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tinae
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Posted - 2006.03.03 10:07:00 -
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For some reason i think that people in need of a love affair, that they should just stick with someone from their own bloodline and not someone who is genetically distinct from them.
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.03.03 10:20:00 -
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Why?
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Vendrin
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Posted - 2006.03.03 10:24:00 -
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I believe it is a matter of similar viewpoints that should determine whether they should couple, not similar genetics. That statement withstanding I do find Civire females far more pleasing to the eye and in conversation then most others.
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Culmen
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Posted - 2006.03.03 10:35:00 -
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Heres my list
Achura > Detis > Sebesitor > All the rest
personally i find Achura just so intelligent and observant, a bit on the un social side, but ive never been one to harp on faux pas
Detis, for cultural/biological programming, only slightly overriden by the above
sebesitor, gotta love the free wheeling
personally i cant get over the feeling that the civre im talking to is about 20 seconds away from trying to reach over and tear out my throat with her teeth
brutors have waay too much testosterone
and the gallente i just find repugnant for love interest purposes
plus there are the diseases....
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Al Haquis
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Posted - 2006.03.03 10:37:00 -
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Nothing wrong with them. As long as you dont lie with dogs.
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With love from Al Haquis
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2006.03.03 10:46:00 -
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The girls like the freedom fighters Haquis. Get to the back of the line, Khaldorns here.
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Reil Shashanna
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Posted - 2006.03.03 10:48:00 -
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 Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
The girls like the freedom fighters Haquis. Get to the back of the line, Khaldorns here.
Disgusting brute.
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James Lyrus
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Posted - 2006.03.03 10:50:00 -
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Wrong? No, not at all. There's certain barriers of prejudice to overcome, but familiarity lowers a lot of boundaries.
Now to my mind, I tend to find that 'my type' seems to mesh fairly well with others of a similar bloodline. I suspect that this is a prejudice born out of familiarity.
There's a lot of animosity between the Empires, and quite a lot stem from cultural misunderstanding. A few more prominent 'alliances' might go a long way to healing these separations.
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.03.03 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: Culmen
personally i cant get over the feeling that the civre im talking to is about 20 seconds away from trying to reach over and tear out my throat with her teeth
That doesn't excite you?
My list is:
Mebrithiel Ju'wien and Civires
Sebiestors
Khanids
Achuras
Amarrians
Ni-Kunnis
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Fatima Nefestis
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Posted - 2006.03.03 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: Al Haquis
Nothing wrong with them. As long as you dont lie with dogs.
Oddly enough, I've heard a number of Holders express the opinion that lying with Matari isn't significantly different to this. Their words, mind you, not mine.
Personally, I'm of the opinion that one may seek pleasureable companionship wherever one thinks one may find it. Certainly I don't think bloodlines should play a part in whom one chooses to associate with, although for many they will be a strong influence on whether attraction exists between any two people - I, for example, can't say that I find the square jaws, bristly stubble, and shaven heads that seem to be prevalent among Civire males all that appealing, nor the gaunt pallor that is the mark of the Sebeistor tribe. A sharp mind, a commonality in worldview or outlook, and a quick tongue are always appealing traits, though, regardless of one's bloodline.
As for marriage between bloodlines... I simply don't forsee my eventual marriage being to anyone but an Amarr or a fellow Ni-Kunni, so this isn't something I've spent much time considering. It does seem to me that rampant intermarriage between racial bloodlines would only occur in the sort of heathen culture where proper consideration is not given to status and familian obligation, and as such, I can't say that I particularly approve of it.
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Logan Xerxes
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Posted - 2006.03.03 11:42:00 -
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Tinae is sounding quite like an amarrian there. Overspecilization breeds weekness as it is said in the Raata art of war.
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Hardin
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Posted - 2006.03.03 12:13:00 -
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I made the following post on this subject yesterday
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=301899
Unfortunately an overzealous moderator with NO IDEA about EVE history and my 'Gallente' thing locked it... *humpf*
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2006.03.03 12:31:00 -
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Originally by: Hardin
I made the following post on this subject yesterday
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=301899
Unfortunately an overzealous moderator with NO IDEA about EVE history and my 'Gallente' thing locked it... *humpf*
It is good to see that you have returned to the path of righteousness, Brother Hardin
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Tsual
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Posted - 2006.03.03 13:36:00 -
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Edited by: Tsual on 03/03/2006 13:38:48
Some people have problems...
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James Lyrus
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Posted - 2006.03.03 13:39:00 -
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Originally by: Tsual
Some people have problems...
