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Foulis
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Posted - 2006.03.07 05:55:00 -
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Alright people, and I say this with the utmost respect inteaded. Let this thread die. There is another one, 9 pages long, discussing this very topic, on the front page. Use it, not this one.
Please?
Do it for the kittens!
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Cake > Pie - Imaran
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Boobies
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Gonada
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Posted - 2006.03.07 05:57:00 -
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omg!!!
the sky is falling !!
hey noobs heres a hint, if you want to kill people that screw up their loadout to have more wcs, then that means you have to screw up your loadout and carry more jammers.
and omg!! again, evidentaltally your too mentally deficient to know that you only need half the amount of jammers to equal or better the wcs guys.
quick crying, suck it up,
if soemoen wants to live so bad that they purposly screw up their lodout, then if you want to kill em so bad, change yours.
-I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.-
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Commander Wingpop
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Posted - 2006.03.07 07:39:00 -
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Edited by: Commander Wingpop on 07/03/2006 07:42:27
Edited by: Commander Wingpop on 07/03/2006 07:40:07
lol Pestilence Aligher'ri seems to think the galaxy revolves around him i see ! but when you get a BS with 6 stabs ... and then you get people complaining about being ganked is there any wonder why they got ganked in the first place! you take away stabs and you take away big ass fleet ops ! because you dont need 10 plus tacklers just to hold someone ! I once has a BS pilot in a domi complain because we killed him with 10 tackers ! its not like any of the ships were damage dealers but it took that many just to hold him there in the first place! so either nerf stabs or people that get uber ganked stop whining !
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Commander Nikolas
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Posted - 2006.03.07 07:45:00 -
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I don't know how to PvP eh? Look either this char or Mandabar up on podbase.
Seriously... you realize that we have no choice but to go 10 vs 1 now... all you do is make the "blob" bigger. Before RMR we used to run around in 2 man pairs and have lots of fun fights (sometimes 2 vs 1 sometimes 2 vs 3... either way, OMG us with the disadvantage!).
This post is not directed at carebares jumping through low sec with their ships. This post is directed at PvPers who can fit WCS and decent DPS set-ups. They go kill a few mining barges then warp away. You rant about "oh no it is 10 vs 1", the truth is all of us would fight you 1 vs 1 if you didn't have 5x WCS on your ship!
Since RMR the stab problem has raged out of control. Last night we had a Deimos with 3x BS on top of it. +5 Scram... warped away. This is not unusual. What do people do with the extra CPU of T2 ships? What do people do with their ravens? Stab out... that is the all purpose soloution and with the new HP buffer they make it to warp alive (even if deep into structure)...
Also about there being 3 posts about this subject... maybe that should show how out of control it really is.
In direct comment to Shin Ra... really? Most battleships without NOS are vulnerable to AFs and Ceptors :P
For my final comment... CCP finds the time to introduce new bloodlines, throughly with a hammer "fix" the known issues... but won't address WCS, Blasters, Arty, NOS, Etc...
I personally love my NOS but agree it should be based on signature radius. WCS need to be dealt with just as harshly.
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Commander Nikolas
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Posted - 2006.03.07 07:50:00 -
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Originally by: Gonada
omg!!!
the sky is falling !!
hey noobs heres a hint, if you want to kill people that screw up their loadout to have more wcs, then that means you have to screw up your loadout and carry more jammers.
and omg!! again, evidentaltally your too mentally deficient to know that you only need half the amount of jammers to equal or better the wcs guys.
quick crying, suck it up,
if soemoen wants to live so bad that they purposly screw up their lodout, then if you want to kill em so bad, change yours.
People don't need to nerf their set-up to fit stabs. Before RMR almost every heavily stabbed out ship (esspecially battleships) had to pray they made it to warp before they went down. With the new HP buffer (and damage nerf) it is virtually impossible to kill them before they get to warp (even when they are getting ganked)
The same reason the 30 second agression timer is rarely enough to kill someone before they re-dock now.
