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MeBiatch
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Posted - 2013.12.03 23:58:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote: 50% bonus to remote repair amount
i would swap remote amount for optimal range 200% bonus would give it nice range and make heavy drones useable There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
MeBiatch
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Posted - 2013.12.04 00:22:00 -
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Naomi Anthar wrote:Basically it means rattler will get some DECENT BUFF - since i cannot see why you would take rattle over this one. Because it shield tanks ? Most of the time its good to be armor tanked at BS level.
And stop with those stupid ideas of another role bonus.
Ship already got Virus Strenght , Scan bonus (huge one) , Energry turrets optimal range, rep amount bonus
Yes that is total 4 role bonuses compared to standard 1 bonus for navy/pirate ships.
And you want what ? 5th bonus aswell ? Just ... just stop.
It's already rattler V2 ... no need to **** on poor Guristas BS anymore.
fingers crossed we will gat a range bonus/tracking bonus swap for the missile velocity bonus. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
MeBiatch
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Posted - 2013.12.04 00:23:00 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote:CCP Rise/Fozzie: I don't know about others, but I think it might be supremely useful if an explanation of what this ship was designed around were provided. You know, kind of like you did for the Astero and Stratios but not as vague and open to interpretation.
Also, some kind of bonus to a cloak would be kind of nice, even if it's not cloaked velocity or the ability to use covops cloaks. Non-covops cloaks have tons of drawbacks, which means there are tons of potential other bonuses you could give to them besides just velocity.
Still, nobody at CCP gives a bonus to anything without having a purpose in mind (even if the reason makes no sense) so I for one would be interested in an explanation of the current bonus layout.
For everyone else: Oh no, a ship that doesn't fit into modern-day fleet doctrines. How terrible. As if 95% of you would ever actually PvP with one of these anyway despite your cries of how useless they are for it.
i would dig a role bonus to reduce cloak cpu by 50%. so tech I cloak would cost 15 cpu and tech II would cost 30 cpu. repleace it with the optimal range bonus for lazors. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
MeBiatch
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Posted - 2013.12.04 00:29:00 -
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Andrea Keuvo wrote:
This ship is useless for "exploration" without a covert ops cloak. Scrap the useless bonuses and give it cov ops cloak. Even with that traveling in null with it will be very sketchy and if you jump into a bubbled gatecamp you will be in trouble. But without it the ship has no real use that i can see.
how so?
if you are in a wh then go to a pos or ss and cloak up.
if you want to bring one down to 0.0 then use a carrier.
seems this guy has not heard of the mwd cloak trick.
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MeBiatch
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Posted - 2013.12.04 00:31:00 -
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Aeronite wrote:I was expecting more SOE black ops BS style and less mix of useless bonuses. By the way RRBS fleets are dead and will never come back since logistics cruisers are so much better.
dont think you get drones that much...
if you launch drones in an annom or mission they will pull aggro. with a rr range bonus you can keep the drones alive.
or if you are doing 10/10 complex you can have two of these sentry setup to tank the armor.
just because you dont see the use does not mean there is no use. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
MeBiatch
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Posted - 2013.12.04 05:20:00 -
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Quote:NESTOR
Amarr Battleship Bonuses: 4% Armor resistances per level
Gallente Battleship Bonuses: 10% drone damage and hitpoints per level
Role bonuses: 25% bonus to drone speed and tracking 250% bonus to Remote Repair optimal range 50% increased strength for scan probes +10 virus strength for relic and data analyzers There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
MeBiatch
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Posted - 2013.12.04 19:43:00 -
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Not that I am against the idea rise. Just does not make sense.
The picture linked clearly shows a shuttle leaving a sma and there is a medical bay highlighted.
Personally this ship should be an escort carrier... I am thinking like a mini mom of old but uses drone instead of fighters There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.04 20:20:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:It's not getting a jump drive. It's not getting a covert cloak. It's not getting bubble immunity. It's not getting covert jump portal. It's not getting covert cyno. It's not getting bastion capability.
