I've rarely had to leave Huola (I live here so get my pew whilst dplexing), Kourmonen or Roushzar. This area has been a nice hot spot the past few months.

You know Tempest Legion already got bored of IWHIP right? They went over to Aridia lols.

Seems like the pendulum is swinging back again...

The farm cycle, do you see it? There is no war, no conflict .. only the almighty LP farm.

Addendum: My apologies for underestimating the strength of the farm, two weeks ago I (guess)estimated that the zone would flip around new years with most systems being around 50% contested. Missing by an entire week is unforgivable, but data has been assimilated so it will not happen again.

Even more addendum: Revise the bloody thing already CCP, you were not shy when it came to executing the mass-flip infini-farm but swapping it out for a delayed mass-flip infini-farm did not actually do anything.
Timer auto-runs, neutral participation (as in actual mechanics supported participation) etc.. The holidays are for sissies, get to work you slackers!

The farm cycle, do you see it? There is no war, no conflict .. only the almighty LP farm.

Addendum: My apologies for underestimating the strength of the farm, two weeks ago I (guess)estimated that the zone would flip around new years with most systems being around 50% contested. Missing by an entire week is unforgivable, but data has been assimilated so it will not happen again.

Even more addendum: Revise the bloody thing already CCP, you were not shy when it came to executing the mass-flip infini-farm but swapping it out for a delayed mass-flip infini-farm did not actually do anything.
Timer auto-runs, neutral participation (as in actual mechanics supported participation) etc.. The holidays are for sissies, get to work you slackers!

The cycle is pretty annoying but we live with it. You will get your standard WINMATAR post about how they "started the push" and "did all the hard work" when in reality no one has seen or heard from WINMATAR or many other Minmatar until the Russians came to farm the LP.

The only Minmatar of note since the great Amarr flip of Autumn 13 are TRIAD in Eszure and Iron Oxide. Those guys put up a fight every time, long may it continue.

I'm just waiting for the band wagon to roll into town.

And so the minmatar/amarr warzone is witnessing over 14 systems flip over night. Is this a new record?

http://i.imgur.com/AvsAUyY.png

Gratz to Winmatar. , Hash, LNA & all the other militia forces who contributed to this major system flip night.

Actually I like Turnur. That place is awesome.

And so the minmatar/amarr warzone is witnessing over 14 systems flip over night. Is this a new record?

http://i.imgur.com/AvsAUyY.png

Gratz to Winmatar. , Hash, LNA & all the other militia forces who contributed to this major system flip night.

As I understand it it's on par with one we have done. This is all from memory though, so pinch of salt if neccasary. I'm also pretty sure gal/cal warzone has had higher. Well done though, if you used sub capitals then whoever did that much EHP grind requires a pat on the back because as a way to spend boxing day it's pretty damn funny.

Obligatory DID'NT WANT THOSE SYSTEMS ANYWAY!

Actually I like Turnur. That place is awesome.

Haha called that one, should have put money on that. You have been holed up in Bosboger for the last 4 months rotting. As I said the band wagon roles into town and FAILMATAR claim to be winning the war on behalf of the Minmatar.

yes we have been hold up in bos for 4 months. Not that we killed over 100bil in October and November and not to mention over 30 capital kills. Hmm that doesnt seem like rotting my friend tbh it seems more like we are improving every month.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=20460411

And so the minmatar/amarr warzone is witnessing over 14 systems flip over night. Is this a new record?

http://i.imgur.com/AvsAUyY.png

Gratz to Winmatar. , Hash, LNA & all the other militia forces who contributed to this major system flip night.

13 SB kills in a row. i love tier 4, can't wait for 5.

I've noticed previously empty areas are now full of terrible (~60%) corps searching for bombers. I lost a bomber to one such player, handed in my other 19 missions, went for lunch, played some dota, got another 20 missions and he was still camping the same system mission gates without any sign of leaving, dedication to frigate kills right there!

Considering bombers are cheaper than the payout from one mission and take up no volume at all in a JF I don't mind feeding a few away, I'm just amazed that so many players previously unwilling to pvp are coming out of the woodwork to kill frigs.

At least smartbomb the pickup route and you might get some pods of value rather than chasing cloakies for hours on end. Most players just WTZ inline the whole way around in shuttles, chances are at least a few of them have implants.

I like FW as it is now but didn't originally.

Currently since we are at T4 I'm making money. Which I then spend when we are at T1 on home system defence (scary times but pretty epic pvp).

