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Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 3803	Posted - 2013.12.14 20:53:00 - [31] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: Bel Tika wrote: now i know why my hairs falling out That'll be the Upsidaisium Too many u-turns in the sheets.
Xearal Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance 771	Posted - 2013.12.14 21:59:00 - [32] - Quote Lure of Flames 10.. I incinerate Asia
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 12815	Posted - 2013.12.14 22:00:00 - [33] - Quote whatevs it costs us nothing to wait 1 Kings 12:11
Montevius Williams The Scope Gallente Federation 655	Posted - 2013.12.14 22:12:00 - [34] - Quote Abisha Baboli wrote: oke, is World of darkness same joke as Duke Nukem forever?. after like 3 year's their is still not even a single bit of information available about this MMO. No comparison. People WANTED Duke Nukem Forever. The Devs we're just lazy with Duke Nukem and produced a ** game. The EVE PLAYERS** didn't want CCP working on WOD. That's the difference. "The American Government indoctrination system known as public education has been relentlessly churning out socialists for over 20 years". - TravisWB
Pohbis Neo T.E.C.H. 367	Posted - 2013.12.14 22:25:00 - [35] - Quote Montevius Williams wrote: Abisha Baboli wrote: oke, is World of darkness same joke as Duke Nukem forever?. after like 3 year's their is still not even a single bit of information available about this MMO. No comparison. People WANTED Duke Nukem Forever. The Devs we're just lazy with Duke Nukem and produced a ** game. The EVE PLAYERS** didn't want CCP working on WOD. That's the difference. I think more EVE players want WoD, than DUST however
Barrogh Habalu Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire 589	Posted - 2013.12.14 22:27:00 - [36] - Quote Montevius Williams wrote: The EVE PLAYERS didn't want CCP working on WOD.That's the difference. Because WoD is supposed to be aimed at EVE players... Ahem. Also, Nosferatu for life.
Alphea Abbra Grim Determination Nulli Secunda 460	Posted - 2013.12.14 22:31:00 - [37] - Quote Montevius Williams wrote: Abisha Baboli wrote: oke, is World of darkness same joke as Duke Nukem forever?. after like 3 year's their is still not even a single bit of information available about this MMO. No comparison. People WANTED Duke Nukem Forever. The Devs we're just lazy with Duke Nukem and produced a ** game. The EVE PLAYERS** didn't want CCP working on WOD. That's the difference. Umm... You're wrong. On both accounts: First, by implicitly stating that you speak on behalf of all EVE players, Second, by saying that EVE players don't want CCP to develop (c)WoDO. Some do want exactly that. A few actually joined EVE to see what the company that might create the Game to Literally End Them All (tm) can do in terms of development, storyline, metaplots and the player experience. I didn't hear about EVE until WW merged into CCP. And when I heard that CCP was developing (classic) World of Darkness online, I knew what I wanted to blame any/all failed tests, jobs, marriages and lives on. I have cousins that have existed less years than I have been hooked on Vampire the Masquerade. I don't even remember their names! So please, turn off your computer, get up from your chair, and sodomise your own face. WoD is gonna kill EVE in all the best ways.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 382	Posted - 2013.12.14 23:13:00 - [38] - Quote Pohbis wrote: I think more EVE players want WoD, than DUST however .... I suspect this is true. Though I'd be willing to bet more want Warhammer 40k Online. Because the idea of goons screaming WAAAAAAAAUUUUGH~! and TheMIttani doing it like a warboss has a certain appeal for those of us who serve the God Emperor. For Dorn! Malcanis wrote: whatevs it costs us nothing to wait Actually it costs about $15 a month. Unless your thread is limited to how 'awesum!' Eve Online is, ISD will lock the thread.-á You will find it is particularly common if CCP might have to make a public response to the thread subject, as opposed to bury it in the GM que for the forseeable future and then prohibit telling anyone what the GM said, if it's ever answered at all.
