I would be surprised if this caused a blip let alone the crash of the markets.

I would be surprised if this caused a blip let alone the crash of the markets.

if "everyone" or at least a vast majority gets them then it will have an effect, it's not going to be the end of the world nor have any very long lasting effects at all, but it's the principle of the thing; CCP shouldn't touch player created products.

Virtually all items can be player created, are you saying that CCP shouldn't give away anything at all?

Virtually all items can be player created, are you saying that CCP shouldn't give away anything at all?

I'm having a hard time mustering the care for this.

ccp should give out more fun stuff rather than junk you wouldn't even loot from a wreck.

snowballs are fun, fedo was great, neural remaps were awesome when ccp gave them away (or gave you the option for a carepackage of USEFUL stuff) etc.

previous year's gifts and giveaways have all been better than the yule lads junk.

still enough to post.

You know, there are still 2 days left. Did you expect to get 13 remaps and genolution implants this year?

All these junk items are meant as a joke, you can trash them if you dont like them.

Tomorrow we will most likely get a Genolution implant and on the 24th we will most likely get the fancy minmatar shuttle.

You know, there are still 2 days left. Did you expect to get 13 remaps and genolution implants this year?

All these junk items are meant as a joke, you can trash them if you dont like them.

Tomorrow we will most likely get a Genolution implant and on the 24th we will most likely get the fancy minmatar shuttle.

Of course I cared to post. Point was that I don't care to go on a crusade of outrage at CCP over giving out small-time T2 items for Christmas. If they were giving out something that had a greater profit margin I might.

no, i didn't. if you're dumb enough to think that's even remotely what I implied then I worry for you.

they might be meant as a joke but that's kinda the point, they're only a joke in the "this is a waste of ******* time" rather than "oh, that's cool". the only one that i haven't redeemed and thought "why did i bother/what was i expecting?" was fedo. even then, i'd rather have had 1 remap than any of the junk we've been given so far.

Why don't you just claim them all on the 24th? problem solved. You only have to claim the **** once and you will get something neat on top of it, it will probably not be a remap, but it will be something of value.

You whine like a little spoiled kid who thinks that every gift must be something super awesome and you fail to understand that these gifts are all parts of one gift, where the last 1 or 2 parts are the actual gifts.

I find it entertaining to read about the yule lads and then guess what they give. It is nice to learn about other traditions and for some reason there is something nostalgic over christmas calenders like this. Makes me think of my childhood.

And the fedo is funny. I wish I could have it crawling around in my CQ.

when you claim the gifts, is irrelevant.

i'm not whining, i'm just pointing out past gifts have been better. you seem to be failing to even understand the point i'm making.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the effort they put into the whole Yule Lads thing and I realise that anything CCP injects into the game is going to cause ripples one way or another but really, giving away T2 modules just is a "no go" kind of thing. T1 modules can also be npc drops and thus those are less of an issue but T2 items are all player produced and while they're "just" T2 data and relic analysers it does affect supply and demand for a player created product, effectively fcking over anyone producing or trading these (and no, I'm not one of them).

CCP shouldn't interfere with the market on specific items (be they Ishuk Scorpions, Magnates, T2 modules or whatever other silly thing they may come up with) like that, one would have thought they'd have learned that by now. Ideally they'd only give away stuff that's without any sort of use and doesn't interfere with any existing product but realistically that'll be quite difficult and costly to come up with something new every time, but they should at least realise what NOT to do.

Then dont claim them.

I agree with you that there are probably not many gifts that are as valuable as a remap. But how can you say that previous gifts have been better when you haven't recieved the gift yet? If my estimations are correct, then this year's gifts will be great. I would love to see the price on the new genolution drop and some people might see a good use of a superfast shuttle to get around.

If you aren't whining, then why do you make such a big deal out of the Yule Lads? If you want to compare this year's gift with the ones from previous years then use the actual gift for comparison.

I would be surprised if this caused a blip let alone the crash of the markets.

. T1 modules can also be npc drops

At this stage, I'm just relieved that CCP has gone from idiotic large scale interference in the sandbox to idiotic small scale interference in the sandbox.

I'm having a hard time mustering the care for this.

Why don't you just claim them all on the 24th? problem solved. You only have to claim the **** once and you will get something neat on top of it, it will probably not be a remap, but it will be something of value.

You whine like a little spoiled kid who thinks that every gift must be something super awesome and you fail to understand that these gifts are all parts of one gift, where the last 1 or 2 parts are the actual gifts.

I find it entertaining to read about the yule lads and then guess what they give. It is nice to learn about other traditions and for some reason there is something nostalgic over christmas calenders like this. Makes me think of my childhood.

And the fedo is funny. I wish I could have it crawling around in my CQ.

T1 modules can also be npc drops

You're obviously not in the business of producing Tech 2. This pretty much guts anyone who produces these items, making entire PI and POS chains obsolete due to the market suddenly flooding with goods.

