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Helios Aquiness
Perkone Caldari State
30
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Posted - 2013.11.27 16:03:00 -
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I use AP all the time, the trick is to not be carrying anything valuble. Or if in a freighter, not have more than 400 million isk of cargo. Carebear? Im a brony, motherf***er. |

qwiksilver Oriki
Iron Wolf Industries
0
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Posted - 2013.11.27 16:27:00 -
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Autopilot is useful in certain situations, if you're running multiple accounts at once and the time it takes 2 of them to get to a destination its quite useful and lets you focus attention on other pilots that are where they need to be. |

Cpt Tirel
65
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Posted - 2013.11.27 16:38:00 -
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I think ship speed should determine how far you land from the gate when autopiloting at least. |

Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
189
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Posted - 2013.11.27 17:00:00 -
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I think autopilot should act exactly like clicking on each system on the overview and jumping as soon as you get into a new system.
If it did that, it would be a useful feature.
The way it is now it is not useful, yet I can still pilot by clicking 'jump' in each system myself.
So changing autopilot would not change the game much, but it would make long journeys (which is NOT what EVE should be about - EVE's about what happens when you get there) more tolerable for the players. IE, I could go do something else while my ship traveled and if I came back to a pod, I would at least understand that there wasn't going to be much I could have done even if I had been manually piloting.
If they don't change it I won't be mad or anything but I believe that having a button that does better than autopilot makes autopilot mostly obsolete.
I'm not sure why CCP would want us sitting there playing EVE as opposed to being able to automate the boring portion of EVE. I would lobby for instant transfers to anywhere but that's already a feature with jump clones and would mess up a lot of things. So travel time is necessary but what's the point of making it a manual process over an automated one? There's no ads they want me there to click through, and I'm watching another screen waiting for the jump sound anyway. They're still getting their sub money, so why does travel need to be such a chore? |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17569
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Posted - 2013.11.27 17:15:00 -
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Jythier Smith wrote:I think autopilot should act exactly like clicking on each system on the overview and jumping as soon as you get into a new system.
If it did that, it would be a useful feature. GǪexcept, of course, that it's a useful feature as it is, so there's no need for that level of automation. Being at the keyboard rewards you with faster travel GÇö this is a good thing.
Quote:If they don't change it I won't be mad or anything but I believe that having a button that does better than autopilot makes autopilot mostly obsolete. The button in question doesn't really do what the autopilot does, though. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Fractal Muse
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
288
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Posted - 2013.11.27 17:18:00 -
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I autopilot in a pod, is that bad?
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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
476
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Posted - 2013.11.27 17:21:00 -
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Jythier Smith wrote:IE, I could go do something else while my ship traveled and if I came back to a pod, I would at least understand that there wasn't going to be much I could have done even if I had been manually piloting. You are literally asking for the game to play itself.
Sure, travel is pretty boring. That's why it's one of the few things in the game where you have the option to automate it, for a price. If you want a game which is nothing but instant gratification 110% of the time, I suggest Call of Duty.
Upgrading OP to 5/10 for getting me to respond seriously to a thread from 2007. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4915
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Posted - 2013.11.27 17:51:00 -
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No, you're not going to get an autopilot that is as efficient as flying manually.
No, you're not going to be able to go AFK on autopilot and be immune to being ganked.
Faster travel makes the universe smaller, which we don't need. Indeed, if we need anything it is for travel to be even more dangerous than it is now, so as to keep you from being so bored. 
There, problem solved. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Iria Ahrens
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
99
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Posted - 2013.11.27 18:02:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:Because CCP wants you to play the game, not click a button and come back in 30 minutes. yea. How people do this: 1) press 1 button ""jump" to next gate 2) put Eve Client window on back, switch to other window with pron or something 3) wait for animation of actual jumping, switch to Eve Client and repeat from step 1.
Wait! How did you know I was reading pron? Are you spying on me?
Cannibal Kane wrote:Why OP...
Hello There...
Cannibal ... Your avatar needs a red flowing cape or something. You have that super hero pose down. Because you disdained all my counsel, and my reproof you ignoredGÇö I, in my turn, will laugh at your doom; will mock when terror overtakes you; -- Ultimate Griefer's Handbook |

Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
221
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Posted - 2013.11.27 18:10:00 -
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Ebs Tarmin wrote:Autopilot is broken -why don't CCP fix it? -No experienced players use it.
Before we had the jump option on gates I sort of used autopilot back when I had a slower than dirt computer.
After entering a system warp to the next gate and engage the autopilot. This way if there was a large camp at the gate I wasn't fumbling with the right click to jump at the gate.
After jumping I would turn off autopilot and repeat to the next gate.
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Winchester Steele
242
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Posted - 2013.11.27 18:12:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:No, you're not going to get an autopilot that is as efficient as flying manually. No, you're not going to be able to go AFK on autopilot and be immune to being ganked. Faster travel makes the universe smaller, which we don't need. Indeed, if we need anything it is for travel to be even more dangerous than it is now, so as to keep you from being so bored.  There, problem solved.
Remove Concord. Problem solved. ... |

Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
221
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Posted - 2013.11.27 18:20:00 -
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Richard Ramlrez wrote:They should rename autopilot to deathtrap pilot. Indeed a useless game tool.
Perhaps Death Race |

Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
189
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Posted - 2013.11.27 18:30:00 -
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I use my programming skills to automate stuff all the time.
I do this because when I do it, it does things better and quicker and with less mistakes than manual operation.
So autopilot doing a job that I could program a bot to do instead (hit jump button on system change) and the bot that I programmed would do it better. It's an incorrect game design decision, because those who really care will sit there and manually jump (as I do). So I'm not asking for any safety, I'm asking for autopilot to be an automatic pilot, not an automatic idiot.
As for wanting the game to play itself... is there really a difference here? I've set destination, and all I do is go into the game and press 'jump' every system as opposed to not having to do that. That's the difference here. I'm NOT ACTUALLY PLAYING A GAME. The decisions that make up the gamespace have already been made - I'm going to wherever. That's set. What you're asking me to do is sit there and babysit a game that really doesn't need it with a very small tweak. Once the decision is made, why can't I have a computer (my gosh, we've invented those in real life that work better!) do the grunt work of pressing 'jump' every system change? Is that really too much to ask in a computer game?
What you appear to be missing is where the 'fun' is in EVE. I'm guessing, pressing the 'jump' button 15 times isn't fun for most people. Why are you so opposed to ditching that? |

Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
476
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Posted - 2013.11.27 18:34:00 -
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Jythier Smith wrote:I use my programming skills to automate stuff all the time. And now we have drones and robot soldiers, so I guess all shooters should come with autoaim?
Jythier Smith wrote:As for wanting the game to play itself... is there really a difference here? It's a big enough difference that it's gotten you onto the forums whining about it.
Jythier Smith wrote:What you appear to be missing is where the 'fun' is in EVE. "If you want a game which is nothing but instant gratification 110% of the time, I suggest Call of Duty." [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |

Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
189
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Posted - 2013.11.27 18:38:00 -
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I just participate on the forums and chimed in on a thread that someone else started. I didn't come here to whine about autopilot, but since it was brought up, I had some thoughts to kick in.
I'm sorry you want your entertainment to suck.
If you want a game that makes you babysit it while a predetermined outcome occurs, I suggest Candyland. |

Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
189
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Posted - 2013.11.27 18:41:00 -
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Draw a card... one yellow... move ahead to yellow... draw a card... one yellow... move ahead to yellow.
I guess Candyland might be too exciting for you, because you don't know what color you're going to draw next. So traveling in EVE is more like playing Candyland with all the cards face up. |

Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
476
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Posted - 2013.11.27 18:42:00 -
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Jythier Smith wrote:I'm sorry you want your entertainment to suck. So EVE sucks then?
In that case, can I have your stuff? [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |

Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
189
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Posted - 2013.11.27 18:46:00 -
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Crumplecorn wrote:Jythier Smith wrote:I'm sorry you want your entertainment to suck. So EVE sucks then? In that case, can I have your stuff?
Contract sent. |

Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
476
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Posted - 2013.11.27 18:49:00 -
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Jythier Smith wrote:Crumplecorn wrote:Jythier Smith wrote:I'm sorry you want your entertainment to suck. So EVE sucks then? In that case, can I have your stuff? Contract sent. Stuff gratefully received. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |

Gealbhan
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
485
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Posted - 2013.11.27 18:52:00 -
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If you use AP at all then it is you who are broken, not the game. |
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Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
189
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Posted - 2013.11.27 18:53:00 -
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Crumplecorn wrote:Jythier Smith wrote:Crumplecorn wrote:Jythier Smith wrote:I'm sorry you want your entertainment to suck. So EVE sucks then? In that case, can I have your stuff? Contract sent. Stuff gratefully received.
... will you play Candyland with me? |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17570
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Posted - 2013.11.27 18:54:00 -
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Gealbhan wrote:If you use AP at all then it is you who are broken, not the game.  If you don't understand the tool that is the AP GÇö what it can do, what it could do but shouldn't, and what it can't do GÇö you're broken. Not using the AP is about as bad an idea as relying on it. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Hiryu Jin
Enterprise Estonia Northern Coalition.
30
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Posted - 2013.11.27 19:19:00 -
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damn I remember when there was no warp-to-zero and everyone had to slowboat to gates or create/buy bm's for every gate. Now you want it to be even easier. Maybe in a few more patches, there will be so much automation, you won't even have to login anymore. |

Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
193
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Posted - 2013.11.27 19:28:00 -
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Hiryu Jin wrote:damn I remember when there was no warp-to-zero and everyone had to slowboat to gates or create/buy bm's for every gate. Now you want it to be even easier. Maybe in a few more patches, there will be so much automation, you won't even have to login anymore.
Technically, I don't have to log in now. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
1143
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Posted - 2013.11.27 19:31:00 -
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Autopilot is like Abortion
Better to have it and not need it than need it and
NOT HAVE IT High Priestess of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh "You are, quite literally, the best person ever." --áDomanique Altares,-áRifterlings "Send Ramona your ISK, and biomass." --áJarod Garamonde,-áSardaukar Merc Guild |

Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
193
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Posted - 2013.11.27 19:31:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote: Autopilot is like Abortion
Better to have it and not need it than need it and
NOT HAVE IT
No it isn't. |

Hiryu Jin
Enterprise Estonia Northern Coalition.
30
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Posted - 2013.11.27 19:33:00 -
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Jythier Smith wrote:Hiryu Jin wrote:damn I remember when there was no warp-to-zero and everyone had to slowboat to gates or create/buy bm's for every gate. Now you want it to be even easier. Maybe in a few more patches, there will be so much automation, you won't even have to login anymore. Technically, I don't have to log in now. I think you should take advantage of that feature immediately. |

Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
193
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Posted - 2013.11.27 19:33:00 -
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Hiryu Jin wrote:damn I remember when there was no warp-to-zero and everyone had to slowboat to gates or create/buy bm's for every gate. Now you want it to be even easier. Maybe in a few more patches, there will be so much automation, you won't even have to login anymore.
It's almost as if they decided something was not very entertaining (bookmarking all gates) and fixed it.
I wonder if they'll do that with any other part of EVE. |

Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
193
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Posted - 2013.11.27 19:33:00 -
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Hiryu Jin wrote:Jythier Smith wrote:Hiryu Jin wrote:damn I remember when there was no warp-to-zero and everyone had to slowboat to gates or create/buy bm's for every gate. Now you want it to be even easier. Maybe in a few more patches, there will be so much automation, you won't even have to login anymore. Technically, I don't have to log in now. I think you should take advantage of that feature immediately.
Naw, I enjoy EVE, so I think I'll keep playing, but thanks for the alternative suggestion. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
1143
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Posted - 2013.11.27 19:34:00 -
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Jythier Smith wrote:
No it isn't.
OH yes it is High Priestess of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh "You are, quite literally, the best person ever." --áDomanique Altares,-áRifterlings "Send Ramona your ISK, and biomass." --áJarod Garamonde,-áSardaukar Merc Guild |
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