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Grotz
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Posted - 2006.03.12 00:53:00 -
[31]
 Originally by: Eyeshadow
2xMedium Diminishings
3xMedium pulse IIs
which crystals and this is for anti frig yes?
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Kaiu
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Posted - 2006.03.12 00:53:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Eyeshadow
2xMedium Diminishings
3xMedium pulse IIs
which crystals and this is for anti frig yes?
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Lorth
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Posted - 2006.03.12 01:02:00 -
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I recently tried a shield tanked ishtar with a Large booster, an amp and a cap booster. I must say I'm impressed. Solo it would be a horrible set up, but if your in a gang, even a small one, its a great set up.
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Dash Ripcock
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Posted - 2006.03.12 01:05:00 -
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High
3 * 150mm IIs
1 * S Nosfer (E5)
1 * M Nosfer (E50)
Med
1 * AB II
1 * 20Km Scrambler
1 * Webber (85% plus)
2 * ECM Slots (Tracking Disruptors, Painters, Dampeners, EW)
Low
1 * 1600mm RT
1 * M Armour Rep II
1 * Explosive Hardener (N-Type)
1 * Energ. Adap. Nano II
1 * RCU II
Drones
Target specific, although a batch of five ECM drones are good for tricky situations.
She's basically a Swiss army knife. I pretty much swear on the plate - having 6000 hardened points between you and the Almighty is no bad thing, and it has saved my bacon on many occasions. She'll kill frigates with ease, take out other cruiser-sized ships through ECM and damage, and with some careful flying can be deadly against a Battleship (or Battleships if you're Marko). Fantastic piece of equipment.
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Linavin
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Posted - 2006.03.12 02:42:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Grotz
Originally by: Eyeshadow
2xMedium Diminishings
3xMedium pulse IIs
which crystals and this is for anti frig yes?
They're less of antifrig and more of a bit of extra damage to augment the drones so I use MFs. If you need anti-frig that badly then you just use light or medium drones, of which you should be carrying. The Nos of course are the multipurpose weapons and suckers for every ship type you run up against.
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Originally by: Sarmaul
nm, that says lub not lube
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Tadis
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Posted - 2006.03.12 03:18:00 -
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My ishtar for a long time:
2 x Med nos
3 x 150mm II
1 x 10AB II
2 x Hypnos multispec jammer
1 x fleeting warp scrambler
1 x medium cap injector (with 800 charges)
1 x medium rep II
1 x 800mm plate
1 x N type explosive hardener
1 x RCU II
1 x CPU II
Multitude of combat/EW drones.
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Xiau Bing
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Posted - 2006.03.20 13:45:00 -
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Edited by: Xiau Bing on 20/03/2006 13:47:21
Edited by: Xiau Bing on 20/03/2006 13:46:01
Ok ok i know you guys wont like that kinda setup but as i dont have much pvp skills and i do mission runing some time i concentrate to tank as much as possible.
High:
small tractor,weapons of your choice
med:
4 cap recharger t2, 1 med cap battery t 2
low:
3 active hardneres of choice, 2 mar t2
it can run all low slots unlimited and thus tank a complete complex lvl in a lvl3 angel extravaganza mission
sometimes i have 2 mnos t2 and a small rail so if attacked i can withstand even a large nos and have enough time ... hopefully the opponnent will find out soon enough that i am not easy pray and get lost...
In drone bay i have 5light t2, 5med t2, 5 heavy t2, and some reinforcements or sentries....
i havent had any pvp fight with that hac yet btw so i am not sure if it makes sense in anyway ... probably not
possible would also be 3 nano adaptives t 2 which would result in a extra free med slot for webber .. or so on
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HUGO DRAX
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Posted - 2006.03.20 14:27:00 -
[38]
Originally by: SUMZER0
I have seen many threads for the Deimos...Have not seen any suggestions for an ishtar set up....I amthinking of buying one....any good setup ideas?
You dont see many cause its a great PvP ship and folks dont want prices to rise to Deimos levels.
