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Solbright
Advanced Security And Asset Protection
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Posted - 2009.04.06 16:44:00 -
[2371]
More likely the nVidia 3D driver is no longer installed and you are trying to run with OpenGL emulation.
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Viliny
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.04.06 17:07:00 -
[2372]
Edited by: Viliny on 06/04/2009 17:09:14
runs great, can't change resolution away from 1680xwhatever and would be nice to play in a smaller window.
Can i edit this in a file somewhere or?
This is with ubuntu 8.10 and wine, just ran the installation in wine and voila :)
Edit: heh, fixed... loving it
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roq deelim
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Posted - 2009.04.06 22:36:00 -
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i updated the nvidia drivers to 185.13,
-> still no go
in winecfg i switched the dnsapi.dll library to builtin instead of native(windows)
-> eve running, but the "no models/station" bug present ;-(
i patched the wine 1.1.18 source with the http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=19924 patch (for 1.1.17 but still aplys to 1.1.18 src) and compiled.
-> eve works like a charm. performance is acceptable...around 100fps inside station @ 1280x960 resolution without shadows with high textures and med shaders. about 60fps in space.
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Solbright
Advanced Security And Asset Protection
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Posted - 2009.04.07 13:52:00 -
[2374]
Good stuff.
I'm thinking the models not loading issue is the evolving deferred loading getting a little aggressive on the deferring.
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Mes Ren
No Trademark
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Posted - 2009.04.07 18:09:00 -
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Edited by: Mes Ren on 07/04/2009 18:10:02
already solved
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Xeiyu Crimson
Minmatar
El Bastardos
Freedom of Elbas
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Posted - 2009.04.15 04:21:00 -
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I tried out the patches on the mailing list and it looks like with a little luck the next version of wine will run EVE with no patches for most users. Only ATI users who want to run eve on high shader settings will need to modify the wine source in order to work around an ATI varying quirk, low and medium shader settings didn't seem to call on the varying bug.
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Neuro Nerd
SRBI
Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2009.04.29 18:23:00 -
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Edited by: Neuro Nerd on 29/04/2009 18:24:41
Edited by: Neuro Nerd on 29/04/2009 18:23:51
I installed wine and eve without problem, configured wine like it's written in this topic.When i start eve it starts with little loading picture and then black screen leading to ubuntu login screen.
It's ubuntu 8.10 with ATI Radeon 9600pro 256mb ram.Newest graphic driver are installed.Does anyone have an idea what's wrong?
thx
Underground will live forever baby.We just like roaches.Never dying always living |
Agent Known
Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.04.29 21:53:00 -
[2378]
Paste this into a file, save it as .reg, then use wine regedit and import it:
 Quote:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\\Software\\Wine\\Direct3D]
"DirectDrawRenderer"="opengl"
"MaxFragmentUniforms"="1024"
"MaxVaryings"="52"
"MaxVertexUniforms"="1024"
"OffscreenRenderingMode"="fbo"
"PixelShaderMode"="enabled"
"VertexShaderMode"="hardware"
"VideoMemorySize"="256"
Replace information above as it applies to your card. I did this and it works perfectly now. Make sure Shadows and Bloom are disabled.
Obviously what I say isn't always what my alliance thinks. I hate to break it to you, but this is in fact my signature. |
flashfreaking
LFC
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.05.12 19:47:00 -
[2379]
Edited by: flashfreaking on 12/05/2009 19:47:49
Right now, when I'm installing Eve, I get the error that DirectX failed to install, and that I should reboot my system, and try to run the DirextX installer from CCP/Eve/bin.
This fails, and when I try to run Eve anyway, it doesn't get past the Splash screen. Any ideas? I'm sorry if this has been solved, but 75 pages is pretty massive.
Im using:
wine 1.0.1
Debian x64
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Ecksor
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Posted - 2009.06.28 04:04:00 -
[2380]
All is working well finally! |
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Hieronimus Rex
Minmatar
Infinitus Sapientia
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Posted - 2009.08.03 08:21:00 -
[2381]
I have wine 1.01 (the one that came with ubuntu). I have wine emulate a virtual desktop, I see the EVE splashscreen and then nothing.
I did the winetricks stuff here http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Install_EVE_on_linux_with_wine but I'm thinking I need a newer version of wine. Is there a way to do this without deleting everything in wine?