Please stop asking for these things. None of these are workable ideas. Please also stop asking for:
A logistics battleship. Logistics battleships are just a terrible idea for several reasons, mainly the fact that they're slow, would have to have short range to avoid trampling on actual specialized logistics ships, and lock too slowly to be of actual use in anything more than a very small engagement.
An exploration battleship. There's literally no reason why you should ever try exploring in a battleship, no matter what its bonuses may be. It's too slow both in and out of warp to be effective at this role at all.
I'll add that these latter two are also exactly why the original proposal completely sucks, especially considering not enough of a bonus is given to either to make it useful for these roles at all.
The ship isn't a "jack of all trades, master of none." It's a "useful for nothing, shiny new ship to spin in our hangars".
I dunno thinking about getting a pair of these to do 10/10 complexes.
Though still think the ship needs an sma and cha with a clone vat bay.
Maybe 100k m3 for the sma and 20k for the cha.
I would get some nice use out of it in Russian claimed space when they are all asleep.
Park my srat in the ship and setup a jump clone.
I glad ccp designed a ship that has no real use for blobbing. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
MeBiatch
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Posted - 2013.12.04 20:23:00 -
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Tom-A-Hawk wrote:Bad and boring design, change those scanning and data bonuses, they're useless
Agreed make the ship an escort carrier designed to compliment the srat and astrios. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
MeBiatch
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Posted - 2013.12.04 23:22:00 -
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:Ish Eistiras wrote:MeBiatch wrote:Tom-A-Hawk wrote:Bad and boring design, change those scanning and data bonuses, they're useless Agreed make the ship an escort carrier designed to compliment the srat and astrios. Currently the idea I like the most, unique flavor (potentially) in the BS range and a good "my first carrier" there are all ready mini dreads in the new mauraders, so a carrier lite would fit in. So maybe something like this? NestorAmarr BS bonus:4% bonus to armor resists per level Gallente BS bonus:+1 active drone per level Role Bonuses:50% bonus to drone optimal range, tracking speed and velocity 50% bonus to large energy turret optimal range 150% bonus to Remote Armor Repair range 50% bonus to Remote Armor Repair effectiveness Slot Layout: 6H, 6M, 7L; 4 Turrets, 0 Launchers Drone Bandwidth//Bay:200mbit/sec//500m3 Has a ship maintenance bay about the size of 2 cruisers, maybe? Nothing big, but enough to fit a couple ships. Just a quick idea.
Needs a little work but I totally like where you are going There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
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MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.05 01:24:00 -
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Phoenix Jones wrote:I don't mean to shoot an idea down, but there has to be limits. The restriction of 5 drones to all sub-capitals exist for a reason.
It was a bit much.
well the idea of an "escort carrier" to me would imply for then 5 active. though i do think 50% would be too much of a bonus.
that like having 12 regular drones.
i would just have the role bonus be to hp and tracking.
so 8 drones is only 0.5 more drone damage then a domi.
i dont by having 3 extra drones will be the doom to the server.
i mean we have tidi fights with over 4000 drones ffs. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.05 01:33:00 -
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rsantos wrote:make it a blops with rep range so it can bridge and rep those stratios and asteros around! its OP and expensive... like a pirate battleship should be!
meh if you want to get a jump ship get a blops they are much cheaper then the nestor. like half the price.
i kind of see the ship like this.
you have an Astero alt setup for scanning. he finds a wh and scouts out an empty deep null sec system or a empty wh class 2 or three
you and your friend in a nestor then go threw the wh and end up at your destination with the Astero scouting. as soon as you get to your location.
your other friends jump cloan to the ships and they activate the stratioses in the sma.
you then run the 10/10 or wh sleepers and after you are done. you rather rinse repeat.
thats what i mean by escort crusier.
