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Lux Klein
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Posted - 2003.09.06 17:22:00 -
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Is it possible to run even under linux natively? with wine support? i'm thinking about changing the system (as i already have other 2 comp running linux for awhile). but this one i have is the only machine fast enough to run eve. i don't want to migrate to linux and then find out that i have to say goodbye to eve. has anyone done so before? any ports?
your help would be much appreciated
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Rhiannan
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Posted - 2003.09.06 19:29:00 -
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Excuse my ignorance, but is there even a port or alternative emulation software to support DirectX 9 runtimes? If so, then I can't see it being a problem as long as you have a Win32 exec emulation/translator.
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Lux Klein
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Posted - 2003.09.10 05:53:00 -
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supposely WineX has a much better support in directx than the regular wine, but:
1) i don't know if it will go as high as dx9
2) you have to pay for the software which was originally free and under GPL
does eve run based on dx or opengl?
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2003.09.11 13:23:00 -
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EVE is a DirectX game. And I have not tried EVE in Wine (my Linux machine is the laptop, which has no real 3D card) or WineX, so I can't help you there.
Anyway, as EVE is DX and not GL, I think WineX will be your only possible salvation.
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Lux Klein
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Posted - 2003.09.12 04:06:00 -
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just to provide a little update..
i am trying to run it under WineX (got a copy). winex does have dx7 included, but since eve requires 9... i know as soon as i can get winex to suppoort dx9 eve isn't a big problem. hey, at least i saw the startup screen pop up under linux =)
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Bjorn Nilfheim
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Posted - 2003.09.12 21:08:00 -
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i had to install a windows partition on my linux box to get eve to run. dx 8.1 is as high as Wine goes, and there are no immediate plans to bring it higher. perhaps if ccp had used opengl....
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Tremelai
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Posted - 2003.09.15 18:45:00 -
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The WineX project reports that eve beta worked flawlessly under linux until the later betas and production implemented DX9 direct play.
WineX started early DX9 development and they usually roll up their code to the WineHQ source tree. It should be a matter of time.
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d ArkAngel
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Posted - 2003.09.21 23:15:00 -
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the day this works I will cry big happy tears of joy.
my linux partition is sorely underused since I cannot play even and use linux at the same time. I'm having to run the windows ports of all my fave programs :(
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Megagame
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Posted - 2003.09.22 11:41:00 -
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Edited by: Megagame on 22/09/2003 11:42:56
Yes If they only hav be samrt and use OpenGL for eve. then my prehila 128mb card also coud work perfekt in eve....
I know atlest 10 linux users the wants to play eve, but dont want to use windows...
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d ArkAngel
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Posted - 2003.09.22 15:15:00 -
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I would guess we stand more chance of DX9 support in wine, than OpenGL suport in eve.
wonder if we could write our own open GL client 
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Skelator
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Posted - 2003.09.25 04:02:00 -
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the day this works I will cry big happy tears of joy.
my linux partition is sorely underused since I cannot play even and use linux at the same time. I'm having to run the windows ports of all my fave programs :(
Untill M$ once again changes or wrinkles their code to keep the competition out of the game.
Thats why they totally dropped GL support although they say its "What our customers wanted"
Dang it id like to meet these so called customers M$ keeps talking about.
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Cyberwizzard
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Posted - 2003.10.08 12:05:00 -
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First of all WineX is free if you don't mind using some tricks to install games: the paid version has nice wizards for installing and tuning games.
However, the entire engine and all of the parts that are required for playing games are there in the CVS version....
Secondly, i heard about some guys who claimed it was merely a matter of adding a function and fixing the return value that would allow EVE to load and play...
EVE doesn't require all the tricks that DX9 has up its sleeve, it can do with DX8 perfectly, just some effect won't be as detailed... who cares, as long as it works :)
And yes, the beta did work under DX8 and WineX... I think it did upto build 890 or something....
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xzdsa
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Posted - 2003.11.03 22:41:00 -
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so anyone who tried to play eve now in linux with winex?