Veshta Yoshida PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 817	Posted - 2013.12.14 23:38:00 - [39] - Quote WiS was supposed to be partially used as a technology testing platform for whatever was to go into WoD. Eve players decided to rebel and cut the legs off WiS and by extension WoD .. ie. manpower was pulled, priorities shifted etc. Would be pretty awesome to have WoD, but I fear that CCP does not have the ability to do it anytime soon and if they license out the IP we'll likely end up with some horrible free-to-play gold-ammo bonanza ... so give CCP the years they need to sort Eve proper (they pretty much ignored it for far too long, hence the balance spam) so they can get some manpower freed up for extracurricular activities. Eve is almost there, tiericide is on track for an early completion date and discussions about what null would be fun to hunt and live in has been picking up ... In short: Patience.
James Amril-Kesh 4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation 6928	Posted - 2013.12.14 23:56:00 - [40] - Quote Davon Mandra'thin wrote: Scatim Helicon wrote: Oberine Noriepa wrote: Duke Nukem Forever was actually released, though. Also there were people actually looking forward to it. Because no one is looking forward to the next game release in the World of Darkness franchise. It's not like they have a massive cult following or anything. [/sarcasm] It would appear even they aren't aware this game is in development. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed
James Amril-Kesh 4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation 6928	Posted - 2013.12.14 23:59:00 - [41] - Quote I don't really get WoD or the pop culture obsession with vampires, but I think EVE players are awfully selfish (and not in a good way) to demand that CCP only develop EVE and EVE related games. CCP shouldn't listen to EVE players about WoD. If they want to develop another game, it's their money and they have the right to. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed
Teinyhr A Club for Reputable Gentlemen 314	Posted - 2013.12.15 00:30:00 - [42] - Quote Montevius Williams wrote: The EVE PLAYERS didn't want CCP working on WOD. HAHAHAHAHAHAhahahaaaaa.... ow my sides. As I recall people were borderiline exstatic back in 2006 when the White Wolf merger was announced, especially along with the clause that CCP will develop a WoD MMORPG. Don't know how many of those players are still around, but oh boy did we want it. I still want it. A lot. Will probably ditch EVE at least for a while in favour of WoD, which is possibly one of the reasons CCP's giving such a half assed effort in making the game. I want it way way more than Valkyrie, because I don't want Valkyrie at all. I'll consume 1,5 kilograms of rice porridge in one sitting if Valkyrie ever makes back it's development costs, the money that could've been used to not lay off 15 people in Atlanta.
Scatim Helicon GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2771	Posted - 2013.12.15 00:58:00 - [43] - Quote James Amril-Kesh wrote: Davon Mandra'thin wrote: Scatim Helicon wrote: Oberine Noriepa wrote: Duke Nukem Forever was actually released, though. Also there were people actually looking forward to it. Because no one is looking forward to the next game release in the World of Darkness franchise. It's not like they have a massive cult following or anything. [/sarcasm] It would appear even they aren't aware this game is in development. Perhaps because, based on the available evidence, it isn't. Post on the Eve-o forums that drinking bleach is bad for you on a Goonswarm Federation character, and 20 forum warriors will hospitalise themselves trying to prove you wrong.
Sturmwolke 467	Posted - 2013.12.15 04:33:00 - [44] - Quote With EVE in semi-maintenance mode, adding another large risky project onto their list should never be an option, following Incarnagate 2008. DUST turned out pretty mediocre, not far off the mark from EVE forum predictions that was made years back. Now it's just too expensive to just ditch without trying to recover some of the investments. Wonder if the DUST revenues atm is sufficient to sustain the dev team (on its payroll), infrastructure/assets and other expenses indefinitely - plus some extra to pay off the investment. If they're still bleeding, then it'll be almost like suicide to start on WoD. CCP's best strength is in making space themed games (with spaceships), they have little experience elsewhere. The cumulative experience of running a living, breathing, spaceship themed universe over the years is not easily replaced by new hires - despite what some might argue. Diversifying into WoD will be another make or break attempt, my thoughts personally. If they've dismissed many of the core Whitewolf personnel, it might even turn into a half-assed attempt. It takes time to build another castle. I remembered an article I read that talked about how Word of Tanks (WoT) came about from its CEO. "Do what you do best, especially if you love doing it". A fairly common sense phrase that applies to everything, not limited to gaming. I'm guessing EVE Valkyrie has the potential to turn into a World of Spaceships like game, but CCP, as usual, loves shinies in terms of tech. They'd get the game bogged down in technicalities and client issues than produce anything solid that .... you know, just works.