edit: i heard clone vat bays dont work in wh. so they would have to follow in Astero then switch for the stratios There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
MeBiatch
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Posted - 2013.12.05 01:40:00 -
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. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
MeBiatch
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Posted - 2013.12.05 01:54:00 -
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rsantos wrote:MeBiatch wrote:rsantos wrote:make it a blops with rep range so it can bridge and rep those stratios and asteros around! its OP and expensive... like a pirate battleship should be! meh if you want to get a jump ship get a blops they are much cheaper then the nestor. like half the price. i kind of see the ship like this. you have an Astero alt setup for scanning. he finds a wh and scouts out an empty deep null sec system or a empty wh class 2 or three you and your friend in a nestor then go threw the wh and end up at your destination with the Astero scouting. as soon as you get to your location. your other friends jump cloan to the ships and they activate the stratioses in the sma. you then run the 10/10 or wh sleepers and after you are done. you rather rinse repeat. thats what i mean by escort carrier. edit: i heard clone vat bays dont work in wh. so they would have to follow in Astero then switch for the stratios you underestimate the usefulness of a bridge and jumpdrive in null sec exploration... hint... its doesn't need to jump gates! would sell like hot cakes!
i dunnu a sin has drones and jump bridge... it aint so populah There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.05 02:02:00 -
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rsantos wrote:MeBiatch wrote:rsantos wrote:MeBiatch wrote:rsantos wrote:make it a blops with rep range so it can bridge and rep those stratios and asteros around! its OP and expensive... like a pirate battleship should be! meh if you want to get a jump ship get a blops they are much cheaper then the nestor. like half the price. i kind of see the ship like this. you have an Astero alt setup for scanning. he finds a wh and scouts out an empty deep null sec system or a empty wh class 2 or three you and your friend in a nestor then go threw the wh and end up at your destination with the Astero scouting. as soon as you get to your location. your other friends jump cloan to the ships and they activate the stratioses in the sma. you then run the 10/10 or wh sleepers and after you are done. you rather rinse repeat. thats what i mean by escort carrier. edit: i heard clone vat bays dont work in wh. so they would have to follow in Astero then switch for the stratios you underestimate the usefulness of a bridge and jumpdrive in null sec exploration... hint... its doesn't need to jump gates! would sell like hot cakes! i dunnu a sin has drones and jump bridge... it aint so populah goes for what 750 - 800 mill i mean if you are a cool kid just use a titan to bridge you for exloration "and rep range"... and sins rock for plexing btw
wait are you the duel remote repping ultra niche sin guy. didnt you do a demo at fanfest or something There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.05 02:09:00 -
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if we make the nestor a escort carrier then i would not mind seing a jump engine on it. make it the same range as a blops.
that way you can jump to the system with a few of them and get to work. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.05 02:10:00 -
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rsantos wrote:
i'm not... can't even fly one... but i've seen many jumping around!
really what region?
need a good kill
pretty sure now that rubicon is deployed the blops is the least used ship in eve. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.05 02:48:00 -
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looks like in 7 years less then 500 sins have been lost. totally a popular ship. the cane navy issue which is just a pre nerfed cane has over 1100 deaths. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
MeBiatch
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Posted - 2013.12.05 02:56:00 -
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Selnix wrote:Wouldn't the ship be more unique as a true BLOPS logistics to give black ops gangs the ability engage in skirmishes instead of just small ganks? Between the price the ships are going to command no matter what role they end up filling and the higher sig, slower locking and lower general maneuverability vs standard logis they shouldn't encroach too much on their turf either. From a RP standpoint the Sisters repairing people makes more sense than attacking directly anyways.
NESTOR
Amarr Battleship Bonuses: 4% Armor resistances per level
Gallente Battleship Bonuses: 150% bonus to Remote Armor Repair System range
Role bonuses: 15% reduction in Remote Armor Repair System capacitor use 50% bonus to afterburner speed 200% bonus to cloaked velocity Cloak reactivation delay reduced to 5 seconds
Slot layout: 6H, 5M, 8L; 0 turrets, 0 launchers Fittings: 11250 PWG, 680 CPU Defense (shields / armor / hull): 8900 / 9950 / 9900 Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap/s) : 6200 / 1044 / 5.9 Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 116 / .13 / 56000000 / 13.97 Drones (bandwidth / bay): 125 / 450 Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 95km / 285 / 10 Sensor strength: 24 Magnetometric Jump drive capacitor need: 95% Maximum jump range: 3.5 ly Fuel bay capacity: 2500m3 Jump drive fuel need: Helium/Oxygen Isotopes Jump drive consumption amount: 300/300 Signature radius: 465 Cargo Capacity: 700
that looks good but i would not do the afterburner bonus and just have the optimal range bonus for rr in the role bonus that way i can keep my drone damage/hp bonus
so:
NESTOR
Amarr Battleship Bonuses: 4% Armor resistances per level
Gallente Battleship Bonuses: 10% bonus to drone damage and hp
Role bonuses: 150% bonus to Remote Armor Repair System range 25% bonus to drone speed and activation range 200% bonus to cloaked velocity Cloak reactivation delay reduced to 5 seconds
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MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.05 03:06:00 -
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Selnix wrote:MeBiatch wrote: NESTOR
Amarr Battleship Bonuses: 4% Armor resistances per level
Gallente Battleship Bonuses: 10% bonus to drone damage and hp
Role bonuses: 150% bonus to Remote Armor Repair System range 25% bonus to drone speed and activation range 200% bonus to cloaked velocity Cloak reactivation delay reduced to 5 seconds
Problem with swapping the range bonus that way is you end up severely gimped on range. The AB bonus was also to allow it to have some amount of maneuverability without a huge cap drain.