The people who have a problem with the FW system are the ones making it a problem by caring about FW sov as if its some metric of success. If you want take systems go take some POCOs or POS down that may actually mean something, don't make chasing stabbed frigates your problem.

When I first joined the Minmatar I joined what felt like a real campaign that truly felt like it meant something.
These days the pew is great but the whole farmville flip-flopping of the warzone makes me sad.
I guess I just wish it all meant something.

Second, chasing off stabbed frigs isn't a problem, it's a solution.

Nah what we have now is russians controlling the warzone and swapping factions to allow prices to raise back up.

Same difference :D

You are only bashed on more than others because of the 'we saved minmatar' attitude. It's your own fault, I thought you guys had turned a corner with this post then suddenly the CAOD post appeared. You'll notice I never bash on LNA, IO or TRIAD publically simply because the trash talk is usually kept to a complete minimum on forums. In space though the **** talk flies fast and free because it's just banter, rp banter, lolz and we all know it. In space i actually enjoy Bio being around, good lolz are had and we all have a good time. On forums it's like you're on a mission to make yourselves look terrible.

Thus, BIO are terrible.

AAAAaaaaanyway I'll pop by now and then when I need some linked, implant heavy bling fighting but for now I'll be out of the low sec scene. It's been fun chaps gfgf.

stuff and things

Speaking of **** talk, can someone explain why CptnAmazin still exists. :\

Speaking of **** talk, can someone explain why CptnAmazin still exists. :\

TRIAD left Essin as of last weekend, the farmville concept having finally leached the last vestige of fun from keeping the constellation from the Amarr.

Our foes can either now prove TRIAD have kept Eszur from them, by now taking it for the first time ever; or leave it be.

Thanks to those corporations who helped in the good fight. TRIAD will be seeking entertainment elsewhere GǪ

*Note to CCP GǪ. no need to bring in that sixth gate now.

Mad props to TRIAD for holding Eszur for so long. This system still remains the ONLY faction warfare system that has never been captured. That is something to be proud of.

Mad props to TRIAD for holding Eszur for so long. This system still remains the ONLY faction warfare system that has never been captured. That is something to be proud of.

TRIAD left Essin as of last weekend, the farmville concept having finally leached the last vestige of fun from keeping the constellation from the Amarr.

Our foes can either now prove TRIAD have kept Eszur from them, by now taking it for the first time ever; or leave it be.

Thanks to those corporations who helped in the good fight. TRIAD will be seeking entertainment elsewhere GǪ

*Note to CCP GǪ. no need to bring in that sixth gate now.

with real amarr militia corps moving in next door like amarrian vengeance TRIAD was ordered to bail before the fight even started, many years of free minmatar militia isk and countless months of tier 4/5 we were unable to get our people prepared for the fight to come

Essin never fell to the farmers but it will fall to pvpers

TRIAD will be seeking entertainment elsewhere where our loki linked hookbils can have easy kills

some super dumb stuff and things

this is what i read

Lol you are totally delusional. If troll post then fair enough, but if you actually believe this then you need to get your head checked.

This come at odd timing. Fresh numbers of PvPers in the Amarr half have managed to blitz past the Min-favoring farmer swing and push the tiers a skew. One would guess that TRIAD would relish the new targets rather than rdecid it is not worth it.

Overall this is a sad turn of events, but similar to the one time Sahtogas was in non-Amarr hands. The ARTER/A-VNG/7th Fleet people were burned out by the change from fight to farm of FW and took a few months off (for varied reasons all around). There are to few PvPers left in FW to loose many more from either side.

Hopefully we will see the pilots from TRIAD bolster up with some RnR and be back fighting again. Until then, it seems it is up to the stalwart fighters in BioHazard to continue to represent the Minmatar Militia.

Mad props to TRIAD for holding Eszur for so long. This system still remains the ONLY faction warfare system that has never been captured. That is something to be proud of.

That happen to have anything to do with A-VNG moving in next door? I'd gladly pay for a copy of the alliance mail ordering the evac.

halarious - for a group that fly stabbed geddons..


We will always be watching you. When you decide to fly anything of worth we will hotdrop a massive poo of ships ontop of you

this is what i read

bring it. you might need a hic next time to catch my armageddon navy.

It was only a geddon you are too scared to get a geddon navy. Unless you can fit it into a novice you will try your best not to fly it.