... others have opportunities?
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Tsual
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Posted - 2006.03.03 13:43:00 -
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Well don't ask me Mr. Lyrus, or like I would write it:
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Hello I'm Tsual and I have a sexual affection with roids and mining, is something wrong with me? Please answer me quick dear GLB.
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Kyoko Sakoda
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Posted - 2006.03.03 13:51:00 -
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Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari
Why?
Quoted for truth. If love is true, why should genetics matter?
I've got both Deteis and Achur blood in me. I like being different. It's strengthened my interest in different cultures, and I have memorabilia from Saisio as well as some distinctly Intaki things scattered around my apartment.
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Yarod Cool
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Posted - 2006.03.03 14:17:00 -
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In my experience, affairs and romances with those of other bloodlines are bragging rights. Marrying outside the Caldari race will make you pretty unpopular very fast, though.
That's how it is in Caldari corporate circles, anyways.
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Alexis DeTocqueville
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Posted - 2006.03.03 14:34:00 -
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You know, I always thought a Kardashev Type I civilization like ourselves would have moved beyond such trite things as genetic purity.
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Filan
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Posted - 2006.03.03 14:59:00 -
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interbloodline and inter-racial both do not effect me. infact there is this nice Gallente woman here on the gate ive been seeing.
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Sunedyal Na'Shalorian
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Posted - 2006.03.03 15:08:00 -
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can't say i approve of interspecies co mingling very much. had a nasty experience with a gallente once and now i tend to stick with caldari, though the bloodline isn't all that important to me.
now, here's an interesting side stream to this conversation:
What defines attractiveness (aka beauty) to you?
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2006.03.03 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: Alexis DeTocqueville
You know, I always thought a Kardashev Type I civilization like ourselves would have moved beyond such trite things as genetic purity.
Mmm, is "genetic purity" really a "trite thing", though? I don't think it is, on the contrary it is even very very important.
The matter, though, is that I see no evidence of any specific race being more "impure" than the others. We all suffer diseases, we all suffer imperfections, and so on. So while there is an issue to be found in genetic purity, it is not to be found in the issue of race.
When you intend to procreate, select yourself a good mate. Never mind his race, but do mind important things such as healthy physique, intellect, hereditary diseases and so on.
And when you are just out having fun... well, have fun. (Though it might be good to let them know that that's all it is, broken hearts tend to be annoying.) But still, as a footnote to the fun part - any sane person would be attracted only to good attributes anyway, as mentioned above, so the fun should in most sane individuals not at all conflict with ideals of purity.
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Al Haquis
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Posted - 2006.03.03 15:55:00 -
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Khaldorn i have ways to impress the Bunnys , costly ways but ways none the less.
The Al will allways be first in the line even if it means war.
With love from Al Haquis.
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Morbius Drake
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Posted - 2006.03.03 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Reil Shashanna
Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
The girls like the freedom fighters Haquis. Get to the back of the line, Khaldorns here.
Disgusting brute.
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Elrianmk2
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Posted - 2006.03.03 16:54:00 -
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Interesting to see the love of Gallante bashing resurfacing. What is wrong Caldari? Not enough left in your gene pool?
Marrying outside of your racial group would result in problems undoubtably, however, if you love someone, then do what is best for the pair of you. At this point in time more and stronger ties between the races can only be a good thing.
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2006.03.03 17:08:00 -
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Edited by: Tatsue Nuko on 03/03/2006 17:10:49
Mmm, Elrian, you made me think of something: I don't think I've ever dated a Gallente. Amarr, Civire, Deteis and Sebiestor, yes, but neither Gallente nor Intaki...
Any applicants willing to help correct this? 
Oh, and yes, you assumed right, it would only be "for fun" with next to zero chances of going steady.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.03.03 17:11:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 03/03/2006 17:12:23
"personally i cant get over the feeling that the civre im talking to is about 20 seconds away from trying to reach over and tear out my throat with her teeth"
Well, given the subject at hand and the whole shebang it comes with, i'd think the fear of having your throat bitten would be the least of concerns... :s
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Jon Xylur
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Posted - 2006.03.03 17:46:00 -
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All bloodlines are close enough to eachother geneticlaly so members of 2 bloodlines will have viable children. Some cultures or tribes do however consider marriage with an ousider to be abd thing. I personally have nothing agaisn interracial marriage. Infact, my mother was Gallentean and my father was Intaki.
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Imran
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Posted - 2006.03.03 17:56:00 -
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I wub my sebesistor girlfriend :], she is quite frisky.
