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Arela Huren Republic University Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.11.24 09:34:00 - [61] - Quote Speaking as someone who's playing this game solo, And doing exclusively low sec PVE since day one here, Granted i haven't been playing that long (just over 3 months). You're way off the mark here. It's entirely possible to do PVE in low sec, You just need to know the game mechanics, including how to spot a gatecamp and heavily pirate infested areas before even going there as well as how to avoid them if they find you. You also do not in any way need a PVP fitted ship to have a chance to avoid getting killed, I do it every day in PVE fitted ships and i've yet to lose one. The new ships also do not give "extra PVP rewards", There's no such thing as PVP rewards in the first place other than whatever mods survive the explosion to be looted. About your idea to allow people to flag themselves so they can't be attacked.... No, Just no. This game is not a PVE centric game, Even PVE activites like exploration, mining and ratting is to some degree pvp because of the way the market works and part of the what makes EVE, well... EVE is that it IS possible to get ganked at any time, in any place if you're not careful, Take that away and all you've got left is an extremely mediocre PVE experience. The PVE mechanics on their own doesn't have what it takes to compete with actual PVE focused games. If the kind of game where it's possible to do just about anything as long as you can figure out a way to succeed at it, Including killing other players for no reason other than the thrill of the hunt is not your kind of game... Well, then EVE is probably the wrong game for you to play, It's a sandbox game that is very much PVP centric, That said there's plenty of other games that DO allow you to play PVE exclusively without having to worry about other players and i'd rather prefer you play one of those than have this game changed to suit your wants, Especially as EVE is probably the ONLY game of it's kind. As i said, I'm 100% focused on PVE activities like exploration, Mostly in low sec, And if the PVP part of those activities were removed i would quit the game in an instant, As would a very large segment of the playerbase. If you didn't risk losing your ship every time you undocked, If you didn't have to carefully doublecheck any deal you accept... well, Then EVE wouldn't be EVE, And i like EVE for what it is. You want to enjoy the exploration aspects of EVE? That's great, Do your research, Learn how to avoid getting ganked and don't fly a ship you can't easily replace several times over, Just in case your opponents manage to catch you out. But don't go and ask the devs to change the ONE game of it's kind into a generic, sub-par PVE experience with no risk simply because you made a mistake.
Gabriel Karade Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group 145	Posted - 2013.11.24 09:45:00 - [62] - Quote Flakus wrote: I'm I missing something here?, is there a way to enjoy this game PvE style, with exploration, finding places with probes, hacking lost locations, finding great treasures and such, or is it just cold facts, EVE is a mostly PvP game? Yes and I believe, ironically in your case, it is that you simply haven't played enough to learn. Gallente MkII: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1227770 War Machine: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=386293
kes88 Swords of Persephone 27	Posted - 2013.11.24 09:57:00 - [63] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: Riot Girl wrote: Flakus wrote: The last couple of times I have quit this game, I have been ganged coming through a gate, and if it's not true same happen all over again And it's going to keep happening for as long as you keep playing badly. What do they call people that keep doing the same thing over and over and getting the same unwelcome results? To OP - It's really a combination of what some people said about this might not be the game for you and that you just need to expect to encounter PVP and expect to lose your ship. I've always found that that way I am never disappointed. Also OP, people have responded in quite a civil manner to the fact that you are complaining about an aspect which makes up the very basis of EVE. On a slightly different note though, in the words of Mr Thomas Edison: "If I find 10,000 ways something won't work, I haven't failed. I am not discouraged, because every wrong attempt discarded is another step forward. " You don't HAVE to leave, you could just take the advice given you here and take another crack at it, just be more prepared?
Sugar Kyle Calamitous-Intent Feign Disorder 296	Posted - 2013.11.24 10:18:00 - [64] - Quote If you would like to have a chat about what happened look me up. We are a low sec PvP corporation PvPing in low sec. I looked at the loss mail and I suspect you were caught in a site? Tilde soaked words from something kinda like a pirate.
Meilandra Vanderganken Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 8	Posted - 2013.11.24 10:28:00 - [65] - Quote Flakus wrote: I'm I missing something here?, is there a way to enjoy this game PvE style, with exploration, finding places with probes, hacking lost locations, finding great treasures and such, or is it just cold facts, EVE is a mostly PvP game? Nope, you're not missing something, EVE is pretty much purely competitive with crappy PvE to match.
Serptimis Balls Deep Inc. 266	Posted - 2013.11.24 10:33:00 - [66] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: Riot Girl wrote: Flakus wrote: The last couple of times I have quit this game, I have been ganged coming through a gate, and if it's not true same happen all over again And it's going to keep happening for as long as you keep playing badly. What do they call people that keep doing the same thing over and over and getting the same unwelcome results? They call them the electorate.
