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Posted - 2011.11.05 22:54:00 -
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This is a step in the right direction, AND it does not mean the end of suicide ganking.
If you take out a ship filled with 1 bil worth of faction fits, you should have the risk of losing it in a suicide gank.
If you want to use a ship to suicide gank someone in, you have the consequence of completely losing your ship, and getting no isk back at all. It just doesn't make sense otherwise... |
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Posted - 2011.11.05 23:01:00 -
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Bischopt wrote:It's not going to stop suicide ganking. t1 fit battlecruiser is still only about 30m which really isnt a lot of money. Destroyers and cruisers are even less.
my opinion anyway.
Some people do this in a t1 BS though, and can gain the majority of their isk back from that BS through insurance payout. That isn't right. If you find someone floating around in space with a ton of expensive stuff in their cargo hold and want to suicide gank them, fine, but you really shouldn't get the majority of the isk loss from your lost ship back also... It's rather one-sided in favor of the suicide gankers in that case. |
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Posted - 2011.11.05 23:55:00 -
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Desert Ice78 wrote:Tippia wrote:Desert Ice78 wrote:troll. So we can safely say that you agree, seeing as how you can't muster even the slightest shred of an argument. Thank you for your support. still trolling.
you're not the first to come to this conclusion. |
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Posted - 2011.11.06 01:38:00 -
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Mag's wrote:I hope this is true. It's something I actually wanted for some time ago, mostly because of the shock when suiciding doesn't actually stop. Oh there will be tears. 
I think most people realize that suicide ganking won't stop because of this, but the world WILL make a little more sense after this change. |
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Posted - 2011.11.06 02:31:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Takashi X2 wrote:Outta curiosity if the enemey brings 50 BS's to gank a Freighter full of really expensive cargo flying through high sec gate to gate instead of autopiloting how is that anywhere near fair to the frieghter pilot? You cant fit it better and gate to gate is the quickest way to do it. You cant fly with support against that many enemies and theres no real way to know if they are coming for you some times even if you have scouts 3 systems out. If you can't spot a 50 BS gank, you need to fire your scouts. It's fair to the freighter pilot because it's so easy to spot and evade.
Right, because it's unheard of for a BS fleet aligning on a gate while a small frig sits on a gate looking for big prey, and then the BS fleet warps in and suicide ganks the freighter.
Or a fleet using log off mechanics for the same thing.
No, they should definitely lose their BS's either way, it's not fair. |
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Posted - 2011.11.06 02:46:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Selinate wrote:Right, because it's unheard of for a BS fleet aligning on a gate while a small frig sits on a gate looking for big prey GǪin which case it can be spotted.
Yes, because a scout is going to blink at 50 people sitting in a high sec in BS's on D-scan.
Tippia wrote:Selinate wrote:And you're any different how? For one, I don't troll. People prefer to think so when I push them into a corner and they can't get out, but that doesn't actually make it a troll. I repeat questions when the respondent fails to answer them or tries to evade
This is laughable. You are a troll who trolls people that don't agree with you by bombarding them with questions that have obvious answers. |
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Posted - 2011.11.06 02:48:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Takashi X2 wrote:Why did you skip the quote about the log on trap and stations? Because I missed in the mass of quotes. Log-on trap is beaten by warping in spurts and changing direction in the middle of nowhere. The trap hinges on the enemy scout being able to see where you're warping so people can log in and get ready on the other side. If you don't go to the gate you warp out towards, the trap fails.
Trolling again. |
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Posted - 2011.11.06 03:03:00 -
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MeestaPenni wrote:Tippia wrote:No, I am simply trying to get them to volunteer the underlying assumptions and intentions behind the claims they make, and offer some kind of reasoning behind their assertions and wishes.
Obtuse.....that's the word I'm thinking of. Today's "troll keyword": simply.
I will refer to this individual from now on when discussing all cases of T i T. |
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Posted - 2011.11.06 03:39:00 -
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Tippia wrote:MeestaPenni wrote:Seriously? You need me to go Google up a definition of 'obtuse' for you? No, but you can stop illustrating it by pretending to not understand what the GÇ£whyGÇ¥ in question was in relation to.
And you can stop pretending that he didn't answer your "why?" in his response. |
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Posted - 2011.11.06 04:14:00 -
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Aubepine Finfleur wrote:This and Dec Shielding. EvE does not condone griefplay anymore... what's happening ? it's truly the end of the world.
How does eve not condone grief play any more? Go scam someone with the market mechanics. Or better yet, go flip some poor miner's can, let him shoot you, then warp in with a bigger ship.
Or even better yet, go suicide gank a hauler with 3 bil worth of faction stuff on his indy, since the profit will just be slightly smaller, but negligibly smaller. |
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Posted - 2011.11.06 04:20:00 -
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Tippia wrote:MeestaPenni wrote:It's obvious you will cheerfully ignore that which is certainty. No. It is just that I cheerfully don't assume that something is a certainty. Quote:You can't even wrap your head around the comical illogic of insurance payouts for what the mechanics of the game deem to be illegal acts. Of course I can. It's just that I can also see the logic of having mechanics in place that makes no real-world sense if they benefit gameplay. CONCORD is another such example: it is utterly illogical, just like insurance, but it serves a purpose in the game and thus has its place. Quote:"How so?" you say.....and normal posters slowly shake their heads and silently mouth..."what the fu.....?" Yes, GÇ£how so?GÇ¥, I say, and thus probe for knowledge, in whomever made the claim, about what the purpose of insurance is in EVE. If all they can think of as an answer is some real-life comparison, they are overlooking what the insurance is actually doing, and thus their assumed lack of logic is in fact a lack of perspective. They are arguing game mechanics without considering the game mechanic.
Still trolling. |
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