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cball
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Posted - 2003.09.08 14:50:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Jake Solnich on 08/09/2003 13:47:31 Edited by: Jake Solnich on 08/09/2003 13:33:49 CBall, I understand your frustration but your not helping the situation at all by making personal attacks on other players by threatening to petition to have them banned.
That was not the original intention of this post. All I wanted to do was bring some attention to this possible exploit and have it fixed, not get people banned.
Please, if you have nothing constructive to say then please refrain from commenting. Thankyou.
Excuse me?? By submitting the petition (CCP recommended solution) the problem will be resolved. How constructive should I be, should I edit the code, enforce the rules myself???
What do you think the petitions are for???
It allows the DEV's and tech support to become aware of the real issues, without having to read through a hoard of flames from either side...  
BTW, it is not a threat, I actualy do it, as all players should when an exploit user/corp is found. (read the EULA when you have a chance)
now, reference your own reply and look in the mirror...
cball is so right. petetioning.. a personall attack? lmao. i find exploiting more of a personal attack then petioning against the exploiters. jesh cball try's to help make ur case and u flame him. shame on u jack.
I would like to say sorry on behalf of the exploiters and flamers who completely disregard anyones right to "exist".
P.S. cball is following the rules. unlike some... *cough* exploiters.
A big fuzzy armed carebear hug to you, I never claimed to be perfect, but at least I try to remain within the RULES. (thank you for the support) ...fear the evil monkey in your hanger...
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tekforce
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Posted - 2003.09.08 15:01:00 -
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lol you idiots petitioning about this makes me sick. This is the game its how the game is coded QUIT THEN
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.09.08 15:05:00 -
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Quote: The grid exploit was blown way out of proportion, but it was an easily reproduced bug. Whether it could of been used consistently in combat to give you any advantage was debatable. I think most of the problem was due to bad gate placement myself (ie. sticking one right on the border of the next grid).
The jump-in problem is as old as the hills though, and it does need looking at. Especially now that everyone knows about it.
1 Breacher with a Lowsec Pilot + 2 Moas = 2 Rifter Poddings...if we weren't good 
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |

dalman
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Posted - 2003.09.08 15:07:00 -
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Quote: lol you idiots petitioning about this makes me sick. This is the game its how the game is coded QUIT THEN
Yea, it will be much more fun with 30 MASS ships on the spawnpoint in PF-346 and 30 RUS/Sin/M0o ships on the spawn point in FD-MLJ. I'm looking forward to that already
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |

Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.09.08 15:07:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: BSOD on 08/09/2003 14:37:59 Edited by: BSOD on 08/09/2003 14:37:19
Quote: I hate thread dodgers. You have a thread open and it doesn't look to be swinging your way. So you open another thread and hope the people tearing your arguments a new one won't notice?
Some people playing this game are cruel and vicious. Most of those cruel and vicious people are not as stupid as you'd hope them to be. The question was never answered from the original thread:
Why would someone using a drone worth 100k isk to create lag at a battle when a 15k isk (or cheaper) would do the same job and be capable of fighting?
It's not like it's impossible to find Acolyte drone blueprints or lord knows the drones themselves (open a spawn container, any spawn container. 3 out of 5 there's a drone in it). Or could there be a simpler answer, one that you're willfully ignoring in your rush to accuse someone of cheating you? One that could be staring you right in the face but you turn away to avoid it?
Maybe they had the harvesters in their drone bay along with regular drones while out mining and just did 'Select all->Launch'?
On the other hand, why would someone use a mining drone in combat AT ALL?
There is NO legitimate reason for someone to have Harvester (or even Basic Mining) drones orbiting their ship at a spawn point with no asteroids.
If the intent was to create lag: It's an exploit.
If the intent was to make your ship hard to click, which someone from either Sinister or m0o admitted to in anothe thread: That's an exploit too, taking advantage of flaws in the game's UI.
Edit: Combat drones are understandable, as they have a legitimate reason for being present. If combat drones had been in use, I wouldn't be so convinced that this was intended as 100% pure exploit. But I maintain that mining drones have NO legitimate reason for being deployed in a combat situation where no asteroids are present. Convince me of a good legitimate reason for deploying mining drones in such a situation and I'll change my tune.
Select All->Launch
I've done it clearing rats from a field to mine in.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |

Jake Solnich
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Posted - 2003.09.08 15:18:00 -
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Edited by: Jake Solnich on 08/09/2003 15:29:18 Edited by: Jake Solnich on 08/09/2003 15:19:09
Quote: We can continue to petition to have m0o deleted for repeated exploit usage.
Cball, I stand corrected and I apologize. You did threatened to petition for a ban against exploiters and not against personal attacks on the forum. Please accept my apologies.
It's kinda hard to see who saying what when there is so much flaming going on.
I would rather die a free man than live as a slave. |

K3STR3L
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Posted - 2003.09.08 15:20:00 -
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Quote: lol you idiots petitioning about this makes me sick. This is the game its how the game is coded QUIT THEN
lol u noobs who cant fight and use exploits make me sick. why not just go play a game u can use cheats on? same thing.
lol tekforce, u are to dumb to flame. its quite obvious from all ur posts.
Btw flaws in the coding doesnt mean thats the way it was meant to be played.
Take some flaming lessons. ur flames are only matches. LOL.
Why dont u quit? u seem to be quite angry they are fixing ur exploits.
If ur mad that everytime u try to cheat it gets fixed. QUIT THEN. lol.
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Daesdemona
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Posted - 2003.09.08 15:23:00 -
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can you guys cut the quotes to a few lines please? it makes it a beotch to scroll through all the posts.... its easy, also avoids having a 7 page thread which could be 2 pages.
----------------------------------------------- Bart: "Do you even have a job any more?" Homer: "I think its obvious that I Don't" ----------------------------------------------- |

