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An exploit is when someone takes advantage of a bypass in normal game mechanics, allowing him to take advantage of you without you having any means of preventing it whatsoever. When this occurs, we implore you to contact your friendly neighbourhood GM/Support Team as soon as possible, to allow them to investigate the incident, prevent it from happening to anyone else, and possibly reimburse you for your loss.

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Pray tell, what is an exploit then?
An exploit is when someone deliberately bypasses the normal game mechanics, by utilizing a bug, a weakness in the system or any other possible loophole in order to personally gain from it, and/or by intentionally use said means to take advantage of other players.

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(..)allowing him to take advantage of you without you having any means of preventing it whatsoever

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Well Vidar that's your opinion and your certainly entitled to it.

I would like to keep this a constructive argument as that was the original intention of this post contrary to what some might suggest.

I wasn't complaining, I was asking people to think critically! Perhaps that's too much for me to ask of you Vidar.

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Personally, I think the pirates knew full well what they were doing and that is why MASS suffered heavy losses while the pirates suffered none (or did RUS lose 1 Dominix?).

The tactic of camping the jump-in point is a very astute one and the pirates could be congratulated for thinking of it BUT consider this - individual drones can be recalled to the drone bay at any point.

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Well Vidar that's your opinion and your certainly entitled to it.

I would like to keep this a constructive argument as that was the original intention of this post contrary to what some might suggest.

I wasn't complaining, I was asking people to think critically! Perhaps that's too much for me to ask of you Vidar.

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You're asking for the furbearers to unite and nothing more. And as I replied in the other thread that you are dodging:

Don't engage in combat....EVER

That's the only way to avoid warp in lag and you know it.

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Well Vidar that's your opinion and your certainly entitled to it.

I would like to keep this a constructive argument as that was the original intention of this post contrary to what some might suggest.

I wasn't complaining, I was asking people to think critically! Perhaps that's too much for me to ask of you Vidar.

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You're asking for the furbearers to unite and nothing more. And as I replied in the other thread that you are dodging:

Don't engage in combat....EVER

That's the only way to avoid warp in lag and you know it.

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Jash. Are u absolutly stupid? did u read any of the posts? they are talking about people camping jump in points. u know when u jump a gate and appear ont he other side?? U call that engaging in combat?? jumping a gate and people are waiting for u on the otherside, and blow ur ship up while the client is still loading? Explain how u call that engaging in combat? lmao. u are obviuosly a teenager. and cannot comprehend what is bein said. lol. u make no sense. Dont engage in combat ever. since when did jumping a gate to get to the other side become "engaging in combat". lol kids. Jash= Worst. Flamer. Ever.

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Well Vidar that's your opinion and your certainly entitled to it.

I would like to keep this a constructive argument as that was the original intention of this post contrary to what some might suggest.

I wasn't complaining, I was asking people to think critically! Perhaps that's too much for me to ask of you Vidar.

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You're asking for the furbearers to unite and nothing more. And as I replied in the other thread that you are dodging:

Don't engage in combat....EVER

That's the only way to avoid warp in lag and you know it.

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Jash. Are u absolutly stupid? did u read any of the posts? they are talking about people camping jump in points. u know when u jump a gate and appear ont he other side?? U call that engaging in combat?? jumping a gate and people are waiting for u on the otherside, and blow ur ship up while the client is still loading? Explain how u call that engaging in combat? lmao. u are obviuosly a teenager. and cannot comprehend what is bein said. lol. u make no sense. Dont engage in combat ever. since when did jumping a gate to get to the other side become "engaging in combat". lol kids. Jash= Worst. Flamer. Ever.

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32, thank you.

Now describe how combat begins in Eve please. Ah yes, it begins with someone entering an area.

Jump in points, warping to a location, undocking. Different scenery, same mechanics. Only difference between warping and jumping is you cannot have modules active. But then that's the same as undocking.

So is that the next 'exploit'? Waiting for someone outside the station to undock will be exploiting as well? Just where do you think combat is supposed to take place? And how are people supposed to fight? Agree to warp to locations 500km apart and MWD to a point in the center?

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Well Vidar that's your opinion and your certainly entitled to it.

I would like to keep this a constructive argument as that was the original intention of this post contrary to what some might suggest.

I wasn't complaining, I was asking people to think critically! Perhaps that's too much for me to ask of you Vidar.

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You're asking for the furbearers to unite and nothing more. And as I replied in the other thread that you are dodging:

Don't engage in combat....EVER

That's the only way to avoid warp in lag and you know it.

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Jash. Are u absolutly stupid? did u read any of the posts? they are talking about people camping jump in points. u know when u jump a gate and appear ont he other side?? U call that engaging in combat?? jumping a gate and people are waiting for u on the otherside, and blow ur ship up while the client is still loading? Explain how u call that engaging in combat? lmao. u are obviuosly a teenager. and cannot comprehend what is bein said. lol. u make no sense. Dont engage in combat ever. since when did jumping a gate to get to the other side become "engaging in combat". lol kids. Jash= Worst. Flamer. Ever.

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32, thank you.

Now describe how combat begins in Eve please. Ah yes, it begins with someone entering an area.

Jump in points, warping to a location, undocking. Different scenery, same mechanics. Only difference between warping and jumping is you cannot have modules active. But then that's the same as undocking.

So is that the next 'exploit'? Waiting for someone outside the station to undock will be exploiting as well? Just where do you think combat is supposed to take place? And how are people supposed to fight? Agree to warp to locations 500km apart and MWD to a point in the center?

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Well obviously that's what some people want is senseless flaming.

If you think about it it's an excellent diversionary tactic which gets everyone off the original topic. And unfortunately that is exactly what is happening.

I challenge the more intelligent reader of this thread to ignore the flamers and focus on the original post that started this thread.

These flamers are not stupid, oh no, they are cunning and decieving and this is the weapon of their choice when they have no evidence to stand on or back them up.

Beware the flamer. He will use diversionary tactics like these to throw you off track and you will lose the original message of this post.

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