Try again

you are litterly to stupid to insult

you are litterly to stupid to insult

You are literally illiterate...

halarious - for a group that fly stabbed navy geddons 8 jumps to siege a bunker for half an hour..


We will always be watching you, but nothing else. When you decide to fly anything of worth we will begin a massive CTA gathering forces for hours, then not catch you because you were stabbed. Then we will cry about our titan bridge failing to catch your stabbed navy geddon because WE ARE NOT LOSERS I SWEAR.

We will always be watching you, but nothing else. When you decide to fly anything of worth we will begin a massive CTA gathering forces for hours, then not catch you because you were stabbed. Then we will cry about our titan bridge failing to catch your stabbed navy geddon because WE ARE NOT LOSERS I SWEAR.

So this is the true might of amarrican forum warfare... A few butthurt trolls. See you in the killing fields *******.

I invite you and anyone else to just check the killboards.

I've checked the killboards and mines bigger than yours Soooooo i win eve yes?

WIth TMFED + SWKS in Siseide and A-VNG moving into Frerstorn..

lets face it you were finally at serious risk of loosing Eszur - and all you guys really did was camp eszur or send stab frigs to siseide..

and this is all TRIAD was able to do..



and if you look at the amount of kills that TMFED -or- SWKS get per months

its the same as your whole TRIAD alliance... enough said, now gtfo!! --->

nomads please or we will be forced to camp saht undock

[instert another empty threat here]

bring it.

we did and you stayed docked.

Kinda like you ran from us when we showed up amirite?~

we did and you stayed docked.

when have we ever fought?

It was only a geddon you are too scared to get a geddon navy. Unless you can fit it into a novice you will try your best not to fly it.

Try again

There's obviously too many Mantises for one thread. You guys should pick a system and have at it. Winner gets to keep his Mantis.

no mads please

seriously but....no mads please

You ran from an NPC corp and failed to stop team ammurica. Your opinion of the matter is invalid.

i really dont know who you are sorry

A whole week to take an undefended flip system?!?!? Amarr must be so proud

while you bitched out from eszur many minmatar corporations fought for eszur. even some gallente fought for eszur. if triad was their you might have stood a chance instead of running to out of FW lowsec

You still don't get it....

Serious Update:

So far 15 corporations have declared war on WINMATAR. Pretty much everyone we thought were our friends have turned their backs on us. I will briefly mention the effort that WMTR has put into the war zone, recently and since we decided '**** the amarr'. We have been taking fleets to almost every hub bash to attempt system saves over the last 2 weeks... some successful and some not so much... lol. We made the initial push to T4 while the militia valiantly maintained it for almost 6 weeks during x-mas/January. Just a couple of things we did... yeah a lot of it was for us... but the militia helped us tremendously and reaped the benefits. When I say militia I mean even some of the corps who have just decced us. I fear the ring leaders of this group of 15 are the same who never left their home systems, farmed with their alts, and coerced others to enter into a conflict with WINMATAR.

I love how you omit the sections about taking friendly pos's you moron.

That's just like, your opinion man.

We made the initial push to T4 while the militia valiantly maintained it for almost 6 weeks during x-mas/January

Stop this smokescreen, Biohazard.

You were wardecced because you crushed several POS from your allies.

If you really want to stop this war, maybe think about giving back all the POS you stole from YOUR militia and reimburse the damage.

Then everybody can maybe go back happily at shooting Amarr...

Ismariel

Stop this smokescreen, Biohazard.

You were wardecced because you crushed several POS from your allies.

If you really want to stop this war, maybe think about giving back all the POS you stole from YOUR militia and reimburse the damage.

Then everybody can maybe go back happily at shooting Amarr...

Ismariel

whinematar

Ladies and gentlemen, I offer my services as a super serious 3rd party diplomat. As you can see from my avatar over to the left I am minmatar, I look super serious and in my previous dealings with everyone here I have shown a willingness to work out differences fairly with absolute respect.

I vow to help all parties work this out and help end this silly in-fighting.

As you can see my credentials leaves me somewhat sought after in this field so unfortunately to weed out time wasters I'll have to charge for my time. I shall only ask for the small sum of 10billion isk to resolve a problem as large as this one but you will see that save you far more than the pityful charge I ask for in payment.

Evemail me now and I'll throw in classes on how to be super serious to your diplomat teams so they too can be better space diplomats.

Yours sincerely,

Christine Peeveepeeski: Super serious space diplomat

Lets look at the pos's that we took....