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Biakuzolm
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Posted - 2009.08.13 17:10:00 -
[2382]
Edited by: Biakuzolm on 13/08/2009 17:15:41
Hi there,
I followed the Evelopedia guide to run EVE through Wine, except I used Wine 1.1.27 (installation failed with the default Wine version in Linux Mint 7) and installed DX9 with winetricks. I used this installer. Wine is set as Windows XP and to emulate a virtual desktop. However, when I launch the game, it only displays the splashscreen of Apocrypha and then crashes, leaving the Wine virtual desktop empty. It has the same behaviour even without emulating a virtual desktop.
I'm a Linux beginner and I really don't know what to do now. :[
My graphic card is an ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] (it's an old graphic card but it did run EVE several days ago in XP, with graphic options set to low).
The first time I tried to install EVE with Wine following the Evelopedia guide, with an older Wine version and the Windows Classic Graphic Content client found here, launching the game led me to the logon menu. Then there was a prompt saying my version was not up to date, but the patching procedure always failed. I wanted to follow the patch procedure as described in the Evelopedia guide, but I could not find the appropriate patch (the older version to patch was 88517, and my version was older). That's wy I donwloaded the full and up-to-date installer mentionned above.
Any idea to solve my problem?
Thanks in advance for your answers, and sincerely sorry about (1) my long post, (2) the many links in it, and (3) my awful english.
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Dorger Jerbont
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Posted - 2009.08.15 06:50:00 -
[2383]
Originally by: Biakuzolm
Edited by: Biakuzolm on 13/08/2009 17:20:05
Hi there,
I followed the Evelopedia guide to run EVE through Wine, except I used Wine 1.1.27 (installation failed with the default Wine version in Linux Mint 7) and installed DX9 with winetricks. I used this installer. Wine is set as Windows XP and to emulate a virtual desktop. However, when I launch the game, it only displays the splashscreen of Apocrypha and then crashes, leaving the Wine virtual desktop empty. It has the same behaviour even without emulating a virtual desktop.
I'm a Linux beginner and I really don't know what to do now. :[
My graphic card is an ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] (it's an old graphic card but it did run EVE several days ago in XP, with graphic options set to low).
The first time I tried to install EVE with Wine following the Evelopedia guide, with an older Wine version and the Windows Classic Graphic Content client found here, launching the game led me to the logon menu. Then there was a prompt saying my version was not up to date, but the patching procedure always failed. I wanted to follow the patch procedure as described in the Evelopedia guide, but I could not find the appropriate patch (the older version to patch was 88517, and my version was older). That's why I donwloaded the full and up-to-date installer mentionned above.
Any idea to solve my problem?
Thanks in advance for your answers, and sincerely sorry about (1) my long post, (2) the many links in it, and (3) my awful english.
Open up a terminal and start Eve with a command, such as:
wine explorer /desktop=0,1680x1050 "C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\eve.exe"
Replace 1680x1050 and the program path with your settings. When Eve crashes, post the errors here along with your video driver version # and someone might be able to help.
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Solbright
Advanced Security And Asset Protection
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Posted - 2009.08.16 12:35:00 -
[2384]
Originally by: Biakuzolm
My graphic card is an ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] (it's an old graphic card but it did run EVE several days ago in XP, with graphic options set to low).
I suspect the Radeon OpenGL driver for Linux doesn't support the older chips. So, although your hardware can do the job, you prolly don't have a 3D driver installed that can use it.
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The Eve Client - A Love Story - The single biggest fix CCP ever did to Eve. Keep it up! |
Biakuzolm
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Posted - 2009.08.16 13:27:00 -
[2385]
Edited by: Biakuzolm on 16/08/2009 13:29:01
Originally by: Dorger Jerbont
Open up a terminal and start Eve with a command, such as:
wine explorer /desktop=0,1680x1050 "C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\eve.exe"
Replace 1680x1050 and the program path with your settings. When Eve crashes, post the errors here along with your video driver version # and someone might be able to help.
Thanks for your help. Here are some details on the errors I get and on my graphic driver version and hardware:
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glxgears -info
GL_RENDERER = Mesa DRI R300 20060815 AGP 4x x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL
GL_VERSION = 1.3 Mesa 7.4
GL_VENDOR = DRI R300 Project
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At the end of informations given by "glxgears -info", I have this error message:
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XIO: fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0.0"
after 8142 requests (41 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
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glxinfo | grep "direct rendering"
direct rendering: Yes
Quote:
lspci | grep "VGA"
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10]
Finally, when I launch EVE with the command line in bold, I get the following errors:
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wine explorer /desktop=EVE1,1280x960 "C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\eve.exe"
err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {9a5ea990-3034-4d6f-9128-01f3c61022bc} not registered
err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {9a5ea990-3034-4d6f-9128-01f3c61022bc} could be created for context 0x1
fixme:heap:HeapSetInformation 0xa40000 0 0x33fcac 4
fixme:d3d_caps:IWineD3DImpl_FillGLCaps Received unrecognized GL_VENDOR DRI R300 Project. Setting VENDOR_WINE.
