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okst666	Posted - 2009.02.11 18:07:00 - [2341] Originally by: Glengrant You have this in your wine user.reg? [Software\\Wine\\Direct3D] "DirectDrawRenderer"="opengl" "OffscreenRenderingMode"="fbo" "PixelShaderMode"="enabled" "VertexShaderMode"="hardware" "VideoMemorySize"="?" Replace ? with the size of your video memory. Hm..I had the settings but they seem to be not working, because there where only single backslashes in my file. however... First I tried without premium and I had awesmome 70 to 90 fps. Then I tried to put the premium back on, without shadows with low bloom and got 7fps. :( Now I set bloom to of and get 20 to 30...wich is ok for mining. I think in missions I will put the premium content off.. :( btw.. Usage of both CPUs is about 40 to 70% fluctuating.
Einherrjar	Posted - 2009.02.13 08:07:00 - [2342] I'm new to trying to get EVE running under wine, and I've looked through all of the tutorials I can find, none of them have really helped. Here is the problem, I can get eve (premium installer used running with classic graphics) to start, I can log on and move about at poor but not overly terrible frame rates. the issue is Eve seems to fail to load any textures, everything is displayed as a white object with the appropriate shaders applied. My megathron is a kind of shiny blue green thing. beyond that the menus and random buttons are covered in white blocks. Now I have followed the wine guide posted here, I've added the core fonts to the windows directory, installed the wine tricks thing (although I think that just installed fonts), I installed directx (but it didn't seem to do anything), and I've fiddled around in a number of ways. the one thing I can't seem to find that is in the tutorials, is the direct3d configuration settings in the Wine user.reg file. They simply are not there. Can someone tell me how to get the direct3d config settings into user.reg (simply adding them manually results in them disappearing when I start EVE) as none of the tutorials tell me how to do this. Also I'm currently using Wine version 1.0.0 as upgrading to the most recent causes eve to boot to a black screen and lock up my computer. I am using a Toshiba Satellite A200-AH5 laptop, running premium graphics is out of the question, but I know this thing can run EVE as I did so on my vista partition (Since deceased).
Sevarus James Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2009.02.13 08:38:00 - [2343] Edited by: Sevarus James on 13/02/2009 08:38:25 The biggest problem after googling that model is this: "The Toshiba T2450 initially comes with an Mobile Intel 945GM with 256MB, integrated." If you're running with the intel gfx solution, you are going to have problems. As 3-10-09 ENDS the classic gfx client for EVE, until the 3d drivers for the intel card improve, it will be highly problematic to get eve running under linux with that hardware. You had it running "fine" under vista as its 3d accelerated drivers for that hardware could handle it. (my guess is after 3-10, even vista on that box would have issues.) Updated Ubuntu Compiz-Linux Desktop+EVE Premium
Zaraa United Forces	Posted - 2009.02.14 01:42:00 - [2344] Originally by: Einherrjar I'm new to trying to get EVE running under wine, and I've looked through all of the tutorials I can find, none of them have really helped. Here is the problem, I can get eve (premium installer used running with classic graphics) to start, I can log on and move about at poor but not overly terrible frame rates. the issue is Eve seems to fail to load any textures, everything is displayed as a white object with the appropriate shaders applied. My megathron is a kind of shiny blue green thing. beyond that the menus and random buttons are covered in white blocks. Now I have followed the wine guide posted here, I've added the core fonts to the windows directory, installed the wine tricks thing (although I think that just installed fonts), I installed directx (but it didn't seem to do anything), and I've fiddled around in a number of ways. the one thing I can't seem to find that is in the tutorials, is the direct3d configuration settings in the Wine user.reg file. They simply are not there. Can someone tell me how to get the direct3d config settings into user.reg (simply adding them manually results in them disappearing when I start EVE) as none of the tutorials tell me how to do this. Also I'm currently using Wine version 1.0.0 as upgrading to the most recent causes eve to boot to a black screen and lock up my computer. I am using a Toshiba Satellite A200-AH5 laptop, running premium graphics is out of the question, but I know this thing can run EVE as I did so on my vista partition (Since deceased). I use to add the register lines with regedit. wine regedit Small tutorial: Browse to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Wine If there is no folder/key named Direct3D, add a new key by rightclick in the area on the right and add "key". Name the Key Direct3D Add each option with right-clicking and use add "String Value". Exemple: "OffscreenRenderingMode"="fbo" <- OffscreenRenderingMode is the name of the string and fbo is the value. (right-click rename/modify) running Gentoo\Linux
Sevarus James Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2009.02.14 02:11:00 - [2345] Wine 1.1.15 is out. source available via wine.org. Updated Ubuntu Compiz-Linux Desktop+EVE Premium
Hugh Ruka Exploratio et Industria Morispatia	Posted - 2009.02.23 21:42:00 - [2346] SUCCESS AT LAST So with wine 1.1.15 and fglrx 8.12, I managed to get EVE running under Linux. There are still minor issues, but so far very happy... --- SIG --- CSM: your support is needed !
