Or was it the fact nothing changed for it?

Rifter is fine in a a gang, stop trying to balance everything for solo, this is not a solo game...

I enjoyed the Rifter being **** for quite a while..

But the novelty is wearing off.

Frigs need another balance pass, Punisher/rifter are both hot garbage.

An Iteron V is fine in a gang too.

Both Rifter and Punisher are fine in a select number of cases. In the Punisher's case, when a giant cheap brick is needed for tackle or such. The Rifter is useful when you need complete unpredictability, or one of the rare situations where being "okay" at a lot of things is better than being "great" at a couple things.

I'd give the Punisher (along with several select other ships) the 5% resistance bonus back, plus a possible slight increase in base tracking of all small lasers.

For the Rifter, I would just switch its damage/tracking bonuses to RoF/falloff, resulting in a slight paper DPS increase, decrease in tracking, and increase in falloff. It differentiates it from every other small autocannon ship in both fitting and fighting style, and gives an entry point to projectile falloff PvP.

Thanks for that input.

Rifter is fine in a a gang, stop trying to balance everything for solo, this is not a solo game...

You're welcome. If you ever need a list of ships that work fine in a gang, let me know.

I enjoyed the Rifter being **** for quite a while..

But the novelty is wearing off.

Both Rifter and Punisher are fine in a select number of cases. In the Punisher's case, when a giant cheap brick is needed for tackle or such. The Rifter is useful when you need complete unpredictability, or one of the rare situations where being "okay" at a lot of things is better than being "great" at a couple things.

I'd give the Punisher (along with several select other ships) the 5% resistance bonus back, plus a possible slight increase in base tracking of all small lasers.

For the Rifter, I would just switch its damage/tracking bonuses to RoF/falloff, resulting in a slight paper DPS increase, decrease in tracking, and increase in falloff. It differentiates it from every other small autocannon ship in both fitting and fighting style, and gives an entry point to projectile falloff PvP.

5% reduction in inertia modifier is all it needs.

It hits harder than a slasher. Tanks more than a slasher and is way more flexible than a slasher.

The reduction in inertia gives it something of it's old self back without being OP.

5% reduction in inertia modifier is all it needs.

It hits harder than a slasher. Tanks more than a slasher and is way more flexible than a slasher.

The reduction in inertia gives it something of it's old self back without being OP.

So the glory days of a rifter eating everything are over and no its probaly the worse t1 frig for pvp. the dps on small auto cannons is horrible to begin with. what frig do people who fly armor rupture and armor canes fly? breacher(mini cyclone)...

Switch damage bonus for rate of fire bonus, switch 4th highslot for 4th lowslot.

Fixed.

The rifter is as good as it used to be. It can still do the very same stuff.
The difference is, however, that there is probably not a single cruiser out now that might have struggle fighting off a Rifter, and that all the other frigs are now on par or above the Rifter. It's engagement profile got reduced.


It certainly can still fight some frigs, examples here are Incursus and (behold:) Slasher, but it usually gets steamrolled by anything. Still good for gangstuff, ofc. Never hurts to have another Rifter with you.

A fix would be:

Falloff + RoF
or
4 Turretslots with Tracking + Falloff
or
3-3-4

A good rifter dies to a good Incursus 10/10 times

Would go a long way.

utility highs slots = worst slots