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Erdgeist
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Posted - 2003.11.21 08:48:00 -
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I have the same problem, but i'll keep on it. one think is, that linux allows to look and work on "windows"-partitions like ntfs, so the best way is to install windows on a seperate partition ( so you have a dll-libary and less troubles ) the problem is, that wine is for ms-programs like word or excel and wineX is more for games.
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Xailia
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Posted - 2003.11.23 05:26:00 -
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Actually EVE requires DX9 because it uses some aspects of DirectPlay9. Which apparently lets them do a lot of updates online without having to patch the client. Having OpenGL would be nice, but as DX9 is required, they just stick with D3D. 
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TheJanitor
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Posted - 2003.12.02 00:59:00 -
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I see latest Transgaming's version of Wine (as of a few days ago) now has warcraft iii working..which is a dX9 game... anyone try EVE with this new version of WINE?
If I can get EVE to work under linux.... windoes goes out the door.
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Macchius Rhade
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Posted - 2003.12.07 19:18:00 -
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I think my subscription to WineX is still valid so I'll have a go at the latest version. The only reason I boot into Windows more than my Linux-system is EVE.
Let's hope for the best!
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2003.12.09 11:52:00 -
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I only have a few windows apps that I cannot run in linux atm, and all of them should be possible to run with wine, except EVE. This means that if EVE starts working in linux, I can switch to linux 100%
(just gonna have to get rid of my microsoft keyboard and mouse )
I hope it will work soon, I don't want windows anymore..
Might be better to use sdl instead of dx, at least it's possible to run in both linux and windows then, but I don't think many game creators use it...
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DiabolicalSynrgy
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Posted - 2003.12.25 08:04:00 -
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I see latest Transgaming's version of Wine (as of a few days ago) now has warcraft iii working..which is a dX9 game... anyone try EVE with this new version of WINE?
If I can get EVE to work under linux.... windoes goes out the door.
Warcraft III is an OpenGL game. How do you think it works on the Macintosh?
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Ibeau Renoir
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Posted - 2004.01.05 23:20:00 -
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Edited by: Ibeau Renoir on 05/01/2004 23:49:28
Just adding my voice to the chorus of people who only use 'doze cause of Eve 
NWN and UT2k3 have Linux ports, Half-Life runs under Wine, NetHack is actually better under Linux. CD rippers, web browsers, programming tools are all far better under Linux. Jabber clients and OpenOffice.org fill their respective niches. The only reason I use 'doze is Eve's inability to run under Linux.
At the very least, please continue supporting Win98 for those hordes of people who can't afford to upgrade and/or don't want to for legal reasons (ie cos WinXP's license stinks like a Fedo).
Edit: You can use OpenGL with DirectX, e.g. Quake III. What you really want to know is whether it uses Direct3D. Anyway, if we're talking about whether it works under WineX, it's moot, since WineX implements a D3D API by translating it to OpenGL. It just gives a slight performance hit.
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Sevanna
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Posted - 2004.01.06 14:41:00 -
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hmm.. and the*****roach seems to have higer possibillity to rule the world than humans.. so who's actually the higer being?..
God creates man, man creates nuclear bombs, nuclear bombs destroy man,*****roaches rule the earth..
"why add this post... I have no idea"
:: rebell against opression ::
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Kreeela
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Posted - 2004.03.16 03:37:00 -
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No updates? No one that tried getting eve to work? Would be lovely to be able to abandon m$ again
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.03.16 08:47:00 -
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Edited by: Scorpyn on 16/03/2004 08:48:45
There is a 3.3 version of WineX out now. Anybody wants to try it? My linux install is too messed up at the moment 
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Mjolnir
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Posted - 2004.03.17 12:05:00 -
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WineX doesnt currently support dx9 titles, I believe they are still working on implementing all of the DX8 feature set into WineX. I have read they have gotten some pixel shader demos for dx8 and dx9 working, however I dont see WineX supporting EVE anytime soon. The way they have worked on getting compatability with games is a voting system. The games with the highest votes get the highest prioity on the development scale as to what support needs to get into WineX to make that game work perfectly. It seems that the highest rated game so far is HL2 which might have the side benefit of getting eve to work too since HL2 is a DX9 game.