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet 5791	Posted - 2013.12.15 05:18:00 - [45] - Quote Sturmwolke wrote: With EVE in semi-maintenance mode, adding another large risky project onto their list should never be an option, following Incarnagate 2008. DUST turned out pretty mediocre, not far off the mark from EVE forum predictions that was made years back. Now it's just too expensive to just ditch without trying to recover some of the investments. Wonder if the DUST revenues atm is sufficient to sustain the dev team (on its payroll), infrastructure/assets and other expenses indefinitely - plus some extra to pay off the investment. If they're still bleeding, then it'll be almost like suicide to start on WoD. CCP's best strength is in making space themed games (with spaceships), they have little experience elsewhere. The cumulative experience of running a living, breathing, spaceship themed universe over the years is not easily replaced by new hires - despite what some might argue. Diversifying into WoD will be another make or break attempt, my thoughts personally. If they've dismissed many of the core Whitewolf personnel, it might even turn into a half-assed attempt. It takes time to build another castle. I remembered an article I read that talked about how Word of Tanks (WoT) came about from its CEO. "Do what you do best, especially if you love doing it". A fairly common sense phrase that applies to everything, not limited to gaming. I'm guessing EVE Valkyrie has the potential to turn into a World of Spaceships like game, but CCP, as usual, loves shinies in terms of tech. They'd get the game bogged down in technicalities and client issues than produce anything solid that .... you know, just works. That last bit sort of reminds me why I could never really see how CCP could possibly believe what they had, as in actually had to show for, with DUST could attract any kind of large crowd. CCPs focus was never to make the best game possible. Their main push and marketing talk was all about getting in the console market and to make a game, that was impressive and experimental on the technical side. Every time I read that this is what I was reminded of. Mr. Burns and his words about his wondrous snow man. CCP was committing itself to produce something technically impressive, that on non-technical level looked and felt like a generic and mediocre scifi shooter. Like your typical naive MMO developer, that makes a WoW clone with a twist and thinks they've got a guaranteed hit on their hands.
Tau Cabalander Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs 2356	Posted - 2013.12.15 07:51:00 - [46] - Quote Oberine Noriepa wrote: Duke Nukem Forever was actually released, though. Damn, I missed it. When was it announced?
Digital Messiah Digital Alchemist Abandon PlayGrounds 345	Posted - 2013.12.15 08:42:00 - [47] - Quote You must of missed out on blizzards announcements and launch dates. Oh did I regret pre-ordering starcraft 2 three years before it's launch. There is a lot of development that goes into major titles. Be patient. Something clever
Jarod Garamonde Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 866	Posted - 2013.12.15 09:15:00 - [48] - Quote Abisha Baboli wrote: oke, is World of darkness same joke as Duke Nukem forever?. after like 3 year's their is still not even a single bit of information available about this MMO. Yeah, except Duke Nukem Forever eventually did get released.... That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...
Karrl Tian Bourbon Bandits Anarchy. 281	Posted - 2013.12.15 11:13:00 - [49] - Quote Scatim Helicon wrote: Oberine Noriepa wrote: Duke Nukem Forever was actually released, though. Also there were people actually looking forward to it. I, for one, can't wait to have my vampire character named XxxxEdwardCullenxxxX.
Alphea Abbra Grim Determination Nulli Secunda 461	Posted - 2013.12.15 12:15:00 - [50] - Quote Karrl Tian wrote: I, for one, can't wait to have my vampire character named XxxxEdwardCullenxxxX. Maybe, just maybe, those "people" will be put off by actual fans killing them everywhere all the time. But on the other hand, they read those "books", so they must like suffering.
Meilandra Vanderganken Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2013.12.15 14:38:00 - [51] - Quote I'm guessing CCP doesn't have the funds and/or the trust of investors to get them to develop it at this time, and for the foreseeable future. They were doing 3 major projects at the same time: Dust, WoD and Incarna. I always said they were biting off more than they could chew and that it would threaten CCP's very existence. With the Incarna drama, that prediction proved true and they have been recovering ever since. I think it'll be at least a few years b4 CCP starts looking at major projects again.