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Yuki Li
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Posted - 2006.03.03 18:28:00 -
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Is your problem actually with the marriage?
Or with the children that follow?
OR maybe you're having a hard time with thinking about sleeping with someone from another race or bloodline...
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Sunedyal Na'Shalorian
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Posted - 2006.03.03 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Elrianmk2
Interesting to see the love of Gallante bashing resurfacing. What is wrong Caldari? Not enough left in your gene pool?
Marrying outside of your racial group would result in problems undoubtably, however, if you love someone, then do what is best for the pair of you. At this point in time more and stronger ties between the races can only be a good thing.
Now don't get all butthurt, i was making a personal observation, not a stereotype.
This time anyways. 
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Keopa
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Posted - 2006.03.03 19:55:00 -
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Hmm..My father was Caldari and my mother Gallente. I don't think about marriage much, but I find that beautiful women come in all races. |
Shintoko Akahoshi
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Posted - 2006.03.03 20:27:00 -
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Beautiful men, too...
It kinda sounds to me, though, like Tinae lost a lover to some extra-racial competition. If you wanna marry someone, marry 'em. If genetics conspire to deny you kids, well that can happen to anyone.
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Jon Engel
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Posted - 2006.03.03 21:23:00 -
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Cultural differences get in the way of racialy diverse couples more than Genetics. If you want to marry outside your Race than be prepared to learn a bit about where they come from and what theyre all about culturally.
Pod pilots have more oppurtunity for a universalist approach to love. They arent confined to regional limits and cultural seclusion as planetsiders are.
More truthfully though, I simply don't find Gallente women all that attractive.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.03.03 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
The girls like the freedom fighters Haquis. Get to the back of the line, Khaldorns here.
They don't like terrorists though, so you're going to be 'here' for awhile.
Achura women are the best. Natural beauty and none of that makeup or *****dom found in Federation women. Amarrian women are too into God, and minmatar women... no.
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve...
This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil.
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Daryl Xero
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Posted - 2006.03.03 22:33:00 -
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In short: no.
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Exioce
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Posted - 2006.03.03 22:37:00 -
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Caldari women have strong knees, evolved over time from the requirement to climb the corporate ladder.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.03.03 22:38:00 -
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Interbloodlines are OK, interracials maybe. Imagine the thing that gets produced from a Gallentean and a Minmatar parentage (no offense to Verone and Siren Shiva), or the abomination between an Amarr and a Minmatar. What will happen to these children? Will they ever be accepted by the society or will they ever be even lower than what Minmatars are in the eyes of Amarrians?
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Jax Altarin
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Posted - 2006.03.03 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Interbloodlines are OK, interracials maybe. Imagine the thing that gets produced from a Gallentean and a Minmatar parentage (no offense to Verone and Siren Shiva), or the abomination between an Amarr and a Minmatar. What will happen to these children? Will they ever be accepted by the society or will they ever be even lower than what Minmatars are in the eyes of Amarrians?
Thank you for calling me an abomination Miss Spitfire. I could say the same about godless heatheans but common courtesy keeps me from doing so. As for my place, I am quite satisfied as a CEO of small Ammatar pod pilot corporation.
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Obwi Stefano
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Posted - 2006.03.03 23:07:00 -
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Personaly i would not mind of what race or bloodline my wife would be of. All bloodlines have attractive women, and most anthropologists and scientists agree that everyone is genetically mixed. I'm sure that racial purity doesn't exist in our universe and probably never has.
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Al Haquis
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Posted - 2006.03.03 23:54:00 -
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Edited by: Al Haquis on 03/03/2006 23:56:19
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
They don't like terrorists though, so you're going to be 'here' for awhile.
No they LOVE THEM feel the bald head............... YArrrr BUNNNYS FOREVER I TELL TOU , FOREVER...............................
With love from Al Haquis
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Luigi Thirty
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Posted - 2006.03.04 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: Exioce
Caldari women have strong knees, evolved over time from the requirement to climb the corporate ladder.
Do I have to get into what Gallente women have "evolved"?
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Amadea
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Posted - 2006.03.04 00:58:00 -
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Let your hedonism run wild.
Kill the child.
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Kaleigh Doyle
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Posted - 2006.03.04 05:39:00 -
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*blinks*
Quote:
For some reason i think that people in need of a love affair, that they should just stick with someone from their own bloodline and not someone who is genetically distinct from them.
I disagree.