Dont just complain, do something. Channel macrointel meet with likeminded folks, spottings,intel |
blood red
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Posted - 2006.03.20 15:06:00 -
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2 small repairers are not better than 1 medium. its been said time and again. same cap/same hp per sec, except you waste a slot.
actually any small crap on a hac is stupid, all these setups have something small on them i cant help but see that as a waste of resources. if you want to run small stuff get an assault frigate.
if your a smart hac pilot you dont try and do 25 different things with it, just build a tank and run dual 150 or heavy electrons, and rely on drones for damage.
3 dual 150mm or heavy electrons, 2 small remote armor repairers
10mn ab, 2 cap charger 2 1 med battery 2 1 web/[ainter slot
2 medium repairers, 1 energized adaptive 2, and 2 cap relays.
will autorun the tank, and will only need one repairer to best any other setup in here.
this setup vs a 3 nos ishtar ends with the 3 nos ishtar losing if you have the foresight to attack the enemy drones. ive proved it vs berserker 2 ishtar and am quite satisfied.
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newfacex
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Posted - 2006.03.20 15:19:00 -
[40]
Originally by: blood red
2 small repairers are not better than 1 medium. its been said time and again. same cap/same hp per sec, except you waste a slot.
actually any small crap on a hac is stupid, all these setups have something small on them i cant help but see that as a waste of resources. if you want to run small stuff get an assault frigate.
if your a smart hac pilot you dont try and do 25 different things with it, just build a tank and run dual 150 or heavy electrons, and rely on drones for damage.
3 dual 150mm or heavy electrons, 2 small remote armor repairers
10mn ab, 2 cap charger 2 1 med battery 2 1 web/[ainter slot
2 medium repairers, 1 energized adaptive 2, and 2 cap relays.
will autorun the tank, and will only need one repairer to best any other setup in here.
this setup vs a 3 nos ishtar ends with the 3 nos ishtar losing if you have the foresight to attack the enemy drones. ive proved it vs berserker 2 ishtar and am quite satisfied.
The MC dudeys setup (which is similar to mine) along with a couple of others here i have seen would happily and easily 'pwn' your 'basic' setup you have listed.
Cap recharge is for mission/npc
Get some sense and come pvp properly
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blood red
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Posted - 2006.03.20 15:32:00 -
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you mean eyeshadows??? i really had to check again, and then when i saw that setup, i have to wonder why the hell you can think that. it still stands true that my ship will beat that with 1 of its repairers running.
not like i havent "pvp"ed before. just dont like seeing crap setup advice on the forum.
all setups before the one i posted are crap. crap damage output, crap damage soak.
even if you ran all market t1 stuff my setup is better than most listed here.
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newfacex
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Posted - 2006.03.20 19:51:00 -
[42]
Originally by: blood red
you mean eyeshadows??? i really had to check again, and then when i saw that setup, i have to wonder why the hell you can think that. it still stands true that my ship will beat that with 1 of its repairers running.
not like i havent "pvp"ed before. just dont like seeing crap setup advice on the forum.
all setups before the one i posted are crap. crap damage output, crap damage soak.
even if you ran all market t1 stuff my setup is better than most listed here.
Honestly, you can argue all you like. Cruiser sized cap is a problem yes, but on mission running/NPC...not pvp
in missions/npc you need to keep your rep running whilst you clear the spawn...hence the cap power, rechargers and relays etc
now in PVP...my drones would eat you dead
with the awful resistances you have (ahem...explosive?) my tech2 beserkers would eat your ishtar...nevermind both Reps
this is just advice, no boasting etc but honestly, if you find someone with decent skills and any of the pretty cool setups listed above. they WILL eat you
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KilROCK
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Posted - 2006.03.20 19:57:00 -
[43]
Edited by: KilROCK on 20/03/2006 20:02:58
Originally by: blood red
2 small repairers are not better than 1 medium. its been said time and again. same cap/same hp per sec, except you waste a slot.
actually any small crap on a hac is stupid, all these setups have something small on them i cant help but see that as a waste of resources. if you want to run small stuff get an assault frigate.
if your a smart hac pilot you dont try and do 25 different things with it, just build a tank and run dual 150 or heavy electrons, and rely on drones for damage.
