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Zevrik	Posted - 2005.11.15 23:00:00 - [1] Just thought I'd chime in with my Eve on Linux experiences. I purchased Cedega 5.0, installed the deb and ran Cedega, did all the updates and Eve is running quite nicely. I didn't have to do any tweaks or anything, I used the default Cedega settings (other than running it is in Desktop Mode cause I have dual monitors). System this is running on: Debian unstable Nvidia GeForce4 MX 440 AGP (with latest Nvidia drivers) 1G RAM AMD Athlon XP 2400+ Kernel 2.6.14-ck5 Unfortunately that's my computer at work so I can't really play on it, so I haven't had the chance to try any battles with it but I did fly around some and gates were no problem. I also tried to get it running on my laptop at home but because ATI is the worst company evar they won't release Linux drivers for mobile chipsets.
Zevrik	Posted - 2005.12.20 16:43:00 - [2] Has anyone using Cedega found a workaround for the RMR patch, I've tried several ways to get Cedega to use the new font, but still I only get white boxes.
Zevrik	Posted - 2006.01.14 00:26:00 - [3] I have Eve running in full screen with Cedega 5.0.3 on Debian sid. It runs without any problems, hell I even get 20 more fps running with Cedega than running on WinXP.
Zevrik	Posted - 2006.01.25 23:25:00 - [4] I have it running full screen 1280x1024, what I did was install it on my winxp partition, change the resolution and all the other Esc menu settings I wanted, then I copied the Settings dir into my Linux install of Eve, and that's it. running in 1280x1024, other than the Esc menu and 408 years bugs, Eve runs splendily on my Debian box and I get 20 more fps then running on winblows.
Zevrik	Posted - 2006.02.01 17:08:00 - [5] My Eve system: mb: ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe cpu: AMD 64 3700+ ATHLON video: BFG 7800 GT 256mb PCI-Express 16x ram: 2G 3 SATA drives, 2 in a Raid0 for Eve install Debian sid amd64 linux 2.6.15-ck3 nvidia driver 8174 I'm sure I get beter frame rates in Linux, because my XP is only 32 bit, where as my Linux install is 64 bit. As for that I havent done any performance tweaks to Cedega or Eve prefs
Zevrik	Posted - 2006.02.14 03:11:00 - [6] Originally by: Durlok Edited by: Durlok on 14/02/2006 02:28:03 I setup a Ubuntu Linux install today and got cedega 5.03 installed. I can load up Eve just fine (copy pasted from a windows install). In Windows I get 80-100fps, in linux I get 20-25. I am currently wondering if there is any decent way to increase performance, I'm currently running the latest ATI drivers for my 9800 pro. I am also wondering (since I'm a linux noob) if I can run Eve on one linux desktop in full screen at a lower resolution 1280x1024, and switch back to the main linux desktop in 1600x1200. (I think this multiple desktop function is pretty sweet and I want to take advantage of it). If anyone could tell me a keyboard shortcut to switch between desktops that would be great, and if anyone knows of a way to make one lower resolution than the other that would be even better! The ATI Linux drivers are known to be pretty crappy, I think they released new ones yesterday might want to check on that. I don't think it's possible to run virtual desktops at diffrent resolutions since that is a window manager function not X. You could resize X why it is still running if it's set for multiple resolutions which it usually is by default. Using Ctrl Alt -, you could resize down to 1024 then switch to the virtual desktop running eve, then when you switch back to your main desktop resize back up to 1280 using Ctrl Alt + Not sure how that will affect Cedega though
Zevrik	Posted - 2006.02.16 15:06:00 - [7] I installed 5.1, no noticable changes to Eve for me
Zevrik	Posted - 2006.03.12 17:42:00 - [8] They only have build 3805 files available on the site, so i grabbed the trinity.dll from 3805 and map is working again. So far no other side effects that I can see
Zevrik	Posted - 2006.03.14 21:56:00 - [9] * Cedega 5.1.1 * Available as of March 14, 2006 Cedega 5.1.1 brings a bundle of fixes to users. A number of fixes providing greater stability in EVE-Online« means it no longer crashes going to the menus. Just saw this, havent had the chance to try 5.1.1, but this is a good sign.