fixme:gl_compat:add_gl_compat_wrappers GL implementation supports GL_ARB_fragment_program but not GL_EXT_fog_coord
fixme:gl_compat:add_gl_compat_wrappers The fog coord emulation will most likely fail
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x338f04,0x00000000), stub!
err:threadpool:iocp_poller NtRemoveIoCompletion failed: 0xc0000008
[...] Same line repeated many times.
err:threadpool:iocp_poller NtRemoveIoCompletion failed: 0xc0000008
err:threadpool:iocp_poller NtRemoveI
I already saved a dnsapi.dll in the Wine system32 folder, did not solve the problem. I don't know what to do now, I I'm a Linux beginner and I can't understand those "err:" and "fixme:". :'(
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Solbright
Advanced Security And Asset Protection
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Posted - 2009.08.16 13:33:00 -
[2386]
Originally by: Biakuzolm
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glxgears -info
GL_RENDERER = Mesa DRI R300 20060815 AGP 4x x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL
GL_VERSION = 1.3 Mesa 7.4
GL_VENDOR = DRI R300 Project
[...]
There you go. It's not AMDs driver. I'm not following progress but I'd guess you'll have to wait some time before the open source driver is up to Eve's requirements.
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The Eve Client - A Love Story - The single biggest fix CCP ever did to Eve. Keep it up! |
Biakuzolm
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Posted - 2009.08.16 13:41:00 -
[2387]
Edited by: Biakuzolm on 16/08/2009 13:49:44
Originally by: Solbright
Originally by: Biakuzolm
Quote:
glxgears -info
GL_RENDERER = Mesa DRI R300 20060815 AGP 4x x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL
GL_VERSION = 1.3 Mesa 7.4
GL_VENDOR = DRI R300 Project
[...]
There you go. It's not AMDs driver. I'm not following progress but I'd guess you'll have to wait some time before the open source driver is up to Eve's requirements.
If this is a graphic driver issue, shouldn't I see the EULA and login menu? The game crashes just after the splash screen, I guess there are no graphic performances required here.
Anyway, last time I used Linux (it was with Linux Mint 4 or 5, I think), there were already many problems with ATI drivers. Now I see that ATI launched a Catalyst version for Linux, but it sounds that my old ATI Mobility 9600 is not supported. To sum up, I was already confused in the past about ATI drivers under Linux, but now I really don't know what to install to make it work.
Really disappointing that EVE doesn't run in Linux whereas it does run under XP on the same computer, because this is the only one of my two computers I can switch to Linux (I have to use too many Windows applications in the other one, which I use for work). :/
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Solbright
Advanced Security And Asset Protection
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Posted - 2009.08.16 13:56:00 -
[2388]
Ya, well, for best 3D support atm you want to use the new GPUs. The old ones only have open source support.
That and Eve now requires more than it once did. As you have already pointed out you had to use low settings just to get Eve to load up in Windoze. It's feature set rather than 3D performance with Eve. Eve's performance problems are all CPU bound.
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The Eve Client - A Love Story - The single biggest fix CCP ever did to Eve. Keep it up! |
Biakuzolm
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Posted - 2009.08.16 22:49:00 -
[2389]
Edited by: Biakuzolm on 16/08/2009 22:49:18
Originally by: Solbright
Ya, well, for best 3D support atm you want to use the new GPUs. The old ones only have open source support.
That and Eve now requires more than it once did. As you have already pointed out you had to use low settings just to get Eve to load up in Windoze. It's feature set rather than 3D performance with Eve. Eve's performance problems are all CPU bound.
Actually EVE loaded up in Windows with the default graphic settings, almost like a charm. I just had to lower the settings to make it really playable, and it was.
Note that I tried to install proprietary drivers with EnvyNG on my Linux Mint installation, and it screwed up X. I tried to restore the xorg.conf by copying in the console mode the backup I made, but it still screws up. I also tried the xorg.conf generated when lauching Linux Mint from the live CD, but the problem's still there. I was really convinced to switch definitely to Linux this time, but no EVE after a week of tries and now my installation is probably unrecoverable. I'm thinking about giving up. :[
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Solbright
Advanced Security And Asset Protection
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Posted - 2009.08.17 11:56:00 -
[2390]
Unless someone else pipes up and says otherwise then, as I said, using a new graphics card is the only answer. Trying to use a Radeon 9800 (or derivative) is a lost cause for the moment.