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Arron S
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Posted - 2006.03.04 10:00:00 -
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Meh, I dont care about Bloodline's when it somes to the subject of love:)
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Atandros
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Posted - 2006.03.04 10:25:00 -
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Originally by: Tatsue Nuko
Edited by: Tatsue Nuko on 03/03/2006 17:10:49
Mmm, Elrian, you made me think of something: I don't think I've ever dated a Gallente. Amarr, Civire, Deteis and Sebiestor, yes, but neither Gallente nor Intaki...
Any applicants willing to help correct this?
Any time, sugah.
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Filan
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Posted - 2006.03.04 13:56:00 -
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i am one that simply doesnt care about what the galaxy thinks about interracial marriage, atleast for me and mine we intend to stay here on the gate and possibly raise a family here. such things are acceptable here and we have many interracial families within the many gates.
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Exioce
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Posted - 2006.03.04 18:15:00 -
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the blood of interracial babies magically cures cancer.
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
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Posted - 2006.03.04 21:40:00 -
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This thread seems to be seriously confuse marriage and, well, certain dockside pastimes. As much I'd like to believe the gentlemen and ladies here are innocent enough to not know the difference, I don't think knowing some of you I can. :)
In theory, it is simple. Marriages are affairs of family and clan, and family and clan and bloodline matter there. What we do on our freetime is a private matter, and personal tastes can rule more freely, as long as no one gets hurt.
In practice... I think many tragedies have started from simple private fun growing to something more and becoming impossibilities.
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Sicex
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Posted - 2006.03.04 21:42:00 -
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Intermarriage? Like... my guns and your pod?
... I'm all for it.
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Kaeleron
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Posted - 2006.03.04 22:13:00 -
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What do you know of love and marriage. You are but a vixen of bloodlust and depredation.
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Halunoto Vankaalen
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Posted - 2006.03.04 22:18:00 -
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Edited by: Halunoto Vankaalen on 04/03/2006 22:18:22
I prefer women of Deteis heritage to be honest. 
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Ryoko Yoshida
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Posted - 2006.03.04 22:25:00 -
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As long as both of the individuals involved in the marriage are doing so under the watchful eye of God, and have both repented the sins of their forebears through servitude to God's chosen until such a time as they are redeemed in God's eyes, any pairing is acceptable.
Anything else is an affront to the order of things, for if beasts and pets cannot marry, then why too should heretics and sinners?
In closing, it is not the blood that determines the validity of the coupling, but the presence of mortal sin in the soul of either party.
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2006.03.04 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: Atandros
Any time, sugah.
Yay! I've got an interracial date!
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Jonny Damordred
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Posted - 2006.03.05 02:48:00 -
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Originally by: Tatsue Nuko
Originally by: Atandros
Any time, sugah.
Yay! I've got an interracial date!
* Jonny Damordred goes into the corner and cries.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.03.05 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Jax Altarin
Thank you for calling me an abomination Miss Spitfire. I could say the same about godless heatheans but common courtesy keeps me from doing so. As for my place, I am quite satisfied as a CEO of small Ammatar pod pilot corporation.
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Verone
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Posted - 2006.03.05 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Imagine the thing that gets produced from a Gallentean and a Minmatar parentage (no offense to Verone and Siren Shiva)
I'm glad you added that... 
As for my stance... well. Just look at my future wife and I think you'll figure it out.
Caring for someone's wellbeing knows no boundaries of race, bloodline or heritage.
It's not all that uncommon for an inter-racial relationship to occur in today's society, moreso in the pod-pilot community, especially given the way the four races of pilot cross freely through eachother's space and homeworlds.
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.03.05 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
As for my stance... well. Just look at my future wife and I think you'll figure it out.
When ARE you two getting married?
I'm not usually one for weddings, but I've been dreaming for months about what the bar will be like...
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.03.05 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari
Originally by: Verone
As for my stance... well. Just look at my future wife and I think you'll figure it out.
When ARE you two getting married?
I'm not usually one for weddings, but I've been dreaming for months about what the bar will be like...
Full of Verone and Siren Shiva's mini-mes.
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2006.03.05 21:58:00 -
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Awh, Jonny, I'll have more than plenty of time for you. Ever ready to be swept off my feet by you, and you should know it.
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Verone
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Posted - 2006.03.05 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari
Originally by: Verone
As for my stance... well. Just look at my future wife and I think you'll figure it out.
When ARE you two getting married?
I'm not usually one for weddings, but I've been dreaming for months about what the bar will be like...
Full of Verone and Siren Shiva's mini-mes.
Verone Grins
Ransoming your wallets for small change as they attack and tie up the next patron...
