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Anny Jackson
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.09 16:44:00 -
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/10/world/spies-dragnet-reaches-a-playing-field-of-elves-and-trolls.html?_r=1&
I mean they were spying for WoW and Second Life, but not for EVE. Or they tried but couldn't handle with counterspying? |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1991
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Posted - 2013.12.09 17:10:00 -
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The fact that they've infiltrated EVE is still top secret. They can safely announce that they've infiltrated WoW and Second Life, because those players are chumps. EVE players, though.... |
Anya Klibor
Error-404
Cup Of ConKrete.
551
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Posted - 2013.12.09 17:16:00 -
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World of Warcraft and Second Life are based in the United States, so the NSA could get a FISA court to issue a warrant to do so and then have Blizzard and the creators of Second Life served with those unConstitutional warrants that also prevent them from mentioning the fact they are doing so. However, EvE Online s based out of Iceland, and the servers are in England. That extrajudicial territory, and even if they did serve CCP with the same paperwork, as a non-US entity they aren't required to follow through with the requirements not to mention it or tell anyone. The most the US government can do is prevent us from playing EvE Online again, but that would cause a diplomatic incident, believe it or not. |
Random McNally
The Vogon Poet's Armada
Punch Drunk Lemmings
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Posted - 2013.12.09 17:18:00 -
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They just didn't want to admit they fell prey to isk doublers.
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
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Posted - 2013.12.09 17:29:00 -
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The NSA agents detached to Iceland where invited to a Thorrabl+¦t dinner and still are recovering.
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Matokin Lemant
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Posted - 2013.12.09 17:42:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:The NSA agents detached to Iceland where invited to a Thorrabl+¦t dinner and still are recovering.
You could be partly right on that ish I think where eve is an EU based game there is allot more red tape for the NSA to go through in order to "monitor" eve.
Or they could already be here and just refused to say anything about it  |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.12.09 18:11:00 -
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We do not know the full list of involved games yet.
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Robby Altair
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Posted - 2013.12.09 18:47:00 -
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"SAIC and Lockheed Martin won contracts worth several million dollars, administered by an office within the intelligence community that finances research projects. " Current, or future millions of dollars in black box contracts. Off the books.
Probably this data well also be transferred to their consumer research divisions.
It is GIGO application development. |
Commissar Kate
Team Evil
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Posted - 2013.12.09 18:55:00 -
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Robby Altair wrote:"SAIC and Lockheed Martin won contracts worth several million dollars, administered by an office within the intelligence community that finances research projects. " Current, or future millions of dollars in black box contracts. Off the books.
Probably this data well also be transferred to their consumer research divisions.
Haha the once famous Lockheed that used to build amazing aircraft.
Now they just spy on us and build ****** fighters that try to kill their pilots and that cost way too much to develop.
People, who talk, don't know. People, who know, don't talk. |
claire xxx
Bitter Vets and Friends
66
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Posted - 2013.12.09 19:07:00 -
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In before anyone starts a conspiracy theory that The Mittani and Goonswarm are actually all NSA secret agents. |
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Anny Jackson
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.09 20:42:00 -
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claire xxx wrote:In before anyone starts a conspiracy theory that The Mittani and Goonswarm are actually all NSA secret agents.
They aren't? |
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
365
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Posted - 2013.12.09 22:27:00 -
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claire xxx wrote:In before anyone starts a conspiracy theory that The Mittani and Goonswarm are actually all NSA secret agents.
You're too late for that, there's already a rumor that Goonswarm is just an NSA/CIA front. Maybe some of their spies in Goonswarm have their alts recruited in your corporation to spy there! Spyception!
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Slade Trillgon
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
1070
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Posted - 2013.12.09 22:38:00 -
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Maybe because they determined that the type of person that plays EvE is already on their watch list for numerous other potential reasons  |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
14807
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Posted - 2013.12.09 22:48:00 -
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They've been too busy shitting up GD and C&P with threads about suicide ganking and highsec safety to do any spying.
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Hesod Adee
Perkone
Caldari State
202
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Posted - 2013.12.10 00:10:00 -
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claire xxx wrote:In before anyone starts a conspiracy theory that The Mittani and Goonswarm are actually all NSA secret agents.