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Tomsudy
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Posted - 2006.03.07 07:50:00 -
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put more warp scrams on
stop moaning on forums on something that has been part of the game for ages
people dont wanna sit there and let you kill them without a chance to escape. LIVE WITH IT!!
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Omatje
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Posted - 2006.03.07 07:55:00 -
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Yay, WCS thread# 102371023 \o/
Can i park my hauler here?
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LWMaverick
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Posted - 2006.03.07 07:57:00 -
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No we won't just "live" with it...
Read all the other threads about this, if you want the reasons.
I Just don't give a **** what you WCS users say.. WCS needs to be balanced! .. this dosnet mean that they will be removed from the game, but will be changed so its fair for everyone..
PvP without consequenses Ftl
The End
/Mav
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Alliaanna Dalaii
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Posted - 2006.03.07 08:27:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Nikolas
What do you guys work at CCP? I said low security PvP... interdictors are awesome for 0.0 PvP, however interdictors have no effect on low security PvP since the interdictor sphere can't be used there.
Yes, CCP also needs to fix this log off crap. Where do the ships go seriously? You log in space you should stay in space until you log back on...
Quite frankly you can stop your moaning now.
Your lame, and your and exploiter as is your corp. We had your entire corporation using the "local" bug when you tired to jump us in Aring.
Remember ? your retaliation over killing someone in your corps faction cruiser. so you rolled along and sat using what was clearly known as an exploit for about an hour. But you whine abouts stabs ???
And if you care to deny using said exploit I have it all on Fraps  Including killing your rather dumb tacklers and avoiding your little gank fleet.
Learn to PvP without cheating before you complain about stabs.
Kthxbye
Alliaanna
Official Follower of =-= Royal Hiigaran Navy =-= |
Naskaya
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Posted - 2006.03.07 08:59:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Nikolas
Seriously... the carebares are carrying less stabs then the pirates now! thanks CCP! Seriously when is this going to end?
Man, i'm a carebear, and i realise it's true :D
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.03.07 09:08:00 -
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Edited by: Testy Mctest on 07/03/2006 09:08:35
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The Eve Guild Wars Project! |
Alliaanna Dalaii
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Posted - 2006.03.07 09:16:00 -
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Originally by: Testy Mctest
Edited by: Testy Mctest on 07/03/2006 09:08:35
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Alliaanna
Official Follower of =-= Royal Hiigaran Navy =-= |
Dead Inside
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Posted - 2006.03.07 09:26:00 -
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Cannt believe you big, strong, dangerous pirates are such a bunch of cry babies. So wot if carebears fit WCS? oh yeah you dont get an easy life... well boo hoo for you, and you cannt snipe out of range of the sentry guns anymore?. Oh the game is sooo unfair now...I cannt kill the little frig from 140km anymore!!!!.
If your so upset move into 0.0 and meet some people who know how to fight back. Other players are not put in the galaxy for your enjoyment, believe it or nor some people play eve for the sense of community and to meet new people. Even Noobies can learn to get away from you.
Crying because your old Uber-killer BS no longer kills Cruisers in 1 volley.. get a life.
The rest of eve has been nerfed, so why should pirates have it all their own way. CCP arent gonna make the game easy for anyone. So just adapt and change like the rest of us.
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Exogene
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Posted - 2006.03.07 09:33:00 -
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Originally by: Foulis
Stop ******* making new topics about this!
I don't care if you agree or disagree, there are at this moment 3 topics about WCS ON TOP OF EACH OTHER.
Stupidity
Choose one of the other two, and post there!
Just shows this is a whinage thread again with absolutely no valid points. Example: Putting WCS on high-slots: don't be so selfish, Eve doesn't consist only of PVP. Think about miners, haulers etc. How will they cope? Don't you think mineral prices thus mod & ship prices will rise due to the increased risk and the longer period it takes to mine due to fitting WCS? Is this good for you? Do you want to pay more for the stuff you buy?