Doublewhopper	Posted - 2009.02.26 01:42:00 - [2347] For Premium on ATI Catalyst 9.2, you need to recompile Wine 1.1.15 as described here: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17437 My ATI 3850 shows all models now and it works perfect.
Gavri'el	Posted - 2009.02.27 14:19:00 - [2348] Those of you using Ubuntu Linux, here's a way to add the Wine repository to your system software sources. Open a terminal/console window. For Intrepid Ibex, type: sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/intrepid.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list For Hardy heron, type: sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list Then run these commands: wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- \| sudo apt-key add - sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install wine And there you have it! -- Gavri'el
Sevarus James Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2009.02.27 22:58:00 - [2349] Wine 1.1.16 is now out. fyi. Updated Ubuntu Compiz-Linux Desktop+EVE Premium
Shill Darkdown	Posted - 2009.03.05 19:13:00 - [2350] Edited by: Shill Darkdown on 05/03/2009 19:13:58 Running two clients thru wine works like a champ. Performance is as good or better than the CCP linux client at this point. I'm at least seeing less system load. YMMV Howto: http://battleroom.blogspot.com/2009/02/eve-wine-linux-two-clients.html
Myrjin	Posted - 2009.03.11 14:27:00 - [2351] Is it normal for load time to be so significantly longer? First time user of eve on linux, and it takes 3-4 minutes for the login screen to come up in wine - Considering i7/8800gts etc, it seems a tad strange - is this common?
Kithicus Gallente Exiles of Chaos	Posted - 2009.03.11 15:40:00 - [2352] Originally by: Myrjin Is it normal for load time to be so significantly longer? First time user of eve on linux, and it takes 3-4 minutes for the login screen to come up in wine - Considering i7/8800gts etc, it seems a tad strange - is this common? No, not that i know of. It takes less that a minute for me to login and select my character, AMD64/6800GS. And thats with both plain Wine and CrossOver, though plain Wine seems a tad slower...
