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Othran
Route One
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Posted - 2013.11.30 14:23:00 -
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I think you might find that after Jan 1 2014 there will be little appeal in further Eastern expansion for the EU. Not just in the UK, either, Italy, France and Germany all have problems with whats happening now.
We (the UK) are the only people in Europe who are stupid/servile enough to actually implement and enforce all the crap that comes from Brussels so we only have ourselves to blame.
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Riot Girl
Krypteia Operations CODE.
2050
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Posted - 2013.11.30 14:24:00 -
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dexington wrote:Riot Girl wrote:baltec1 wrote:What good is a white house petition to get a nation 1/4 of the way around the world to sign up to an EU trade agreement? The EU is an American pet project. Are you saying america was discovered by europeans?
No, I'm saying psychopaths are using Democracy to conquer the world. Oh god. |

dexington
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
887
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Posted - 2013.11.30 14:29:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:dexington wrote:Riot Girl wrote:baltec1 wrote:What good is a white house petition to get a nation 1/4 of the way around the world to sign up to an EU trade agreement? The EU is an American pet project. Are you saying america was discovered by europeans? No, I'm saying psychopaths are using Democracy to conquer the world.
as in democracy don't exist, or we are all psychopaths? I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous. |

Dunpeal Hunter
Zervas Aeronautics The Unthinkables
25
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Posted - 2013.11.30 14:30:00 -
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dexington wrote:Riot Girl wrote:baltec1 wrote:What good is a white house petition to get a nation 1/4 of the way around the world to sign up to an EU trade agreement? The EU is an American pet project. Are you saying america was discovered by europeans?
America was "discovered" by a group of monkey's. I think we can all (except off course the religious fanatics, who ironically are mostly located in America) agree on that  I dont know if this is important or not, but i have chickens..... |

Anomaly One
82
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Posted - 2013.11.30 14:31:00 -
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Orravan wrote: The lifespan of this topic is surprisingly long. Ugh
I keep saying the same thing in my head for 99% of GD threads (and F&I)
I think it's alts, yup definitely alts. *~~*running my own mission and have some class bully run up and blow me up because they think its funny, then give the excuses that I was just firing fireworks at you*~~* |

dexington
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
887
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Posted - 2013.11.30 14:33:00 -
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Dunpeal Hunter wrote:dexington wrote:Riot Girl wrote:baltec1 wrote:What good is a white house petition to get a nation 1/4 of the way around the world to sign up to an EU trade agreement? The EU is an American pet project. Are you saying america was discovered by europeans? America was "discovered" by a group of monkey's. I think we can all (except off course the religious fanatics, who ironically are mostly located in America) agree on that 
We are discussing whether or not it was the monkeys who named the continent america. I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous. |

Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1183
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Posted - 2013.11.30 14:47:00 -
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AllUrBase wrote:Dear EVE community, Harsh times apeared to settle in Ukraine last days.The unsigned EU integration agreement by our government and president Victor Yanucovich these days in Vilnuis made thousand of ukrainians step out and join the "Eurorevolution" , demonstrators are 100% peceaful , supporting the Ukrainian euro integration. This night police security forces, well known to work with a current bandit government circled the demonstrants and got them beaten down with the reason to install a Cristmas Tree on the place they gathered. I'm asking every to sign a White House petition here to help ukrainians to overthrow the current government.
If people did this in the USA or Europe, the same thing would happen. So what exactly are we supporting besides a future war with Russia?
~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |

Radamant Nemess
Spatium Industries
25
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Posted - 2013.11.30 16:47:00 -
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Sentamon wrote: war with Russia
History has proven that this is a very bad idea...
i can fail at any speed you like |

Lipbite
Express Hauler
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Posted - 2013.11.30 16:52:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:If people did this in the USA or Europe, the same thing would happen. So what exactly are we supporting besides a future war with Russia? Petition to impose personal sanctions against allegedly corrupted president of Ukraine, his family, Ukrainian government. Some Ukrainian politics talk about treason yet there are no working legal mechanics for their talks to become actions within Ukraine itself. Hence the plea to US government by desperate Ukrainians. |

ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate WHY so Seri0Us
2692
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Posted - 2013.11.30 16:55:00 -
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Whilst I'm sympathetic to your cause, a White House petition is unlikely to succeed.
...actually, you guys have oil and the US is one of the biggest rogue states out there. Why not. Dodixie > Hek |

Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1183
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Posted - 2013.11.30 17:01:00 -
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Lipbite wrote:Sentamon wrote:If people did this in the USA or Europe, the same thing would happen. So what exactly are we supporting besides a future war with Russia? Petition to impose personal sanctions against allegedly corrupted president of Ukraine, his family, Ukrainian government. Some Ukrainian politics talk about treason yet there are no working legal mechanics for their talks to become actions within Ukraine itself. Hence the plea to US government by desperate Ukrainians.
You have a long way to go in your lesson on how the world really works. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |

Dasola
Rookie Empire Citizens Rookie Empire
225
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Posted - 2013.11.30 17:10:00 -
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Do you seriously think people in Ukraine gives damn what White house thinks? They got bigger problems to handle then what President of United States of America might be thinking about them.
Personally US would be better of if they would stop mingling with foreign countries internal affairs. Would also reduce amount of people hating US and terrorism. Would be peace act of century i think. We are Minmatar, Our ship are made of scraps, but look what our scraps can do... |

Mystri
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Posted - 2013.11.30 17:34:00 -
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Ukrainian Government: You give $20 billion a year or we go Russia.
EU Taxpayers: Haha, aye jog on.
What's that word for someone who sells themselves to whomever offers the most cash? |

Ari 2M
Fulminata XII
0
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Posted - 2013.11.30 17:38:00 -
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AllUrBase wrote:Most of mentally healthy people of Ukraine got nothing common with those Mongol-Tatar successors, Ukraine history shown our country to be a legit european country far before Russia even been established.
That's why i won't sign the petition. Just because you can't do anything but insult a whole nation. |

Othran
Route One
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Posted - 2013.11.30 18:55:00 -
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ElQuirko wrote:Seriously, even if Salmond's ludicrous plans for independence do win out in the referendum that will not necessarily even be held.
You seem to have missed a few years matey, this is 2013, not 2007 and the date is set. Its happening.
Hope you had a good snooze Rip  |

Galen Darksmith
Sky Fighters
108
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Posted - 2013.11.30 19:24:00 -
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So basically, the Ukrainian government doesn't want to submit its full API? "EVE is a dark and harsh world, you're supposed to feel a bit worried and slightly angry when you log in, you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for." -CCP Wrangler |

Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
4455
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Posted - 2013.11.30 19:32:00 -
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Galen Darksmith wrote:So basically, the Ukrainian government doesn't want to submit its full API?
it's funny because he's fat. |

LittleTerror
Illuminated Foundation Trust
114
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Posted - 2013.11.30 19:38:00 -
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humm so this thread is allowed to stay open but if i wanted to talk about socialism and stuff it would be locked (oh wait... maybe that is exactly what they are selling), is ccp biased or am I just stupid? I think not, I think your player base is probably more smarter than you imagine.
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Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
475
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Posted - 2013.11.30 19:40:00 -
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well to dip my toe in this politic garbage..... saying you are democratic/good/we and then spiting on another nation will not get you far in your we are better than them agenda.... http://i.imgur.com/1N37t.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KTjFEt6.jpg I dont always fly stabber but when i do...
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dexington
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
887
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Posted - 2013.11.30 19:43:00 -
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LittleTerror wrote: ...is ccp biased or am I just stupid?
i don't think ccp is biased... I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous. |

Othran
Route One
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Posted - 2013.11.30 19:46:00 -
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$20bill is sod all - Spain has had more than Gé¼400bill in "structural funding" since they joined the EU. "Structural funding" = cash grants for those wondering. They ought to be a damn sight more grateful IMHO.
The EU is headed by Barroso who is a Maoist (oh wait he says he isn't now) and can be basically summarised as spread the money around until we're all as poor as each other.
All very nice when you're a recipient of the cash, not so great when your country has been paying billions every year for 40+ years without ever being asked if this is OK in that time. Add in mass immigration - the city I live in grew by 34% in the last decade and NONE of that increase was due to indigenous births - and is it any wonder people get sick of it all?
So I'm sorry that Ukraine isn't able to sort things out - I would MUCH rather have had you join than the Balkan states (Romania/Bulgaria/Croatia/etc) - but that was your only chance and its gone. Once another wave of Eastern European immigration hits the rest of the EU this January then any further expansion east will be halted for a generation.
This is way way way OT, mods must all be on hols :P |

Lord Khagrim
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2013.11.30 19:49:00 -
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Just give Russia our Crimea and you can go wherever you want If you want to be cheap EU labor like Baltic States - you're welcome |

Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
4460
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Posted - 2013.11.30 19:56:00 -
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i'm pretty glad my parents moved out of Ukraine tbh 
if it's not someone with their foot on our throats or apartment buildings collapsing or someone hoarding electricity/energy or a terrible airport safety record...it's something else to be happy to be separated from. |

Lee Mcgee
New Eden Resources.
6
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Posted - 2013.11.30 20:02:00 -
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Ukraine should stay the hell out of Europe. EU and UK are getting enough poor people from eastern europe and we don't want anymore. Well done Putin. |

Othran
Route One
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Posted - 2013.11.30 20:12:00 -
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Lee Mcgee wrote:Ukraine should stay the hell out of Europe. EU and primarily the UK are getting enough poor people from eastern europe and we don't want anymore. Well done Putin.
The reason that happens is because we are one of two (IIRC) countries in the EU who have a non-contributory benefits system and you cannot discriminate based on country of birth. You are either an EU citizen or you are not. If you are then (with some delay) you get the money. Simple as that.
Amazed this is still open :) |

Captain Tardbar
Sons of Sam
751
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Posted - 2013.11.30 21:52:00 -
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Wow.. Three pages and no moderation.
Must be out for the day. I'm thinking of some good threads to post now. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. Captain Tardbar: The official grumpy cat of General Discussion. |
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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2013.11.30 21:58:00 -
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Discussion of real world politics is not permitted on the EVE Online forums.
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