Ana Khouri
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Posted - 2003.09.08 15:25:00 -
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Could some of you guys learn how to quote, btw?
(Hint: 90% quote and 10% own text is *not* the right way)
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K3STR3L
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Posted - 2003.09.08 15:25:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Jake Solnich on 08/09/2003 15:19:09
Quote: We can continue to petition to have m0o deleted for repeated exploit usage.
Cball, I stand corrected and I apologize. You did threatened to petition for a band against exploiters and not against personal attacks on the forum. Please accept my apologies.
It's kinda hard to see who saying what when there is so much flaming going on.
When someone has the pride to admit they were wrong, it shows alot of character. it shows intelligence, and not IGNORANCE. It shows that people can admit there mistakes. Many people try and cover their mistakes up. which is quite frankly.. COWARDLY.
I for one am the same, and will always re-look any given situation, and can admit that i may be wrong, or am wrong.
CLAPS.
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Daesdemona
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Posted - 2003.09.08 15:27:00 -
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Quote: Could some of you guys learn how to quote, btw?
Hey!!!! no stealing my lines!
ps. That is how you edit a quote.
----------------------------------------------- Bart: "Do you even have a job any more?" Homer: "I think its obvious that I Don't" ----------------------------------------------- |

cball
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Posted - 2003.09.08 15:32:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Jake Solnich on 08/09/2003 15:29:18 Edited by: Jake Solnich on 08/09/2003 15:19:09
Quote: We can continue to petition to have m0o deleted for repeated exploit usage.
Cball, I stand corrected and I apologize. You did threatened to petition for a ban against exploiters and not against personal attacks on the forum. Please accept my apologies.
It's kinda hard to see who saying what when there is so much flaming going on.
Kudos to you sir. It does take a mature person to say "I was wrong". May your Eve days be full of fun and joy.  ...fear the evil monkey in your hanger...
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Daesdemona
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Posted - 2003.09.08 15:33:00 -
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especially since Cball is often wrong.
----------------------------------------------- Bart: "Do you even have a job any more?" Homer: "I think its obvious that I Don't" ----------------------------------------------- |

cball
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Posted - 2003.09.08 15:37:00 -
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Quote: lol you idiots petitioning about this makes me sick. This is the game its how the game is coded QUIT THEN
Exploiting a mistake of the coders, is an exploit, period. You know it, try to transfer the blame to the coders, thats sad, very sad.
As someone pointed out, personal attacks in the forums are strictly against the rules, but what can we expect of an exploit user. ...fear the evil monkey in your hanger...
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cball
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Posted - 2003.09.08 15:40:00 -
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Quote: especially since Cball is often wrong.
Ok, I am not perfect, never claimed to be, but you made an acusation, without saying what I am "wrong" about.
I could be wrong, but that looks like a troll attempt... ...fear the evil monkey in your hanger...
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Darion MacVale
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Posted - 2003.09.08 15:50:00 -
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Quote: To say that simply having enemies warp to you is an exploit, is ridiculous. According to you, combat itself, is an exploit. Sure, ok, whatever.
No, Jim. Having enemies warp to you is not an exploit, nor is anyone claiming it to be an exploit.
To sit upon a jump in point (different than a warp in point), counting on the jump lag (while an entirely new system loads) to cripple your target while merrily blowing large metal bits out of his ship, podding him before he can even react is questionable at best.
Honestly, where's the fun in that? Might as well go kick a tree for a while.
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Sylena
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Posted - 2003.09.08 15:51:00 -
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Edited by: Sylena on 08/09/2003 15:52:28
I could be wrong, but that looks like a troll attempt...
forget these damn flamers cball. we should just ignore them and only aknowledge the inteligent posts. they get to me to sometimes. but thats there plan.
Anyways, ive enjoyed reading ur views. ty
*edit* lol. damn i thought i had the qoute editing right. hehe.
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Daesdemona
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Posted - 2003.09.08 15:52:00 -
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Ok, I am not perfect, never claimed to be, but you made an acusation, without saying what I am "wrong" about.
I could be wrong, but that looks like a troll attempt...
Yes, admittedly, that was just SPAM. My sincerest apologies, I could not hold myself back, you handled it like a gent.
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Jake Solnich
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Posted - 2003.09.08 15:52:00 -
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Hey tekforce, does this sound familiar?
Quote: i dont want this thread locked or deleted, so no flames please. But i know things have to change just in changes like this characters are left kinda stuck in a role.......
It should because you said it! Too bad you don't treat others like you expect to be treated. But then again you are a MoO pirate and they aren't really known for keeping good morals are they?
Like some people using this exploit for example now that I come to think of it.
There's an old saying:
"Becareful what you say, it might come back to haunt you".
Seems this is exactly what has happened to my good friend tekforce here.
I would rather die a free man than live as a slave. |

Sylena
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Posted - 2003.09.08 15:54:00 -
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lol jake :) n1 sounds bout right. i dont think tek is older then 15 though.
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Jon Ogden
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Posted - 2003.09.08 18:02:00 -
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Purposely lagging players is not combat. It is taking advantage of a weakness in the game mechanics, hardware, and/or software. If combatants do not have the ability to defend themselves, this sort of activity needs to be eradicated. If it can't happen through programming, upgrading, etc., then the violatorsd should be banned.
This is getting ridiculous. If you try to defend this action, you're only afraid of being banned like you should be.
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Daesdemona
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Posted - 2003.09.08 18:10:00 -
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you need a haircut boy
----------------------------------------------- Bart: "Do you even have a job any more?" Homer: "I think its obvious that I Don't" ----------------------------------------------- |
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