And to answer your question Nikolai, when the time comes, which will be soon, all the regular patrons of Bar Veto will be informed and invited.
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Siren Shiva
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Posted - 2006.03.05 23:52:00 -
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Edited by: Siren Shiva on 05/03/2006 23:51:55
Originally by: Verone
And to answer your question Nikolai, when the time comes, which will be soon, all the regular patrons of Bar Veto will be informed and invited.
Soon, really? Last I knew you abandoned me. Maybe my sister was right...
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Siren Shiva > I love you too <3
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Verone
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Posted - 2006.03.05 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: Siren Shiva
Edited by: Siren Shiva on 05/03/2006 23:51:55
Originally by: Verone
And to answer your question Nikolai, when the time comes, which will be soon, all the regular patrons of Bar Veto will be informed and invited.
Soon, really? Last I knew you abandoned me. Maybe my sister was right...
I think you know where I stand Shiva, I've made that apparent in the last day or so...
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Kaeleron
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Posted - 2006.03.06 00:25:00 -
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Edited by: Kaeleron on 06/03/2006 00:25:00
Don't forget to Invite me +1.
I'll have the Steak.
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Chong Li
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Posted - 2006.03.06 02:30:00 -
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Women love Khanid, because we are good looking.
The rest of you guys are just plain SOL.
As for marriage, it is an outdated relic of our pre-spacefaring lives...it has no place in our world now. Our primary obligations are to our children, no matter how, when or with whom they are conceived.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.03.06 04:06:00 -
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"Awh, Jonny, I'll have more than plenty of time for you. Ever ready to be swept off my feet by you, and you should know it. "
*clears throat* To be honest, i kind of presumed Jonny was crying over Atandros getting a date. I mean, them both being Gallente and all... o.o;
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2006.03.06 15:47:00 -
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...
Ehm...
You know, j0...
You have a point.
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Seto Mazzarotto
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Posted - 2006.03.06 21:59:00 -
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Hmph. Who has time for love when we've got the next evolution of man on the horizon? Some of us can push our lesser urges aside and accept that we transcend humanity when we were first fitted with the implants that allow us to achieve our true destiny in the pod.
A heart with the power of a burning sun, harnessed to drive a body that's a hundred thousand tons of steel, thunder and Hell itself. What is the weakness that is mortal romance next to that feeling of absolute power?
There's just no comparison, not for me.
so lonely
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Sunedyal Na'Shalorian
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Posted - 2006.03.06 22:24:00 -
[69]
hmm, so has anyone sucessfully carried out an inter-species marrage so far?
"I am the ghost who is never remembered, I have no name. I come in a whirlwind of flashing lights and blaring sirens. Pray you never have to call on me, for I come to do battle with death." |
Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.03.06 22:52:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Sunedyal Na'Shalorian
hmm, so has anyone sucessfully carried out an inter-species marrage so far?
What, like marrying a dog?
Other races aren't different SPECIES you nitwit.
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[04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.03.06 23:32:00 -
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Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 06/03/2006 23:32:25
Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari
Originally by: Sunedyal Na'Shalorian
hmm, so has anyone sucessfully carried out an inter-species marrage so far?
What, like marrying a dog?
Other races aren't different SPECIES you nitwit.
Indeed, we are all from same species but different genus, Homo Caldaricous, Homo Gallenterous, Homo Amarrous and Homo Minmatarous.
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Jonny Damordred
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Posted - 2006.03.07 03:29:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine
*clears throat* To be honest, i kind of presumed Jonny was crying over Atandros getting a date. I mean, them both being Gallente and all... o.o;
Still upset I never looked your way?
Cheers,
Jonny d.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.03.07 06:11:00 -
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"Still upset I never looked your way?"
Now now, in order to be upset in the first place i'd actually have to be missing out on something because of it... o.O;
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Mebrithiel Ju'wien
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Posted - 2006.03.07 07:01:00 -
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Meb switches on comms and laughs hysterically down the comms
Nik... ...you ***** me up! He he!
Oh and I'm a baby of an inter-racial parentage, but I'll let you all guess about that!
...oh gods I gotta stop watching this comedy channel...
Meb carries on giggling as she closes comms
misquoting moderators -eris
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
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Posted - 2006.03.07 12:41:00 -
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Kaeleron:
Quote:
What do you know of love and marriage. You are but a vixen of bloodlust and depredation.
Is he talking to me or someone else?
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Kaeleron
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Posted - 2006.03.07 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon
Kaeleron:
Quote:
What do you know of love and marriage. You are but a vixen of bloodlust and depredation.
