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Drused
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Posted - 2006.02.27 03:18:00 -
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I don't see what the deal is with an If statement or the equivalent being used. If runs = Unlimted => Use Icon RedBP, else Use Icon Blue BP.
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Drused
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Posted - 2006.02.27 03:18:00 -
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I don't see what the deal is with an If statement or the equivalent being used. If runs = Unlimted => Use Icon RedBP, else Use Icon Blue BP.
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Drused
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Posted - 2006.02.27 03:18:00 -
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I don't see what the deal is with an If statement or the equivalent being used. If runs = Unlimted => Use Icon RedBP, else Use Icon Blue BP.
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Drused
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Posted - 2006.02.27 03:18:00 -
[334]
I don't see what the deal is with an If statement or the equivalent being used. If runs = Unlimted => Use Icon RedBP, else Use Icon Blue BP.
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Drused
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Posted - 2006.02.27 03:18:00 -
[335]
I don't see what the deal is with an If statement or the equivalent being used. If runs = Unlimted => Use Icon RedBP, else Use Icon Blue BP.
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Drused
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Posted - 2006.02.27 03:18:00 -
[336]
I don't see what the deal is with an If statement or the equivalent being used. If runs = Unlimted => Use Icon RedBP, else Use Icon Blue BP.
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Drused
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Posted - 2006.02.27 03:18:00 -
[337]
I don't see what the deal is with an If statement or the equivalent being used. If runs = Unlimted => Use Icon RedBP, else Use Icon Blue BP.
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Drused
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Posted - 2006.02.27 03:18:00 -
[338]
I don't see what the deal is with an If statement or the equivalent being used. If runs = Unlimted => Use Icon RedBP, else Use Icon Blue BP.
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G Dabak
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Posted - 2006.02.27 05:15:00 -
[339]
Everyone always becomes Mr. Programmer and says "well you can just do codeblahblahsqlquery" but in something the scale of EVE it's going to be very complicated. Hacking in something that checks for BPs in a result or rewriting the way BPs work is probably unacceptably difficult or costly in performance.
But I bet they'll figure out some solution eventually, like some kind of special corporate blueprint storage or something.
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G Dabak
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Posted - 2006.02.27 05:15:00 -
[340]
Everyone always becomes Mr. Programmer and says "well you can just do codeblahblahsqlquery" but in something the scale of EVE it's going to be very complicated. Hacking in something that checks for BPs in a result or rewriting the way BPs work is probably unacceptably difficult or costly in performance.
But I bet they'll figure out some solution eventually, like some kind of special corporate blueprint storage or something.
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G Dabak
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Posted - 2006.02.27 05:15:00 -
[341]
Everyone always becomes Mr. Programmer and says "well you can just do codeblahblahsqlquery" but in something the scale of EVE it's going to be very complicated. Hacking in something that checks for BPs in a result or rewriting the way BPs work is probably unacceptably difficult or costly in performance.
But I bet they'll figure out some solution eventually, like some kind of special corporate blueprint storage or something.
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G Dabak
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Posted - 2006.02.27 05:15:00 -
[342]
Everyone always becomes Mr. Programmer and says "well you can just do codeblahblahsqlquery" but in something the scale of EVE it's going to be very complicated. Hacking in something that checks for BPs in a result or rewriting the way BPs work is probably unacceptably difficult or costly in performance.
But I bet they'll figure out some solution eventually, like some kind of special corporate blueprint storage or something.
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G Dabak
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Posted - 2006.02.27 05:15:00 -
[343]
Everyone always becomes Mr. Programmer and says "well you can just do codeblahblahsqlquery" but in something the scale of EVE it's going to be very complicated. Hacking in something that checks for BPs in a result or rewriting the way BPs work is probably unacceptably difficult or costly in performance.
But I bet they'll figure out some solution eventually, like some kind of special corporate blueprint storage or something.
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Da Death
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Posted - 2006.02.27 05:27:00 -
[344]
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Da Death
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Posted - 2006.02.27 05:27:00 -
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Da Death
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Posted - 2006.02.27 05:27:00 -
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Da Death
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Posted - 2006.02.27 05:27:00 -
[347]
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Da Death
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Posted - 2006.02.27 05:27:00 -
[348]
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Max Grief
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Posted - 2006.02.27 06:54:00 -
[349]
The weird thing is.......... back during EVE:TSG They HAD different icon's the blueprints were a dark blue and the copy's were a more opaque blue with the picture of the item almost white.
I'm sure a few of you remember. Why did that ever go away? It was useful.
But a Red-Blue setup would be nice, cause thats pretty idiot proof.
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Max Grief
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Posted - 2006.02.27 06:54:00 -
[350]
The weird thing is.......... back during EVE:TSG They HAD different icon's the blueprints were a dark blue and the copy's were a more opaque blue with the picture of the item almost white.
I'm sure a few of you remember. Why did that ever go away? It was useful.
But a Red-Blue setup would be nice, cause thats pretty idiot proof.
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Max Grief
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Posted - 2006.02.27 06:54:00 -
[351]
The weird thing is.......... back during EVE:TSG They HAD different icon's the blueprints were a dark blue and the copy's were a more opaque blue with the picture of the item almost white.
I'm sure a few of you remember. Why did that ever go away? It was useful.
But a Red-Blue setup would be nice, cause thats pretty idiot proof.
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Max Grief
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Posted - 2006.02.27 06:54:00 -
[352]
The weird thing is.......... back during EVE:TSG They HAD different icon's the blueprints were a dark blue and the copy's were a more opaque blue with the picture of the item almost white.
I'm sure a few of you remember. Why did that ever go away? It was useful.
But a Red-Blue setup would be nice, cause thats pretty idiot proof.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.02.27 07:00:00 -
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The devs are not willing to duplicate the number of entries for BP in the database for making BPO different from BPC.
That probably would be the prerequisite to give the BPC a different look, and what would be even more interesting, the #runs left on the icon ... *wanders off having an idea* --*=*=*-- Megadon CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray |

Tachy
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Posted - 2006.02.27 07:00:00 -
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The devs are not willing to duplicate the number of entries for BP in the database for making BPO different from BPC.
That probably would be the prerequisite to give the BPC a different look, and what would be even more interesting, the #runs left on the icon ... *wanders off having an idea* --*=*=*-- Megadon CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray |

Tachy
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Posted - 2006.02.27 07:00:00 -
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The devs are not willing to duplicate the number of entries for BP in the database for making BPO different from BPC.
That probably would be the prerequisite to give the BPC a different look, and what would be even more interesting, the #runs left on the icon ... *wanders off having an idea* --*=*=*-- Megadon CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray |

Tachy
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Posted - 2006.02.27 07:00:00 -
[356]
The devs are not willing to duplicate the number of entries for BP in the database for making BPO different from BPC.
That probably would be the prerequisite to give the BPC a different look, and what would be even more interesting, the #runs left on the icon ... *wanders off having an idea* --*=*=*-- Megadon CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray |

Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.02.27 09:15:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Bawldeux IV seems easy.
bpc has limited runs or another atribute that makes it different then a bpo, so just use that as a flag, and bpo gets original graphic, bpc gets a different graphic, simple, has only to use the exisiting db fields, and can be client side, simple huh...
The claim was that in order to do that the client would have to request all the database entries for the BPO, not just the header. However, as stated before, this claim is BS as this exact thing has been done for ages in the factory system just fine.
yes, but how often do you open the factory compared to opening a general container/cargohold? Well okay, asking you that might not be the best idea in the world, but you get the point 
Here's an idea: Make copies of some random bookmarks that equal the number of bpos/bpcs in your hangar at the moment. Drop them into your main station hangar and then relog. Now try and open your hangar. The lag you're getting is the result of having to do deep database searches on another table to get the name of each bookmark. The principle is exactly the same for getting the number of runs on a blueprint in order to display them differently.
Originally by: Zzazzt
Originally by: thoth foc PA doesnt stand for anything..
Punchbag Alliance...
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.02.27 09:15:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Bawldeux IV seems easy.
bpc has limited runs or another atribute that makes it different then a bpo, so just use that as a flag, and bpo gets original graphic, bpc gets a different graphic, simple, has only to use the exisiting db fields, and can be client side, simple huh...
The claim was that in order to do that the client would have to request all the database entries for the BPO, not just the header. However, as stated before, this claim is BS as this exact thing has been done for ages in the factory system just fine.
yes, but how often do you open the factory compared to opening a general container/cargohold? Well okay, asking you that might not be the best idea in the world, but you get the point 
Here's an idea: Make copies of some random bookmarks that equal the number of bpos/bpcs in your hangar at the moment. Drop them into your main station hangar and then relog. Now try and open your hangar. The lag you're getting is the result of having to do deep database searches on another table to get the name of each bookmark. The principle is exactly the same for getting the number of runs on a blueprint in order to display them differently.
Originally by: Zzazzt
Originally by: thoth foc PA doesnt stand for anything..
Punchbag Alliance...
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Calleb
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Posted - 2006.02.27 09:36:00 -
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This must be one of the longest running arguments in EVE. Since the first copy was made people have been asking for a way diferentiate between originals and copies.
I guess there realy must be some sort of problem in doing this within the programing else it would have been fixed by now. I agree with some of the posts above that it would on the surface seem easy to put an "original" overlay on top of BPO icons (nothing else would need to be added to the vastly higher number of copies, and would remain unchanged) but i dont know how the program is structured so i have to accept what we have been told hundreds of times before.
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Calleb
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Posted - 2006.02.27 09:36:00 -
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This must be one of the longest running arguments in EVE. Since the first copy was made people have been asking for a way diferentiate between originals and copies.
I guess there realy must be some sort of problem in doing this within the programing else it would have been fixed by now. I agree with some of the posts above that it would on the surface seem easy to put an "original" overlay on top of BPO icons (nothing else would need to be added to the vastly higher number of copies, and would remain unchanged) but i dont know how the program is structured so i have to accept what we have been told hundreds of times before.
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