Shill Darkdown	Posted - 2009.03.12 23:28:00 - [2353] When trying to get wine + eve to work on another workstation, I ran into a problem where models weren't being rendered at all. Basically I had invisible ships and stations etc. Turns out this is a bug in wine which is expressed on only some models of ATI and NVIDIA chipsets. It's discussed in depth here: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17437 I took a chance and installed wine 1.1.16 and applied the patch attached near the end of the thread. Specifically this post: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17437#c26 Which references this patch: http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=19861 Downloaded the wine-1.1.16 source code unbzipped: tar jxvf wine-1.1.16.tar.bz2 applied the patch: patch -p0 < atiglsl.patch Built dependencies for wine: sudo apt-get build-dep wine Configured and built the source: cd wine-1.1.16; make depend && make (this job takes a long time. Consider this make -j 8 depend && make -j 8 Installed: sudo make install And wine ran like a champ. I am still getting dips in my frame rate on network updates, swiveling my view in space, pretty much anything except flying straight or sitting still in station. Not sure what that's about yet, but ya if you're getting the invisi-ship and invisi-station prob, there's a way out. Many thanks to hpestilence for the patch
Xeiyu Crimson Minmatar El Bastardos Freedom of Elbas	Posted - 2009.03.13 01:33:00 - [2354] The patch was actually made by KeithG, however I'm not 100% which ATI cards need the uniforms and varying changes (none of the nvidia cards should need them). The 1024, 1024, 52 is based off the latest released cards by AMD (the hd4800 series) so if the patch isn't working trying lowering the varying value by a multiple of 4 (48, 44, 40, so on). It could be possible that the hd2000 series of cards might support only 512 uniforms too or maybe even some hd3000 cards. Until AMD releases fixed drivers it's impossible to tell, also when I tried using 2048 uniforms for my card (hd4850) wine just crashed so that's a good indicator if your card doesn't support 1024 uniforms. I've tried the 9.4rc1 catalyst beta but the fix isn't in it yet (glxinfo -l shows opengl capabilities), also I told the AMD devs how to install eve on wine so hopefully they can figure out the problem. They had a bug that caused messageboxes to spawn repeatedly but from the pic it looked like the old empyrean age client, so I gave them a link to the Apocrypha client full install.
Mes Ren No Trademark	Posted - 2009.03.13 06:07:00 - [2355] Originally by: Shill Darkdown When trying to get wine + eve to work on another workstation, I ran into a problem where models weren't being rendered at all. Basically I had invisible ships and stations etc. Turns out this is a bug in wine which is expressed on only some models of ATI and NVIDIA chipsets. It's discussed in depth here: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17437 I took a chance and installed wine 1.1.16 and applied the patch attached near the end of the thread. Specifically this post: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17437#c26 Which references this patch: http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=19861 Downloaded the wine-1.1.16 source code unbzipped: tar jxvf wine-1.1.16.tar.bz2 applied the patch: patch -p0 < atiglsl.patch Built dependencies for wine: sudo apt-get build-dep wine Configured and built the source: cd wine-1.1.16; make depend && make (this job takes a long time. Consider this make -j 8 depend && make -j 8 Installed: sudo make install And wine ran like a champ. I am still getting dips in my frame rate on network updates, swiveling my view in space, pretty much anything except flying straight or sitting still in station. Not sure what that's about yet, but ya if you're getting the invisi-ship and invisi-station prob, there's a way out. Many thanks to hpestilence for the patch Try removing the "OffscreenRenderingMode"="fbo" to fix your frame rate dips.
Kagork	Posted - 2009.03.14 04:32:00 - [2356] Edited by: Kagork on 14/03/2009 04:32:44 Originally by: Mes Ren Originally by: Shill Darkdown When trying to get wine + eve to work on another workstation, I ran into a problem where models weren't being rendered at all. Basically I had invisible ships and stations etc. Turns out this is a bug in wine which is expressed on only some models of ATI and NVIDIA chipsets. It's discussed in depth here: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17437 I took a chance and installed wine 1.1.16 and applied the patch attached near the end of the thread. Specifically this post: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17437#c26 Which references this patch: http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=19861 Downloaded the wine-1.1.16 source code unbzipped: tar jxvf wine-1.1.16.tar.bz2 applied the patch: patch -p0 < atiglsl.patch Built dependencies for wine: sudo apt-get build-dep wine Configured and built the source: cd wine-1.1.16; make depend && make (this job takes a long time. Consider this make -j 8 depend && make -j 8 Installed: sudo make install And wine ran like a champ. I am still getting dips in my frame rate on network updates, swiveling my view in space, pretty much anything except flying straight or sitting still in station. Not sure what that's about yet, but ya if you're getting the invisi-ship and invisi-station prob, there's a way out. Many thanks to hpestilence for the patch Try removing the "OffscreenRenderingMode"="fbo" to fix your frame rate dips. I get an error everytime I try to patch. I get: "can't find file to patch at input line 4 Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option? The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- \|diff -Nur wine-1.1.16.orig/dlls/wined3d/baseshader.c wine-1.1.16/dlls/wined3d/baseshader.c \|--- wine-1.1.16.orig/dlls/wined3d/baseshader.c2009-03-08 13:01:52.000000000 -0400 \|+++ wine-1.1.16/dlls/wined3d/baseshader.c2009-03-08 13:21:04.000000000 -0400 -------------------------- " What I did was: -Download the 1.1.6 Source -Extracted it in home folder -open terminal and ran: Cd wine-1.1.16 -then tried to patch by running: patch -p0 < patch.patch Then I get that error. What I am doing wrong again?