Please consider everyone here. Just because you PVP doesn't mean every other soul playing EVE does 
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darth solo
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Posted - 2006.03.07 09:33:00 -
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If im not mistaken im sure stabs used to be a medium slot item... so the devs are up for changing...
Id deffo say mayke them a high slot fitting.
d solo.
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Justice Bringer
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Posted - 2006.03.07 09:33:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Nikolas
Seriously every bloody pirate/PvPer in eve is carrying 3+ stabs now... I am seriously getting tired of this... since you released RMR it has made low security PvP virtually impossible.
Do any of the devs at CCP understand how frustrating this game is becoming? You needed to release tech 2 scrams ages ago! with how many WCS all wannabe PvPers you will need to release tech 3 scrams for it to change anything!
Seriously... the carebares are carrying less stabs then the pirates now! thanks CCP! Seriously when is this going to end?
Hahahahaha 
So what you're really saying is, other players have adapted their ship fittings to avoid people like you and all you're doing is bawling about it.
I say again: Hahahahahahhaha
Here's a tip for you: If they fit 3 x wcs, then why don't you fit 4 scramblers?
Oops, that cat's out of the bag and I didn't want to reveal a special fitting to combat those so called 'carebears'.
As I see it, they aren't the carebears, you are. All you want to do is engage in attacking someone without asking them so why should they oblige you?
That's NOT CCP's fault, nor should they try to resolve it for you.
If you can't adapt your style of play, THEN QUIT YOUR WHINING and QUIT EVE.
PS Can I have your stuff?
Muchos gracies
Justice 
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Gabriel Karade
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Posted - 2006.03.07 09:34:00 -
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Edited by: Gabriel Karade on 07/03/2006 09:35:01
\0/ WCS 
Oh and something I have noticed over the last few months (first noticed when RmR hit Sisi for testing), warp scramblers ever so occasionally fail for no apparent reason (to yells of "OMG! STABS in FFA??!!1111")
Could account for some of the tales of woe...
- Office Linebacker -
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DeadRow
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Posted - 2006.03.07 09:41:00 -
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Originally by: Testy Mctest
Edited by: Testy Mctest on 07/03/2006 09:08:35
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Originally by: Eris Discordia
TAKE COVER, HIDE YOUR SIGNATURE
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Alen Hanwe
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Posted - 2006.03.07 09:41:00 -
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My Geddon setup is pretty cool. Don't worry I'll get to the point soon enough.
Hi
7 Heavy Nos, 1 75mm gatling (For shooting corpses)
Med:
Mwd, scram, web
Low:
8 wcs
Drones to mop em up.
Try and catch me now suckas!
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Alliaanna Dalaii
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Posted - 2006.03.07 09:43:00 -
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To the guy above Eve is a PvP game 
Right just some points for some of you who are clearly clueless.
So we cant snipe at 150km anymore ? (please note its 150, not 140 as some fool suggested) O Rly ? So the optimum on my Bs isn't 190km ? hmmmm I must be mistaken
As to frigs being immune, allmost, as is a moving pod... allmost unhittable by even med guns. But theres allways stupid people
As to pirates crying ? Id say it was more the alliance players tbh, I pirate and frankly I couldn't care less about stabs. If they fly away I'l get mad. But who wouldn't... Next time bring more tacklers.
Alliaanna
Official Follower of =-= Royal Hiigaran Navy =-= |
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Alliaanna Dalaii
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Posted - 2006.03.07 09:44:00 -
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Originally by: Alen Hanwe
My Geddon setup is pretty cool. Don't worry I'll get to the point soon enough.
Hi
7 Heavy Nos, 1 75mm gatling (For shooting corpses)
Med:
Mwd, scram, web
Low:
8 wcs
Drones to mop em up.
Try and catch me now suckas!
1 Geddon @ 25km with Tachy II gank setup.
1 Af to bump you.
your dead.