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The Eve Client - A Love Story - The single biggest fix CCP ever did to Eve. Keep it up! |
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Biakuzolm
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Posted - 2009.08.17 22:38:00 -
[2391]
Edited by: Biakuzolm on 17/08/2009 22:38:56
Thanks for your answer. Here is a short message to confirm you were right. Just per curiosity (and because I did't want to finish with a defeat!), I installed Linux Mint on my desktop computer, with a dual boot with XP. The GPU is an ATI HD4850. At first boot, Linux Mint proposed to install proprietary drivers (Catalyst). One click and a reboot later, it was installed. Running EVE with the command line I gave a few messages above worked. Another issue appeared though: after this first launch, each time I launched the game and whatever the virtual desktop resolution set in the command line, the game started in a very small window, smaller than the default terminal window, just to give an idea. Of course, there was no way to resize it.
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Solbright
Advanced Security And Asset Protection
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Posted - 2009.08.18 01:09:00 -
[2392]
Edited by: Solbright on 18/08/2009 01:17:19
I don't use the virtual desktop mode. I instead block all desktop shortcuts and use windowed mode in Eve itself and have Eve's window configured borderless so it can be fullscreen. Then rely on the taskbar (shrinkable) and mouse for selecting things.
This doesn't completely solve the bug, I still have to make sure I shrink Eve's window before selecting any other app's window, but it is usable and always fits whatever screen I'm using.
EDIT: Oh, and at some point in the past I had to use the settings of force Eve's window to the back so I could still access the taskbar and also force the window position to 0,0 on the screen.
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The Eve Client - A Love Story - The single biggest fix CCP ever did to Eve. Keep it up! |
Biakuzolm
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Posted - 2009.08.18 08:40:00 -
[2393]
Edited by: Biakuzolm on 18/08/2009 08:42:41
I finally solved this problem by reinstalling. However, I hadn't the time to actually test EVE, I was already satisfied when I saw I could reach the character selection menu. But I tried to enter the game last night: it crashes on loading, at stage "Entering station".
Here are the errors:
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wine explorer /desktop=EVE1,800x600 "Z:\EVE Online\eve.exe"
err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {9a5ea990-3034-4d6f-9128-01f3c61022bc} not registered
err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {9a5ea990-3034-4d6f-9128-01f3c61022bc} could be created for context 0x1
fixme:heap:HeapSetInformation 0xa40000 0 0x33fcac 4
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x338f04,0x00000000), stub!
fixme:wtsapi:WTSRegisterSessionNotification Stub 0x30032 0x00000000
fixme:imm:ImmDisableTextFrameService Stub
fixme:imm:ImmReleaseContext (0x30032, 0x196388): stub
fixme:reg:GetNativeSystemInfo (0x33b778) using GetSystemInfo()
fixme:dsound:DllCanUnloadNow (void): stub
fixme:wave:DSD_CreateSecondaryBuffer (0xf428758,0x16f2b8d8,180b4,0,0xf6f4800,0xf76b38c,0xf6f47e0): stub
fixme:dsound:DllCanUnloadNow (void): stub
fixme:toolhelp:CreateToolhelp32Snapshot Unimplemented: heap list snapshot
fixme:toolhelp:Heap32ListFirst : stub
fixme:toolhelp:CreateToolhelp32Snapshot Unimplemented: heap list snapshot
fixme:toolhelp:Heap32ListFirst : stub
wine: Unhandled page fault on read access to 0x8e5183fc at address 0xb7b738a0 (thread 001c), starting debugger...
[Nothing happened then and Wine already prompted the crash popup, so I xkilled the window]
"Z:\EVE Online\eve.exe" is the EVE location on my dual boot. I also tested by installing the game under Wine but that's where I had the window-size bug. Did not try to play. Yeah it was stupid, but I don't think it would change something. My EVE installation in XP is pretty the same, and I did the prerequirement in Wine (e.g. edit the user.reg, install corefonts, etc.).
Quote:
fglrxinfo
display: :0.0 screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series
OpenGL version string: 2.1.8575
glxgears -info
44326 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8865.080 FPS
41856 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8371.196 FPS
45667 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9133.393 FPS
47060 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9407.124 FPS
45647 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9129.374 FPS
Note that when I run glxgears -info and use top in another terminal, I see the glxgears process at the top, with approx. 90% CPU. Hence, I'm not sure I actually have 3D hardware acceleration.
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Solbright
Advanced Security And Asset Protection
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Posted - 2009.08.18 13:35:00 -
[2394]
Edited by: Solbright on 18/08/2009 13:36:06
Originally by: Biakuzolm
... it crashes on loading, at stage "Entering station".