It's CCP messing with the sandbox again. Now production has to worry if CCP will simply start spawning goods they produce. To make a PvP comparison, it's like that time they had an 'event' to help clear out all those alliance POS in Fountain with CCP spawned dreadnoughts and fleets.

I wonder which alliance they're helping this time?

You're obviously not in the business of producing Tech 2. This pretty much guts anyone who produces these items, making entire PI and POS chains obsolete due to the market suddenly flooding with goods.

It's CCP messing with the sandbox again. Now production has to worry if CCP will simply start spawning goods they produce. To make a PvP comparison, it's like that time they had an 'event' to help clear out all those alliance POS in Fountain with CCP spawned dreadnoughts and fleets.

I wonder which alliance they're helping this time?

I understand just fine what it means. However it's still pretty small potatoes. T2 data/relic analyzers and core/expanded probe launchers. Not worth getting very upset over. But it's worth getting CCP to recognize the issue, so I suppose you have a point.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the effort they put into the whole Yule Lads thing and I realise that anything CCP injects into the game is going to cause ripples one way or another but really, giving away T2 modules just is a "no go" kind of thing. T1 modules can also be npc drops and thus those are less of an issue but T2 items are all player produced and while they're "just" T2 data and relic analysers it does affect supply and demand for a player created product, effectively fcking over anyone producing or trading these (and no, I'm not one of them).

CCP shouldn't interfere with the market on specific items (be they Ishuk Scorpions, Magnates, T2 modules or whatever other silly thing they may come up with) like that, one would have thought they'd have learned that by now. Ideally they'd only give away stuff that's without any sort of use and doesn't interfere with any existing product but realistically that'll be quite difficult and costly to come up with something new every time, but they should at least realise what NOT to do.

Basically this. A load of T1/T2 junk is basically nothing. 30 Ishukone Scorpions are something totally different, OP.

So you don't think giving everyone in the game a free one will impact the people trying to sell them? Imagine being stuck with dozens of now worthless T2 mods you're trying to sell.

b) Loss through suicide ganks, gate camps, mission fubars, overheating damage etc really negates how much ONE item per person is going to effect the overall economy of said item.

c) Really doesnt make the entire stock of the T2 mod given away "worthless"

The gifts from the Yule Lads are great. Doesn't matter if they're top of the line or bottom of the barrel, the price is right and it's the thought that counts.

Each year I look forward to and love the fact that CCP does this type of thing. This is something they do that's above and beyond the call of duty as game designers.

The OP claims these free gifts are game breaking actions yet wants to have free Neural Remaps to change attributes in order to train specific skills faster. That can also be considered as game breaking actions and I personally don't see any difference between the two.

Bottom line - if people can't say anything nice about CCP's generosity at this time of year, then they shouldn't say anything at all.


DMC

Prices on them dropped below material values.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the effort they put into the whole Yule Lads thing and I realise that anything CCP injects into the game is going to cause ripples one way or another but really, giving away T2 modules just is a "no go" kind of thing.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the effort they put into the whole Yule Lads thing and I realise that anything CCP injects into the game is going to cause ripples one way or another but really, giving away T2 modules just is a "no go" kind of thing. T1 modules can also be npc drops and thus those are less of an issue but T2 items are all player produced and while they're "just" T2 data and relic analysers it does affect supply and demand for a player created product, effectively fcking over anyone producing or trading these (and no, I'm not one of them).

CCP shouldn't interfere with the market on specific items (be they Ishuk Scorpions, Magnates, T2 modules or whatever other silly thing they may come up with) like that, one would have thought they'd have learned that by now. Ideally they'd only give away stuff that's without any sort of use and doesn't interfere with any existing product but realistically that'll be quite difficult and costly to come up with something new every time, but they should at least realise what NOT to do.

As the only producer of Leopards in Eve, I am outraged by CCP seeding the markets with the wares I work my fingers to the bone to create.

My family Fedo farm has also recently taken a huge loss due to a massive influx of fedo-puppy-mill fedos on the market. These inferior Fedos have many health issues stemming from their forced breeding and inhumane conditions of their captivity.

For shame CCP. You are putting small business owners in a tight spot AND are supporting the abuse of Fedos.



For Shame!

Basically this. A load of T1/T2 junk is basically nothing. 30 Ishukone Scorpions are something totally different, OP.

You want to complain about how hard it is for T2 producers, why don't you ask CCP to nerf meta 4 drop rates.

if "everyone" or at least a vast majority gets them then it will have an effect, it's not going to be the end of the world nor have any very long lasting effects at all, but it's the principle of the thing; CCP shouldn't touch player created products.

ccp should give out more fun stuff rather than junk you wouldn't even loot from a wreck.

snowballs are fun, fedo was great, neural remaps were awesome when ccp gave them away (or gave you the option for a carepackage of USEFUL stuff) etc.

previous year's gifts and giveaways have all been better than the yule lads junk.

Because I sell my Meta 4's to buy what? T2 modules. Thus the circle of life is complete and Simba gets laid.

Well you can always find Hildar's home address and have thousands of people mail him lumps of coal.