Is he talking to me or someone else?
Of course not you Elsebeth, I was talking to the vile Sicex.
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Louis DelaBlanche
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Posted - 2006.03.07 16:09:00 -
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Last time i checked (which i never have) the different bloodlines are not so genetically distinct for it to be unhealthy for "cross procreation" if u wanna make it sound cold & technical, "love" if u dont. Its not as though Gallante to Amarr are humans to primates for example...not genetically at least (I joke, I joke)
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Toranya Faidutti
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Posted - 2006.03.07 22:38:00 -
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Quoting Ms. Spitfire: "Indeed, we are all from same species but different genus, Homo Caldaricous, Homo Gallenterous, Homo Amarrous and Homo Minmatarous."
Jenny, I think you'd better consult your biology textbooks.
The genus is Homo, which we all share. Were your assessment to be correct, Caldaricous etc. would be the species, not the genus. However - if the four divisions you quoted were actually different species, then it would be impossible for the coupling of two different members of genus Homo to produce fertile offspring.
As is indicated by the number of multi-racial orphans littered about the known universe, this is not the case. Curious how so many of these mixed-breeds are part Amarrian, given their supposed rejection of pleasures of the flesh. But I digress.
Per the evidence, all the bloodlines are the same species (and genus) as evidence by their ability to crossbreed viable, fertile offspring.
Anecdotally, I married a fellow Intaki, but his being Intaki had little to do with the decision. There are good people in all the bloodlines and all the factions, despite my objections to how their governments and societies may operate. Deciding who to marry (or to dally with) based on bloodline is archaic and though it is the "safe and traditional" course, merely promotes bigotry and divisiveness. If more people intermarried and learned how to appreciate the good facets in others' cultures then perhaps we wouldn't be as quick to go to war.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.03.07 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: Toranya Faidutti
Quoting Ms. Spitfire: "Indeed, we are all from same species but different genus, Homo Caldaricous, Homo Gallenterous, Homo Amarrous and Homo Minmatarous."
Jenny, I think you'd better consult your biology textbooks.
The genus is Homo, which we all share. Were your assessment to be correct, Caldaricous etc. would be the species, not the genus. However - if the four divisions you quoted were actually different species, then it would be impossible for the coupling of two different members of genus Homo to produce fertile offspring.
As is indicated by the number of multi-racial orphans littered about the known universe, this is not the case. Curious how so many of these mixed-breeds are part Amarrian, given their supposed rejection of pleasures of the flesh. But I digress.
Per the evidence, all the bloodlines are the same species (and genus) as evidence by their ability to crossbreed viable, fertile offspring.
Anecdotally, I married a fellow Intaki, but his being Intaki had little to do with the decision. There are good people in all the bloodlines and all the factions, despite my objections to how their governments and societies may operate. Deciding who to marry (or to dally with) based on bloodline is archaic and though it is the "safe and traditional" course, merely promotes bigotry and divisiveness. If more people intermarried and learned how to appreciate the good facets in others' cultures then perhaps we wouldn't be as quick to go to war.
Pfft... I cant remember my darn biology. I prefer guns than textbooks.
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Vera Nosfyu
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Posted - 2006.03.08 01:29:00 -
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Actually, the species is both names, i.e. "Homo sapiens" Homo is the genus, sapien is the specific epithet.
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Tony Fats
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Posted - 2006.03.09 04:10:00 -
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Ask any animal breeder, mixed breeds tend to be smarter and stronger on average.
Evolution ftw.
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Al Haquis
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Posted - 2006.03.09 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon
Kaeleron:
Quote:
What do you know of love and marriage. You are but a vixen of bloodlust and depredation.
Is he talking to me or someone else?
NO ONE TALKS THAT WAY TO THE MOTHER OF MY CHILDREN. NO ONE PERIOD.
With love Al Haquis
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2006.03.09 16:53:00 -
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Tsk tsk Kaeleron, do not commit the mistake of thinking that just because someone is a killer busying herself with punishing and eradicating weakness, that she somehow should then be uncapable of love.
Might just be that instead of going a faery routine of loving everyone and everyone is equal or even that everyone is divine, she finds love in those possessing strength, intellect, and otherwise are what brings the species forward instead of being a liability to it.
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Sunedyal Na'Shalorian
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Posted - 2006.03.10 00:04:00 -
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Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari
Originally by: Sunedyal Na'Shalorian
hmm, so has anyone sucessfully carried out an inter-species marrage so far?
What, like marrying a dog?