Lfod Shi Lfod's Ratting and Salvage 139	Posted - 2013.11.24 15:06:00 - [67] - Quote Why doesn't anyone check the map before going into low? ...end transmission... GÖ¬ They'll always be bloodclaws to me GÖ½
Miilla Hulkageddon Orphanage 750	Posted - 2013.11.24 15:08:00 - [68] - Quote If only they had a ship that could be invisible, and a fast align time and some kind of anti scramble technology.
Solstice Project Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 4701	Posted - 2013.11.24 15:12:00 - [69] - Quote Miilla wrote: If only they had a ship that could be invisible, and a fast align time and some kind of anti scramble technology. Now you're just trolling. We all know there's no such thing.
Vicky Somers Rusty Anchor 191	Posted - 2013.11.24 15:21:00 - [70] - Quote Every single combination of ship and fit geared towards exploration will leave you gimped in terms of tank, dps and mobility. The dangers of entering hostile space with a ship that's almost certainly weaker than that of your opponent is part of what makes exploration exciting and challenging. Exploration in a pure pve environment would be like playing an fps multiplayer game alone only to explore the map and admire its beauty without getting shot at. How fun is that? Moderate strength is shown in violence, supreme strength is shown in levity.

Trainwreck McGee Aliastra Gallente Federation 246	Posted - 2013.11.24 16:41:00 - [71] - Quote This is certainly a cry thread Game was garbage in 2003 don't go into dangerous space if you dont want to get popped Eve is not for you. CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool
Optimo Sebiestor Bondage Goat Zombie Strictly Unprofessional 193	Posted - 2013.11.24 16:56:00 - [72] - Quote It requires skill and knowledge to survive in eve. You can easily avoid pvp encounters in low and no Security Space. Unless you meet someone With more skill and knowldege than you. Its like chess! And by skill, i dont mean what you trained on Your character sheet..
Frozen Chief Hedion University Amarr Empire 10	Posted - 2013.11.24 16:59:00 - [73] - Quote Pretty sure he's trolling guys :P.
Jenn aSide STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries 3459	Posted - 2013.11.24 17:18:00 - [74] - Quote Katran Luftschreck wrote: It never ceases to amuse me that threads complaining about jerks & bullies in the game always become magnets for jerks & bullies to come and act like jerks & bullies on the forums as well. There is no such thing as a jerk or bully in EVE online, because the game gives you these things called guns that you can make someone stop with. That is unless you are such a panzy that fighting for yourself even in a video game is impossible.
Katran Luftschreck Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps 1613	Posted - 2013.11.24 17:23:00 - [75] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: There is no such thing as a jerk or bully in EVE online, because the game gives you these things called guns that you can make someone stop with. That is unless you are such a panzy that fighting for yourself even in a video game is impossible. Fair enough, but it's a lot harder to pod someone on the forum. Maybe that's why everyone is so much braver there, eh? Nullsec in a Nutshell: http://nedroid.com/comics/2006-08-24-2155-arrrdino.gif
baltec1 Bat Country Goonswarm Federation 8738	Posted - 2013.11.24 17:27:00 - [76] - Quote Katran Luftschreck wrote: Jenn aSide wrote: There is no such thing as a jerk or bully in EVE online, because the game gives you these things called guns that you can make someone stop with. That is unless you are such a panzy that fighting for yourself even in a video game is impossible. Fair enough, but it's a lot harder to pod someone on the forum. Maybe that's why everyone is so much braver there, eh? Some of us post with our mains so its not like they cant track us down. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
Solstice Project Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 4702	Posted - 2013.11.24 17:33:00 - [77] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Katran Luftschreck wrote: Jenn aSide wrote: There is no such thing as a jerk or bully in EVE online, because the game gives you these things called guns that you can make someone stop with. That is unless you are such a panzy that fighting for yourself even in a video game is impossible. Fair enough, but it's a lot harder to pod someone on the forum. Maybe that's why everyone is so much braver there, eh? Some of us post with our mains so its not like they cant track us down. Exactly. That's not happening though, because most people are stupid, loudmouthing cowards.
SurrenderMonkey Space Llama Industries 206	Posted - 2013.11.24 17:45:00 - [78] - Quote Not liking Eve because there is PvP is like not liking coffee because there is water in it. This game is obviously not for you. You obviously do not like being an explorer. You think you like being an explorer, but exploration is inherently dangerous, and you're obviously ludicrously risk averse when it comes to your space pixels. You are not an explorer - what you are is more aptly called a tourist. As an aside, you were largely killed by your own ignorance. You returned to the game after being absent for god-knows-how long, overpaid for the brand new shiny thing, proceeded to fly it into danger, and lost it. This is 100% your fault. You didn't even put the right kind of cloaking device on the thing.
gaijiin pok Nox Noctis Industrius Novus Dominatum 26	Posted - 2013.11.25 04:55:00 - [79] - Quote you know... without the pirates, the gangs, the camps...null and low would be boring as hell, getting away by the skin of your teeth or springing the trap they have for you and getting away with a kill is a very very cool feeling. if they took away pvp this game wouldn't last long.