indeed i overlooked the 150 is actually 750 at lev v. but i dont see it needing that much range.
perhaps when they rebalance tech III we will have a usefull covert ops logi ship.
i see it as a mixed role. though i would just be happy with 200 or 300% extra range. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
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MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.05 14:54:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:Okay, another short update:
Adding role bonus: 100% bonus to remote armor repairer range
We agreed that this will make quality of life a lot better when attempting to use the remote repair bonus without adding too much power.
Possibly a more detailed post in a couple hours regarding the discussion on black ops/bridging/cloaking and the all-over-the-place design, but I'm super busy atm and just wanted to make sure you guys knew about this change as soon as possible.
Thanks
Its a start... though you have me intriguing what else is planned for 1.1?
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MeBiatch
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Posted - 2013.12.05 15:19:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:marVLs wrote:So in next few hours Rise wil give us some silly arguments about not leting go scaning/data bonuses... great, rebalancing ships with adding another broken, the same and useless hull. I don't really understand the argument for having getting rid of these. If they are gone, they wouldn't be replaced with something else. They are there because it keeps theme with the other two Sisters ships, and it will likely get used by at least some people for the occasional ghost site or finding sites or for future content that uses hacking.
So no med bay or sma like the hihh res photo shows?
Those imo would be better then hacking bonus.
Though if its that or nothing I guess we can keep it :/ There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
MeBiatch
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Posted - 2013.12.05 19:09:00 -
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Mr Pragmatic wrote:NextDarkKnight wrote:Any notice from Rise about the 8.0 AU Warp speed from the rings yet? 8.0 BS?! Madness.
Madness"
(Ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma...)
I, I can't get these memories out of my mind, And some kind of madness has started to evolve. (Ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma...) And I, I tried so hard to let you go, But some kind of madness is swallowing me whole, yeah (Ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma...)
I have finally seen the light, And I have finally realized What you mean.
Ooh oh oh
And now I need to know is this real love, Or is it just madness keeping us afloat? (Ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma...) And when I look back at all the crazy fights we had, Like some kind of madness was taking control, yeah (Ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma...)
And now I have finally seen the light, And I have finally realized What you need.
Mmmm...
(Ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma...)
But now I have finally seen the end (finally seen the end) And I'm not expecting you to care (expecting you to care) But I have finally seen the light (finally seen the light) I have finally realized (realized) I need to love I need to love
Come to me Just in a dream. Come on and rescue me. Yes I know, I can be wrong, Maybe I'm too headstrong. Our love is (Ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma...) Madness
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MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.05 23:21:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:No, clearly remote repair is what everyone always wanted in a battleship.
tech I logi frig? check
tech i and II logi crusier? check
pirate faction logi batteship? check
carrier? check
super carrier? check
seems logical to me. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.06 17:45:00 -
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Phoenix Jones wrote:On the RR module as the issue..
I'm not sure that CCP actually touched the Logistics Ships or the Heavy Interdictors in their whole Rebalancing Initiative. I know the Logi ships have been touched up gradually throughout the years (Oneiros isn't as terrible as it used to be), but I don't believe they touched them at all with the whole Tiertricide. As the frigates and T1 logi cruisers all got retouched, I'm not sure they (ccp) would bother redoing the repair module as a whole...