Zevrik	Posted - 2006.03.22 15:10:00 - [10] Originally by: Sevarus James Originally by: Kargyraa I just must have good timing as I decded again to check on trangsgaming's cedega ability to run eve a few days ago and found this thread, and was quite releved, been wanting to play for a while now, but only running debian I didn't have that option until recentlly. I did run into a few troubles and have one question optimizing the config to get it to run smoother. My experience so far is installing was a little quirky, but as soon as I turned on the debuging option, it worked fine, so odd behivour but I installed the newest client. I do have a question, any one have any suggest/tips to increase preformance in game play. I checked out the wiki and uped my buffersize to 400, but the game still lags out my system and is quite choppy making it frustrating to play when opening any window, making any modification to my ship and in combat. The game is stable and never crashes, just has 5-15second lags (sometimes more). I think it may be slightly a memory problem so I am upgrading my memory, but looking at the specs of others in this thread I don't see it as being that. I am gonna tweak with the settings a bit and hopefully clear out the lag, any suggestions would be appricated. System amd64 3500 2 gigs of ram (after upgrade) nvidia 6600 GT debian-amd64 are you running 64 bit debian, or 32bit? There have been some comments in the transgaming site regarding flakiness with 32bit cedega. 2nd...5-15 second lags? where? how? I don't have any lag other than high traffic systems which were the same lag that I experienced under windows. As for opening windows and such, again, I'm not seeing ANY difference from native windows to cedega in using the EVE interface. If you are using 64bit debian, I'd say the 'lags' and chop may be due to a 32 bit program running under a 64bit OS. -just guessing as I don't know which you are running. Buffer size recommendations should be approximately 1/2 of existing ram, however, I normally set my to around 250, and have experienced no problems. (running 1 gig ram). It IS known that running EVE windowed IN a window on the desktop will have performance issues. Running eve "fullscreen" in a cedega window seems much snappier, but true fullscreen is still the best performer. I run Cedega on Debian amd64 and haven't experienced any issues with running 32 bit Cedega on 64 bit Debian. Some things to look at: 1. Make sure it's not running in windowed mode, as has been pointed out the performance is terrible 2. If you have sound turned on, dont use the Cedega alsa driver, it makes Eve run at a crawl, use the Cedega OSS driver and make sure you have the OSS compatability layer turned on. (this is in the kernel, if you're using the stock Debian kernel it should be on already) 3. If you installed Cedega via the deb package it may need 32 bit libraries, make sure ia32-libs is installed. (Being that you can actually run Eve this is probably not the case) Also you may need the Nvidia 32 bit compatability layer installed too. Not sure exactly what your problem may be, but just throwing some suggestions of things I have done to my Debian amd64 system, I didnt make any buffersize changes and Eve runs better under Cedega than it does on the windows partition. amd64 3700 2G ram nvidia 7800gt Debian amd64 unstable

Zevrik	Posted - 2006.03.28 22:53:00 - [11] Originally by: Ryushe Great stuff this is. I tried it under a Debian unstable machine, with Cedega 5.1.1 and a dual-monitor setup (2560x1024 max) . It runs fullscreen, it'll even run in a window I can't move when I choose it pressing esc->graphics->windowed (2048x768). However (and I hope someone can come up with some suggestions on this): 1) I can't get it to START windowed in 1024x768. 2) Graphics are choppy in windowed or fullscreen mode. When moving the camera around, it 'stutters'. Dragging stuff from one hangar to another will complete before I even see the stuff actually moving. 3) EVE crashes when I press 'close window' in the esc menu. Besides that, this is more than I've ever seen under Cedega. I'm (albeit choppy) able to fly outside :) Cedega 5.1 has issues with dual head cards, if you search on their forums for twinview, there are some bandaids you can use to get it to run in Cedega windowed mode, but it's pretty crappy. I have a trouble ticket opened with them, I went back to 5.0.3 where it works great.
