NO! Bad noob.

The logic behind keeping non-FW players out of FW plexes is self evident: they don't belong there. They're not participants in FW. All they can do is screw it up for the participants.

There are plenty of places for PVP'ers who are interested in facing off against their own kind to fight. How about anywhere in a duel? Why don't more 'pvp'ers' duel? Because they're afraid of even odds - of facing someone with as much hardware or experience.

The risk aversion is not the FW players: it's the overaged gankers who should be up and out fishing the rough seas, big nets, big boats, big fights, but would rather gank newbs in the coy pond that is a FW plex. And FW players have to stay in the plex to earn LP. They're stuck there - against all comers. It's like shooting fish in a barrel.

No!

FW sites are a spectacular arena for PVP. Why on EVE should such an arena be limited to just a particular group of players?

simply marking neutrals as suspect would suffice: civilian entering military complex is suspicious at least.

In my opinion the defending npc should shoot those who aggresses on the defenders faction players, sounds just logically right. But not like deny the entrance, hell no.

sry no, i havent read the answers before me.

But i would appreciate if all non fw-players entering a fw plex would be handled as if they were of the enemy faction and they would be automatically flagged suspect so that u wont lose ss for engaging them.

This would be a good idea.

FW... is that a foreign word for snowflakes? As in, "we are special so change just for us"? You guys are starting to sound like HS carebears.

No to OP idea and the other 'fixes'... make neutrals go suspect? Really? In low sec? FFS, just have all the weapon systems on all neutral ships disabled as soon as they enter LS then!!!

Of the last 20 fights I've had in Faction War plexes roughly two involved Faction sided opponents. The rest were gankers or random pvp'ers come to exploit the ready availability of targets. And while you're trying to make sure that deep red for their -5 security is or isn't the red of a faction opposite (and not just an ally with low security standings come for a stupidly unannounced visit) they are target locking us and unleashing the first salvo. The NPCs do not attack them. Typically they're older, more experienced pvp'ers. Typically they're flying more expensive ships. Typically, in short, they are much harder than your average FW opponent. Typically, therefore, FW players are not fighting FW players in a pvp arena that is supposed to be faction sided warfare.

Random PVP'ers don't belong in FW plexes. They earn nothing from it but they do gang up on and attack actual players. For the sheer thrill of it. At the very least anything but the FW side of the plex should be attacked by NPCs on sight. More reasonably people who aren't engaged in FW shouldn't be allowed into FW plexes at all.

"Problem" of neutrals in FW plexes was discussed numerous times already. Denying access to FW plexes for them would undermine sandbox part of the game so i think that simply marking neutrals as suspect would suffice: civilian entering military complex is suspicious at least. That would remove the fear of SS loss in case FW pilot decides to attack 1st, from the side of neutral pilot nothing changes.

Soo tell me mr snowflake how you would like it if you had to wait to engage the enemy every time you engaged them in you wh's ? You engage first, you take a security knock, pretty soon you can't go into HS....not every PVP'er wants to be flashy red..

And FW players have to stay in the plex to earn LP. They're stuck there - against all comers. It's like shooting fish in a barrel.

Of the last 20 fights I've had in Faction War plexes roughly two involved Faction sided opponents. The rest were gankers or random pvp'ers come to exploit the ready availability of targets. And while you're trying to make sure that deep red for their -5 security is or isn't the red of a faction opposite (and not just an ally with low security standings come for a stupidly unannounced visit) they are target locking us and unleashing the first salvo. The NPCs do not attack them. Typically they're older, more experienced pvp'ers. Typically they're flying more expensive ships. Typically, in short, they are much harder than your average FW opponent. Typically, therefore, FW players are not fighting FW players in a pvp arena that is supposed to be faction sided warfare.

Random PVP'ers don't belong in FW plexes. They earn nothing from it but they do gang up on and attack actual players. For the sheer thrill of it. At the very least anything but the FW side of the plex should be attacked by NPCs on sight. More reasonably people who aren't engaged in FW shouldn't be allowed into FW plexes at all.

I would like to keep random PVP'ers from entering any Signatures or Anomalies once someone else has already entered them unless fleeted with the person initiating the site. I would also like for this to include but not limited to: missions, asteroid belts, wormholes and stations.

All PVE'ers are fine to enter however.

"I would like everywhere to be hisec and all of EvE to be PVE content. The safety switch should be forever Green and then removed from the game. PVP should only be in duels or when consensual. Actually, I want this to be WoW with spaceships."

Biomass yourself. Now. You've clearly chosen the wrong game.

"Problem" of neutrals in FW plexes was discussed numerous times already. Denying access to FW plexes for them would undermine sandbox part of the game so i think that simply marking neutrals as suspect would suffice: civilian entering military complex is suspicious at least. That would remove the fear of SS loss in case FW pilot decides to attack 1st, from the side of neutral pilot nothing changes.

So easy fix , propsed by many ignored completly by CCP , why ?

You can yellow box them without going suspect, so I don't think it's a big deal really, just yellow box them and wait for them to aggress first, then probably die a few seconds later if your a terribad pvper flying around in half skilled **** fit ships like me. A far
bigger problem is the fact that you're in enemy space with no access to station facilities, while they are usually operating in a home system with off grid boosts, friends to back them up and can go to a staion to ship up at any time, so they have huge advantages.

But they account for the majority of pvp in plexes now, taking them out would turn it into a boring lp grindfest, so I don't agree with the OP, I know where he's coming from, but at the end of the day we earn tons of LP to cover our losses, they only get loot to cover theirs so in the end it all balances out pretty well.

Same demand/request comes up every time a newcomer realises that being a militia conscript means wading through rats and other vermin more than it allows for shooting 'real' enemies

Pirates/Neutrals are and have always been a big part of what keeps FW alive, without them it would have degenerated into a 100% pure farming experience rather than the 85% it is.

Now, if CCP would only sit their asses down and cook up a scheme that allows pirates to participate proper in the landgrab so we could have a full on menage-a-trois, complete with tears, blood and forum bashing.

Ought to do away with most farming as every plex, regardless of location and size, would have value to more than one party.

"I would like everywhere to be hisec and all of EvE to be PVE content. The safety switch should be forever Green and then removed from the game. PVP should only be in duels or when consensual. Actually, I want this to be WoW with spaceships."

Biomass yourself. Now. You've clearly chosen the wrong game.