Though if they do redo it, now would be about the right time.
fyi for armor fleets oneiros is extreamly popular.
i will give you a hint its call sig radius. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
MeBiatch
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Posted - 2013.12.07 15:47:00 -
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i still support the escort carrier idea.
if you use WWII as an example. there were three kinds of carriers used. Fleet, light, and escort. for eve this could be supercarrier = fleet, regular carrier = light, and then we are left with an empty slot for the escourt.
for me the nestor should be the suport for the SOE ships and that means it could potentially fill the escort carrier idea. also the size compares too a nyx is 3.3 km long a thanny is 2.2 km long and the average bs is from 500m-1km long. Typically in wwii the escort carrier would be 1/3 the size of the fleet versions. so this also stands up to the comparison.
the role of an escort carrier is to provide air cover and logistics to an expeditionary force. So this fits perfectly with the exploration mantra of SOE.
first thing i would do is get rid of lazor bonus and hacking.
This is better suited for the ships its meant to support. We already have the RR for the logistics and drones for the air cover.
IN WWII escort carriers were primary used as waypoints for planes to land on and then go the the next destination. so that kinda fits in with the idea of covert ops bridging. so that leaves us with a ship that has great drone projection/ good RR and the ability to use jump drive and jump bridge technology. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
MeBiatch
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Posted - 2013.12.07 15:49:00 -
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Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:The Nestor is good as is. Shut it and let's get it on SiSi to get tested so it can be adjusted IF needed
just remove the lazor/hacking bonus replace with jump bridge and jump drive.
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MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.07 17:25:00 -
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Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:Really? We don't think it already has ENOUGH bonuses, it needs more? This is why CCP does n't listen to us anymore...
It has more then enough bonus they just happen to be the wrong ones. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.07 18:30:00 -
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FT Diomedes wrote:MeBiatch wrote:Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:Really? We don't think it already has ENOUGH bonuses, it needs more? This is why CCP does n't listen to us anymore... It has more then enough bonus they just happen to be the wrong ones. ExactlyGǪ As I have been saying since the stats were announced: Focus the ship on a useful role. The logistics BS is the best way to go. Focus should be on effective remote reps in a group PVP/PVE environment. Fill the gap between logistics ship and carrier. Range of 20-30km for ALL remote reps and energy transfers. Bonus to ALL remote rep and energy transfer amount. 6-7-7 layout. 5 turrets. No specific tanking bonus. Let the players choose how to tank it. No weapon bonus, except for drone damage, repair amount, speed, and optimal range. 400m3 drone bay. 125mb bandwidth. Players should have a lot of freedom in how they want to use it. If you want to leave on the hacking and scanning bonuses, fine. Do that. But make the ship able to perform the primary role well. Will some people still prefer Logistics ships? Yes, but not everyone. A 2 billion ISK ship should at least be good for something.
SOE seem to like armor over shields.
i support the idea. but not all RR i would keep to ET and Armor RR.
we can always have a shield based RR BS when ccp makes a minmatar/caldari pirate faction. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.07 18:31:00 -
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FT Diomedes wrote:If this silly abomination is going to be an exploration ship, it needs some bonus to make it somewhat survivable. A bonus to MJD or cloaked velocity makes some sense.
mjd and cloacked velocity make way more sence the hacking/probing There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
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MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.07 18:34:00 -
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Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:Yuo won't meet her alone, don't worry and not on this toon either :^ ) But if you live in 0.0 you might someday. Doubtful though, I kinda HATE BS for PvP, unless in CTAs.
bs's with mjd aint so bad for gate camping.
but who in thier right mind would use one for a roam deserves to die to a bunch of bombs. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.07 19:43:00 -
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Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:I was thinking Mordus Legion OR Thukkers, but I'm not sure with both. Thukkers make ships for the Min, and Mordus Legion I don't think we'd get new cool looking ship. They seem to use caldari ships. Anyone faction be good for Cald/Min?
i think after the failed elder fleet the bulk of thukker were absorbed to the republic.
So that would leave Mordu.
