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Chopper Rollins Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 333	Posted - 2013.11.30 13:26:00 - [31] - Quote Solops Crendraven wrote: Riot Girl wrote: Solops Crendraven wrote: The Question is So How can we Make Eve Online Gaming community less Annoying I'm sure I could think of many ways, but first you must answer the real question; Why would we want to? Why would we not? Really Who enjoys playing with annoying toxic negative people? I do. Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
Nyla Skin Maximum fun chamber 266	Posted - 2013.11.30 13:28:00 - [32] - Quote Solops Crendraven wrote: However The Question is So How can we Make Eve Online Gaming community less Annoying Biggest issue are people like this To Be Me wrote: Ill tell you how to make it less annoying,.. BIOMASS YOuRSELF Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Please be posting with your main. who are so numerous, they make meaningful discussion about anything pretty much impossible. And were the thing I was referring to by "retardedly annoying". You can post longer posts than one line if you try. This is not IRC. In after the lock :P -á - CCP Falcon www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Academy The ROC 1720	Posted - 2013.11.30 13:30:00 - [33] - Quote Nyla Skin wrote: Solops Crendraven wrote: However The Question is So How can we Make Eve Online Gaming community less Annoying Biggest issue are people like this To Be Me wrote: Ill tell you how to make it less annoying,.. BIOMASS YOuRSELF Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Please be posting with your main. who are so numerous, they make meaningful discussion about anything pretty much impossible. And were the thing I was referring by "retardedly annoying". You can post longer posts than one line if you try. This is not IRC. Oh, I said that because I watchlisted him, and wish to punish him for his incredibly stupid statements on the forum, in game via the destruction of his assets. That's all. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Nyla Skin Maximum fun chamber 266	Posted - 2013.11.30 13:31:00 - [34] - Quote Thats fine, I blocked you too. In after the lock :P -á - CCP Falcon www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies
Solops Crendraven Solops Mining 4	Posted - 2013.11.30 13:40:00 - [35] - Quote Nyla Skin wrote: Solops Crendraven wrote: However The Question is So How can we Make Eve Online Gaming community less Annoying Biggest issue are people like this To Be Me wrote: Ill tell you how to make it less annoying,.. BIOMASS YOuRSELF Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Please be posting with your main. who are so numerous, they make meaningful discussion about anything pretty much impossible. And were the thing I was referring to by "retardedly annoying". You can post longer posts than one line if you try. This is not IRC. I do respect and admire your attention to details I will Garner support in game and out of game thru the test of time and we will be numerous as th stars in the sky those who make meaningful discussions and posts will be longer however I must keep it simple for now for the few who are mentally impaired.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Academy The ROC 1720	Posted - 2013.11.30 13:43:00 - [36] - Quote Nyla Skin wrote: Thats fine, I blocked you too. Nice. Up to 17 now. 9 from in game, 8 from the forums. Although Harry Forever probably shouldn't count as he has about ten thousand people blocked. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Na Und Galactronics 108	Posted - 2013.11.30 13:53:00 - [37] - Quote James Amril-Kesh wrote: Riot Girl wrote: That article is awful. The writer is probably a male feminist. What a bizarre attempt at an insult. Perhaps you have the good fortune of never having met one.
Solops Crendraven Solops Mining 4	Posted - 2013.11.30 13:54:00 - [38] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Nyla Skin wrote: Thats fine, I blocked you too. Nice. Up to 17 now. 9 from in game, 8 from the forums. Although Harry Forever probably shouldn't count as he has about ten thousand people blocked. Did I Miss Something? Did someone get Blocked? Was it because someone got offended and Annoyed with someone else please elaborate Enquiring' minds want to know.
