 16:33:00 -
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Onictus wrote:Play with the presentation invterval and watch the frame rate.
The issue with a lot of the Nvidia cards is that one of the presentations allows the frame-rate to spiral out of control, yeah great youu 1500 computer is getting 430fps...its also melting the GPU(s).
If you keep the presentation interval so that the frame rate stays within reason (so 40-50fps) it will stay much cooler.
Ctrl + F to check your frame rate in game. To kill the enemy and break their toys!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |
Jokerface666
Ever Flow Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.11.04 16:52:00 -
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1. got to the store and kick the guy in the face... harddrive, i hope you haven't payed for that 2. get a PC and not a laptop 3. get serious business hardware ------------------------------w00t w00t rapetrain------------------------------ |
Amsterdam Conversations
Cheesecake Starshine
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Posted - 2011.11.04 17:10:00 -
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How can a GUI get hot? |
Little Delicious
Imperium's Dark Legion
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Posted - 2011.11.04 18:05:00 -
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bsod. maybe you should upgrade from windows 95. |
Written Word
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.11.04 18:07:00 -
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Buy an Nvidia card or turn off station environment. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2011.11.04 18:08:00 -
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xxanjoahir wrote: PS: I know this is a top end laptop // i work with them so know what to look for and what not.
... and yet I am calling a GPU (Graphics Processing Unit) a GUI (Graphical User Interface) CSM do you think? No matter the changes, high sec people chose the safests. Lots of stick and they will leave. Half the problem is the players in null sec; we do not want to be there with you. |
Durie
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.04 18:13:00 -
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Train thermodynamics and grab some nanite repair paste. Also, placing offlined laptops next to your system may help as well. |
Pent'nor
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Posted - 2011.11.04 18:19:00 -
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I'll throw in my two isk's, one way to take the stress off of the gpu is to put it on the cpu. It makes playing eve a bit slow, but maybe worth a try.
In the video card driver properties, there are some settings for how 3d is handeled. No clue what it looks like on yours but mine is:
Texture Quality: Performance Anisotropic Filtering: 2x Vertex Processing: Enabled software processing Vertical Sync: On
The main thing is the processing part which should take some stress off the gpu and have the cpu process it instead. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
SHADOW WARD
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Posted - 2011.11.04 18:25:00 -
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My Graphical User Interface also melts when I play EvE. But that's just because it sucks...doesn't have anything to do with my GPU.
Either way both of my laptops run EvE + Incarna just fine.
"Dear CCP. My computer sucks because I am too damned lazy/poor to buy a real one. Please fix this." Support our boobies!-áLINKY! |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2011.11.04 19:33:00 -
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for laptops, F10 is your friend unloads a lot of the GPU use.
/c
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David Grogan
The Motley Crew Reborn
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Posted - 2011.11.04 19:54:00 -
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xxanjoahir wrote:Has anyone got a solution to how hot the GUI gets when playing eve?
I have all my setting turned down, and eve is the only game that causes me to BSOD with a stop 0x00000124 issue.
all other games run fine, i have been plagued with this issue since the dominion patch... Its got ridiculous lately.
Idle temp. 60 degrees, active in game temp 80 degrees.
Its been back to the shop and they gave me a new hard drive saying i had an issue with that, since having the new hard drive the problem has persisted.
I have a Mobility Radeon HD 4500/5100 series all up to date drivers...
cheers,
GUI = Graphical User Interface - This is software and thus cannot get hot
i think u mean GPU
GPU = Graphics Processing Unit - This is hardware and yes Eve Online can make it run hot.... But it really depends on the Graphics card and how fail the heaksink and cooling fan is.
Nvidia are notorious for making great graphics cards with awful cooling methods. Buy a Zalman heatsink and fan suited for your graphics card and dont forget the thermal paste either. - this works great on my old Nvidia XFX 8500gt graphics card.
if your card is an ATI gcard then Zalman also make good heatsink and fans for those too.
If your gcard is intel well your out of luck.... Intel make rubbish GPU's
laptops also suck for overheating Everytime you buy something that says "made in china" you are helping the rising unemployment in your own country unless your from china, Buy locally produced goods and help create more jobs. |
Annawynn
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.04 20:22:00 -
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Your laptop is pushing the bottom end of the system requirements and probably isn't really designed for extended gaming. If the air intake is located on the bottom of the laptop, try propping it up a CM or two to help improve the airflow a bit. An active laptop cooler could also help, but only if the issue is proper airflow into the cooling (you're SOL if the cooling setup itself isn't up to par).
Depending on where you're from a new computer can be assembled for fairly cheap. Here's a demo I put together of a cheap computer (<$300 USD) running the Incarna CQ with almost all settings set to max.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bikN4etytmw |
T' Elk
Clearly Compensating The Dark Triad
114
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Posted - 2011.11.04 20:29:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Melts your GUI? As in, your buttons and drop-down menus start to sag and drip? Damn, beat me to it :( God wears-áRay Ban Aviators. |
Glory Hound
Rock Paper Scissors
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Posted - 2011.11.04 20:43:00 -
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Generally if you are seeing a BSOD it means your computer is not sharing memory very well with the other things in your laptop that use it. Your video ram will not have its own memory unless you splurged for Alienware. I am betting you never upgraded your memory and are still trying to run with the 1-2 GB ram it came with. Spend some cash and get upgraded to 4GB (or more if you run 64bit). |
KFenn
Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2011.11.04 20:44:00 -
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Chribba wrote:for laptops, F10 is your friend unloads a lot of the GPU use.
/c
You play... with the map open? Commanding Officer of the Treacle Tart Brigade SLAPD Director |
Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
149
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Posted - 2011.11.04 20:47:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:GPU you mean.
CoD which one? If its CoD I then of course its going to run fine.
The fact its a laptop though means you need to either upgrade the laptop or get a real computer. EVEs minium requirements have been creeping up over the years no longer relying on technology 10 years old.
Lol I know someone that runs on a PC built in the late 90s
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=255722#post255722
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