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Leshiy
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Posted - 2003.09.08 10:50:00 -
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Plz don't talk about "resp place" exploit.Its not a exploit.And plz dont scream about it.
3-4 weeks ago some guys from SA (Mass or Collective) destroy B-ship one of our guy(Burgui) at the resp place(in the DSS-EZ) and we don't scream everywhere about it.
P.S.Sorry for my poor english.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2003.09.08 11:03:00 -
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Ok!!. heres my usuall inteligent comment, i know it will probably get lost in all this macho bulll****, but i'll give it a go.
IMO. CCP have changed the rules on "the jump in point", to make it a little easier to chase or track people. Before the chances of jumping in at the same point as your prey when u chase them through systems, was very rare.
I just think they never looked at it too well.
We now have a problem, because, imo! too many prats play this game.
You are taking away the option given to players of, either fighting you or running. Not everyone whom jumps into the system wants to fight, they may never want to fight in eve, you arnt giving them the option, you are just killing them before they even load in. i cant check local to see if pirates are there before jumping into that system. And to kill ppl before they even get the chance to load is just shocking.
People like yourselves are not giving CCP one minute of peace, they change something and you guys are looking to exploit it as MUCH as you can.
My final words, dont camp jump in points.
Doing this is an exploit, even if CCP cant see it, plz tell me u can.
I am also getting bored of this, I am a better pvp than you talk, eve is a game for mature people, so leave this dross out of the forum plz. Anyway we all know that im the best PVP in the game. (humour).
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Leshiy
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Posted - 2003.09.08 11:37:00 -
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Another crying newby boy heh.
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Jake Solnich
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Posted - 2003.09.08 11:39:00 -
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Leshiy, it has nothing to do with crying and everything to do with exploiting a weakness in the game mechanics.
Do your yourself a favor before you make yourself look like a fool and read the whole thread before making short senseless remarks.
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2003.09.08 11:40:00 -
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Everytime fountain loses a fight, it is because we "exploited".
If it's not the "grid" exploit, sensor dampeners, it's drones, or it's sensor boosters, whatever we do, we cheated in their minds. It is ridiculous.
I'm sure all this crap is so fountain people who lost their battleships can cry foul to CCP and hope they get a new ship free of charge. They've done it before and they'll do again.
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Leshiy
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Posted - 2003.09.08 11:46:00 -
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Jim youre absolutly right.
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tekforce
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Posted - 2003.09.08 11:49:00 -
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i will continue to camp gates/warp ins with my drones (if i dont have any miners) AND WILL NOT STOP. WHAT THE F U GONNA DO
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Darion MacVale
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Posted - 2003.09.08 11:50:00 -
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Everytime fountain loses a fight, it is because we "exploited".
If it's not the "grid" exploit, sensor dampeners, it's drones, or it's sensor boosters, whatever we do, we cheated in their minds. It is ridiculous.
I'm sure all this crap is so fountain people who lost their battleships can cry foul to CCP and hope they get a new ship free of charge. They've done it before and they'll do again.
I'm concerned about this issue.
I am not a part of the Fountain Alliance.
I have never lost a ship in the Fountain region.
I have never lost a ship to Rus, Sinister, or M0o.
However, if I jump into a system, you can bet your sweet ass I want to be able to respond if someone opens fire on my ship.
Quite frankly, the jump in mechanics of the game as they are currently are broken. Knowing the exact jump-in point ensures victory for the combat group with the "home system advantage" not because of superior numbers or tactics, but because of the flaw in the client.
The short term fix is a simple one that has already been mentioned here. Randomize the jump in points on an x,y,z axis. It doesn't even really have to be a terribly wide region of space.
The long term solution is more difficult, but also needs to be addressed. However, with the recent comment by the dev team in regards to client fixes, I'm hopeful (within reason) that this issue is being looked into.
Until then, with people willing to exploit the existing game mechanics, watch where you step...
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2003.09.08 11:50:00 -
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drones are an exploit, cease immediately.
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Sylena
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Posted - 2003.09.08 11:50:00 -
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Edited by: Jash Illian on 08/09/2003 08:56:01
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jash u lost this argument . face it. ur ignorance got u no where. nice try though. and thx for admiting its an exploit. goodnight.
Btw - thats too bad u only have 1 battelship to risk. lol. Wanna save me some trouble and just give me ur location?
Sure. Currently in Frerstorn. Nice lowsec space too. Don't mind the Apoc and Arma that may be hanging around. They're just scenery.
And if you did somehow manage to take my bship... C'est La Vie. Just means waiting to manufacture a new one.
