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Fitz Chivalry
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Posted - 2006.03.13 22:20:00 -
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 Originally by: Mozana
I see a lot of ASCN responding to something about blobs/stabs/<insert whine here>
Did any x13 accuse you of blobbing or stabbing or anything?
I don't think so
let's keep this smackfree, shall we?
Of course thats why if you look above you will see that I say:
Originally by: Fitz Chivalry
Some of the posts in this thread are funny, though I am glad to see none of the smack is coming from ROA or X13, who both seem to be cool corps thus far.
See you ingame :)
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Mexicanfx
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Posted - 2006.03.14 01:23:00 -
[92]
x13 made baby gobbins cry
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F stenzie
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Posted - 2006.03.14 07:45:00 -
[93]
Edited by: F stenzie on 14/03/2006 07:45:31
OMG
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FlumZ
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Posted - 2006.03.14 07:48:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Drilla
x13 have ex-Tyrants members - ofc. they are good :P
Both sides will have fun in this one I bet.
drilla <E
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Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2006.03.14 09:42:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Mexicanfx
x13 made baby gobbins cry
ahr my poor speedy vigil :¦(
- Gob
(my nubie attempt at a forum sig, bare with me plz :p) |
larietta
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Posted - 2006.03.14 10:34:00 -
[96]
hope every ones having fun
o/ hi mex
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Gurney Halleck
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Posted - 2006.03.14 11:11:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Aramark
who is this x13? anyone know? are they any good?
LOL....Who is x13....are they any good? You have GOT to be kidding me!!!
I suggest you make sure your clone is updated, you're about to find out!
Good Luck x13 !!!
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Der Pfaffe
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Posted - 2006.03.14 12:52:00 -
[98]
X13 are very good and I am sure both sides will have a lot of fun. However, I think it is ASCN that will find themselves at the pointy end of the stick. 
GL guys.
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Evelyn Exe
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Posted - 2006.03.14 13:33:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Der Pfaffe
X13 are very good and I am sure both sides will have a lot of fun. However, I think it is ASCN that will find themselves at the pointy end of the stick.
Of course we will lose more than X13 - if you war dec a 0.0 based corp or alliance and cant get more kills than you suffer losses then you are doing something very wrong.
You just have to look at the reality of the situation. In empire a 0.0 based alliance has basically two kinds of members:-
(i) solo players doing agent missions (and in NPC fitted HACs or BS)
(ii) solo players collecting ships or equipment
Both groups are very susceptible to ganks, which is what empire wars consist of 99% of the time.
The empire based war deccing corp will always be flying in a group, usually of at least 5 ships, all set up to get ganks with a couple of tacklers and a couple of damage dealers.
If you are in empire and need to get somewhere else then the chances of their being 5 or more of your alliance mates in the same system all wanting to travel to the saem destination are slim to nil, so either you dont go or you accept the risks.
Taking ASCN as an example, things are a little different in hotspots like torrinos and esa where there are likely to be more alliance people present at any one time but again because they are logging in at differnt times and not part of the same corp its much harder to act in a co-ordinated manner against a single corp. If the alliance gets together in a group to attack the pvp corp then (aside from the claims of OMG u blob!!!11111!!) the pvp corp or mercs simply use out of corp spies to see it coming and just dock or move away.
This is not a flame to anyone group, just a quick pointer that the single corp attacking a large alliance should always get plenty more kills than it takes. |
DeadDuck
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Posted - 2006.03.14 13:45:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Gurney Halleck
Originally by: Aramark
who is this x13? anyone know? are they any good?
LOL....Who is x13....are they any good? You have GOT to be kidding me!!!
I suggest you make sure your clone is updated, you're about to find out!
Good Luck x13 !!!
Trust me both corps know each other extremelly well ... during 2 or 3 weeks TWL and X13 fought a war with heavy casualties to both sides ... in the end X13 won ... the war ended and both corps still have a lot of respect for each other, I believe
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Praxxus Dentor
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Posted - 2006.03.14 14:27:00 -
[101]
Originally by: DeadDuck
Originally by: Gurney Halleck
Originally by: Aramark
who is this x13? anyone know? are they any good?