Caladin Brood Dirty Rotten Scoundrel's 5	Posted - 2013.11.30 14:02:00 - [39] - Quote Sometimes, everything he posted in that topic are what make a game great and a few hours spent in it the highlight of your game week. Nothing better than a gang of poor louts grieving the rich dude about how they was poor because his mom costs so much :P Na in seriousness, the 1 problem with all them is inconvenience, if a game is convenient in the first place u shouldn't be playing it, it all about the fun
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Academy The ROC 1720	Posted - 2013.11.30 14:02:00 - [40] - Quote Solops Crendraven wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Nyla Skin wrote: Thats fine, I blocked you too. Nice. Up to 17 now. 9 from in game, 8 from the forums. Although Harry Forever probably shouldn't count as he has about ten thousand people blocked. Did I Miss Something? Did someone get Blocked? Was it because someone got offended and Annoyed with someone else please elaborate Enquiring' minds want to know. I shall endeavor to elaborate. I take it as a badge of honor, much like my (shamefully low at present) character bounty, to be blocked by people. I chalk that up as one more win, one more notch on the edge of my mousepad. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Solops Crendraven Solops Mining 4	Posted - 2013.11.30 14:18:00 - [41] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Solops Crendraven wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Nyla Skin wrote: Thats fine, I blocked you too. Nice. Up to 17 now. 9 from in game, 8 from the forums. Although Harry Forever probably shouldn't count as he has about ten thousand people blocked. Did I Miss Something? Did someone get Blocked? Was it because someone got offended and Annoyed with someone else please elaborate Enquiring' minds want to know. I shall endeavor to elaborate. I take it as a badge of honor, much like my (shamefully low at present) character bounty, to be blocked by people. I chalk that up as one more win, one more notch on the edge of my mousepad. so I would assume you enjoy this? interesting seeing from your Perspective. Would You Pride yourself than being a Griefer ?Its Important We would better understand Why People Annoy People and what motivates them to do so.
Riot Girl Krypteia Operations CODE. 2050	Posted - 2013.11.30 14:22:00 - [42] - Quote Solops Crendraven wrote: Its Important We would better understand Why People Annoy People and what motivates them to do so. I enjoy it because I actually find it exciting when people get really mad at me. I love making people angry and just keep winding them up until they write full paragraph replies about what an awful human being I am. I find it hilarious and satisfying. Oh god.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Academy The ROC 1720	Posted - 2013.11.30 14:34:00 - [43] - Quote Solops Crendraven wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Solops Crendraven wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Nyla Skin wrote: Thats fine, I blocked you too. Nice. Up to 17 now. 9 from in game, 8 from the forums. Although Harry Forever probably shouldn't count as he has about ten thousand people blocked. Did I Miss Something? Did someone get Blocked? Was it because someone got offended and Annoyed with someone else please elaborate Enquiring' minds want to know. I shall endeavor to elaborate. I take it as a badge of honor, much like my (shamefully low at present) character bounty, to be blocked by people. I chalk that up as one more win, one more notch on the edge of my mousepad. so I would assume you enjoy this? interesting seeing from your Perspective. Would You Pride yourself than being a Griefer ?Its Important We would better understand Why People Annoy People and what motivates them to do so. Yes, I enjoy it very much. Sometimes after a particularly good one I have trouble sleeping because I am laughing too hard. I do take pride in this, yes. I consider myself to be reasonably good at it. I once camped someone for 14 straight hours in World of Warcraft, across 3 in game continents, and lately I seem to have made 2 of my favorite targets outright quit EVE in the last couple of weeks. As for my motivation, I take delight in shattering the misconceptions of others about behavior in a videogame. Especially when they attempt to portray themselves as having some kind of "right" or entitlement to be "just left alone", in a massively multiplayer online game. I do not break the rules or the terms of service, I play within the game's rules, although I may toe the line now and again (and I have no less than 4 GM warnings across all of my EVE accounts to prove it). But I don't "play fair". I have no code or sense of honor other than one I choose to adhere to. I won't bow to social pressure to behave how they want me to in a literally escapist medium. I also deride the concept that one is somehow "bad" for attacking others in a game if the rules permit them to do so. I come from Ultima Online, a game that left it up to the players do decide who is right and who is wrong at the point of a sword. A game where death is real, and where the victor takes his spoils from the battered corpses of the fallen. A game with player freedom. I play EVE Online, as I choose to play it. I am freedom. I am both cause and effect, I am why people watch their backs, and why you should read contracts carefully. I make carebears cry, and miners die. I am a Griefer. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Remiel Pollard Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking 2005	Posted - 2013.11.30 14:36:00 - [44] - Quote Riot Girl wrote: Solops Crendraven wrote: Its Important We would better understand Why People Annoy People and what motivates them to do so. I enjoy it because I actually find it exciting when people get really mad at me. I love making people angry and just keep winding them up until they write full paragraph replies about what an awful human being I am. I find it hilarious and satisfying. I do it for the express purpose of annoying people enough that they get the urge to write whole whiny articles about me that then get laughed at by the entire online community. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
Solops Crendraven Solops Mining 4	Posted - 2013.11.30 14:36:00 - [45] - Quote Riot Girl wrote: Solops Crendraven wrote: Its Important We would better understand Why People Annoy People and what motivates them to do so. I enjoy it because I actually find it exciting when people get really mad at me. I love making people angry and just keep winding them up until they write full paragraph replies about what an awful human being I am. I find it hilarious and satisfying. I see people like you and me understand this However new players who dont understand this leave the game so the player base becomes stagnate CCP loses customers. of course grief and dystopia is what makes eve so unique however how do we keep the Grief and still Gain more Eve following?
