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Eileene
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Posted - 2006.03.01 11:47:00 -
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I need an advise about killing freighter in low security space. Two caldari sentry guns III and only one battleship available. What BS to use and what setup? Freighter is alone and is not using instas.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.01 11:51:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 01/03/2006 11:51:29
 Originally by: Eileene
I need an advise about killing freighter in low security space. Two caldari sentry guns III and only one battleship available. What BS to use and what setup? Freighter is alone and is not using instas.
Might be very hard to tank those sentries for long enough... only thing I can think of is a tanked gankship of some sort with a 90% web and cap booster. Even then you might not last long enough.
Maybe a gankageddon with 90% web, warp scrambler, heavy cap booster, LAR2, 3 energized adaptive II, 4 heatsink II, 7 megapulse? Not even sure the cap on that would last, or the tank.
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Lilan Kahn
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Posted - 2006.03.01 11:52:00 -
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what an odd thing to do as you dont get loot from frighters 
Originally by: Eris Discordia
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Lo3d3R
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Posted - 2006.03.01 11:54:00 -
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simple, the most important thing is to keep your tank up, so:
im assuming your gona armor tank
high: NOS (i would go for 2) and guns/launchers offcourse, in case the player logs you have 15 minutes to finish the job
med: fit 1 webber, 1 scrambler 20K, the rest: cap recharger II's
low: 2 large rep II's, the obvious hardners, cap relays.
armor is roughly 22K on a obelisk, dunno the others i assume the same, most important is that you can keep your reps going, and you should be allright
your post lacks details btw, about what ship your using etc.
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Eileene
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Posted - 2006.03.01 11:59:00 -
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Originally by: Lilan Kahn
what an odd thing to do as you dont get loot from frighters
It's not an odd thing. He spoils my trade run by lowering NPC prices. So as you see it's a business matter. I can't wardec him because as most freighter pilots he's in NPC corp.
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2006.03.01 12:02:00 -
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well... you could turn to professional help.
I bet there is alot of pirate corps that would help you free of charge:)
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Eileene
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Posted - 2006.03.01 12:09:00 -
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Originally by: Lo3d3R
Edited by: Lo3d3R on 01/03/2006 11:56:43
armor is roughly 22K on a obelisk, dunno the others i assume the same, most important is that you can keep your reps going, and you should be allright
It's not shields nor armour the problem. Obelisk has 120 000 structure.
I used Dominix with Ogres I, 2xLAR, 3x hardeners, 2x NOS, mix of large ion and electron blasters, scrambler and webber. I put it to 60% structure and had to warp. Drones help to tank sentry alot but I lost them when hit 80% of his structure. Freighter has 3500 cap without skills and I think he was dry long before hit structure.
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Lo3d3R
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Posted - 2006.03.01 12:17:00 -
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Originally by: Eileene
Originally by: Lo3d3R
Edited by: Lo3d3R on 01/03/2006 11:56:43
armor is roughly 22K on a obelisk, dunno the others i assume the same, most important is that you can keep your reps going, and you should be allright
It's not shields nor armour the problem. Obelisk has 120 000 structure.
I used Dominix with Ogres I, 2xLAR, 3x hardeners, 2x NOS, mix of large ion and electron blasters, scrambler and webber. I put it to 60% structure and had to warp. Drones help to tank sentry alot but I lost them when hit 80% of his structure. Freighter has 3500 cap without skills and I think he was dry long before hit structure.
120.000 .... "ohhh" ehh and there is noone around that can help you ??? if not contact me ingame, I shall shoot this big mean hauler with you.
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Eileene
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Posted - 2006.03.01 12:21:00 -
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Originally by: Lo3d3R
120.000 .... "ohhh" ehh and there is noone around that can help you ??? if not contact me ingame, I shall shoot this big mean hauler with you.
I want to do this alone. And this guy runs mostly after DT (like most trading business) when there is not too many people online.
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Kinsy
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Posted - 2006.03.01 12:57:00 -
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You could do it on your own if you had a Dreadnaught or maybe a Carrier. Otherwise...nope, it seems.
Raven might do the job, good dps with skills, 2 spare highs for NOS (try 2 Mediums so you don't suck him dry and get a sustained supply of cap), you can chuck on plenty o damage mods, and you got plenty of meds. You will need a lot of ammo though.
Dont think anything else would have the staying power tbh.
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Turas Kain
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Posted - 2006.03.01 13:15:00 -
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Not sure if you';ll be able to do it with just 1 ship either but lets us know if you do  .
