The last couple of times I have quit this game, I have been ganged coming through a gate, and if it's not true same happen all over again

I reactivated my account, log into the game, sold what ever I could, to afford the new Stratios, popped it up with modules and left the station.

Stay in high sec until you get a T3 trained up. Then fit a covert ops cloaking device, then install the subsystem that makes it so you are immune to warp bubbles. Then you can go anywhere you want without much worry. Just have to learn to warp cloaked and so on. I would practice the methods in high sec until you get it down. Doesn't take long to get into a Strategic Cruiser (T3). Only downside is the T3s are a bit pricy, and be a bit pricy getting it set up.

For you and others like you, I'm willing to throw in my 2 cents. I'm someone who spends a lot of time doing PVE in low security space. It took me awhile to feel comfortable there, but I avoided any really horrible incidents by following a couple of basic steps. First, I learned all I could be watching some helpful youtube videos to learn what to expect in low security space. Second, I didn't fly what I wasn't willing to lose.

EVE is a great game in my opinion because it makes losses meaningful, but it also allows you to choose your own level of risk. Any ship I fly, even if I'm in high-sec, I assume I am going to lose it.

From the OP, the cringe-inducing thing for me to see was this:



First, if you have to sell off everything you own just to fly a ship, you shouldn't fly it. Not in high-sec, definitely not in low-sec. Second, When there is a new ship added to the game, lots of people want to get a killmail of that ship. So you are going to be hunted more than usual if you fly it. Finally, the Stratios is a cov-ops capable ship that should be very difficult to catch if you know what you are doing with it. I would recommend learning some about how to stay safe in low-sec, then getting yourself into a cov-ops frigate and spending some more time in low-sec. Learn about making safespots, staying cloaked, and how gate aggression mechanics work, among other things.

EVE can be a harsh learning environment but to me the keys have always been to fly cheap stuff, learn as much as possible from others, and most of all learn from my mistakes. You need to be willing to have some losses, make some dumb mistakes, and learn and grow from it or EVE is not going to be a fun time for you.

"I'm like, not an expert or anything, and I like, have no idea what I'm talking, just in case I'm wrong."

Not a good sign you should make a GD thread.

I'm a explore, I like to see things in games, go to the edges of the world enjoying all the small hidden places. This also goes for EVE, so when I saw the new expansion had two new explore minded ships I was sold. I reactivated my account, log into the game, sold what ever I could, to afford the new Stratios, popped it up with modules and left the station.

Some people talked in the chat about the new ships being targets for gang pvp, since they gave some kind of extra pvp reward ?. Maybe I should have payed more attention there, since right away I when through a 0,5 to 0,4 I was welcomed by a group of pirates waiting. I managed to flee a couple of times, but through out the weekend, I was met with small gangs tracking my movement and after a gate jump they managed to get the kill. And right there I once again stopped playing.

I'm I missing something here?, is there a way to enjoy this game PvE style, with exploration, finding places with probes, hacking lost locations, finding great treasures and such, or is it just cold facts, EVE is a mostly PvP game?

omething here?, is there a way to enjoy this game PvE style, with exploration, finding places with probes, hacking lost locations, finding great treasures and such, or is it just cold facts, EVE is a mostly PvP game?

And it's going to keep happening for as long as you keep playing badly.

this game not for me.

Paradoxically, the best way to learn how to avoid PvP, is to engage in PvP. Learn the tactics and counter accordingly.

Fly smart, don't be a target.

Be careful, though. I've known many a mild pilot who professed not to like PvP, only to end up becoming absolute monsters!

"came back in 2003"

came back ?

in 2003 ?

It's a open world, but should it not in some way be possible for PvE people to explore the world without getting ganged time after time?

I'm a explore

] And right there I once again stopped playing.

I'm I missing something here?, is there a way to enjoy this game PvE style, with exploration, finding places with probes, hacking lost locations, finding great treasures and such, or is it just cold facts, EVE is a mostly PvP game?

I'm a explore, I like to see things in games, go to the edges of the world enjoying all the small hidden places. This also goes for EVE, so when I saw the new expansion had two new explore minded ships I was sold. I reactivated my account, log into the game, sold what ever I could, to afford the new Stratios, popped it up with modules and left the station.

"Guys, dang it, sheesh, stop trying to kill us and stuff, we're just exploring. " -- Meriwether Lewis to the Sioux indians.

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EVE is a mostly PvP game?

I don't know how many people that don't play EVE because of this, but I know a handfull that have stopped on this account.