Dunpeal Hunter Zervas Aeronautics The Unthinkables 26	Posted - 2013.11.30 14:36:00 - [46] - Quote I find it annoying when i try to troll someone and that person trolls me back and together we have a really stupid conversation for like 10 minutes that makes no sense whatsoever to anyone, even to me or the other troll. I dont know if this is important or not, but i have chickens.....
Remiel Pollard Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking 2005	Posted - 2013.11.30 14:38:00 - [47] - Quote Solops Crendraven wrote: We all are Gamers here right? So How can we Make Eve Online Gaming community less Annoying. Im cu-+ri-+ous my Enquiring Mind Needs To Know! The 25 Most Annoying Things About Online Gamers You're either the author of this article, which I doubt, or you're letting it tell you what's annoying, which you should be more than capable of figuring out for yourself. When you realise you're capable of figuring out for yourself what you find is annoying, you'll realise how redundant this article is, and subsequently, how whiny the person who wrote it must be. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 1596	Posted - 2013.11.30 14:42:00 - [48] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Nyla Skin wrote: Thats fine, I blocked you too. Nice. Up to 17 now. 9 from in game, 8 from the forums. Although Harry Forever probably shouldn't count as he has about ten thousand people blocked. I would never block you as you are the most entertaining hard-man - bonkers poster since the sad disappearance of the legendary Ladie Harlot. Both of you trying so desperately hard to prove how tough you are, and both greatly entertaining. Never stop posting This is not a signature.
Remiel Pollard Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking 2005	Posted - 2013.11.30 14:42:00 - [49] - Quote Solops Crendraven wrote: Riot Girl wrote: Solops Crendraven wrote: Its Important We would better understand Why People Annoy People and what motivates them to do so. I enjoy it because I actually find it exciting when people get really mad at me. I love making people angry and just keep winding them up until they write full paragraph replies about what an awful human being I am. I find it hilarious and satisfying. I see people like you and me understand this However new players who dont understand this leave the game so the player base becomes stagnate CCP loses customers. of course grief and dystopia is what makes eve so unique however how do we keep the Grief and still Gain more Eve following? This is not true. As I have stated many times before on these forums, we were all new players once. We've all been through the meatgrinder that is the hazing stage of EVE Online, and we all came out the other side stronger for it, more bound in the community, wiser to the way of EVE Online. 10 year vets aren't 10 year vets cuz they had it easy, or because they quit. They are vets because they had it hard. Making it 'nicer' or 'less annoying' for new players does not foster the calibre of player that becomes a vet and sticks around for the long term. No, the reason people quit is because they don't adapt to and learn their environment. EVE is social Darwinism at its finest - only the strongest will survive. The weak will quit, and you know what? That's fine by me. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
Crumplecorn Eve Cluster Explorations 490	Posted - 2013.11.30 14:55:00 - [50] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: I am a Griefer. I don't think this is really true. A true griefer has no motivation other than tear extraction, and not the funny "why you violence my boat" type tears. However you stated an actual motivation, which sounds more like an intense dislike of scrubs in particular. You even make sure to follow the rules. I don't think you're really a griefer. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=rnd[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation)
Seven Koskanaiken Sons Of Saints Circle-Of-Two 525	Posted - 2013.11.30 14:58:00 - [51] - Quote 13/f/ca
