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Zak Simeon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.27 17:42:00 -
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http://io9.com/5963263/how-nasa-will-build-its-very-first-warp-drive
(I know the article is old, but after Rubicon expansion it's more relevant than ever.) |
Mizhir
Euphoria Released
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2013.11.27 17:45:00 -
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In before "CCP copied stratios from _____"
One Man Crew - The official Bringing Solo Back contest
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Robby Altair
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Posted - 2013.11.27 20:37:00 -
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We wanted a DeathStar.
It is GIGO application development. |
Matokin Lemant
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Posted - 2013.11.27 23:32:00 -
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That is actually pretty dam cool...lets hope NASA and the administration actually sticks to this not like the cancelled constellation program |
Eli Green
The Arrow Project
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Posted - 2013.11.28 00:24:00 -
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I'm fairly sure in a video devblog the artist dude die mention that they drew inspiration from the Alcubierre drive concepts.
wumbo |
Rana Ash
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2013.11.28 12:00:00 -
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Mizhir wrote:In before "CCP copied stratios from _____" Vulcans 
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2013.11.28 16:14:00 -
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Hmmm....
"a new design that could significantly reduce the amount of exotic matter required [...] reduction in mass from a Jupiter-sized planet to an object that weighs a mere 1600 pounds"
Translated ?
"We no longer need an unconceivable amount of energy and a planet's worth of material which may or may not exist, we only need a small car's worth of a material which might or might not exist"
Translated even more?
"Yeah, we just need to find some Eezo somewhere in the solar system and we're totally set for FTL drives, in a few decades after we find some, if we ever find some."
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Dangirdas Bachir
Direct Support Initiative
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Posted - 2013.11.28 20:09:00 -
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CCP SUE THEM!!!
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Zak Simeon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.29 07:48:00 -
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Akita T wrote:Hmmm....
Translated even more?
"Yeah, we just need to find some Eezo somewhere in the solar system and we're totally set for FTL drives, in a few decades after we find some, if we ever find some."
You're looking this from a bottom-down perspective. If you look this from a bottom-up perspective this is progress, since needing an equivalent of Jupiter's mass of this exotic material is a bigger challenge than needing 1600 pounds.
Science is full of serendipitous and unexpected findings and that is why I don't like to constrain myself with contemporary realism ;)
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2013.11.30 01:05:00 -
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Zak Simeon wrote:You're looking this from a bottom-down perspective. If you look this from a bottom-up perspective this is progress, since needing an equivalent of Jupiter's mass of this exotic material is a bigger challenge than needing 1600 pounds.
The problem is, there might never be even a single particle of this type of material, let alone a few grams, or several pounds.
We're not talking "antimatter" types of exotic matter, we're talking "tachyon" or "Minovsky particle", or, indeed, "Eezo" types of exotic matter (as in, a negative energy density particle, which is basically medium-hardness-level SciFi).
Sure, some say that some murky offshoot of the Casimir effect might possibly be a way to maybe substitute for that negative energy density so you don't actually have to find or produce this odd type of exotic matter, but other physicists argue that it's not likely to be possible to do so at all (not even theoretically, let alone practically). Then again, who knows.
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Zak Simeon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.30 11:50:00 -
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Akita T wrote:[quote=Zak Simeon]The problem is, there might never be even a single particle of this type of material, let alone a few grams, or several pounds.
I realize that, but as I'm sure you're very well aware of, absence of evidence is not an evidence of absence. FTL travel being theoretically possible in an universe where this kind of exotic material exists, is much more exciting than FTL travel not being possible in any circumstance.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2013.11.30 13:36:00 -
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Well, *this* type of FTL travel might be not possible in this universe, but there's a (slight) chance a different type of FTL travel could be possible.
Then again, given what we think we know about the physical laws of the universe, FTL travel should very likely imply the possibility of time travel, and that's an even bigger can of worms, so it might as well be that FTL travel is actually impossible in THIS universe.
Now, maybe we could bypass that through another universe, but that gets iffy, so... eh.
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baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.30 14:20:00 -
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Wormholes.
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Zak Simeon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.30 16:17:00 -
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Akita T wrote:Then again, given what we think we know about the physical laws of the universe, FTL travel should very likely imply the possibility of time travel, and that's an even bigger can of worms, so it might as well be that FTL travel is actually impossible in THIS universe.
The kind of FTL travel described in the article would bypass the limits of moving in space and the implications of time travel associated with FTL travel. The ship using this Alcubierre-drive would not move in space, but space would contract and expand around it. I don't mean to imply that you didn't understand that from the article. I'm just saying that given what we think we know about the physical laws of the universe, like you said, this kind of FTL travel would not imply time travel.
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