3 dual 150mm or heavy electrons, 2 small remote armor repairers
10mn ab, 2 cap charger 2 1 med battery 2 1 web/[ainter slot
2 medium repairers, 1 energized adaptive 2, and 2 cap relays.
will autorun the tank, and will only need one repairer to best any other setup in here.
this setup vs a 3 nos ishtar ends with the 3 nos ishtar losing if you have the foresight to attack the enemy drones. ive proved it vs berserker 2 ishtar and am quite satisfied.
That's not a pvp setup.
And you couldn't be more wrong about every statement in your post.
Originally by: Ithildin
Q: Will the Gallente ship have lots of missiles? I think it's time.
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Rambo Armsdealer
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Posted - 2006.03.20 20:01:00 -
[44]
Originally by: blood red
2 small repairers are not better than 1 medium. its been said time and again. same cap/same hp per sec, except you waste a slot.
actually any small crap on a hac is stupid, all these setups have something small on them i cant help but see that as a waste of resources. if you want to run small stuff get an assault frigate.
if your a smart hac pilot you dont try and do 25 different things with it, just build a tank and run dual 150 or heavy electrons, and rely on drones for damage.
3 dual 150mm or heavy electrons, 2 small remote armor repairers
10mn ab, 2 cap charger 2 1 med battery 2 1 web/[ainter slot
2 medium repairers, 1 energized adaptive 2, and 2 cap relays.
will autorun the tank, and will only need one repairer to best any other setup in here.
this setup vs a 3 nos ishtar ends with the 3 nos ishtar losing if you have the foresight to attack the enemy drones. ive proved it vs berserker 2 ishtar and am quite satisfied.
i can get the same dmg output with a better tank and 2 medium nosf
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2006.03.20 20:09:00 -
[45]
Edited by: LUKEC on 20/03/2006 20:12:25
Edited by: LUKEC on 20/03/2006 20:11:43
Originally by: blood red
2 small repairers are not better than 1 medium. its been said time and again. same cap/same hp per sec, except you waste a slot.
actually any small crap on a hac is stupid, all these setups have something small on them i cant help but see that as a waste of resources. if you want to run small stuff get an assault frigate.
if your a smart hac pilot you dont try and do 25 different things with it, just build a tank and run dual 150 or heavy electrons, and rely on drones for damage.
3 dual 150mm or heavy electrons, 2 small remote armor repairers
10mn ab, 2 cap charger 2 1 med battery 2 1 web/[ainter slot
2 medium repairers, 1 energized adaptive 2, and 2 cap relays.
will autorun the tank, and will only need one repairer to best any other setup in here.
this setup vs a 3 nos ishtar ends with the 3 nos ishtar losing if you have the foresight to attack the enemy drones. ive proved it vs berserker 2 ishtar and am quite satisfied.
Sorry dear... but if you meet anyone using something similar to eyeshadow's build... your hac will go p00f. Not to mention that in case something goes wrong, he can warp. But with so crappy setup, nothing can go wrong, reppers just don't seem to work these days.
Originally by: Commander Nikolas
People like Lukec are the problem and they know it. Shin Ra's Raven has 4x WCS, Lukec's Dominix has 5x WCS & Ishtar has 2x WCS.
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Recluse XXX
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Posted - 2006.03.20 21:11:00 -
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Its uber...NERF IT!
//Rec
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Edited by: sausage jockey on 01/02/2006 22:02:39
We will not give up until we have penetrated the rear entrance to Stain, we hope this will hurt SA to the point they start to cry.
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.03.30 23:58:00 -
[47]
Originally by: blood red
2 small repairers are not better than 1 medium. its been said time and again. same cap/same hp per sec, except you waste a slot.
I'd normally agree with this but the Ishtar is a funny ship to fit. It's got some cap problems, too. Fitting two medium nos will go a long way toward running a sustained tank without wasting 3 slots and over 30mil on cap gear - slots that you NEED for webbers and scramblers and which would be better used for EW or sensor boosters. That setup might look good on paper or in a test situation but real experience shows it has limited use.