LOL....Who is x13....are they any good? You have GOT to be kidding me!!!
I suggest you make sure your clone is updated, you're about to find out!
Good Luck x13 !!!
Trust me both corps know each other extremelly well ... during 2 or 3 weeks TWL and X13 fought a war with heavy casualties to both sides ... in the end X13 won ... the war ended and both corps still have a lot of respect for each other, I believe
Good luck.
You'll need it against ASCN. They can lose 4:1 in BS and still beat your ass like a blind, cripple man with one arm tied behind his back.
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ecam's Hunter
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Posted - 2006.03.14 14:39:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Evelyn Exe
Originally by: Der Pfaffe
X13 are very good and I am sure both sides will have a lot of fun. However, I think it is ASCN that will find themselves at the pointy end of the stick.
Of course we will lose more than X13 - if you war dec a 0.0 based corp or alliance and cant get more kills than you suffer losses then you are doing something very wrong.
You just have to look at the reality of the situation. In empire a 0.0 based alliance has basically two kinds of members:-
(i) solo players doing agent missions (and in NPC fitted HACs or BS)
(ii) solo players collecting ships or equipment
Both groups are very susceptible to ganks, which is what empire wars consist of 99% of the time.
The empire based war deccing corp will always be flying in a group, usually of at least 5 ships, all set up to get ganks with a couple of tacklers and a couple of damage dealers.
If you are in empire and need to get somewhere else then the chances of their being 5 or more of your alliance mates in the same system all wanting to travel to the saem destination are slim to nil, so either you dont go or you accept the risks.
Taking ASCN as an example, things are a little different in hotspots like torrinos and esa where there are likely to be more alliance people present at any one time but again because they are logging in at differnt times and not part of the same corp its much harder to act in a co-ordinated manner against a single corp. If the alliance gets together in a group to attack the pvp corp then (aside from the claims of OMG u blob!!!11111!!) the pvp corp or mercs simply use out of corp spies to see it coming and just dock or move away.
This is not a flame to anyone group, just a quick pointer that the single corp attacking a large alliance should always get plenty more kills than it takes.
I like this post as its relivent and very true.
----> Insert something funny here <----
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Danari
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Posted - 2006.03.14 20:37:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Skoda Zek
Is not that we were overwhelmed by ASCN numbers during our empire war with you guys. But that towards the end. Specifically the last couple days, you guys were scarce. Even throught your travel pipe into TM.
It's no secret our goal is to make Empire redundant.
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Danari
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Posted - 2006.03.14 21:02:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Zimi Vlasic
(Yes, I'm trying to get you tards riled up so you #$^%@$%^@ fight!)
You guys don't even ring a bell to me other than a rarely-encountered target on our current campaign, even though I currently live near where you apparently live. Where are you guys? Near CRC/L-C maybe?
We've been outblobbed so often up north I barely notice it anymore really, and I can't recall anyone in our gangs or forums complaining about it, we just move on. I think our choices of engagements compare favorably to the fights (vs. gank & runs) brought to our space so those of you who respond to game mechanics with whining, energy wasted imo.
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Mozana
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Posted - 2006.03.14 21:29:00 -
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You'll need it against ASCN. They can lose 4:1 in BS and still beat your ass like a blind, cripple man with one arm tied behind his back.
Beat us? I dont think anyone expect x13 to get ASCN to surrender, on the other hand you shouldt count on ASCN bringin x13 down as well..
And even if we loose ships (which we off course will do), we will still just do what we have been contracted to. And not consider us self beaten ;)
And should this somehow end up with us loosing a lot of ships, we will not complain about that ether, knowing we prolly brought a lot of ships down with us, which will prolly satisfy someone else
This is a contract, not about long term surviving, nor kill-ratio.