I think it would be cool if the caldari contracted the Angel cartel to combat the Guritas. So then maybe the caldari would ask Mordu to take on the new role of semi legit pirate faction. More a Privateer then a true pirate. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
MeBiatch
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Posted - 2013.12.07 19:45:00 -
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Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:Mordus faction ships
Role Bonus: Either 50% to missile velocity or 25% to Missile explosion radius
Caldari Bonus: 5% to rate of fire of missiles per level
Minmatar Bonus: 7.5% to shield boost per level
I would also like to see them be fast more around Minatar ship speeds.
i like that...
though i would like to see a mael spewing pirate faction ship...
think mael with caldari tech in it. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.07 20:02:00 -
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Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:MeBiatch You aren't allow to like anything I post, we are suppose to disagree. You are messing up the plan man haha : ^p
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MeBiatch
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Posted - 2013.12.07 20:21:00 -
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Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:Caldari/Minmatar faction ships. Mordus Legion. This will only be the layout for the battleship.
Doru
Caldari Battleship Bonuses: 5% bonus to Cruise and Torpedo Launcher rate of fire
Gallente Battleship Bonuses: 7.5% bonus to shield boost amount
Role bonuses: 50% bonus to remote shield repairer amount 100% bonus to remote shield repairer range 50% bonus to Cruise Missile and Torpedo velocity OR 25% bonus to Cruise Missile and Torpedo explosion radius 20% decrease in ship signature radius
Slot layout: 7H, 6M, 6L; 0 turrets, 6 launchers Fittings: 10250 PWG, 880 CPU Defense (shields / armor / hull): 9950 / 8050 / 9900 Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap/s) : ? / ? / ? Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 118 / ? / ? / ? Drones (bandwidth / bay): 75 / 75 Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 90km / ? / 8 Sensor strength: 26 LADAR Sensor Strength Signature radius: 420 Cargo Capacity: 700
fill in where you please, and I'm going to make a post for it now.
since its split between missile and RR. perhaps something like 100% bonus to missile damage and then only 4 turret slots so the other 3 can be used for RR.
or 3 launchers since you did 6. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
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Posted - 2013.12.07 20:24:00 -
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Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:Eh, Nestor is pretty much finished, so eh
that has yet to be seen.
i mean when was the last time rise did not do a mark 2? There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
MeBiatch
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Posted - 2013.12.07 20:26:00 -
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Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:I fixed the Gal thing, sowwy.
I was thinking 100% to damage too but tought it be too powerful. And I like the idea you have to choose either missiles or logi, kinda fun haha
you do have a point. though i was thinkin in balance with the nestor as you dont have to choose dps or RR since the bulk of damage will be coming from drones.
perhaps just dont do any extra damage bonus but do somthing like ex velocity bonus... There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
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Posted - 2013.12.07 20:29:00 -
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Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:velocity bonus to missiles or ship?
explosion velocity so its like a tracking bonus. helps apply damage but has only 6 launcher dps.
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MeBiatch
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Posted - 2013.12.07 20:47:00 -
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Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:Caldari/Minmatar faction ships. Mordus Legion. This will only be the layout for the battleship.
Doru
Caldari Battleship Bonuses: 5% bonus to Cruise and Torpedo Launcher damage
Minmatar Battleship Bonuses: 7.5% bonus to shield boost amount
Role bonuses: 50% bonus to remote shield repairer amount 100% bonus to remote shield repairer range 25% bonus to Cruise Missile and Torpedo explosion velocity 25% bonus to Cruise Missile and Torpedo explosion radius
Slot layout: 7H, 7M, 5L; 0 turrets, 6 launchers Fittings: 10250 PWG, 880 CPU Defense (shields / armor / hull): 9950 / 8050 / 9900 Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap/s) : ? / ? / ? Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 118 / ? / ? / ? Drones (bandwidth / bay): 75 / 75 Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 90km / ? / 8 Sensor strength: 26 LADAR Sensor Strength Signature radius: 336 Cargo Capacity: 700
made a few slight adjustments just built in the reduction of ship sig into the ship and replaced the rate of fire bonus with damage to bring the overall dps slightly down. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
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Posted - 2013.12.08 17:26:00 -
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Xequecal wrote:I still maintain that bubble immunity is the only way this ship has a chance. i realize there's little to no chance of that happening because CCP probably doesn't want to proliferate bubble immunity to even more ships, but at least it would give it a usable niche. .
