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Ebs Tarmin
Angels 0f Death
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Posted - 2013.11.27 10:36:00 -
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Autopilot is broken -why don't CCP fix it?
-No experienced players use it. -They only players that do use it are newbies who don't know any better, and specialist haulers. -What's the point of having a game feature if nobody uses it? -Adjusting it so you warped to within (say) 5km of gates would make it a useful feature that people would actually use.
The only reason I can see for it being the way it is, is to make 'autopiloters' gankable (essentially: everybody else suffers so a handful of bored, killmail-obsessed, oldtimer trolls can gank folk).
I regularly have to do 'the Jita run' which involves 24+ jumps, having to right click 'Jump' on the gate in the Overview every time is just hassle. Why does it have to be this way?
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I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
723
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Posted - 2013.11.27 10:38:00 -
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Ebs Tarmin wrote:Autopilot is broken -why don't CCP fix it?
-No experienced players use it. -They only players that do use it are newbies who don't know any better, and specialist haulers. -What's the point of having a game feature if nobody uses it? -Adjusting it so you warped to within (say) 5km of gates would make it a useful feature that people would actually use.
The only reason I can see for it being the way it is, is to make 'autopiloters' gankable (essentially: everybody else suffers so a handful of bored, killmail-obsessed, oldtimer trolls can gank folk).
I regularly have to do 'the Jita run' which involves 24+ jumps, having to right click 'Jump' on the gate in the Overview every time is just hassle. Why does it have to be this way?
Stop right clicking, use the radial menu. Should lessen your issues.  *removed inappropriate signature* - CCP Eterne |

Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
854
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Posted - 2013.11.27 10:39:00 -
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Ebs Tarmin wrote:Autopilot is broken -why don't CCP fix it?
-No experienced players use it. -They only players that do use it are newbies who don't know any better, and specialist haulers. -What's the point of having a game feature if nobody uses it? -Adjusting it so you warped to within (say) 5km of gates would make it a useful feature that people would actually use.
The only reason I can see for it being the way it is, is to make 'autopiloters' gankable (essentially: everybody else suffers so a handful of bored, killmail-obsessed, oldtimer trolls can gank folk).
I regularly have to do 'the Jita run' which involves 24+ jumps, having to right click 'Jump' on the gate in the Overview every time is just hassle. Why does it have to be this way?
You use AP in high sec whatn you want to go get somethign to eat, or take a shower while you move your shuttle around.
Nothign wrong with that.
"If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |

Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
2017
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Posted - 2013.11.27 10:39:00 -
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Because CCP wants you to play the game, not click a button and come back in 30 minutes. |

Icarus Able
Traverse Holdings Setting The Universe on Fire
177
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Posted - 2013.11.27 10:39:00 -
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APing ceptors is good. Or just in your pod because you wanna go cook something. Plenty of people use it just people with expensive clones dont. |

Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1201
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Posted - 2013.11.27 10:41:00 -
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Ebs Tarmin wrote:Autopilot is broken -why don't CCP fix it?
-No experienced players use it. -They only players that do use it are newbies who don't know any better, and specialist haulers. -What's the point of having a game feature if nobody uses it? -Adjusting it so you warped to within (say) 5km of gates would make it a useful feature that people would actually use.
The only reason I can see for it being the way it is, is to make 'autopiloters' gankable (essentially: everybody else suffers so a handful of bored, killmail-obsessed, oldtimer trolls can gank folk).
I regularly have to do 'the Jita run' which involves 24+ jumps, having to right click 'Jump' on the gate in the Overview every time is just hassle. Why does it have to be this way?
Think I got some Mark II armor around here... lemme see... hmm.
Ah, there it is! /pulls skeleton in blue overall from metal armor and hands it over to Ebs. Slightly used but should keep you safe from most harm. 
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GreenSeed
753
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Posted - 2013.11.27 10:43:00 -
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Ebs Tarmin wrote: I regularly have to do 'the Jita run' which involves 24+ jumps, having to right click 'Jump' on the gate in the Overview every time is just hassle. Why does it have to be this way?
you know there's a hotkey, right?
bind it to mouse3 or mouse4. |

Mr Pragmatic
728
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Posted - 2013.11.27 10:46:00 -
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I've been playing 2 years and I AP all the time. Food, Shower, Family, Door, Phone. Or just plain don't feel like clicking and traveling long distances.
Nothing is wrong with AP. Keep it as it is. Super cali hella yolo swaga dopeness. -á-Yoloswaggins, in the fellowship of the bling. |

Mascha Tzash
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
110
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Posted - 2013.11.27 10:48:00 -
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GreenSeed wrote:Ebs Tarmin wrote: I regularly have to do 'the Jita run' which involves 24+ jumps, having to right click 'Jump' on the gate in the Overview every time is just hassle. Why does it have to be this way?
you know there's a hotkey, right? bind it to mouse3 or mouse4.
I think it was "D" by default. Automation is allways a bad thing |