Defiant legacy. - Was on a cad moon in our home system undefended (0 guns or hardeners)

Meltdown was on a moon that was mining for one individual rather than for the corp. Also meldown will be lucky to field 3 guys so yeah a moon that pays for 1 characters account hmmm.

Ladies and gentlemen, I offer my services as a super serious 3rd party diplomat. As you can see from my avatar over to the left I am minmatar, I look super serious and in my previous dealings with everyone here I have shown a willingness to work out differences fairly with absolute respect.

Erm how does that justify taking someone else's moon exactly?

If the POS had guns would it be: "Well the POS was armed but it wasn't set up to shoot blues, so we figured we could take it"

Why does the use of the moon have anything to do with it? It's not up to you how they use it. (or it won't be shortly)

Erm how does that justify taking someone else's moon exactly?

If the POS had guns would it be: "Well the POS was armed but it wasn't set up to shoot blues, so we figured we could take it"

Why does the use of the moon have anything to do with it? It's not up to you how they use it. (or it won't be shortly)

some stuff and things

Well well, this is WINMATAR.
"You will never find a place such a hive of scum and villanity" (quoted from Star Wars).
They claim to be the only holder of minmatar loyality and they killed 4 friendly pos, they called Marmite Collective to help them in hisec and they have a hot batphone with Suddenly Speceships and Shadow Cartel.

Who is loyal to whom?

check who is maximus decimal here: http://forum.coalitionofantipirates.com/index.php?page=Expelled2
and check their leadership curriculum, its a bounch of scummers and bully kids.

A Minmatar Loyalis

Get your facts straight. We didn't call marmite although all iv heard is that your side is shitting yourself from them. Should have started the war dec eh? Marmite are a high sec war dec alliance they joined for free and we thought hey meltdown are being idiots and sitting in high sec trying to kill us so lol lets do it. All i have heard so far are the scared thoughts of the smaller parties who seem to be regretting entering into this. At the en of the day it will be WINMATAR. V LNA/IRON OXIDE.

WL/meltdown and the rest of the inactive corps will struggle to field anything above a cruiser so let the games begin i say.

Geee where did I see this story before?

1-Lowsec FW corp gets somewhat large and has a Titan giving it the false impression of being superior.

2-Lowsec FW corp leadership siphons isk from moon goo while passing of some lame (ship replacment program) to members to keep them interested in CTA's (that explains all the meta 0 launchers on Biohazards talwars)

3-Lowsec FW corp leadership thinks because it has titan it is entitled to more than smaller corps (might is right)

4-Lowsec FW corp starts wheeling and dealing with large pirate corporations (see suddenly spaceships, shadow cartel etc.) and starts blueing anyone that might be a threat to there infrastructure

5-Lowsec FW corp starts hotdropping with said blue pirates and gets a sense of (I am the king of the world!!)

6-Everyone in militia starts hating said lowsec fw corp because they start to view them as ego-sadistic

7-Lowsec FW corp finds itself alienated and decides ef it isk isk isk and starts making alts for the opposing militia to fund their capitals

8-???????

9-Lowsec FW corp titan gets hotdropped by PL and or is derped in one fashion or another OR Lowsec FW corp decides they are in the big league and head off to nullsec

I mean feel free to stop me if this starts to sound familiar.

Nice try Christine, but we all know that you are just an Amarrian drone and that you just want back the love of our guns... but no. we currently prefer to shoot at our selves, so go back home to Amarr, we do not want to play with you (at least for the moment) ;-)

We didn't call marmite although all iv heard is that your side is shitting yourself from them.

Nice try Christine, but we all know that you are just an Amarrian drone and that you just want back the love of our guns... but no. we currently prefer to shoot at our selves, so go back home to Amarr, we do not want to play with you (at least for the moment) ;-)

We killed the towers of corporations that do not contribute to the warzone.

And you are viewing the militia as an alliance. I would never subject my corp to being in an alliance with you.

Max, I genuinely think you should consider a career in politics as a spin-doctor as your speech was brilliant in avoiding the matter at hand while painting yourselves as whiter than white.

You might have got away with it if it wasn't for those meddling corp mates telling the truth .



When exactly did you become judge, jury and executioner? Egotistical much?



You talk about working together then make a statement like this. Make your mind up. It is interesting though how many banded together so quickly when given cause to.

U WOT MATE! AL SMACK YOU IN THE GABBER, SWEAR ON ME MUM

Who do you think you are with that trash talk, The Scope?