Its a lot easier to use 2 ships, even if you get someone with pretty low skills have them bump the freighter like crazy when you warp out to recover - have an ss close to the gate. Its not perfect and sometimes the freighter may get away but can be done if you have an alt.
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Eileene
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Posted - 2006.03.01 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Turas Kain
Its a lot easier to use 2 ships, even if you get someone with pretty low skills have them bump the freighter like crazy when you warp out to recover - have an ss close to the gate. Its not perfect and sometimes the freighter may get away but can be done if you have an alt.
I thought about using alt in two ways:
- as a hauler ejecting cap charges
- as a cap battery with fast recharge so I can NOS him constantly
Both ways do not require alt to tank sentry. But after bringing this freighter to 60% structure I just want to kill him alone more to check if I can do it at all.
I can try to switch to medium neutron blaters. I can use tech2 with void ammo. For large blasters I have only level 3 trained. Maybe DPS loss would be small enough and I could gain low slot occupied by RCU2 now.
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jernej
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Posted - 2006.03.01 13:28:00 -
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Originally by: Eileene
Originally by: Lo3d3R
Edited by: Lo3d3R on 01/03/2006 11:56:43
armor is roughly 22K on a obelisk, dunno the others i assume the same, most important is that you can keep your reps going, and you should be allright
It's not shields nor armour the problem. Obelisk has 120 000 structure.
I used Dominix with Ogres I, 2xLAR, 3x hardeners, 2x NOS, mix of large ion and electron blasters, scrambler and webber. I put it to 60% structure and had to warp. Drones help to tank sentry alot but I lost them when hit 80% of his structure. Freighter has 3500 cap without skills and I think he was dry long before hit structure.
If the sentrys are cycling between you and the drones 1 LAR should be enough. You could try scooping the drones that are being targeted by the sentrys so that the dont die too fast... Try if u can nos the stargate.
Or u can just put a huge secure container between the warp in point and the gate full with cap boosters (or just jettison the boosters from hauler) and just take your time.
You'll be able to run the 2 LAR's for hours.
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Superbus Maximus
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Posted - 2006.03.01 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: Eileene
I need an advise about killing freighter in low security space. Two caldari sentry guns III and only one battleship available. What BS to use and what setup? Freighter is alone and is not using instas.
Faction bs will tank the sentries np, for dmg output though you want a vindicator can tank sentries for a good long time nad bring the freighter down fairly quick.
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2006.03.01 13:33:00 -
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I could take down a freighter in front of sentrys too, just need good gunnery/cap skills and a nice tank.
Not vindicator, navy mega 4tw
And Wrangler > j00 -Eldo
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Superbus Maximus
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Posted - 2006.03.01 13:40:00 -
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Dont make me blow yours up and show you up tenacha you probably got some weird ass setup on that thing though 
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Eileene
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Posted - 2006.03.01 14:03:00 -
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Faction BS is out of question. I can use Caldari or Gallente BS. Is Megathron better tanker than Dominix? I had impression it's more damage dealer than tanker so I used Domi.
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Superbus Maximus
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Posted - 2006.03.01 14:05:00 -
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well the key is taking it down fast and tanking so Domi is outa the question, unless you had a faction it would be extermly tuff to take down a freighter with sentries wacking you.
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TuRtLe HeAd
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Posted - 2006.03.01 14:11:00 -
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I seriously don't think its possible alone. The Problem is that you just couldn't tank the sentries long enough to kill it. And a sensible Freighter pilot would try and get back to the gate and leave. He could tank you longer than you could tank the guns alone.
2 people yes its easy as hell.
Your best bet is to Come accross as extremely confident when engaging it and then ransomming it for a few hundred mill.
To be honest its not a feat to be proud of anyway, its worth alot of isk, but you get no cargo and no destroyed items on the kill mail. Coupled with the fact that freighters have no slots. Or are you only doing this because all other victims escape you because Of WCS? |
Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2006.03.01 14:15:00 -
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get in a mega with tank, no mwd, and wait at a gate you think he will come to, use dual web and 1 scrambler...it should do the trick, maybe get a hauler to dump a can with cap charges at the gate. 2 large reps and 3 hardeners will be able to tank it, keep you cap up high from the begining with cap boosters and you should be able to last it out, with t2 ammo i do 1000dps I think about 700 or so with t1, that is more than enough to shred a freighter
And Wrangler > j00 -Eldo
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Elegant
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Posted - 2006.03.01 14:20:00 -
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On the otherhand I wonder how much it cost him to repair a frieghter from 60% structure... Try simply sending him an evemail saying that the painfully expensive assaults will continue if he doesn't move elsewhere. If it continues and you don't want your sec status to drop, hire professionals.