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Brent Steel
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Posted - 2004.03.21 16:25:00 -
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Thats why they totally dropped GL support although they say its "What our customers wanted"
I don't recall being asked
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Cyberwizzard
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Posted - 2004.03.28 13:56:00 -
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If HL2 is supported EVE should work :)
But how long will it take before they finally managed to do that?
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Obeid El'Jozjani
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Posted - 2004.03.29 10:29:00 -
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I just bought a new PC. The only reason I still install Win98 is because of EvE!!!.
Because I need W98 I am obliged to try to get this crappy W98 coexist with Fedora (ie. fdisk does not recognise my 120 GB harddisk).
I DO NOT intend to buy Windows XP. Next OS WILL be Linux. Being not able to play EvE under linux could be a reason in the near future to quit EvE.
And that would be a pity as I really love to play EvE, but I hate to work with microsoft garbage.
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Kaylana Syi
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Posted - 2004.03.29 16:22:00 -
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Man there are a lot of people drinking Haterade. I develop for linux, on linux and linux itself. I also am a Graphics designer. I have the complete Adobe Suite bought legit for win32 cause I didn't have a Mac that was good enuff to get Mac OSX. I have had XP since day 1 and have never been let down by it. While it would be nice to have everything in linux... there is nothing wrong with XP if you PAY FOR IT. Don't buy XP HOME... just spring for XP PRO. Americans can buy 2000 PRO from Newegg.com for like 140 bux new if they don't want the XP liscencing. Until a breakout title supports only Linux you will be gaming on Windows for a while. Im not gonna buy a top tier PC to emulate a game on Linux using wineX to only be able to run that game like a mid range PC. I could just then buy a midrange PC and afford windows... see the logic?
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Obeid El'Jozjani
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Posted - 2004.04.01 07:46:00 -
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Edited by: Obeid El'Jozjani on 01/04/2004 08:10:12
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Man there are a lot of people drinking Haterade. I develop for linux, on linux and linux itself. I also am a Graphics designer. I have the complete Adobe Suite bought legit for win32 cause I didn't have a Mac that was good enuff to get Mac OSX. I have had XP since day 1 and have never been let down by it. While it would be nice to have everything in linux... there is nothing wrong with XP if you PAY FOR IT. Don't buy XP HOME... just spring for XP PRO. Americans can buy 2000 PRO from Newegg.com for like 140 bux new if they don't want the XP liscencing. Until a breakout title supports only Linux you will be gaming on Windows for a while. Im not gonna buy a top tier PC to emulate a game on Linux using wineX to only be able to run that game like a mid range PC. I could just then buy a midrange PC and afford windows... see the logic?
I don't see a reason why I should buy a new expensive OS just to be able to play a massive multiplayer game (xp =? x-box). This kind a games should be playable on a wide spectrum of os. Although the graphical possibilities may differ from os to os, it will open up this beautiful game to a broader range of people.
Why don't they develop a java client, completely independent from the os. May be not as glitchy as the windows version, but working on linux, mac, MS etc...
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DeathBunny
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Posted - 2004.04.09 17:30:00 -
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I run XP and yes its considerably faster then other M$ OS's. Of course theres a management problem with it using CPU time in the background.
I've used windows for so long now that when I did try a linux box well tried for a week and no luck (and yes im good at dealing with PC problems). Didn't know anyone that ran one in my area so I had to get info off the web to even try to set it up. Well I abandoned the project and reverted back to my trusty XP install.
I would love a linux box because it runs very effectivly and is much less resource intensive then Windows. Even though its emulated people still get more FPS then other boxes which means its running much faster. Oh ya besides that its much STABLER!.
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