Ravow Minmatar Space Industrial Defense	Posted - 2009.03.14 04:47:00 - [2357] replace -p0 for -p1
Rogerano Minmatar Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2009.03.14 04:58:00 - [2358] My experience: distro: mythbuntu 8.10 (ubuntu 8.10) wine: What ever version is in the universe repo (1.0.1) gfx: 9800gtx+ with nvidia hardware drivers 177 sound: ALC889 (ALC883) pulseaudio installed (wine configured to use alsa). note: window manager xcfe, compositing, no compiz stuff installed. Installed wine. Downloaded standard windows client. Ran the installer with wine. All content downloaded and installed. Installation failed at very end, however everything looked fine. Ran EVE, no text on EULA screen. Installed winetricks (make sure you have cabextract installed first). Installed corefonts via winetricks. Ran EVE. Everything working. Had to disable bloom and hdr as these caused gfx glitches. Otherwise seems fine. --- Not happy with something in EVE? An emo whine will doubtless help your cause.
Kagork	Posted - 2009.03.14 16:46:00 - [2359] Originally by: Ravow replace -p0 for -p1 That worked. Thanks. However, even when patching the wine 1.1.16 client,configuring it, making it and installing it. I still get this: http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9775/screenshotnzy.png Now what?
Melke Gallente Nomadic Wayfarer Syndicate	Posted - 2009.03.14 19:27:00 - [2360] wine 1.1.17 is now out The issue I am getting is all the models have no texture and are showing up black. The card I have installed is a shader 2.0 card (Radeon x850xt) which is still supported. Not sure what is causing the problem.
Rogerano Minmatar Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2009.03.15 07:35:00 - [2361] Originally by: Melke is a shader 2.0 card (Radeon x850xt) which is still supported. Not sure what is causing the problem. The correct way to phrase that statement is "...which is still supported under windows operating systems." You are almost certainly suffering from a driver related issue. You will need to google around. --- Not happy with something in EVE? An emo whine will doubtless help your cause.
MONK LUBIN	Posted - 2009.03.15 10:13:00 - [2362] I have just found a new issue with probes. Wine 1.1.17 patched for "no models" fix. ATI HD 3470 Upon showing the system map the first time, it is possible to drap probes, but once the probe has been moved/range-extended at least once, the arrows become unselectable and can no longer be dragged. Anyone else experienced this?