Other races aren't different SPECIES you nitwit.
Be gentle man of the flaming hair, i had just got done flying for 22 hours straight and was a bit burned out.
((double 12's back to back can do that to you ))
but to answer the question i had intended to ask, has anyone successfully pulled off an inter genus (( )) marriage?
if so, i haven't heard of it.
"I am the ghost who is never remembered, I have no name. I come in a whirlwind of flashing lights and blaring sirens. Pray you never have to call on me, for I come to do battle with death." |
Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.03.10 01:30:00 -
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Originally by: Sunedyal Na'Shalorian
((double 12's back to back can do that to you ))
((Ouch))
Originally by: Sunedyal Na'Shalorian
but to answer the question i had intended to ask, has anyone successfully pulled off an inter genus (()) marriage?
Okay. Let's make it very simple.
Genus is a group of species.
Species is a group that can successfully interbreed to create fertile offspring. All humans are of the same species.
Subspecies are groups, within a species, that show a specific set of traits that not all of the species has, but can still interbreed.
Bloodlines essentially are subspecies. For example, Civire humans have the Big ******* Chin gene at a rate of about 98%, whereas it occurs in roughly 12% of the general population. While this trait is common among this one bloodline, it doesn't set them apart from the human species.
Wow...when I got that girl to "tutor" me in biology as an excuse to date her, I never had any idea I'd USE any of that crap she was trying to teach me.
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[04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw
[07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
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Morgana Janan
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Posted - 2006.03.10 01:34:00 -
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Edited by: Morgana Janan on 10/03/2006 01:35:56
I don't see where the problem is. Everyone here is Homo sapiens sapiens. Genetically, we're almost identical. What, that offend your little pride? Tough luck. Not different sub-species, not different species. All just humans. Takes a little more than a few thousand years to change that.
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.03.10 01:41:00 -
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Originally by: Morgana Janan
I don't see where the problem is. Everyone here is Homo sapiens sapiens. Genetically, we're almost identical. What, that offend your little pride? Tough luck. Not different sub-species, not different species. All just humans. Takes a little more than a few thousand years to change that.
Actually, subspecies, while not being scientifically measurable the ways species are (can or cannot reproduce), are agreed to be within the same species, so different bloodlines of people CAN in fact be different subspecies of the species Homo sapiens sapiens.
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[04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw
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Sunedyal Na'Shalorian
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Posted - 2006.03.10 01:42:00 -
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Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari
Originally by: Sunedyal Na'Shalorian
((double 12's back to back can do that to you ))
((Ouch))
Originally by: Sunedyal Na'Shalorian
but to answer the question i had intended to ask, has anyone successfully pulled off an inter genus (()) marriage?
Okay. Let's make it very simple.
Genus is a group of species.
Species is a group that can successfully interbreed to create fertile offspring. All humans are of the same species.
Subspecies are groups, within a species, that show a specific set of traits that not all of the species has, but can still interbreed.
Bloodlines essentially are subspecies. For example, Civire humans have the Big ******* Chin gene at a rate of about 98%, whereas it occurs in roughly 12% of the general population. While this trait is common among this one bloodline, it doesn't set them apart from the human species.
Wow...when I got that girl to "tutor" me in biology as an excuse to date her, I never had any idea I'd USE any of that crap she was trying to teach me.
Hahaha can't argue with that at all.
((i'm all better now ))
"I am the ghost who is never remembered, I have no name. I come in a whirlwind of flashing lights and blaring sirens. Pray you never have to call on me, for I come to do battle with death." |
Sunedyal Na'Shalorian
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Posted - 2006.03.10 01:45:00 -
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I know little about biology, my main fields of expertise are theoretcial physics and interstellar cartography. but that aside, whether we are genetically viable to breed with other bloodlines, which we are, is not the argument at hand.
the argument at hand is whether it is morally or socially "right". personally i don't see a problem with it. simply because it didn't work for me the one time i tried it doesn't mean it won't work for someone else.
"I am the ghost who is never remembered, I have no name. I come in a whirlwind of flashing lights and blaring sirens. Pray you never have to call on me, for I come to do battle with death." |
Morgana Janan
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Posted - 2006.03.10 02:38:00 -
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Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari
Actually, subspecies, while not being scientifically measurable the ways species are (can or cannot reproduce), are agreed to be within the same species, so different bloodlines of people CAN in fact be different subspecies of the species Homo sapiens sapiens.
That is true, but in this case I do not think the different races of humanity are in fact different subspecies. Too little genetic differences or mutations to differentiate between them.