Alliaanna
Official Follower of =-= Royal Hiigaran Navy =-= |
Alen Hanwe
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Posted - 2006.03.07 09:48:00 -
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Can't take a joke.... how sad. 
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Keven
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Posted - 2006.03.07 09:57:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra
High slot stabs mean that certain ships (scorps tempests and ravens especially) will ALWAYS have 2 stabs on. Travelling ships will be HARDER to catch:
Apoc, 8 stabs, MWD and full armor tank.
huh? Full armor Tank + 8 stabs? Are you drunk or something like that?
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darth solo
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Posted - 2006.03.07 10:02:00 -
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Originally by: Keven
Originally by: Shin Ra
High slot stabs mean that certain ships (scorps tempests and ravens especially) will ALWAYS have 2 stabs on. Travelling ships will be HARDER to catch:
Apoc, 8 stabs, MWD and full armor tank.
huh? Full armor Tank + 8 stabs? Are you drunk or something like that?
he means if its moved to high slots.
d solo.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2006.03.07 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra
High slot stabs mean that certain ships (scorps tempests and ravens especially) will ALWAYS have 2 stabs on. Travelling ships will be HARDER to catch:
Apoc, 8 stabs, MWD and full armor tank.
Well, that means no nosses tho.
Wouldn't that balance the negative effect out ? After all no nosses and no weapons means it becomes easier to tackle in general right ?
I doubt ravens and scorps would have two stabs fitted as standard. And even if, that beats the two they have now combined witht heir two heavy nos.
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Zolofine
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Posted - 2006.03.07 10:12:00 -
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Seeying as you took so much time and effort to post a topic and keep it going i will crace you with a little secret that i have learned!
You don't need a scrambler to keep somone from warping 
Wowow, no way? You mean a ship needs to align to warp and simply keeping them from aligning without making their warp drive disfunctional actually works? OMFG NO WAY! /sarcasm
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Joerd Toastius
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Posted - 2006.03.07 10:38:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Nikolas
Yes, CCP also needs to fix this log off crap. Where do the ships go seriously? You log in space you should stay in space until you log back on...
After a period of time to cool off systems (1 min if your reactor's still at "cruise", 15 mins if you were at "full power"), the ship simply shuts down all systems except life support. At this point it just looks like a piece of debris to all detection methods, and there are a lot of pieces of debris out there...
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Nadec Ascand
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Posted - 2006.03.07 10:44:00 -
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did not read the all tread but hope this tread is a joke...
Pvpers with 3+ stabs? u kidding i have still hard time to find a pvper with 1 stab...
carebears use stabs as they should do atm wcd and scramblers are just are they were 3 years ago and for 3 years nobody whines...
So if u gatecampers cant keep with it well may be just go play another game,
IN EVE THERE IS NO I WIN BUTTON.
evry single module have or should have a counter.
and thats why we got wcs!
OMG our war have been hijack -eris
What 0_o LMAO Nadec 4TW - Vanamonde
Here start a new WAR => X - Wrangler
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LWMaverick
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Posted - 2006.03.07 10:47:00 -
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Edited by: LWMaverick on 07/03/2006 10:51:57
Originally by: Testy Mctest
Edited by: Testy Mctest on 07/03/2006 09:08:35
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Intelligent huh?
Learn how to play?
So should i start telling you that the typhoon is alright, and blasters are fine, its just you that should "learn how to play" ...
"Spµnd dog lige hjµlmen engang"...
Try again mkay?
99% of people's reply againts balancing are not constructive at all.. Write something constructive, or zip it
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Haram Zada
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Posted - 2006.03.07 10:51:00 -
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Edited by: Haram Zada on 07/03/2006 10:52:07
Stabs as Highslots?
Oh yeah, that means I can fit a basic shield tank + MWD, but 8 WCS in highs, and all nanos in lows means that the apoc can run t2bpo's rather safely.
Or Armour Tank & and have 8 WCS. Great. YOur Gankfleet of 20+ will not be able to stop it :)
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