Zevrik	Posted - 2006.04.10 13:51:00 - [12] New Nvidia drivers broke my setup, but once I hashed that out I'm seeing around 10 more fps. And just thought I'd throw out my dealings with Cedega 5.1 and Twinview. Due to the breakage of 5.1 and dualhead cards using Twinview, I disabled Twinview and set my displays up as seperate X screens. Now I can continue running Eve full screen on one monitor and everything else on the other. And my fps has increased by at least 10 not using Twinview or Xinerama. The downside to seperate X screens is that you can't drag windows between them. I only use the one screen for Eve anways, so not a big deal for me. I've been keeping track of my fps under all these various configurations and I will post some benchmarks soon. I'm still on the hunt for the best X configuration for Eve
Zevrik	Posted - 2006.04.20 13:51:00 - [13] Originally by: Sevarus James A bit of info. Some new distros come with "powernowd" which scales the cpu's. This is disastrous for EVE if its left on as it causes the frame rate to bounce and sway constantly. The CPU should only scale when it is idle, while playing Eve it's never idle. I've been running powernow and Eve for months with 0 problems. I would suggest perhaps the default Ubuntu setup for powernowd is set to be a little agressive.
Zevrik	Posted - 2006.04.21 13:41:00 - [14]
Zevrik	Posted - 2006.04.28 01:42:00 - [15] Originally by: Ahric For those of you running a 64-bit system, do you use the 64-bit version or the 32-bit of the distro? Also I was curious as to which distro you would recommend. I usually use Gentoo, but the ebuilds are not marked as stable as often as they used to. My system specs are: AMD 3800+ X2 2GB RAM ABIT KN8 SLI Mobo Dual XFX 256MB 6800s Thanks I have that same MB, I am using the amd64 version of Debian and it works great. As far as which distro, that is the kind of question that sparks the my distro is better than yours debate :P If youre looking for a somewhat bleeding edge stable desktop distro, then Ubuntu seems to be the popular one these days. If youre looking for something that may not be always stable but bleeding edge and more hands on, then Debian Sid is a good choice. -- Lt Commander Zevrik Fleet Operations, C.N.S. Letalis Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Zevrik	Posted - 2006.04.28 14:43:00 - [16] Originally by: Ahric Thank you for the reply. I am playing with Ubuntu right now. Has anyone had a problem when upgrading to the newest nvidia-glx driver? I had everything working fine with dual lcds and then I upgraded to 8756 and X stays on a blank screen. Any ideas? The best I have gotten is the left screen on with a virtual resolution of 2880x900. Usually I have both screens combined at that resolution. Thanks. 8756 removed some xorg.conf settings that broke my Twinview and required some tweaking. If you could include your xorg.conf might be able to figure something out. -- Lt Commander Zevrik Fleet Operations, C.N.S. Letalis Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Zevrik	Posted - 2006.04.29 17:02:00 - [17] Originally by: Ahric Zevrik, here is the part of my xorg that deals with Twinview: Section "Device" Identifier"NVIDIA 6800" Driver"nvidia" BusID"PCI:1:0:0" Option "TwinView" Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "28-58" Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "43-60" Option "MetaModes" "1440x900,1440x900;1024x768,1024x768" Option "ConnectedMonitor" "DFP-0,DFP-1" Option "TwinViewOrientation" "DFP-1 RightOf DFP-0" EndSection Thank you for any possible help. 8756 changed the way it validates video modes, 1440x900, that looks like a widescreen resolution that probably isn't in Nvidia's list of modes. So it's trying to run at a clockrate your monitor can't deal with. What you can try is look in your Xorg log file and see what the clockrate is for your monitors, then you take that and your desired resolution and create a custom ModeLine (theres a few sites that have tool for this, just dont remember them off the top of my head) Then in your Monitor section add the ModeLine, this is what mine looks like : ModeLine "1280x1024_0" 135.0 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync Make sure you give it a unique name, the _0 works fine. Then in your MetaModes change it to that new mode: Option "MetaModes" "1440x900_0,1440x900_0;1024x768,1024x768" This is what I had to do with 8756 because with a dual-head card the 2nd head runs at a lower clock rate and Nvidia kept trying to run it at a Mode the LCD would not except, so this forces Nvidia to use the proper mode. -- Lt Commander Zevrik Fleet Operations, C.N.S. Letalis Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Zevrik	Posted - 2006.05.08 13:55:00 - [18] Edited by: Zevrik on 08/05/2006 13:55:20 Originally by: Sevarus James Originally by: Naurhir I am having an issue where if I move the mouse while under Eve, it drops my fps. The most dramatic effect of this can be seen at the char select screen, where I can drop it from 290fps to 5 just by shaking the mouse. When Eve was up, I ran glxgears, and moving mouse over it also slowed things down. I am not sure if this is due to the graphics driver, mouse driver, usb driver, or maybe lack of cpu e.g. drawing a selection box in old versions of windows. I have noticed my mouse flicker at times, if that is an indicator of anything. I am running Ubuntu - Dapper - 32bit - gnome Using the 8756 nvidia drivers. My kernel is: 2.6.15-21-k7 Using gnome. I didn't have this problem with all the same hardware, in the same setups, but under Kubuntu - Breezy - 32bit - kde. I can't fully recall, but think I was using 2.6.15.12 or 2.6.15.17 as my kernel. My hardware is the following: DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 SLI-DR Expert AMD Athlon 64 4000+ Clawhammer 2x 1024mb OCZ EL DDR PC-3200 400MHz Titanium Rev2 Leadtek WinFast Geforce 6800 GT - 256mb PCI-E x16 SoundBlaster Audigy 2 ZS (Have Live! and X-FI available) 2x Maxtor 300gb - IDE NEC DVD+/-RW ND-3550A BG - IDE OCZ PowerStream 600w - for mainboard / drives / cards Antec TruePower 2.0 430w - for water cooler / case mods only. Aquabox passive water cooling Microsoft Natural Multimedia Keyboard (ps2) Logitech G5 Laser Mouse (usb) We talked about this one online in game last night. I did some more searching and am coming up empty regarding the fps changes. (checked kubuntu forums as well.) If anyone else out there has any ideas, please feel free to contribute here. I'll keep hunting, but right now that is an odd issue. The only thing I can think of here.....that laser usb mouse...is that a bluetooth device? That COULD be the issue. I'd hook up a regular non usb mouse (corded) just to verify that the slowdown isn't bluetooth/usb related. (by non usb, I mean go find a ratty 'regular' mouse and try with it without the laser mouse installed.) Think perhaps it is powernowd? Didn't you have odd issues with powernowd and Dapper? -- Commander Zevrik Fleet Operations, C.N.S. Letalis Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Zevrik	Posted - 2006.05.17 17:40:00 - [19] Mouse affecting FPS is rather odd. You could try turning off dx_grab in the Cedega config, that will give control of the mouse back to X. -- Commander Zevrik Fleet Operations, C.N.S. Letalis Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Eve on Linux
Zevrik	Posted - 2006.05.18 18:40:00 - [20] Well the fact that CCP is actually talking to Transgaming about things and Eve is at least a good sign for us. -- Commander Zevrik Fleet Operations, C.N.S. Letalis Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Eve on Linux

Zevrik	Posted - 2006.05.22 13:54:00 - [21] Originally by: Mutsumi Otohime When I copied the folder over, and ran "cedega eve.exe" on the command line I got the following : Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega/Point2Play_gui.py", line 35, in ? raise Point2PlayError(_("Unable to load GTK2 Python bindings") + "(%s)" % str( sys.exc_info()[1] ) ) NameError: name '_' is not definedlinux32 cedega I'll try with a fresh install though, as recommended. In order to use Cedega from the command line, you have to give it more arguments that that (cedega --help will list them). Your error is related to the Cedega gui (Point2Play), you do not have the GTK Python bindings installed, if you tell us what Distro you are running, we can point you iin the right direction of installing those. -- Commander Zevrik Fleet Operations, C.N.S. Letalis Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Eve on Linux