Oh btw, could you be any more obvious about how far you're willing to ignore stuff to be right? Admitted it was an exploit? Guess you missed the '' around it. Sorry, usually most people recognize that as being sarcasm. I forgot the Universal Sarcasm Alert:
Muppet 
LMAO, wow a arma and apoc. heh. not worried about that at all. think ur friends will be ****ed once we hunt u down? and anyone willing to help u. Trust me, when we go after people. it aint in 3-4 battleships. try 10-15. No we dont need that many. but vs exploiters. we may..
Either way, uve been pwned by many people on this topic. and why? cause u have to flame people. ur a sad case. and when u become an exploit victim. lol PM me, so i can laugh at u.
Also i dont think anyone that has posted on this topic has been a vicitm of it. but just the thought that this is the kinda crap thats gonna be goin on. and lamers like u support it is very sad. i feel sorry for the dev team, cause of ****s like u. nuff said. will see u soon. thats a promise.
***** exploiter
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Jake Solnich
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Posted - 2003.09.08 11:52:00 -
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Edited by: Jake Solnich on 08/09/2003 16:02:49
Edited by: Jake Solnich on 08/09/2003 11:58:00
Jim I undertand your frustration with the constant name calling and mud slinging that goes back and forth, but this effects all players.
I am not a member of any of the corps that were involved in this incident. Furthermore, I did not partake or recieve any action in this particular situation.
Therefore I have no bias and I make no accusations against any one group or persons.
I'm simply pointing to an exploit that can be used by anyone.
If this is not fixed it will make playing Eve very difficult for everyone.
Now that the cat is out of the bag so to speak, this exploit is sure to be abused by pirates and non-pirates alike and will undoubtly effect everyone in the Eve community.
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Sylena
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Posted - 2003.09.08 11:52:00 -
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i will continue to camp gates/warp ins with my drones (if i dont have any miners) AND WILL NOT STOP. WHAT THE F U GONNA DO
Maybe ccp will ban u for starters for openly admiting ur camping warp-in points. other then that thers not much we can do. u wanna hide like the girl u are, thats fine. We've podded u once already in obe. dont think itll be that hard to do it again. :P
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Jake Solnich
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Posted - 2003.09.08 11:53:00 -
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Edited by: Jake Solnich on 08/09/2003 11:53:29
*deleted double post*
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Daesdemona
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Posted - 2003.09.08 11:56:00 -
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Boh, I am in FA and IMHO the whole following in jump is a good tactic, actually, I think stargates should have an entry and exit gate, but that is just me.
Also, lagging is fine, the problem is the game, you ALL know it lags, either play it or don't.
Furthermore... You KNOW where the rats are at, there is a lot other stuff to do in EVE, STFU and play.
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Homer: "I think its obvious that I Don't"
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Darion MacVale
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Posted - 2003.09.08 11:58:00 -
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Boh, I am in FA and IMHO the whole following in jump is a good tactic, actually, I think stargates should have an entry and exit gate, but that is just me.
Also, lagging is fine, the problem is the game, you ALL know it lags, either play it or don't.
Furthermore... You KNOW where the rats are at, there is a lot other stuff to do in EVE, STFU and play.
So you're against making improvements to the game?
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2003.09.08 11:59:00 -
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Jim I undertand your frustration with the constant name calling and mud slinging that goes back and forth, but this effects all players.
I am not a member of any of the corps that were involved in this incident. Furthermore, I did not partake or recieve any action in this particular situation.
Therefore I have no bias and I make no accusations against any one group or persons.
I'm simply pointing to an exploit that can be e used by anyone.
If this is not fixed it will make playing Eve very difficult.
Now that the cat is out of the bag so to speak, this exploit is sure to be abused by pirates and non-pirates alike and will undoubtly effect everyone in the Eve community.
Just like the grid exploit, right? I mean, man that grid exploit was insane! Wait.. since that fight in fountain, has anyone complained about a grid exploit? Anyone? Fountain just found a new crutch, a new excuse as to why they repeatedly lose time and time again to us.
Couldn't be their poor leadership, their bad tactics, their horrible, horrible mistakes.. no, we just cheated, again, right?
Yup that's gotta be it.
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Jake Solnich
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Posted - 2003.09.08 12:01:00 -
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Daesdemona if you have nothing constructive to say then why say anything at all?
Oh wait, is it because your possibly flaming to divert attention away from this blatant exploit?
Noooo, nobody does that now do they?*sarcasm on*
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Cao Cao
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Posted - 2003.09.08 12:04:00 -
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Hey Jake,
/cry /cry /cry
dang ... wait..
/waaaaahhhhh
/cry /sniff /wipe tears /cry /cry /cry
Poor baby.
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Daesdemona
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Posted - 2003.09.08 12:06:00 -
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Daesdemona if you have nothing constructive to say then why say anything at all?
Oh wait, is it because your possibly flaming to divert attention away from this blatant exploit?
Noooo, nobody does that now do they?*sarcasm on*
Hey, we both know about it, we all have *****ed about it, adapt and play, its pointless to call other players exploiters, just adapt to the game mechanics and protest to the devs until they fix em.