Mes Ren No Trademark	Posted - 2009.03.15 22:07:00 - [2363] Originally by: MONK LUBIN I have just found a new issue with probes. Wine 1.1.17 patched for "no models" fix. ATI HD 3470 Upon showing the system map the first time, it is possible to drap probes, but once the probe has been moved/range-extended at least once, the arrows become unselectable and can no longer be dragged. Anyone else experienced this? Make sure you use the registry key: "OffscreenRenderingMode"="fbo" ________________________ No Trademark -- Mes Ren, Mes Builder -- -- CEO --
qo'Qojhea Gallente AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2009.03.16 07:21:00 - [2364] Edited by: qo''Qojhea on 16/03/2009 07:22:11 Originally by: Shill Darkdown When trying to get wine + eve to work on another workstation, I ran into a problem where models weren't being rendered at all. Basically I had invisible ships and stations etc. Turns out this is a bug in wine which is expressed on only some models of ATI and NVIDIA chipsets. It's discussed in depth here: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17437 I took a chance and installed wine 1.1.16 and applied the patch attached near the end of the thread. Specifically this post: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17437#c26 Which references this patch: http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=19861 Downloaded the wine-1.1.16 source code unbzipped: tar jxvf wine-1.1.16.tar.bz2 applied the patch: patch -p0 < atiglsl.patch Built dependencies for wine: sudo apt-get build-dep wine Configured and built the source: cd wine-1.1.16; make depend && make (this job takes a long time. Consider this make -j 8 depend && make -j 8 Installed: sudo make install And wine ran like a champ. I am still getting dips in my frame rate on network updates, swiveling my view in space, pretty much anything except flying straight or sitting still in station. Not sure what that's about yet, but ya if you're getting the invisi-ship and invisi-station prob, there's a way out. Many thanks to hpestilence for the patch About compiling wine by hand: Look here for an how-to compile wine from source (including how to add patches) for Ubuntu, and how to create a .deb package directly. It's better to build debs, as you can keep trace of'em with the package manager of you choice. (Assuming you use Ubuntu, ofc.)
Lightmans Caldari WRATH OF ARES Damnation of Souls	Posted - 2009.03.22 20:13:00 - [2365] Originally by: Kagork Originally by: Ravow replace -p0 for -p1 That worked. Thanks. However, even when patching the wine 1.1.16 client,configuring it, making it and installing it. I still get this: http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9775/screenshotnzy.png Now what? go www.nvidia.com and get the latest linux nvidia driver or get you latest ati driver... download it and build it again,,, i know this error and this effectsm in the most cases its the graphic driver and not wine or the game good luck lightmans
Bardor	Posted - 2009.03.28 12:00:00 - [2366] Originally by: Oort hehehe, EVE in Java... Man, this way u'd never login with more than 100 people online, Java is the worst framework in questions of performance... (I program in Java for more than 3 years and p###d off already) And problem of multi-platform solution like EVE is not a language or framework, but graphic implimentation (DX or GL) and _obviously_ CCP went to DX because of its performance and spectacularity. You can tell whatever about WineX and so on, but miracles don't happen and _emulation_ will _always_ work worse than an original, so, as somebody said, for what to spend 1000$ more in hardware if u can spend 100$ in Windows and install it as second system just for games. (I use Linux for each-day needs and WinXP for games). Waiting for your "why I HAVE TO use windows for tralala" I'll answer "u don't have to. just don't play EVE and thats all." CCP won't waste thousands of $$, weeks of time and won't sacrify image quality of the game because of some minority of M$ haters. LOL have a midgrade pc and eve runs great under linux /w wine so dont say it does not work
Shill Darkdown	Posted - 2009.04.01 02:03:00 - [2367] try patching from outside the wine-1.1.16 directory.
Xerpex Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.03 17:05:00 - [2368] Edited by: Xerpex on 03/04/2009 17:05:23 Kinda weird how eve works better now that they don't support it anymore (wine1.18, seen no bugs).
roq deelim	Posted - 2009.04.05 15:20:00 - [2369] atm im running ubuntu 8.10 with 2.6.27-14-generic kernel, amd x2 4600+ cpu, nvidia 7800gt grapics card with 180.11 drivers and wine 1.1.18 (direct winehq repository -> no patches, with ms fonts installed). eve used to run without problems before apocrypha (and before the last apocrypha patch if i'm remembering correctly) . now i get the message that my grapics card is outdated/not supported by eve because missing sm2.0 support. but 7800gt is supporting shader model 2.0, so any ideas?
Merc Leon Caldari	Posted - 2009.04.05 19:02:00 - [2370] Update nvidia driver, latest is 180.44 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- The sentence below this one is true. The sentence above this one is false.

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