Not NSA. CIA |
Mudkest
Adventurers
125
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Posted - 2013.12.10 00:34:00 -
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Quote:The spies have created make-believe characters to snoop and to try to recruit informers, while also collecting data and contents of communications between players, according to the documents
so if I get this right, theye paid someone to sit in the jita of wow to read all the spam there to see if someone mentioned theye were going to blow up something or if someone wanted to trade their al-qaida dollars for us dollars(or al-qaida dollars for gold, then gold for us dollars)
hmm, maybe I should set up a contract with secret documents for 5bil and then spam jita with "Battleplans to blow up the whitehouse. DO NOT GIVE TO THE CIA!!!" |
Hesod Adee
Perkone
Caldari State
204
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Posted - 2013.12.10 01:26:00 -
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If you figured out that an Eve player was also working for the NSA, how would you ask him to misuse NSA resources for your benefit ? |
Garandras
Black Aces
Against ALL Authorities
85
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Posted - 2013.12.10 01:34:00 -
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They probally are in EvE..
but the news reports are for the general population.. How many people do you know in the real world that have heard about EvE and then compare it to the amount of people you know that have heard about WoW and 2nd Life |
Graygor
1kB Realty
1kB Galactic
92059
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Posted - 2013.12.10 03:09:00 -
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They already are in EVE but are probably regular players. I mean look at the variety of players we have now, id bet damn good money we have a large number of people from the intelligence services here.
Theyre taking the meta to the next level....
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Faidin
Domination Heavy Industries
Atrocitas
0
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Posted - 2013.12.10 04:10:00 -
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The wackos are spying on Eve - just like other mmorpgs, but especially Eve with it's international player base...only a moron would assume they're not doing it b/c the media didn't mention Eve by name...I would wager they deeper into Eve than all the other games out there combined. No joke. |
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Faidin
Domination Heavy Industries
Atrocitas
0
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Posted - 2013.12.10 04:13:00 -
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Mudkest wrote:Quote:The spies have created make-believe characters to snoop and to try to recruit informers, while also collecting data and contents of communications between players, according to the documents so if I get this right, theye paid someone to sit in the jita of wow to read all the spam there to see if someone mentioned theye were going to blow up something or if someone wanted to trade their al-qaida dollars for us dollars(or al-qaida dollars for gold, then gold for us dollars)
No they are more likely paid to sit in TS and other voice coms to initiate anti-government conversations in an attempt too bait people into making compromising statements. Those IP's are likely flagged so the cpu can be hijacked, all in the interest of national security, to make sure they aren't a 'bad guy.'
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baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
9013
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Posted - 2013.12.10 05:37:00 -
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I can neither confirm nor deny that GIA has a spy in the NSA.
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Trii Seo
Sabotage Incorporated
Executive Outcomes
351
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Posted - 2013.12.10 05:54:00 -
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Huh, I swear I saw a few shifty types on my last Jita run. Coat and fake mustache and everything...
On a more serious note a few employees probably already are in EVE - you know, just playing it. It does attract a certain breed of people.
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Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics
CODE.
948
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Posted - 2013.12.10 13:33:00 -
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Graygor wrote:They already are in EVE but are probably regular players. I mean look at the variety of players we have now, id bet damn good money we have a large number of people from the intelligence services here. Theyre taking the meta to the next level....
Basically this. Open Source Information (that's stuff anyone can find) can be pretty damn powerful, you just have to collate it all together and find trends.
The most likely "spy" on EVE...some bored junior enlisted intelligence analyst who plays EVE anyway. Takes notes on people in his corp who say interesting anti-american things, and hands it to his superiors.
When I was in the military, we got bombarded with "report shady dudes" notices and such. "Every Soldier A Source" and all that jazz.
The risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP). |
Carnagie
Viziam
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.12.10 14:28:00 -
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Somer blink is a money laundering front for the CIA/NSA, someone had to say it. |
Paul Otichoda
Electric Sun Associates
78
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Posted - 2013.12.10 14:39:00 -
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On a more serious note I do think the EVE online is probably the kind of game intelligence services would actually want to look at as a way of communicating with people. What with its global servers (apart from China) it would allow people from around the world to talk to one another in a way that wouldn't be normally flagged as communications.
And before people points out the CCP is based in Iceland. I would point out that the main server is in London. Nothing is going to stop someone just leaving a maintenance line open that only they know about. |
KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1223
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Posted - 2013.12.10 15:10:00 -
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Its a well known fact that the NSA have no less than twelve, -TWELVE- Black Legion spies.
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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
Home Front Coalition
791
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Posted - 2013.12.10 15:43:00 -
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NSA is full of risk averse carebears. I say we collectively wardec and destroy them. |
Robby Altair
66
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Posted - 2013.12.10 15:54:00 -
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World of Warcraft - The Daily Show,.... December 9, 2013
It is GIGO application development. |
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
64
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Posted - 2013.12.10 16:30:00 -
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Commissar Kate wrote:Robby Altair wrote:"SAIC and Lockheed Martin won contracts worth several million dollars, administered by an office within the intelligence community that finances research projects. " Current, or future millions of dollars in black box contracts. Off the books.
Probably this data well also be transferred to their consumer research divisions. Haha the once famous Lockheed that used to build amazing aircraft. Now they just spy on us and build ****** fighters that try to kill their pilots and that cost way too much to develop.
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