Nah. You have to use Catalysts insteadGǪ poor you.

The real tears will be from the miners when they find out that gankers actually do not give a crap about insurance.

Crap. my bucket is full..

/gets new tear bucket

Can't have enough ganker tears!

Hilmar said he wanted to make CONCORD smarter ... I suppose those smarts was invalidating insurance claims. :)

This won't put an end to ganking. It won't put an end to ganking for profit. Nor should it. Ganking is a valuable part of this game. But gankers will have to use a couple braincells in their target selection. They might even have to create a spreadsheet. ;)

(The only real solution there is to give the barges/exhumers more CPU/PG so that they truly have the option to fit a tanky setup, rather then the choice right now of "one piece of tin foil" or "two pieces of tin foil" on the Mackinaw. You can fit a better tank on a T1 industrial then you can get onto the more expensive T2 exhumers.)

This will help a bit but I doubt it will even cause a 10 percent drop in the ganks.

Why? Because in the old days the ganking was done in teams for direct and risk free epic profit. However, Today it is far less direct but gain as far as market prices.

The big nullsec alliances are greatly benefiting from higher mineral prices that their bots produce. And yes I accuse many of knowingly using bots. Or turning a blind eye because they are "blue"

However the ganking is mostly scaring the active players away from the belts. The bots don't give a rats butt because they can easily replace lost ships and they don't have to worry about playtime. Therefore the next time some alliance alt tells you they are just trying to "clean up the bots" please keep that in mind.

So we need alot more to end this crap. Namely giving mining craft slow to no regen buffers that can outlast an alpha strike to give current concord time to respond.

I propose that all mining craft be given a massive boost to structure hit points.

Anyone notice how the carebears that are completely unable to create tears of their own eagerly clutch at anything somebody that doesn't agree with them says and claim they are tears?

Just so you understand, you do know this wont save miners? Nor will it save idiots that cram several hundred million into a T1 hauler, and it wont save 5b isk Tengus either. So before you go around cheering and calling opinions "tears" you should really think about those three facts.

Wow. All I ever see in these threads are "pvpers" whining about carebears, over and over again. Have a problem with corps escaping wardecs? Try deccing a pvp corp for once instead of a corp full of n00b miners. Have problem with getting insurance taken away for being concorded? Suicide gank anyways. It's not like it got any harder to do. If anything, it will be even easier due to the carebears feeling "safer" now.

Seriously listen to yourselves. A group that is always first to spout "adapt or die" should take their own advice for once.

I think most of us define a 'carebear' as someone who engages in activity within EVE that has little or no risk attached to it. By that definition you'd have to say suicide ganking is probably the ultimate carebear activity. Removal of insurance helps, but suicide ganking is still pretty cheap.

Miners take a huge risk every time they undock their Hulks. Hisec is crawling with carebear suicide gankers.

But I'd be happy to see CONCORD removed. The idea that CONCORD can magically appear anywhere in empire and instantly catch and kill the 'baddies' is a bit far-fetched.

But it is also far-fetched that any 'baddy' can suicide gank an innocent ship quite cheaply and then magically get re-born, without suspension or gaol time, to go ahead and kill the next innocent ship.

Empire can be just as safe if we fix the above stupid game mechanics. Very few players are going to REGULARLY gank innocents if it means their character will be suspended (in some way) for a period of time - and then perhaps be 'shadowed' by the faction police when they're released on parole. :)

apparently CCP disagrees now

Plus, you guys should be happy as hell, youre getting CCP to break the game FOR you like Goons have been trying to do like forever

"Grief play and misery make you happy."

lol find any definition of this in EVE

It basically doesnt exist

Unless you can flip in a starter system oooo then watch out. They put it in the EULA (or somesuch) an everything lol

Then they are no longer PvPers but EVE players... Get your fact straight.

PvPers are arcade players... they play to destroy, and often get destroyed, they buy GTCs and sells them to have their "five seconds of glory" in game.

Kinda looks like you kids have failed at Ice interdiction....tons of macs in the belt in Ard...

Tanking does work, as does being aware, as does manual piloting. Proven every day that someone survives a gank*.

The normal progression should always be, high sec, low sec, null sec.

Hate to agree with a Goon but there IS NO progression in this game, and nor should there be IF the game is the sandbox ppl pretend it is.