Lazy Eagle FUITA Easily Excited 21	Posted - 2013.11.25 05:57:00 - [80] - Quote Just explore low sec around Amarr...... i hear Ami is safe also, can i have your things?

Regis Solo The Scope Gallente Federation 18	Posted - 2013.11.25 09:51:00 - [81] - Quote Vladimir Gurney wrote: Try using D-scan ,check the starmap for number of pods and ships killed in the last hour, avoid low systems near mission hubs...etc It's really not that hard to avoid PvP in low sec if you know what you're doing. This
Dangirdas Bachir Monstrosity Inc 513	Posted - 2013.11.25 09:52:00 - [82] - Quote I have no ***** clue how people get killed by pirates all the time. I have been auto piloting through 0.1 to 0.5 while eating for 10 minutes and I have never gotten caught. I have been flying a **** cruiser that maxes 260 m/s. EVE EVE STARGALACTIC CITY B I T C H
Signal11th DARKNESS. 1128	Posted - 2013.11.25 10:25:00 - [83] - Quote I'm always puzzled by posts like. I've lived in 0.0/low-sec 90% of my eve life and yes on occasion when I'm drunk or being lazy I get killed in a camp but it's probably happened less than 10 times in what 5 years.....If anything 0.0 is fairly easy to live in as long as you don't mind moving once every 6 months depending on who your leadership is at the time has pissed off Eve is like natural selection it weeds out the lazy and the stupid. Powered by-áreaTh-áFilter V1.23 "All posts by this pilot are personal held views and not representitive of-áany-ácorp or alliance I am currently a member of. Like I'd give a-ásh*t anyway. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster.
Beaver Retriever Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 159	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:20:00 - [84] - Quote You fit a prototype cloak. To a Stratios. You sold everything you owned to buy a Stratios and you did not even try to put any thought into how to fit it or examine how the ship works, and then you set off to lowsec with your only valuable possession. Eve is a PVP game, including in hisec, where you can get ganked. If you don't like that then maybe you should just quit. Or, perhaps come to terms with the game being the way it is. It's what makes Eve special.
Eram Fidard Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 470	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:37:00 - [85] - Quote Yep, definitely baffling. Your biggest mistake is not learning a real life lesson that most people learn at a young age. Mainly that, when things don't go your way, you step back, examine what you did, why things didn't go your way, and think about what you can do next time to even the odds in your favour a little. What you did, however...I just don't get it. Every time you got caught was a learning opportunity, but instead of seeing it as such, you threw a tantrum, spewed some excuses, and rage-quit. No amount of raging or poorly-thought-out 'fixes' (honestly, you basically advocated for a PvP switch in your OP) will help you not get caught in a gate camp next time. No matter how many times you whine that other players ruin your fun, that will not force you to fit a covert ops cloaking device on a covert ship. So (as I learned luckily in month 2 of my eve career) you should take a step back, find out why you got caught, and what you can do to not get caught next time. If, instead of rage-quitting, you do this after each loss, I know you'll soon find that even the most brutal multi-dictor nullsec camp can't hold you. It's really not that hard. P.S. If I was in a gate camp and saw a stratios warp through un-cloaked, you can bet I would chase it to hell and back, since that player is obviously clueless. Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages.
Aliaksandre Calamitous-Intent Feign Disorder 62	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:55:00 - [86] - Quote I chased you from a station to the gate. We don't allow gate camps in molden heath, mate.
Crumplecorn Eve Cluster Explorations 441	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:58:00 - [87] - Quote Flakus wrote: I really want to enjoy this game, but the constant tread of PvP gangs, are just making this game not for me. This game is the constant threat of PvP, in one form or another. If you really do want to enjoy this game, you'll embrace that. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=rnd[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation)
Smohq Anmirorz State War Academy Caldari State 149	Posted - 2013.11.25 22:08:00 - [88] - Quote Tasha Saisima wrote: OP is not a true explorer then. If you want something safe and simple, go explore wal-mart. If you want to be a true explorer, then you will go all over the world exploring stuff Wal-mart is a dangerous place. It's full of wal-martians!
Batelle Komm susser Tod 499	Posted - 2013.11.25 22:09:00 - [89] - Quote Beaver Retriever wrote: You fit a prototype cloak. To a Stratios. OMFG he did. I just looked it up on eve-kill.net This thread has delivered. Holy crap. Biomass now op. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!" Never forget.
Moneta Curran Lunar Industries Ltd 186	Posted - 2013.11.25 22:42:00 - [90] - Quote Let's all rejoice, having learned that OP was even more of an idiot than we anticipated.



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