Paradoxically, the best way to learn how to avoid PvP, is to engage in PvP. Learn the tactics and counter accordingly.

is there a way to enjoy this game PvE style, with exploration, finding places with probes, hacking lost locations, finding great treasures and such, or is it just cold facts, EVE is a mostly PvP game?

I still cant believe people die in lowsec..How do you die in lowsec theres no bubbles!?!

I'm I missing something here?, is there a way to enjoy this game PvE style, with exploration, finding places with probes, hacking lost locations, finding great treasures and such, or is it just cold facts, EVE is a mostly PvP game?

What do they call people that keep doing the same thing over and over and getting the same unwelcome results?

I'm I missing something here?, is there a way to enjoy this game PvE style, with exploration, finding places with probes, hacking lost locations, finding great treasures and such, or is it just cold facts, EVE is a mostly PvP game?

What do they call people that keep doing the same thing over and over and getting the same unwelcome results?

If only they had a ship that could be invisible, and a fast align time and some kind of anti scramble technology.

It never ceases to amuse me that threads complaining about jerks & bullies in the game always become magnets for jerks & bullies to come and act like jerks & bullies on the forums as well.

There is no such thing as a jerk or bully in EVE online, because the game gives you these things called guns that you can make someone stop with. That is unless you are such a panzy that fighting for yourself even in a video game is impossible.

Fair enough, but it's a lot harder to pod someone on the forum. Maybe that's why everyone is so much braver there, eh?

Some of us post with our mains so its not like they cant track us down.

Try using D-scan ,check the starmap for number of pods and ships killed in the last hour, avoid low systems near mission hubs...etc

It's really not that hard to avoid PvP in low sec if you know what you're doing.

I really want to enjoy this game, but the constant tread of PvP gangs, are just making this game not for me.

OP is not a true explorer then. If you want something safe and simple, go explore wal-mart. If you want to be a true explorer, then you will go all over the world exploring stuff

You fit a prototype cloak. To a Stratios.

Let's all rejoice, having learned that OP was even more of an idiot than we anticipated.

Is this a crybaby thread?, maybe, maybe not.

When EVE came back in 2003, I like many others started to play this lovely game, and what a game it was / still is.
You can write page after page about all the great features, possibilities and the endless space, but sadly it only takes a few negative ones to remove the joy of playing the game.

I have been away from the game, and the coming back a few times now, and sadly the same element ruins my fun.
Now I'm no where near an expert in this game, so what I'm saying now may be so wrong as it can be, but still.

It seems like gate camping is still a very viral option in the game, and that if you move your ship outside of secure space you must have a pvp fitted ship, to just stand a chance of getting away. The last couple of times I have quit this game, I have been ganged coming through a gate, and if it's not true same happen all over again.

I'm a explore, I like to see things in games, go to the edges of the world enjoying all the small hidden places. This also goes for EVE, so when I saw the new expansion had two new explore minded ships I was sold. I reactivated my account, log into the game, sold what ever I could, to afford the new Stratios, popped it up with modules and left the station.

Some people talked in the chat about the new ships being targets for gang pvp, since they gave some kind of extra pvp reward ?. Maybe I should have payed more attention there, since right away I when through a 0,5 to 0,4 I was welcomed by a group of pirates waiting. I managed to flee a couple of times, but through out the weekend, I was met with small gangs tracking my movement and after a gate jump they managed to get the kill. And right there I once again stopped playing.

No doubt it's my own fault, the rules of the game is clear. In systems with 0.4 and below it's a free world for pirates, so I could just have kept my ship in 0.5 and above. But that leaves a great part of the game-world out of my reach. I don't like to PvP, I enjoy the PvE exploration part, with random PvE encounters that are balanced not a 20+ pirates vs you.

I don't know how many people that don't play EVE because of this, but I know a handfull that have stopped on this account.
It's a open world, but should it not in some way be possible for PvE people to explore the world without getting ganged time after time?.
What about a option PvE option, that you could only turn on in secure space, travel out into the 0.4 and below in PvE mode, then if you wanted to change to PvP, you had to travel back to secure space and turn it off again. This way it will not interrupt the big PvP world, since people can't just move out in PvE mode and then turn PvP on when they are where they want to be.
I really want to enjoy this game, but the constant tread of PvP gangs, are just making this game not for me.

I want to explore, but from what I understand you have to go to 0.4 and below to find anything. And only a small portion of the game world is 0.5 and up. It feels like playing world of warcraft where you can only be in Goldshire.