But I think the bluff should be enough if you've already gotten him down that far once.
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2006.03.01 14:22:00 -
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It can be done solo. But you'll need several nos to sustain your cap, and you'll need at 2 good webbers to make sure he doesn't get through before you get through all his HP.
AC tempest would probably be my choice. But a thron or an apoc should work well. The raven could do it, but its so slow that you might have problems getting into web range quickly. Fury torps would be nice though...
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Haram Zada
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Posted - 2006.03.01 14:26:00 -
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What if the freightor logged the second you opened fire? You sure you got enough time to solo him?
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2006.03.01 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: Haram Zada
What if the freightor logged the second you opened fire? You sure you got enough time to solo him?
15mins is long enough to kill a freighter, he should be down within 10mins
And Wrangler > j00 -Eldo
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2006.03.01 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
The raven could do it, but its so slow that you might have problems getting into web range quickly. Fury torps would be nice though...
If the guy is running pos/trade then his route is more or less set, knowing the route you can just wait at warp in as he isnt using instas. So in all probability raven may be best with t2 torps, its just that with needing dual web and a scrambler leaves 3 slots to tank and no cap injector.
I aint fitted a raven for a long time, can you fit nos with siege missiles? and can you tank a long time with just nos and no cap charges?
And Wrangler > j00 -Eldo
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Eileene
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Posted - 2006.03.01 14:52:00 -
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Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd
To be honest its not a feat to be proud of anyway, its worth alot of isk, but you get no cargo and no destroyed items on the kill mail. Coupled with the fact that freighters have no slots. Or are you only doing this because all other victims escape you because Of WCS?
Read back this thread and you will see it's a pure business. He lowers NPC prices on my trade route with this freighter. If I could make this low sec space really LOW SECURE for freighters I would have my trade route only for me.
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2006.03.01 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: Eileene
Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd
To be honest its not a feat to be proud of anyway, its worth alot of isk, but you get no cargo and no destroyed items on the kill mail. Coupled with the fact that freighters have no slots. Or are you only doing this because all other victims escape you because Of WCS?
Read back this thread and you will see it's a pure business. He lowers NPC prices on my trade route with this freighter. If I could make this low sec space really LOW SECURE for freighters I would have my trade route only for me.
If you dont think you can manage it yourself, send me a msg ingame with all the details and I can pursuade him to stop using that route.
And Wrangler > j00 -Eldo
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.03.01 15:34:00 -
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My apoc can tank sentries indefinately with 3 t2 hardners, 1 LAR and one med repper. I have 2 cap rechargers and one cap power relay and its pretty much cap neutral.
If you fit more cap mods (you have a nice mix of low and med slots in a domi) then you may be able to pull it off.
Low - 3 hardners, 2x repper 1xCPR. Mid 3x CRII, web, scram. High, best guns with available PG and CPU and full stack of drones.
The question is then whether he can make it to the gate webbed before he dies.
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2006.03.01 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: Tenacha Khan
If the guy is running pos/trade then his route is more or less set, knowing the route you can just wait at warp in as he isnt using instas. So in all probability raven may be best with t2 torps, its just that with needing dual web and a scrambler leaves 3 slots to tank and no cap injector.
I aint fitted a raven for a long time, can you fit nos with siege missiles? and can you tank a long time with just nos and no cap charges?
I missed the part where he said there were no insta's. That makes this really really easy. You won't need 2 webs if you hit him right out of warp, the 2 webs is just to help slow him down when he's up to speed. If you put a 90% web on him before he accelerates he's done for. And a raven with 2-3 nos should be able to tank sentries using 4 mid slots. Probably need an rcu2 on the lows. Haven't fitted anything like that, could be cpu issues.
Shamis
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2006.03.01 15:42:00 -
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Edited by: Tenacha Khan on 01/03/2006 15:42:48
Originally by: Deja Thoris
My apoc can tank sentries indefinately with 3 t2 hardners, 1 LAR and one med repper. I have 2 cap rechargers and one cap power relay and its pretty much cap neutral.
If you fit more cap mods (you have a nice mix of low and med slots in a domi) then you may be able to pull it off.
Low - 3 hardners, 2x repper 1xCPR. Mid 3x CRII, web, scram. High, best guns with available PG and CPU and full stack of drones.
The question is then whether he can make it to the gate webbed before he dies.
I find that hard to believe, I can just barely tank one gun in my scorp with 1 large rep II, never mind them both with adding just a medium rep
And Wrangler > j00 -Eldo
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