Remiel Pollard Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking 2007	Posted - 2013.11.30 15:13:00 - [52] - Quote Let's start from the top, shall we. Aaron Birch's '25 most annoying things about online gamers' and why it's all irrelevant, and somewhat naive. 25. Gender Swappers Welcome to the internet. If someone claims to be an astronaut or fighter pilot, or a dog, or Santa Claus, what you do is, you don't believe them. Why should it be any different if they claim they're a woman, or a man? It's not the person who's making the claim's fault if you believe them, it's your own for forgetting you're on the internet. 24. Clan players This made me laugh. Yes, let's stop people from playing together just so that you can play in peace. The example he uses is GTA Online - I play that a lot. That video is of me and my 'clan', or 'crew', Nefarious Consortium. We're all EVE players. See, we're having fun, and sometimes we get our arses handed to us. Playing with a group of like-minded people makes it a thousand times more bearable... maybe the guy who wrote this article just needs a friend. This part of his article made me laugh, though: "So, if you're a hardcore clan player in a lobby full of people just wanting to play the game, can you just leave us in peace?" No, absolutely not. You enter a public lobby, you consent to public interaction, and that includes with any 'clans' that enter the same lobby. GTA isn't like EVE, you can go to your own private lobby. 23. Achievement hoarders He contradicts himself here. "Rather than play the game to simply enjoy it and unlocked rewards naturally" he says, prior to complaining that someone's not playing the game the way he thinks they should, and then goes on to say, "when a player on your team is more concerned with earning a rare achievement in an online game, causing you to lose", and I almost spat my coffee. It's almost like he's not playing the game to simply enjoy it himself, win or lose.... 22. Bros I don't know what he's complaining about here. I think it's another "I have no friends so no one else should either" whine. He should read some Tacitus, he could learn a lot about how to avoid expressing his jealousy so openly. 21. Bored experts le sigh.... this whole article is rife with jealousy, basically. This is a classic example of "where did you get that? That's not fair, I want one too. Oh wow, that's going to take a long time, you must have no life outside this game to have accomplished that, what a loser", he announces, as he loses the game to a better prepared, more experienced player. As a matter of contention, I had a friend once who was a very avid gamer. Don't know him anymore, but he always came to every party we had, was very social, and he was also my GP at the time. He also had all the best stuff in Halo Reach. He was better than me at the game, much better, and he got that stuff in a quarter of the time that it took me. I dunno... getting the best stuff sometimes seems like it could take time, or skill. Maybe if this guy had some skill, he wouldn't be complaining about people around him who had the best stuff. 20. Spoilers This is so ******* stupid I nearly tore my eyes out. I always play the campaign mode of a game through before I go to online. but here's the bottom line - when you go into the multiplayer of a game you haven't finished yet, why should you expect people not to have finished the single player and not to talk about it? I could go on, I really could. I'm going to stop there, though, because I'm not in the mood for addressing this stupidity anymore. I think there are a few people that could probably pick up the slack here and address the next five or so. It's pretty easy, the guy who wrote this is your typical "y u no play game the way I say to?" player. If you can't see what's wrong with what he's complaining about, then you should really pay closer attention to the fact that online games are going to have other people with different trains of thought than you - you know, individual human beings, not sheep. You might find them annoying, and that's your prerogative, but if you can't find a way to deal with it rather than write a bitchy article about it, then that game, or its online segment, just probably isn't for you. Disclaimer: I almost agreed with him on 14, children, but then I saw the reason he put there. "Shock horror! Foul language! Oh me oh my, what a paw wittle conservative intelligence vacuum I am!!" Kids shouldn't be playing mature games because their parents should be more responsible about what they're doing with their time - education first, play time second. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
Solops Crendraven Solops Mining 4	Posted - 2013.11.30 15:25:00 - [53] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: Solops Crendraven wrote: Riot Girl wrote: Solops Crendraven wrote: Its Important We would better understand Why People Annoy People and what motivates them to do so. I enjoy it because I actually find it exciting when people get really mad at me. I love making people angry and just keep winding them up until they write full paragraph replies about what an awful human being I am. I find it hilarious and satisfying. I see people like you and me understand this However new players who dont understand this leave the game so the player base becomes stagnate CCP loses customers. of course grief and dystopia is what makes eve so unique however how do we keep the Grief and still Gain more Eve following? This is not true. As I have stated many times before on these forums, we were all new players once. We've all been through the meatgrinder that is the hazing stage of EVE Online, and we all came out the other side stronger for it, more bound in the community, wiser to the way of EVE Online. 