Dextrome Thorphan
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
15
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Posted - 2013.11.27 11:03:00 -
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I Love Boobies wrote:Ebs Tarmin wrote:Autopilot is broken -why don't CCP fix it?
-No experienced players use it. -They only players that do use it are newbies who don't know any better, and specialist haulers. -What's the point of having a game feature if nobody uses it? -Adjusting it so you warped to within (say) 5km of gates would make it a useful feature that people would actually use.
The only reason I can see for it being the way it is, is to make 'autopiloters' gankable (essentially: everybody else suffers so a handful of bored, killmail-obsessed, oldtimer trolls can gank folk).
I regularly have to do 'the Jita run' which involves 24+ jumps, having to right click 'Jump' on the gate in the Overview every time is just hassle. Why does it have to be this way?
Stop right clicking, use the radial menu. Should lessen your issues. 
Just left click the jump button in your overview header... the game automatically selects the next stargate in your travelroute when jumping into a system, so all it takes is 1 leftclick per system  |

Cavalira
Valar Morghulis. Goonswarm Federation
209
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Posted - 2013.11.27 11:10:00 -
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The tutorial is broken. Seriously. No experienced player use it. Why have something in the game that no one uses? |

Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
467
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Posted - 2013.11.27 11:19:00 -
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Got some responses, but no wharblgarblgarblgbtowow. Gonna have to give this a 2/10. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |

Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
614
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Posted - 2013.11.27 11:20:00 -
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Ebs Tarmin wrote:Autopilot is broken -why don't CCP fix it?
-No experienced players use it. -The only players that do use it are newbies who don't know any better, and specialist haulers. -What's the point of having a game feature if nobody uses it? -Adjusting it so you warped to within (say) 5km of gates would make it a useful feature that people would actually use.
The only reason I can see for it being the way it is, is to make 'autopiloters' gankable (essentially: everybody else suffers so a handful of bored, killmail-obsessed, oldtimer trolls can gank folk).
I regularly have to do 'the Jita run' which involves 24+ jumps, having to right click 'Jump' on the gate in the Overview every time is just hassle. Why does it have to be this way?
Press D for jump/dock Fluffy Bunny Pic! |

Cheng Musana
Purple Space Ponys AAA Citizens
30
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Posted - 2013.11.27 11:45:00 -
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I use it when im in highsec with something like a atron or shuttle. Apart from that i dont really advise the usage of the auto pilot in low or nullsec. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17555
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Posted - 2013.11.27 11:48:00 -
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How is it broken?
Plenty of people are using it for more and less intelligent reasons. Its ability to auto-dock you when you jump to an off-axis close docking point is particularly useful, for instance. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
2697
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Posted - 2013.11.27 11:54:00 -
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Mr Pragmatic wrote:I've been playing 2 years and I AP all the time. Food, Shower, Family, Door, Phone. Or just plain don't feel like clicking and traveling long distances.
Nothing is wrong with AP. Keep it as it is.
I've added you to the list, thanks. See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |

Mamucha
Rookie Empire Citizens Rookie Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.11.27 12:04:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:Because CCP wants you to play the game, not click a button and come back in 30 minutes.
Maybe CCP should buff freighter align and warps speeds then  We were recruiting. |

Richard Ramlrez
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
49
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Posted - 2013.11.27 12:06:00 -
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They should rename autopilot to deathtrap pilot. Indeed a useless game tool. |

Mr Pragmatic
729
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Posted - 2013.11.27 12:10:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:Mr Pragmatic wrote:I've been playing 2 years and I AP all the time. Food, Shower, Family, Door, Phone. Or just plain don't feel like clicking and traveling long distances.
Nothing is wrong with AP. Keep it as it is. I've added you to the list, thanks.
I'll give you 1 trillion Interstellar Kredits, if you gank me. Super cali hella yolo swaga dopeness. -á-Yoloswaggins, in the fellowship of the bling. |

