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Slaphead
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Posted - 2006.03.04 05:28:00 -
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 Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
Edited by: Famine Aligher''ri on 03/03/2006 15:03:18
Originally by: Slaphead
Famine,
I stand by my comment that no, ANY BS cannot take out ANY HAC, unless it's very specifically fitted.
I just want to clarify
Slaphead > HAC's can fit heavy nos
So if you say stuff like this then you really shouldn't have any play in the convo or anything pvp related. On a serious note, pilots make the ship. So yeah HAC can defeat a battleship however, Battleships do have the upper hand and should have NO problem defeating any hac. Even with common pvp setups.
In addition I just went back to the chatlog from the corp chat and your 'quotation' above doesn't appear in it anywhere. Might I enquire as to why you are falsifying chatlogs and posting them as authentic?
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deathfighter
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Posted - 2006.03.04 10:39:00 -
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Edited by: deathfighter on 04/03/2006 10:39:37
in my opinion in small gangs hac are just better and thsese are the reasons why
Hac advantages:
1) beter signature resolution : 5 sec(asuming no sensor boosters) that a bs need to lock after a hac has started firing ~ 1500 dp.
2)beter guns signatuer resolution : 100% hit ration vs targtes biger than 125 sig radius
3)much better tracking resulting in larger hit ratio that cab be maximised by hac pilot's knowladge.
4)3 free hardeners on armor and shileds. self explanatory
5)most hac's have 4 combat oriented bonuses. even though most of the times there are 2 dmg and 2 optimistaion bonuses they all go toward better/consistent damage = more damage.
6)much more versatile. : same setup can be easily used against a variety of ships.
7)1/4 siganture radius of standart bs. that roughly means very reduced damage from large wepons (in form of hit ratio) and misiles (in form of reduced hits)
8)agility : this is a huge advantage imo
Hac isatvantages:
1)Less hp : roughly the better hac has a little less than 1/2 hp of the t1 battleship not that much huh?
2)worst cap recharge rate/ cap pool. for standart hac/bs hac recharge is 3.79 compared to 4.59 for bs. u still have to account for the higher cap usage in bs mods.
3)smaller than bs sensor strength : esasier to jamm.
4)less overall damage in most cases : maybe a demios can outdamage a scorp but still a good asumption
5)less overall slots by a factor of 4 in most cases. 1-2 high slots and almoust always less mids + lows. : this means tighter setups.
6)smaller drone bay + cargo hold. : the first afect greatly damage (excpetions ishtar ofc)
7)nosferatus are not siganture radius dependedn nor velocity dependend so larger ones are better by a huge factor. (main disatvantage)
8)expensive and not insurable.
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Soros
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Posted - 2006.03.04 11:46:00 -
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Everyone seems to be missing the point of HACs here.
They aren't meant to be solo pwn mobile's.
1 bs vs 1 hac try:
1bs vs 4 hac
Which makes a group of HACs. With stupid damage
and resitances and + ther sexual.
makes hac's decent ships.
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Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2006.03.04 11:46:00 -
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Edited by: Goberth Ludwig on 04/03/2006 11:46:12
Originally by: Evil Thug
Vagabond, with 1 tracking disruptor, orbitting target on 15km = win.
yeah try that on a raven
u'd think speed will curb the damage enough but its crazy how much a simple npcin raven with torpedoes + 1 heavy NOS obliterates a Vagabond (mine at least)
to answer the orginal thread: HACs cant beat a pvp bs, unless the battleship is fitted for sniping.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.03.04 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Soros
Everyone seems to be missing the point of HACs here.
They aren't meant to be solo pwn mobile's.
1 bs vs 1 hac try:
1bs vs 4 hac
Which makes a group of HACs. With stupid damage
and resitances and + ther sexual.
makes hac's decent ships.
no offence, but 4 frigs can kill 1 bs if the pilots are smart.
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