Zevrik	Posted - 2006.05.22 18:18:00 - [22] I couldn't find any information on what the Python GTK bindings are called in Gentoo, basically you should be looking for something called python-gtk2 or gtk2-python -- Commander Zevrik Fleet Operations, C.N.S. Letalis Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Eve on Linux
Zevrik	Posted - 2006.05.23 22:19:00 - [23] I get about 70 in station, 40 flying around, and 30 at gates and other high traffic areas. This is with a 7800 gt 256mb and an Athlon 64 3200+ -- Commander Zevrik Fleet Operations, C.N.S. Letalis Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Eve on Linux
Zevrik	Posted - 2006.05.24 13:43:00 - [24] Originally by: Narusegawa Naru Anyone tried running 2 clients in Cedega? When I do the first one has 99% cpu usage and the 2nd client can't even do jack with it's 5% cpu usage. You would have to mess with the Cedega scheduler, soon as you start the first instance of Cedega it gets niced to have cpu priority. -- Commander Zevrik Fleet Operations, C.N.S. Letalis Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Eve on Linux
Zevrik	Posted - 2006.05.25 21:58:00 - [25] Originally by: Ahric Zevrik, Thank you for your help. The newest Nvidia driver 8762 fixed the X crashing problem. I now have dual screens again. Thanks again. Glad to hear it's working. With the 8762 driver I'am seeing around 5 more fps. I also turned off the cedega scheduler, set wine prio to low as Sevarus did, and wow what a diffrence, not only does the game itself come up a bit faster but also a decent increase in fps. Using the same Eve settings on my xp partition, Eve runs about 10-20 more fps in Linux than WinXP -- Commander Zevrik Fleet Operations, C.N.S. Letalis Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Eve on Linux
Zevrik	Posted - 2006.06.08 13:54:00 - [26] Originally by: Xerpex Hello, I'm having trouble getting EVE to work with linux... I'm running Ubuntu Dapper Drake, got the nvidia drivers installed and am running with compiz, if it matters. I got Cedega 5.1. The installer just freezed, so I copied my windows install to Linux, and tried to run that doing "cedega eve.exe" in the terminal. I get this error message: X Error of failed request: BadImplementation (server does not implement operation) Major opcode of failed request: 129 (MIT-SHM) Minor opcode of failed request: 5 (X_ShmCreatePixmap) Serial number of failed request: 3555 Current serial number in output stream: 3566 X Error of failed request: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) Major opcode of failed request: 55 (X_CreateGC) Resource id in failed request: 0x360034d Serial number of failed request: 3561 Current serial number in output stream: 3566 Anybody know how to fix this? Compiz and Xgl are still very experimental and from what I gather tend to cause issues with any other program that attempts to use GL, this is the most likely cause. I would turn off compiz and try the installer, if that doesn't do it disbale Xgl and use the regular Xorg server and try it. -- Commander Zevrik Fleet Operations, C.N.S. Letalis Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Eve on Linux
Zevrik	Posted - 2006.06.18 23:26:00 - [27] Cedega and twinview dont get along anymore, it will report both your monitors as the screen size to Eve. I had to turn off twinview and setup X as 2 seperate screens, than Eve can run fullscreen on one mointor and you can still access the other one. -- Commander Zevrik Fleet Operations, C.N.S. Letalis Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Eve on Linux