Politics

You know whats funniest? A month ago you people said Scope pvp would crumble because of my pride.

Hue.

I'll try to recruit your better members btw.

Oh wait you don't have any.

Welp.

I'll try to recruit your better members btw.

Oh wait you don't have any.

Welp.

lol your **** scopie gangs do nothing but run away.

do nothing except kill biohazard like eating burritos

At the en of the day it will be SS/SCWINMATAR. V LNA/IRON OXIDE.

Thank you for the kind words Max - it was great fun fighting the Amarrian incursions, we will now be looking at other ways to fight them

All the best

Update:
Civil war is warming up nicely, 2 days in and over 4bil killed by defenders WMTR. Aggressors trailing behind but still have a respectable 2bil destroyed.

Amazing how things change eh DeT? Can't block me on here mate....

write me back

according to these wardecs its way more than 2bil in losses bro.

Your isk efficiency appears to have nosedived from a pos-stealing-tastic 97.23% down to 14.49%.
http://biohazardcorp.com/kb/

You've got some red on you.

http://winmatar.eve-kill.net/

Just sayin'

That makes much more sense. So what's going on with Biohazard then? Are they your mining/Iindustrial corp or something?

Your isk efficiency appears to have nosedived from a pos-stealing-tastic 97.23% down to 14.49%.
http://biohazardcorp.com/kb/

You've got some red on you.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=corp_detail&crp_id=321224


WOW the fail is strong in this one

If you say so. (Link leads to their own killboard)

You must be mad getting into a war that isnt going as planned. Getting chased out of bos in talwars was the highlight:)

http://winmatar.eve-kill.net/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=23726

Winmatar:
Kills. 2.7b Losses. 1.2b

+ neut carrier... 1.3 b
+ your allies significant losses omitted from summary (check war reports from within game)

Looking pretty good so far.

edit: Direct link to campaign does not work... anyone interested can find the Civil War campaign winmatar has published in their killboard.

You forgot to mention that our campaign killboard for the civil war also does not include kills from the other defenders. In-game war reports duplicate kills when multiple parties in this war are on the killmail, so that's not going to produce an accurate total either.

+ neut carrier... 1.3 b

Remember, Evekill will only pull a kill if your corporation gets final blow... so all the FiledDiplomacy/marmite/HASH/FailedSupremacy kills do not show on our killboards... read your manuals ffs, And stop posting killboards here... again... read your manuals

you are losing this war... who cares by how much lol

who cares by how much lol

You seem to care, since you have an apparent need to post false isk values here. And since you feel the need to give false info, one can only wonder what do you really feel about the outcome of the war (which by the just started and you talk like it is about to end)

But yeah. David Devant up there is right and I shall stop posting here. Let's go back to discussing kiting vs brawl tactics. I think the war will sort itself out in the game.

See you in the battlefields o7

I'd also add, if you are going to pad your stats with neutral kills, shouldn't you also be counting our neutral kills? By that logic Biohazard & allies should be getting credit for all the neutral (in this war) kills that Marmite gets. Are you also going to try to claim credit for our Tornados that Shadow Cartel killed last night as well?

I'd like an explaination of how a "random neutral" carrier jumps to a cyno your fleet fired up. I for one have always found it impossible to see let alone jump to a cyno that I'm not in fleet with.

Was a drive by carrier. Im super serial

This carrier pilot somehow ninja'd into a random fleet (yours) on the off chance your would light a cyno and he then proceeded to drop into a battle on the off chance he wouldn't be called primary by one side or the other while grabbing a few kills.

Not to mention that it was undocked before and they specifically wanted us to jump through so they could warp it in with full cap rather than jump it, but yeah neutral.

Somehow Bio didn't spot the neutral carrier on grid and tag the KM (although considering their reputation this isn't necessarily surprising)

It was very kind of them to batphone SC just in order to protect the neutral triage thanny (lol) from being 3rd partied.

Yeah i don't know how that neutral carrier got there we thought it was yours

We are quite happy due to the mails from many of the enemy corps telling us they want out the war. Seems to be going good on our end. How about you?

I have no clue wtf you're trying to say here.

Max promised to FW me the mails and after 20 minutes of waiting... surprise. My evemail did not go all blinky on me. I then again asked to pastebin them in your public channel. Got nothing.

I lie through my teeth in a vain attempt at saving face

FYP

EDIT

Team Amarrica officially offers it's support in the war against Biobreak.