Kuronaga Fatal Absolution 164	Posted - 2013.12.16 05:46:00 - [52] - Quote Jarod Garamonde wrote: Abisha Baboli wrote: oke, is World of darkness same joke as Duke Nukem forever?. after like 3 year's their is still not even a single bit of information available about this MMO. Yeah, except Duke Nukem Forever eventually did get released.... Pardon me sir, but you appear to have an Oreo jammed in your eye socket. May I have a lick?
Larry LowBlow Phoibe Enterprises 1	Posted - 2013.12.16 08:45:00 - [53] - Quote Abisha Baboli wrote: Ramona McCandless wrote: Vidua Arte Album wrote: Ramona McCandless wrote: Oberine Noriepa wrote: What happened to your hair... and your eyes? All I can say is... Booster Abuse is no joke, kids Winners don't do Blue Pill, Crash, Nuke, Bittamucin, Dried Frog Pills, Endemol or Dreamy Sleepy Nighty Snoozy Snooze That's....... :\| Ah c'mon, its a joke that's just a low blow man. As a LowBlow man I can confirm this.
Demica Diaz The Scope Gallente Federation 98	Posted - 2013.12.16 10:21:00 - [54] - Quote Not releasing any information does not always mean game development is dead or in big trouble. Quite many companies act same way until game is nearly done and PR campaign starts, then all the info and screenshots and whatnot is released. So I wouldnt put on my doomsayers cape just yet.
Meilandra Vanderganken Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2013.12.16 16:07:00 - [55] - Quote Demica Diaz wrote: Not releasing any information does not always mean game development is dead or in big trouble. Quite many companies act same way until game is nearly done and PR campaign starts, then all the info and screenshots and whatnot is released. So I wouldnt put on my doomsayers cape just yet. We are talking about CCP, they give out presentations on stuff they haven't even thought of yet.... Trust me, WoD as it was planned has been shelved.
Stitcher Alexylva Paradox 2718	Posted - 2013.12.16 16:11:00 - [56] - Quote Abisha Baboli wrote: oke, is World of darkness same joke as Duke Nukem forever?. after like 3 year's their is still not even a single bit of information available about this MMO. Well, aside from that wonderful demo footage I got to watch at Fanfest... DANG that thing was cool. You should have been there to see it. It was awesome. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
Ranger 1 Ranger Corp 4970	Posted - 2013.12.16 18:34:00 - [57] - Quote A few points: Most pop tween vampire fangirls will be horrified by World of Darkness, and will likely be primary targets for the bulk of the player base. I sincerely doubt CCP is going to make a big deal about the exact level of development WOD is at, too many people start making idiotic posts trying to tell CCP where they can spend their money whenever they do. However I don't think development is on hold either. It was rather firmly implemented into CCP's last video about their product lines. DUSTs last expansion was well received by the players, and I'm noticing YouTube is starting to see the trickle of fan made video's grow exponentially. CCP never claimed DUST would start off big, quite the contrary actually. Their game plan was to start off relatively small, and slowly build (expansion after expansion) just as EVE has. We'll see if this develops as predicted, but it's starting to look like it may actually follow that course. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base.
Sexy Cakes Have A Seat 585	Posted - 2013.12.16 18:49:00 - [58] - Quote Malcanis wrote: whatevs it costs us nothing to wait Time is the most valuable resource available to you. Mal'canis who elected you to CSM anyway? Not today spaghetti.
Barrogh Habalu Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire 592	Posted - 2013.12.17 04:52:00 - [59] - Quote Stitcher wrote: Well, aside from that wonderful demo footage I got to watch at Fanfest... DANG that thing was cool. You should have been there to see it. It was awesome. Just how much awesome footage you guys have seen at fanfests that never actually seen the light? Oh right, every bit of ot.
Ranger 1 Ranger Corp 4970	Posted - 2013.12.17 17:29:00 - [60] - Quote Sexy Cakes wrote: Malcanis wrote: whatevs it costs us nothing to wait Time is the most valuable resource available to you. Mal'canis who elected you to CSM anyway? Because while you wait for future developments in this area you are unable to fruitfully use that time in other ways.... To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base.

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