(this debate is one science had in Victorian times and the early 20th century by Eugenicists. They argued that humanity was made up of between 6 and 36 different subspecies. All, of course, organized along racial lines. Which is total bull. Let me put it this way: genetically, we're identical. I'm of western European ancestery (i.e. very, very white) and genetically I've got more in common with an Australian aborigony or a Navajo Indian or a Zulu or a Japanese person than a chimpanzee does with another chimpanzee living on the opposite side of the same valley. These arn't seperate subspecies. All the same species. Minmitar, besides some minor skeletal differences and different disease immunities, are more or less identical to Amarr, Caldari, Gallente, and so forth. Twenty thousand years won't result in new subspecies forming, despite the hard times after the gate collapse. The only different subspecies in EVE are the Jove, and they're of unnatural origins.
This entire argument is like arguing that a black man is a different subspecies than a white man. Which he's not. I'm not sure how to put this ICly, but this is my OOC explination for folks butchering the science with "inter-genus relations" and such.)
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Sunedyal Na'Shalorian
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Posted - 2006.03.11 04:07:00 -
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Quote:
the argument at hand is whether it is morally or socially "right". personally i don't see a problem with it. simply because it didn't work for me the one time i tried it doesn't mean it won't work for someone else.
Refer to above statement.
"I am the ghost who is never remembered, I have no name. I come in a whirlwind of flashing lights and blaring sirens. Pray you never have to call on me, for I come to do battle with death." |
Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.03.11 06:13:00 -
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Originally by: Morgana Janan
(this debate is one science had in Victorian times and the early 20th century by Eugenicists. They argued that humanity was made up of between 6 and 36 different subspecies. All, of course, organized along racial lines. Which is total bull. Let me put it this way: genetically, we're identical. I'm of western European ancestery (i.e. very, very white) and genetically I've got more in common with an Australian aborigony or a Navajo Indian or a Zulu or a Japanese person than a chimpanzee does with another chimpanzee living on the opposite side of the same valley. These arn't seperate subspecies. All the same species. Minmitar, besides some minor skeletal differences and different disease immunities, are more or less identical to Amarr, Caldari, Gallente, and so forth. Twenty thousand years won't result in new subspecies forming, despite the hard times after the gate collapse. The only different subspecies in EVE are the Jove, and they're of unnatural origins.
This entire argument is like arguing that a black man is a different subspecies than a white man. Which he's not. I'm not sure how to put this ICly, but this is my OOC explination for folks butchering the science with "inter-genus relations" and such.)
((It all depends on what perspective you look at it from. By some standards, no, these bloodlines wouldn't qualify as different subspecies. On the other hand, you could take snakes for example, something I took some interest in at once time...within snakes, populations that live in different regions and have different skin patterns are considered entirely different subspecies, such as Florida Kingsnakes and Speckled Kingsnakes (I had a hybrid of those two, quite a beautiful animal.)))
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Rymef Montague
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Posted - 2006.03.11 21:49:00 -
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Ha, you lot are worried of marrying someone? Why I ask you so at the next war you look upon each others faces and attempt to rip the others throat out?
I believe I do remember a certain saying from my CEO, "If you want peace prepare for war." I believe that as time moves on war will once again begin to blossom. War is such a beatiful flower.... erases alot of the bad and good.
-closes comm link-
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Halunoto Vankaalen
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Posted - 2006.03.12 07:40:00 -
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[[ This about intermarriage from the "New Horizons" chronicle]]
Originally by:
Although the bloodlines were proud of their heritage they didn’t feel it was an important aspect of their life. Inter-marriages are not common, but this has more to do with physical differences than anything else.
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2006.03.17 10:53:00 -
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As an observer of human nature there is much that can be learnt from other races of man and that inter-racial relationships expand the horizons of people.
I myself am an out spoken opponet of the Federation (( A blood enemy in fact)) but yet there are a good number of Gallente women I find intoxicating, Sicex,Shintoko and the Constantine sisters.
Minmatar women are also quite magestic,Takitoo,and a few other of the lovely women you have put there two cents in here.
Amarrian women are like good wine,harder to find but when they are found they usually are the most awe-inspiring sight in the universe but that is my humble opinion.
If I had to pick three fine examples of Caldari womanhood,Tatsue, Jenny Spitfire and Kyoko sakoda are the first three that come to mind,might explain why they all have this tendency of making even this old dog blush.
As men despite our different views we really should be more appreciative towards our women,I know whenever I didn't listen to one I usually made a poor choice.
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