Dunno, try disable sound. There could still be some ATI driver specific issues, I'm using a GeForce 8800 so Eve has always worked for me.
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Note that when I run glxgears -info and use top in another terminal, I see the glxgears process at the top, with approx. 90% CPU. Hence, I'm not sure I actually have 3D hardware acceleration.
It's working alright, glxgears is pretty terrible performance in software mode. You are pulling 9000 fps after all.
All you're seeing there is your GPU is having no trouble keeping up with the job the CPU is feeding it. So the CPU maxes out on issuing the rendering commands to the GPU. Not really surprising given the simple job the GPU is doing.
Having said all that I decided to run the test myself and got about double your fps and the same 100% CPU. I then full-screened the rendering window and the fps dropped by about seven fold and the CPU system time went from 25% to 70%. Hmmm, something fishy there. Either fps shouldn't change due to CPU still being topped out or CPU should start to become idle waiting for the GPU.
I did a quick google of glxgears and pulled up this comment. Which says how glXSwapBuffers() is about all that is seriously happening. This is plain old blitting from the 3D buffer into the desktop framebuffer. The CPU should be idle while waiting for the the GPU to perform the blit.
Since that is not the case and it's the system time that is climbing with blit size there must be something wrong with GLX implementation. Either the CPU is performing the blit itself - bad! Or the CPU is busy-waiting on the GPU - also bad!
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The Eve Client - A Love Story - The single biggest fix CCP ever did to Eve. Keep it up! |
Solbright
Advanced Security And Asset Protection
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Posted - 2009.08.18 13:57:00 -
[2395]
BTW, the only thing I do extra when performing a clean install of Wine+Eve is copy the fonts. I don't make any adjustments to any config files.
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The Eve Client - A Love Story - The single biggest fix CCP ever did to Eve. Keep it up! |
Biakuzolm
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Posted - 2009.08.19 09:15:00 -
[2396]
Edited by: Biakuzolm on 19/08/2009 09:16:27
Well, giving up is for dummies! I insisted again...
Installing EVE through the trial version of Crossover Games did the job. I can enter EVE world, but that's not finished though! I can't see any ship nor station. When docked in a station, the environment is just black and I can only see the interface (which seems to be functional). On my laptop with a Mobility 9600, using either Wine or Crossover Games was unsuccessful.
Therefore, the next steps are (i) to solve those graphic glitches and (ii) to find what differs between my Crossover Games "drive_c" and my Wine "drive_c". I guess both should be pretty similar. I already copied "system32" and "fonts" directories of Crossover to my Wine installation, but it did not change anything. I'll go further and investigate this way later, using the user.reg of Crossover for example. If you have any idea, I take it.
I can't understand why I have so much issues trying to run EVE through Wine, with up-to-date Catalyst drivers, and a fresh Linux Mint install (i.e. the last release of Ubuntu), whereas so many people run it like a charm without doing anything special.
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Phoenix Torp
Caldari
Kingmakers
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Posted - 2009.08.19 14:56:00 -
[2397]
I can't read the EULA for accept it and init the session with the account.
I've got the TrueType fonts installed.
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Phoenix Torp
Caldari
Kingmakers
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Posted - 2009.08.19 20:07:00 -
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Solved by a sticky in this room.
# Download winetricks:
* wget http://www.kegel.com/wine/winetricks
# Install corefonts via winetricks:
* sh winetricks corefonts
It applied to install cabextract before the "sh winetricks corefonts". It's easy: "sudo apt-get install cabextract".
Now I can accept the EULA and enter the game. And have the same problem: Black screen with lights if you drag to "see" the ship in the station. With Wine 1.0.1 and Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty Jackalope.
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Skills |
Kaliba Mort
Minmatar
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.08.21 17:46:00 -
[2399]
Originally by: Phoenix Torp
And have the same problem: Black screen with lights if you drag to "see" the ship in the station. With Wine 1.0.1 and Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty Jackalope.
Upgrade to something better than Wine 1.0.1.
For example, in Ubuntu there is,
http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/wine1.2
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Debeus
Amarr
Princeps Corp
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.22 19:01:00 -
[2400]
Edited by: Debeus on 22/08/2009 19:06:00
Currently wine 1.1.27 or later is needed. You must have the Arial.ttf font in your ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts folder (winetricks corefonts). Inside game settings, use full screen and match the resolution to your virtual desktop. For true full screen, simply match the virtual desktop resolution with your actual desktop size.
Follow these instructions to have an up to date wine in Ubuntu: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
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