Zevrik Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.08.12 17:14:00 - [28] Originally by: Yaevep Originally by: Sevarus James <snip> Hopefully very soon the ATI owners will have performance that will rival exceed even the nvidia side...another reason I say this is that AMD who recently bought ATI are actually considering open sourcing large portions of the current "binaries" for the ATI card. This will almost CERTAINLY improve and improve DRASTICALLY this card's viability as a gaming card for linux. <snip> Any idea when? Are we talking it might happen this year? It's still in the rumour mill, but with Intel open sourcing the drivers for it's new chipset and AMD looking to get a leg up on both Intel and Nvidia, it would be in their best intrest to do so. -- Commander Zevrik Obikai Fleet Operations, C.N.S. Letalis Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Eve on Linux
Zevrik Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.08.21 21:35:00 - [29] The problem is what the hell do we have to do to get it supported officialy? The 40+ page active thread on their forums isn't enough, the multiple unanswered support requests seem to not be an indication to them that we actively play Eve on Cedega. -- Commander Zevrik Obikai Fleet Operations, C.N.S. Letalis Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Eve on Linux
Zevrik Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.08.22 18:31:00 - [30] Originally by: Sirisu Try the new 5.2.5 release of Cedega. EVE will work again :) Release Nodes Ok I stick my foot in my mouth and will stop bad talking Transgaming. That is most impressive, and they fixed the timer bug! -- Commander Zevrik Obikai Fleet Operations, C.N.S. Letalis Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Eve on Linux

Zevrik Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.08.23 03:15:00 - [31] 2.5.2 is looking good so far, corp time is finally working :P Getting about the same fps, chat windows are scrolling better, but that may be the Dragon client itself. Havent done any fighting yet, not trusting the server being stable just yet. -- Commander Zevrik Obikai Fleet Operations, C.N.S. Letalis Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Eve on Linux
Zevrik	Posted - 2007.01.30 22:44:00 - [32] Originally by: Dwindlehop Eve under Cedega and Teamspeak 2. Whenever I have Teamspeak 2 running, Eve can't get access to my audio. It throws a warning about no audio drivers being installed on startup. I would really like to be able to hear Teamspeak chat and Eve sound effects simultaneously. Has anyone encountered this problem and solved it? Anyone who doesn't have this problem, can you tell me details of your audio setup? I think I'm using OSS sound in Cedega. I tried ALSA but I don't believe it made a difference. I have an Asus P4P800 motherboard using the integrated audio ((ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller). Teamspeak works fine by itself. I use ALSA in my 2.6.17 kernel. I run Debian unstable. Eve works fine by itself. When I combine them I can't get audio from both applications. I believe the TS linux client uses OSS, OSS doesn't share audio. Don't remember how to fix it but search for TS and Alsa. Eve on Linux
Zevrik	Posted - 2007.02.01 14:42:00 - [33] Originally by: Still Hart Hey guys. I was looking to install linux on my laptop to see if I could handle it before sticking it on my main system. Thing is, I've been reading some stuff saying not to bother trying Eve and linux if you're not using nvidia. Now I have a decent ATI Mobility card in the laptop and Eve runs great under XP. Is it really hopeless?? Someone give me some hope! Also, assuming I were using it on a nice Nvidia system, I've recently heard of this Beryl thing that looks cool. Looked like there might be issues with beryl and eve? Can anyone comment? Thx! The ATI drivers are a bit behind in Linux but they do work, all though I'm not sure if ATI is still snubbing the Mobility chipsets (my laptop has one and the ATI linux drivers don't support mobility but I havent checked in a while) Eve on Linux
Zevrik	Posted - 2007.04.12 00:06:00 - [34] Cedega 6 is also working fine here, no noticable improvements over 5.2. Actually had less fps with 6 with my settings, switched to using the Default scheduler and I'm getting the same exact fps as 5.2. Serve the State!

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