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The Cold
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Posted - 2006.03.31 00:25:00 -
[48]
Nerf it !!! 
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Kairenna
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Posted - 2006.04.05 08:08:00 -
[49]
Most important are still the drones. What setups are you guys using? I mean what drones, how many and how are they grouped?
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Justice Bringer
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Posted - 2006.04.06 08:48:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Kairenna
Most important are still the drones. What setups are you guys using? I mean what drones, how many and how are they grouped?
As long as you have HAS to lvl 4 then you have a reasonable drone bay to fill.
You can carry 10 heavy, 5 med and a load of lights. Always carry explosive as that tends to be the weakest resist of "most" ships. Other than that pack in some EM, Kinetic, and Themral in each of the sizes.
My favourite grouping is 3 x Explosive, 2 x EM in any size, and a 3/2 split for kinetic/therm. It all depends on which rats you're up against as you may find that some have a superb resistance against thermal and so Ogres are useles, or some BS have great resist against EM so praetors are useles. It's trial and error and knowing your targets resist.
You could pack in some EW drones also so if you have drone interfacing at lvl 5 you could use 3 combat and 2 EW in a group.
Only problem is that you can't group combat and EW drones in a single group so it makes for a little more work when deploying what you want, but it still works.
Just pack in plenty and you should cover all bases.
Justice 
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iamme
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Posted - 2006.04.16 04:20:00 -
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I see alot on here about the ship but what SP do you all recommend as a minimum in drones I never fly a ship unless I can really fly it. TY all for any help.
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Justice Bringer
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Posted - 2006.04.16 07:03:00 -
[52]
Originally by: iamme
I see alot on here about the ship but what SP do you all recommend as a minimum in drones I never fly a ship unless I can really fly it. TY all for any help.
You need to get Drones, Drone Inerfacing, Scout Drones all to lvl 5. After that if you want to use tech II heavy drones you'll also need Heavy Drone Ops to lvl 5.
With those all at lvl 5 you can use all combat drones (Tech II when you specialise) and the EW simply require your EW skills to be at lvl 4.
I currently have 12 Drone skills @ 2.297 mill SPs
Justice
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Koetsu
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Posted - 2006.04.17 01:57:00 -
[53]
Edited by: Koetsu on 17/04/2006 01:59:26
Edited by: Koetsu on 17/04/2006 01:57:30
NPC setup, works fine for soloing most lvl4¦s
high:
3x 150mmT2
1x Nos M T2
1x e5 small nos
med:
AB10T2
signal booster
90% webber
named/T2 cap recharger
EW ( painter in missions for sentries)
low:
1600mm tungsten
repper M T2
RCUT2
2xenergized T2 depending on rats
drones:
5 hvys
5 sentries
5 meds
webber
sentries work fine from 65 km down to 30 km, then switch to hvys/ meds, but never web the target the hvys re on if its a frig, they dont hit crap then 
3.9 in drones here
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Orvas Dren
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Posted - 2006.04.21 05:29:00 -
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My current ratting setup.
2 Med Diminishing NOS
3 150mm II w/ Javelin S
1 10MN AB II
1 Drone Tracking Mod
3 Cap Charger II
1 MAR II
2 Named Exp Hardeners
1 Energized Thermic Plate (Faction for 40% or higher)
1 800mm Crystalline Carbide
60 EM and 75% or higher on all other resists and enough Cap with the NOS going to run it all forever.
PvP:
3 Med Diminishing NOS
2 150mm II w/ Javelin S
1 10MN AB II
1 X5 or better Web
1 20km Scrambler
1 Drone Tracking Mod
1 Cap Charger (Named or T2 if you can afford it.)
1 MAR II
1 Named Exp Hardener
1 Named Therm Hardener
1 Passive EM plate (40% if possible)
1 800mm Crystaline Carbide or Tungsten
I personally run 5 Hammerhead II for most of my ratting, but once I get the ability to run Ogre II or Berserker II, I will use those. PvP Drones I think Med's are the best all-around, so a mix of Hammerhead II and Valkyrie II in bay for whatever you may run into.