We dont complain about blobs, we dont whine about loosing a battleship or two
And we might even loose a 1on1 from time to time (like the one tonigt, gj ASCN pilot ;)
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2006.03.14 22:00:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Mozana
Quote:
You'll need it against ASCN. They can lose 4:1 in BS and still beat your ass like a blind, cripple man with one arm tied behind his back.
Beat us? I dont think anyone expect x13 to get ASCN to surrender, on the other hand you shouldt count on ASCN bringin x13 down as well..
And even if we loose ships (which we off course will do), we will still just do what we have been contracted to. And not consider us self beaten ;)
And should this somehow end up with us loosing a lot of ships, we will not complain about that ether, knowing we prolly brought a lot of ships down with us, which will prolly satisfy someone else
This is a contract, not about long term surviving, nor kill-ratio.
We dont complain about blobs, we dont whine about loosing a battleship or two
And we might even loose a 1on1 from time to time (like the one tonigt, gj ASCN pilot ;)
ok x13 have an A+ in my book. Respect to ya \o\
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Originally by: Abdalion
Shoot him ingame if you don't like this person. If you do like him, go mine veldspar with him.
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Sir Kad
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Posted - 2006.03.14 22:20:00 -
[107]
diddo Grim... e-peen measuring 4tl...
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Praxxus Dentor
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Posted - 2006.03.15 14:43:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Mozana
Beat us? I dont think anyone expect x13 to get ASCN to surrender, on the other hand you shouldt count on ASCN bringin x13 down as well..
LOL! If you weren't declaring against ASCN, your group wouldn't even be significant to them. ASCN has never cared about controling anything but Feythabolis and Impass. Querrious was an unfortunate result of the instability created by G forces. And if you're looking for them in empire, best of luck bro.
But don't take my word for it. Go down and see for yourself. I'm sure the members of EDF and DDC will give you a nice warm welcome.
Originally by: Mozana
And even if we loose ships (which we off course will do), we will still just do what we have been contracted to. And not consider us self beaten ;)
You won't even come close to inflicting any pain on that alliance. You're a pin***** at best. G/Iron is probably the largest threat they've faced, and despite trying very, very, hard in a bitterly contested series of battles, G/Iron was unable to dislodge the hobbits and gain control of the stations. No stations, no POS's, no system control, no stirring the hobbits.
Originally by: Mozana
And should this somehow end up with us loosing a lot of ships, we will not complain about that ether, knowing we prolly brought a lot of ships down with us, which will prolly satisfy someone else
This is a contract, not about long term surviving, nor kill-ratio.
"Somehow" lose a lot of ships? I'd say expect it. If this contract isn't about killing more of them than you, are you just saying you're getting paid to go down to Impass and die?
Originally by: Mozana
We dont complain about blobs, we dont whine about loosing a battleship or two
You've also never fought ASCN.
Originally by: Mozana
And we might even loose a 1on1 from time to time (like the one tonigt, gj ASCN pilot ;)
If you think losing ships 1 on 1 with ASCN is going to impact their alliance in any way, shape or form, you have a lot to learn about ASCN. It's not a victory if you inflict 5:1 losses on them. They probably have a bigger industrial arm in the game than anyone, and certainly have no issues in outproducing their losses quite easily.
But, like I said, feel free to go and learn for yourself.
Armchair strategies 4tl!
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FlumZ
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Posted - 2006.03.15 14:54:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Mozana
We dont complain about blobs, we dont whine about loosing a battleship or two
You've also never fought ASCN.
Quote:
we never fought ascn?,
its second time war with u =)
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Mozana
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Posted - 2006.03.15 15:35:00 -
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Quote:
If you think losing ships 1 on 1 with ASCN is going to impact their alliance in any way, shape or form, you have a lot to learn about ASCN. It's not a victory if you inflict 5:1 losses on them. They probably have a bigger industrial arm in the game than anyone, and certainly have no issues in outproducing their losses quite easily.
Did you in fact anyway read my statement? I actually dont think so.
Fly safe, and stop taking stuff so seriusly.
