I agree. Only drone boats should be able to field 3-5 drones, everyone else should be limited to 1-2 drones, with drones buffed to compensate. Would also be nice to add an incentive to using larger drones on a ship, ie. if a battleship could field either 2 medium or 2 small, it would choose the medium for more DPS or the small for better tracking. When the alternate to 2 medium is 4 small, the smalls give better tracking and dps at the same time, while also making one ship count as 5 units as far as the server is concerned.

Solution: drone hardpoints.

But can you see any simple solution except - don't swarm ?

From what i observed tidi spikes when people begin to shoot - especially when carrier drones shoot ( calculation for each drone probably, delegation, and the fact that they shoot at the same time ).
Maybe CCP go into this direction - or provide us with some simplified combat scheme during big fights - simplified scripts for shoots calculation , that will round some of the values, or use previous results.

I know this is bad solution, but it is way better than "we are going to kill ihub - job for 10minutes , see you in 5 hours.

Actually the best solution is to change the Sov mechanic from structure oriented to control oriented, but if CCP were to try to do so the same people would be here crying about CCP making the game unplayable(unplayable being a synonym for effort, strategy and thinking in this case). There is no solution for these folks, they'll complain no matter what happens.

drones need to be changed to a gun slot on your ship, and the drones replaced with some kind ammo that gives the same bonuses and it needs to auto assist to targets you are firing on. When the server is trying to deal with 2000 people it should not be doing calculations for x5 each person's worth of drones.

Its a terrible example but I think you get the idea

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Make some new ship to use these. They will be very expensive, an alliance might only have two or even three of them.

how big were fights before Tidi?

How big can they get now?


Unfortunately we need about 200 atoms and a Quantum computer to run a proper fight smoothly.

Are you implying drone assist is the lead cause of heavy TiDi?

Remember back in 2010 when ccp grayscale said there were looking into fix null sec...

Yeah so its almost 4 years later... any updates?

Problem with your idea, Frostys: people will abuse the player limit by bringing in a force large enough to reach the limit all at once, blocking out a defense force.

I suggested long time ago that you have to wait the difference between TIDI/Normal Time - to join the fight.
This is 1 timer and it is easily for ccp to manage it without any big load.

For example TIDI is jumping 1-20% and difference between TIDI system rest of eve is 20 minutes.
You arrive at the gate to this system/ use JB / Titan etc and you get nice prompt.

"You will have to wait 20min to join this fight."
When you click Yes - you get perma cloack and have to wait 20min , or you click no - and go back.

When at some point of battle tidi is gone - timer gets a reset, and all waiting people jump in in perma cloack until they move.

Edit:
One of other topic how to limit TIDI.
People from bloob fights know how things go messy, when sentry drones begin to shoot.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3921265#post3921265

The reason why this is a problem is because 90% of the people are spineless clowns who would rather hide in numbers than actually have some backbone and self respect, they're grind bears. Don't blame EVE or CCP for the massive ****** coalitions.

Been in 0.0 lately?
Try undocking 100 people at the same time, massive tidi, something that didn't used to be a problem. Run 100 man gang thru some gates to a fight and watch the tidi build with each jump.
CCP decided that Tidi was "good enough" and started working on the graphics. The problem with that is, shiny pictures require more time to generate. Jita used to handle 2700, they lowered it to 2k, same reason.

Tidi is also not the great balancer that CCP would have you believe either.
I had two alts in that Black legion Super welp, the one in a Dread could not cycle the siege module for the entire fight. My other character in a subcap ran slow, but all the modules actually cycled, at the expected time based on the tidi.

Tidi is a temporary fix, the problem is, at the pace CCP works, that could be years before they come up with something better.

In order to be involved with Sov warfare now, you must have no life, because any fight could turn into a 10 hour yawn fest

You don't know what you're talking about.
But that's hardly surprising.