I'm I missing something here?, is there a way to enjoy this game PvE style, with exploration, finding places with probes, hacking lost locations, finding great treasures and such, or is it just cold facts, EVE is a mostly PvP game?

TL;DR is there tears? short version anyone?

TL;DR OP left Eve because it's a PvP game not a PvE game. OP came back, expected CCP to have changed the game just for him and his ilk, liquidated his assets, spunked the lot on a shitfit SoE ship which he promptly lost in lowsec.

Yes there were tears, of the finest salinity.

I'm I missing something here?, is there a way to enjoy this game PvE style, with exploration, finding places with probes, hacking lost locations, finding great treasures and such, or is it just cold facts, EVE is a mostly PvP game?

EVE == Everyone vs Everyone.

EvE is a PvP game. There are ways you can explore and avoid PvP, but eventually you will lose your ship. This is simply a part of playing the game, whether you want to or not.

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I want to explore, but from what I understand you have to go to 0.4 and below to find anything. And only a small portion of the game world is 0.5 and up. It feels like playing world of warcraft where you can only be in Goldshire.

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.. You don't have to be a PVPer to play Eve, and you don't have to be a PVPer to enjoy content outside of hisec. If you're not going to be the hunter, then you will be the quarry. But the quarry has plenty of tools and techniques to avoid being caught. Even if you don't want to go out and kill people, you do need to understand how PVP works, how the game works, and how to do what you in the way thats most fulfilling to you. Ultimately, if you died, its very likely that you made a mistake that allowed you to be caught,....

Is this a crybaby thread?, maybe, maybe not.

When EVE came back in 2003, I like many others started to play this lovely game, and what a game it was / still is.
You can write page after page about all the great features, possibilities and the endless space, but sadly it only takes a few negative ones to remove the joy of playing the game.

I have been away from the game, and the coming back a few times now, and sadly the same element ruins my fun.
Now I'm no where near an expert in this game, so what I'm saying now may be so wrong as it can be, but still.

It seems like gate camping is still a very viral option in the game, and that if you move your ship outside of secure space you must have a pvp fitted ship, to just stand a chance of getting away. The last couple of times I have quit this game, I have been ganged coming through a gate, and if it's not true same happen all over again.

I'm a explore, I like to see things in games, go to the edges of the world enjoying all the small hidden places. This also goes for EVE, so when I saw the new expansion had two new explore minded ships I was sold. I reactivated my account, log into the game, sold what ever I could, to afford the new Stratios, popped it up with modules and left the station.

Some people talked in the chat about the new ships being targets for gang pvp, since they gave some kind of extra pvp reward ?. Maybe I should have payed more attention there, since right away I when through a 0,5 to 0,4 I was welcomed by a group of pirates waiting. I managed to flee a couple of times, but through out the weekend, I was met with small gangs tracking my movement and after a gate jump they managed to get the kill. And right there I once again stopped playing.

No doubt it's my own fault, the rules of the game is clear. In systems with 0.4 and below it's a free world for pirates, so I could just have kept my ship in 0.5 and above. But that leaves a great part of the game-world out of my reach. I don't like to PvP, I enjoy the PvE exploration part, with random PvE encounters that are balanced not a 20+ pirates vs you.

I don't know how many people that don't play EVE because of this, but I know a handfull that have stopped on this account.
It's a open world, but should it not in some way be possible for PvE people to explore the world without getting ganged time after time?.
What about a option PvE option, that you could only turn on in secure space, travel out into the 0.4 and below in PvE mode, then if you wanted to change to PvP, you had to travel back to secure space and turn it off again. This way it will not interrupt the big PvP world, since people can't just move out in PvE mode and then turn PvP on when they are where they want to be.
I really want to enjoy this game, but the constant tread of PvP gangs, are just making this game not for me.

I want to explore, but from what I understand you have to go to 0.4 and below to find anything. And only a small portion of the game world is 0.5 and up. It feels like playing world of warcraft where you can only be in Goldshire.

I'm I missing something here?, is there a way to enjoy this game PvE style, with exploration, finding places with probes, hacking lost locations, finding great treasures and such, or is it just cold facts, EVE is a mostly PvP game?

You lost a ship that can use CovOps (and hence warp around cloaked, eliminating 99.99% chance of getting caught at gates), because you used a regular cloak.

If you want something safe and simple, go explore wal-mart.

Gate guns.
Again and again and again and again. I just never learn.