Seven Koskanaiken
Sons Of Saints Circle-Of-Two
511
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Posted - 2013.11.27 12:17:00 -
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Ebs Tarmin wrote:The only reason I can see for it being the way it is, is to make 'autopiloters' gankable (essentially: everybody else suffers so a handful of bored, killmail-obsessed, oldtimer trolls can gank folk).
Using a bot is always a bad idea, even if the game gives the bot to you.
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March rabbit
True Horde
888
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Posted - 2013.11.27 12:18:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:Because CCP wants you to play the game, not click a button and come back in 30 minutes. yea. How people do this: 1) press 1 button ""jump" to next gate 2) put Eve Client window on back, switch to other window with pron or something 3) wait for animation of actual jumping, switch to Eve Client and repeat from step 1.
That's really amazing game 
And for serious discussion: any ideas how to make task "move some cheap crap 20 jumps in freighter over high-sec" more interesting and "true-Eve style" game? The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Grunanca
Doughboys Shadow Cartel
94
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Posted - 2013.11.27 12:26:00 -
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Ebs Tarmin wrote:Autopilot is broken -why don't CCP fix it?
-No experienced players use it. -The only players that do use it are newbies who don't know any better, and specialist haulers. -What's the point of having a game feature if nobody uses it? -Adjusting it so you warped to within (say) 5km of gates would make it a useful feature that people would actually use.
The only reason I can see for it being the way it is, is to make 'autopiloters' gankable (essentially: everybody else suffers so a handful of bored, killmail-obsessed, oldtimer trolls can gank folk).
I regularly have to do 'the Jita run' which involves 24+ jumps, having to right click 'Jump' on the gate in the Overview every time is just hassle. Why does it have to be this way?
Seems to me like you got no clue... I use autopilot on my alt all the time. I have him haul while I pvp. The art is to use heavily tanked ships or freighters to move low value stuff or very little high value, so a suicide gank can never be profitable. Especially after Rubicon, my weekly rens-jita freighter run has turned into afk. Autopilot is fine. Its all about the cost of lazyness. if you want to be lazy like me, be sure its gonna hurt anyone wanting to hurt you more. |

Annette Nolen
Red Frog Freight Red-Frog
4
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Posted - 2013.11.27 13:35:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:And for serious discussion: any ideas how to make task "move some cheap crap 20 jumps in freighter over high-sec" more interesting and "true-Eve style" game?
Use Red Frog. Nothing is more "true-Eve style" than paying someone else to do your dirty work. Well... except maybe ganking them while they do it. |

March rabbit
True Horde
890
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Posted - 2013.11.27 14:07:00 -
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Annette Nolen wrote:March rabbit wrote:And for serious discussion: any ideas how to make task "move some cheap crap 20 jumps in freighter over high-sec" more interesting and "true-Eve style" game? Use Red Frog. Nothing is more "true-Eve style" than paying someone else to do your dirty work. Well... except maybe ganking them while they do it. yea. i see your point.
However my question is wider: i ask not about me but about all players. It means i ask about Reg-Frog pilots too. Because using this service only solves boredom of hauling for me. But some RF pilot will deal with this boredom for my ISK (only if pilots of RF are humans and not bots but this is outside of this discussion) The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17557
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Posted - 2013.11.27 14:13:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:However my question is wider: i ask not about me but about all players. It means i ask about Reg-Frog pilots too. Because using this service only solves boredom of hauling for me. But some RF pilot will deal with this boredom for my ISK (only if pilots of RF are humans and not bots but this is outside of this discussion) Then again, hours of boredom (followed by a few minutes of sheer panic) is pretty much part of the true EVE experience as well. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Cannibal Kane
My Little Ponies of the Apocalypse Cannibal Empire
2781
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Posted - 2013.11.27 14:42:00 -
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Why OP...
Hello There... "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1529
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Posted - 2013.11.27 14:52:00 -
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Autopilot is just fine the way it is. Set destination. Set medical clone to destination station. Shower/pay attention to SO/take legendary poop/whatever. Arrive at destination one way or the other! |

Careby
Careby Exploration
99
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Posted - 2013.11.27 15:09:00 -
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The increased risk that comes with using Autopilot is appropriate. I do think teaching new players to use it in the tutorial is pretty silly.
I use Autopilot for one thing. After lighting a cyno, I set my course to the station I'm sitting next to, and punch the AP button. There is a fair to middling chance it will dock my pod after my ship is destroyed, or maybe even the ship if I'm lucky enough that nobody shoots it before the timer runs out. I don't remember where I heard about this, but thanks to whomever suggested it.
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Tydeth Gilitae
Magewright Artificers
34
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Posted - 2013.11.27 15:42:00 -
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I tried autopilot as a rookie. I found the 15km slowboating to be annoying (having been not afk during use), and it absolutely sucked as a panic I'm-getting-shot-at-in-Low-Sec-RUN retreat button (During newbie-panic, I forgot about the slowboating. Results: Predictable). Granted, its entire point is to grant you the convenience of not having to manually fly 100 jumps around High-sec, in exchange for improved likelihood of getting popped.
Never again. 1 jump or 100, I've stuck with manual. The setting of a destination/route so you don't get lost is nice; I just don't let my ship fly itself through the route. |

Batelle
Komm susser Tod
515
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Posted - 2013.11.27 15:49:00 -
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Ebs Tarmin wrote: -No experienced players use it.
Really? no one?
8 years here and I still find it a situational but useful feature. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
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