Drones Interfacing 5 does help a bit I noticed.
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Phaese
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Posted - 2006.04.21 06:45:00 -
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This is a pretty crazy Serpentis/Guristas tank; I used to use this when I hacked in Gallante COSMOS, but hacking was boring. But the tank is sweet:
Highs:
whatever you can/want to fit, I used 3x 75mm IIs
Mids:
2x Best Named Large Capacitor Battery
2x Named/t2 Cap Recharger
1x Codebreaker
Lows:
2x Medium Rep II
2x Thermal Hardner II
1x Kinetic Hardner II
It ended up having 92% to kin/therm and could run everything forever (almost; you have to skip one of the rep cycles every once and a while, at least I did). Obviously a full bay of drones is your main offensive weapon.
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Daivasth
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Posted - 2006.04.21 22:15:00 -
[56]
Originally by: blood red
2 small repairers are not better than 1 medium. its been said time and again. same cap/same hp per sec, except you waste a slot.
actually any small crap on a hac is stupid, all these setups have something small on them i cant help but see that as a waste of resources. if you want to run small stuff get an assault frigate.
if your a smart hac pilot you dont try and do 25 different things with it, just build a tank and run dual 150 or heavy electrons, and rely on drones for damage.
3 dual 150mm or heavy electrons, 2 small remote armor repairers
10mn ab, 2 cap charger 2 1 med battery 2 1 web/[ainter slot
2 medium repairers, 1 energized adaptive 2, and 2 cap relays.
will autorun the tank, and will only need one repairer to best any other setup in here.
this setup vs a 3 nos ishtar ends with the 3 nos ishtar losing if you have the foresight to attack the enemy drones. ive proved it vs berserker 2 ishtar and am quite satisfied.
to be honest, i would have to force CCP to call a psychologist for someone who would take your word on PvPing in an Ishtar over the word of Eyeshadow... this isnt a flame, but keep in mind that the OP wants a variety of info, not an arguement over easeir fitting vs extra slot...
that said, in general, is there a difference between running 125s vs 150mms?
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Kai Jyokoroi
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Posted - 2006.06.04 03:45:00 -
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Edited by: Kai Jyokoroi on 04/06/2006 03:53:50
Hmmm, I'm going to be getting an Ishtar soon, what do people think of this set-up?
Highs - 3 x E50 med nos
- 2 x 125mm prototypes
Med - 10mn AB II
- 90% webber
- Fleeting 20k warp scrambler (or TS if I ever find one)
- 2 x Tracking disruptor IIs (I find them to be more reliable than jammers at screwing up peoples damage output)
Low - MAR II
- True Sansha active exp hardener
- 2 x EANM II
- 800mm rolled tungsten
5 Ogre IIs and 5 Berserker IIs in the lows, along with a smattering of various other types of bees.
I haven't checked at all to see if this would fit, it's just my ideas. Thoughts? 
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Skrypt
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Posted - 2006.06.04 06:26:00 -
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Eyeshadow, why T2 M Pulses instead of T2 M Rails?
- Skrypt |
fmercury
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Posted - 2006.06.04 06:33:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Skrypt
Eyeshadow, why T2 M Pulses instead of T2 M Rails?
Well, medium beam lasers do a ittle more dps than 150mms, and get better tracking. But then again, they suffer somewhat in range, so i guess it's personal preference.
Besides, maybe his small laser skills are better than his small hybrid skills. (i doubt it, though )
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Coulix
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Posted - 2006.06.04 08:50:00 -
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solo pvp setup.
took down a raven with heavy nos,
tempest.
Hi: 2 med nos named, 1 small energy neut.
Med: af2 web 2*warp_disruptor sensor_booster
Low: 800t2, medrep_t2, 2*energized_t2, 1*whatever_actuve hardenert2.
t2 heavy.
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