Micro Jump Drive. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
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MeBiatch
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Posted - 2013.12.08 17:27:00 -
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Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:The BS will be 1.5 or lower too.
and a rattlesnake goes for 435 000 000 isk... There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
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Posted - 2013.12.08 18:11:00 -
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Savira Terrant wrote:MeBiatch wrote:Xequecal wrote:I still maintain that bubble immunity is the only way this ship has a chance. i realize there's little to no chance of that happening because CCP probably doesn't want to proliferate bubble immunity to even more ships, but at least it would give it a usable niche. . Micro Jump Drive. And that works to avoid the tackle that comes together with the bubble how exactly? (Still "voting" against cloak or bubble immunity... just curious.)
afaik only way to tackle a bs with mjd is a scram. so if they just have long points you should be fine. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
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Posted - 2013.12.08 18:17:00 -
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Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:And a Vindy goes for 1.1bil to 1.2bil. All depends on demand.
from what i understand there are two major factors in the price of serpantis ships.
1. there is not that many agents to farm for serp (which causes a supply issue)
2. the web bonus.
as for the nestor.
the only reason i see it being so damn expensive will be the supply issue. there are no 0.0 drops for the bpc so ratting wont help.
though i am not sure but do ghost sites drop soe bpc's? if not then maybe they should. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
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Posted - 2013.12.10 00:55:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:The blops speed bonus isn't useless at all. For one, it allows the ship to warp instantly out of cloak. It also allows you to move around somewhat (the extra speed compensates for the fact that you can't use prop mods while cloaked, except in the first few seconds). Without it blops would be extremely slow while cloaked and would be significantly easier to catch on gate (when they take them of course, as is sometimes necessary).
Combining blops speed bonus with 10 medium drone capability would make this a very fun and unique ship indeed. I think it would satisfy most of those that want a covert ops cloak, and it would also probably satisfy many those that want bubble immunity.
anything to make medium drones useful There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
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Posted - 2014.01.03 00:26:00 -
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:CCP is back from holiday now, so maybe we'll get some response soon!
umm hopefully.
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Posted - 2014.01.03 16:51:00 -
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I just poked rise on twitter hopefully he will update soonish... though there is a substantial amount of reading i would think he has to do first. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
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GRR GOONS
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:10:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Logis aren't overpowered. Besides, if you nerf them, we'll just bring more of them.
Remote repair and power projection both suffer from the same game mechanic error.
there is zero deminishing returns for blobing...
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MeBiatch
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:59:00 -
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Remote Repair scales way to well with fleets... its far too much of a force mulitlypier that has no side effects.
What I would do is Make the effectiveness on Remote Repair mods based on Fleet mechanics.
If you are in the same squad the RR is 100%
if you are in the same wing its 75%
same fleet 50%
not in fleet 25%
.......
do this and RR will be balanced. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
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GRR GOONS
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Posted - 2014.02.12 23:58:00 -
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Phaade wrote:
ECM is blatantly overpowered. Another thing CCP somehow fails to realize.
Rise has stated he hates ECM. Problem is resourses... It would take programers and QA people away from other items that currently higher on the list.
One day ECM will be fixed one day.
I mean I fixed it years ago... just waiting on the implementation There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
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Posted - 2014.02.13 14:26:00 -
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Ecm is a terrible mechanic. It should never be chance based. There is no player skill involved...
Ecm and sensor strengh should be changed to how "X" is calculated in the "applied damage" formula.
There are two main formula that decide if and quality of a hit.
The one we are most familiar with is the chance to hit. This is where tracking optimal range ect. Come into place. All the chance to hit formula does is calculate a number between 0 and 1 which is then rated against "X".
Which leads to the damage applied formula. Basically this one determines the quality of hit.
Its the one that says this shot barely scratches to a wreaking hit.
X as it stands is a randomly generated.
I want sensor strength and ecm/eccm help determine how "X" is calculated. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
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