10 year vets aren't 10 year vets cuz they had it easy, or because they quit. They are vets because they had it hard. Making it 'nicer' or 'less annoying' for new players does not foster the calibre of player that becomes a vet and sticks around for the long term. No, the reason people quit is because they don't adapt to and learn their environment. EVE is social Darwinism at its finest - only the strongest will survive. The weak will quit, and you know what? That's fine by me. I agree The weak will Quit beacuse of the exasperation of the actions of Griefers that cause great irritation (or even anger) to them however what happens when a mocking or a hazing goes wrong is that fine where do we draw the line? Eve Online Council chairman may resign over harassment of suicidal player
Remiel Pollard Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking 2007	Posted - 2013.11.30 15:32:00 - [54] - Quote Solops Crendraven wrote: I agree The weak will Quit beacuse of the exasperation of the actions of Griefers that cause great irritation (or even anger) to them however what happens when a mocking or a hazing goes wrong is that fine where do we draw the line? Eve Online Council chairman may resign over harassment of suicidal player That's not what I said at all. The weak will quit because they are weak. Everyone goes through the same thing. Don't know if you've noticed or not, but there are a tonne of people still playing after many years in the game that weren't weak. And you cannot use a one-off incident as an example of regular day-to-day happenings in EVE Online to make a case. That's like asking should we let people keep flying after some jackass flies a plane into a building. DISCLAIMER: not to be interpreted as me calling The Mittani a jackass or a terrorist... You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
I Love Boobies All Hail Boobies 751	Posted - 2013.11.30 16:11:00 - [55] - Quote Number 1 annoying thing about Eve players? Bad forum posts.
SurrenderMonkey Space Llama Industries 266	Posted - 2013.11.30 16:14:00 - [56] - Quote Solops Crendraven wrote: Of course This thread Is Pointless Thats the point and I could Find more than 25 reasons why eve gamers can be annoying thats what makes it more the fun and I love my carebears and maybe the writer is a Feminist. However we all can agree this thread is a fact like it or not Oh God help us 26. Arbitrary mid-sentence capitalization of random words.
CMD Ishikawa Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 41	Posted - 2013.11.30 16:43:00 - [57] - Quote The truth is that you can't make EVE community less annoying. Trolls love trolling and asoles will always be asoles.
Solops Crendraven Solops Mining 4	Posted - 2013.11.30 16:43:00 - [58] - Quote 1. Grammar **** Someone who believes it's their duty to attempt to correct any grammar and/or spelling mistakes they observe. Usually found hanging around Irc chatrooms hounding "n00bs". Stay On Topic So How can we Make Eve Online Gaming community less Annoying?
Solops Crendraven Solops Mining 4	Posted - 2013.11.30 16:47:00 - [59] - Quote CMD Ishikawa wrote: The truth is that you can't make EVE community less annoying. Trolls love trolling and asoles will always be asoles. agreed!
SurrenderMonkey Space Llama Industries 266	Posted - 2013.11.30 16:48:00 - [60] - Quote Solops Crendraven wrote: 1. Grammar ** Someone who believes it's their duty to attempt to correct any grammar and/or spelling mistakes they observe. Usually found hanging around Irc chatrooms hounding "n00bs". Stay On Topic So How can we Make Eve Online Gaming community less Annoying? Deleting whining posts like this one would be a huge start. There's very little that is annoying about the Eve community in general, but quasi-literate **-posters who have been here for about five minutes and think they have something to contribute toward the "improvement" of the game are probably at the top of the list. You're about the fifth one I've seen this morning. Just before I stumbled across this abortion of a thread, I was reading someone else's thoughts on how to improve wardecs, despite the fact that they had never so much as participated in one, and lacked even a rudimentary understanding of their mechanics. Want to make the place less annoying? Banish everyone to Newbie Q&A until they've played for a year.

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