ALSO: My post WAS constructive, I was trying to have you guys realize how many good posts we could be reading and commenting on if we got past all the **** we already discussed and now bore us into bleeding SHARDS of GLASS from our eyes!
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Bart: "Do you even have a job any more?"
Homer: "I think its obvious that I Don't"
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darth solo
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Posted - 2003.09.08 12:18:00 -
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Darion. that is my point. I get called a care bear and a moaner, and a noob. That is why players should be given an IQ test to see if they have the mentality to play this game.
Camping jump in points doesnt give players a choice. not all players want to fight in this game. , but you dont give them a choice, You know this, and use it to your advantage. EXPLOIT, CCP quote in the first post sums up all the things that you are doing.
why do you persist in getting CCP to have to chase around after you trying to fix unfair actions, when they should be spending their time trying to give us a more stable game.
I used to respect pirates, but u guys are just plain dumb, u never ever want to hear players points or views. You think u have some devine rite to always have the last word, well sorry, but you dont. That is left to the inteligent people of the world .
Oh yeah, i know im on your kos list and all that crap. so no, im gonna kill you posts plz.
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Jake Solnich
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Posted - 2003.09.08 12:23:00 -
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Edited by: Jake Solnich on 08/09/2003 12:42:00
As far as I know Daesdemona, this has not been discussed before until today.
Daesdemona, I challenge you to post a link to a previous post before today that describes this same exact situation. I predict you will find none.
And Cao Cao, you can flame all you want.
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Da'Tol
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Posted - 2003.09.08 12:28:00 -
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LOL, whining loosers.
They use drones, you use drones - get over it.
Even calling it a 'sploit is lame.
Drone as drone,If harvestors took longer to load for the client compared to other drones and he used them because of that it would be questionable. Now it doesn't matter what kind of drones he have - still the same lag.
As far as I can tell you are just *****ing because you got owned so hard.
sad, take it like a man.
I don't see anyone from Sinister screaming here because they lost a ship too...
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2003.09.08 12:37:00 -
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Edited by: Jim Raynor on 08/09/2003 12:37:46
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I used to respect pirates, but u guys are just plain dumb, u never ever want to hear players points or views. You think u have some devine rite to always have the last word, well sorry, but you dont. That is left to the inteligent people of the world.
Okay we're dumb? Let's have a little lesson on grammar shall we?
inteligent = intelligent
rite = right
devine = divine
u = idiot
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Technolisa
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Posted - 2003.09.08 12:39:00 -
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hahahaha
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Jake Solnich
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Posted - 2003.09.08 12:40:00 -
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Edited by: Jake Solnich on 08/09/2003 12:43:36
Da'Tol who are you talking to?
If it's me, then you don't know what your talking about and your making basely and false assumptions.
One,I have never used drones to knowningly lag out someone at a "Jump-In" point!
Two, I did not participate in any of the battles that were involved in this situation and nobody owned me because I wasn't even logged on! What a fool you are.
I'm just a concerned player that is bringing this to everyones attention so that we can work out a solution.
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DJvGalen
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Posted - 2003.09.08 13:03:00 -
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actually, I think stargates should have an entry and exit gate
What an excellent observation, it is defined in the background story that gates have exit gates, so where are they ?
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Imagine the surprise of the stargate controllers in the Villore system when a patched up construction ship limped through their stargate - the triumphant remains of a mission long since considered dead and lost.
Old man star
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Ryoko
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Posted - 2003.09.08 13:03:00 -
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This is the most pressing combat issue currently and no Eve response in 5 pages? Sigh. A "we're working on it" would even be welcome. In other words, we'll all training drones lvl 5 those of us that don't have it. So, either they have to enforce/fix(omg no not that) something or everyone and their pet goat will be doing this because it's such an advantage in combat.
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2003.09.08 13:05:00 -
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This is the most pressing combat issue currently and no Eve response in 5 pages? Sigh. A "we're working on it" would even be welcome. In other words, we'll all training drones lvl 5 those of us that don't have it. So, either they have to enforce/fix(omg no not that) something or everyone and their pet goat will be doing this because it's such an advantage in combat.
What about grid exploit?
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Jake Solnich
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Posted - 2003.09.08 13:09:00 -
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Grid Exploits mainly kill NPC's and not real players. Who gives a flip about NPC's?
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Macumba
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Posted - 2003.09.08 13:11:00 -
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The grid exploit was blown way out of proportion, but it was an easily reproduced bug. Whether it could of been used consistently in combat to give you any advantage was debatable. I think most of the problem was due to bad gate placement myself (ie. sticking one right on the border of the next grid).
The jump-in problem is as old as the hills though, and it does need looking at. Especially now that everyone knows about it.
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