We are contracted, and will do what we are paid to do. The job will be done, and yes, we will win EVE ;-)
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Coahim Madden
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Posted - 2006.03.15 15:48:00 -
[111]
Edited by: Coahim Madden on 15/03/2006 15:49:15
Originally by: Praxxus Dentor
Armchair strategies 4tl!
Armchair alts 4tl!
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Der Pfaffe
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Posted - 2006.03.15 15:51:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Praxxus Dentor
Snipped a lot of total b******s
Not only are you a clueless alt, you are also a very dim clueless alt.
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"Kill one frighten ten thousand" - Sun Tsu |
Der Pfaffe
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Posted - 2006.03.15 16:00:00 -
[113]
Originally by: ecam's Hunter
Originally by: Evelyn Exe
Originally by: Der Pfaffe
X13 are very good and I am sure both sides will have a lot of fun. However, I think it is ASCN that will find themselves at the pointy end of the stick.
Of course we will lose more than X13 - if you war dec a 0.0 based corp or alliance and cant get more kills than you suffer losses then you are doing something very wrong.
You just have to look at the reality of the situation. In empire a 0.0 based alliance has basically two kinds of members:-
(i) solo players doing agent missions (and in NPC fitted HACs or BS)
(ii) solo players collecting ships or equipment
Both groups are very susceptible to ganks, which is what empire wars consist of 99% of the time.
The empire based war deccing corp will always be flying in a group, usually of at least 5 ships, all set up to get ganks with a couple of tacklers and a couple of damage dealers.
If you are in empire and need to get somewhere else then the chances of their being 5 or more of your alliance mates in the same system all wanting to travel to the saem destination are slim to nil, so either you dont go or you accept the risks.
Taking ASCN as an example, things are a little different in hotspots like torrinos and esa where there are likely to be more alliance people present at any one time but again because they are logging in at differnt times and not part of the same corp its much harder to act in a co-ordinated manner against a single corp. If the alliance gets together in a group to attack the pvp corp then (aside from the claims of OMG u blob!!!11111!!) the pvp corp or mercs simply use out of corp spies to see it coming and just dock or move away.
This is not a flame to anyone group, just a quick pointer that the single corp attacking a large alliance should always get plenty more kills than it takes.
I like this post as its relivent and very true.
I totally agree with you mate. It's for all the reasons you stated that I said what I did. Plus the fact I have flown with X13 and seen first hand how they operate.
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"Kill one frighten ten thousand" - Sun Tsu |
Ademaro Imre
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Posted - 2006.03.15 16:19:00 -
[114]
Edited by: Ademaro Imre on 15/03/2006 16:19:22
Originally by: Evelyn
Exe the pvp corp or mercs simply use out of corp spies to see it coming and just dock or move away.
This is not a flame to anyone group, just a quick pointer that the single corp attacking a large alliance should always get plenty more kills than it takes.
X13 should form an alliance for all of their 2nd account spies that sit at gates. I don't know how they keep up with them all.
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zac2000
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Posted - 2006.03.15 17:34:00 -
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Quote:
X13 should form an alliance for all of their 2nd account spies that sit at gates. I don't know how they keep up with them all.
I wish everyone would be like ASCN, which is not using alt's at all.
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Netto
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Posted - 2006.03.15 18:05:00 -
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We need a new forum area where alts can sit around and continually flame other alts. Alts flaming alts flaming alts flaming...
With that said, as I've said before, x13 has some well known PvPers, are well informed and have great coordination. Their employer finds their services valuable enough to spend money on. That's all the really relevant information anyone should need in this thread. So please, alts.. give it a rest.
Netto
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Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2006.03.15 18:19:00 -
[117]
wheres the alt-busters when u need them?
- Gob
(my nubie attempt at a forum sig, bare with me plz :p) |
Mang0o
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Posted - 2006.03.15 18:32:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Netto
We need a new forum area where alts can sit around and continually flame other alts. Alts flaming alts flaming alts flaming...
With that said, as I've said before, x13 has some well known PvPers, are well informed and have great coordination. Their employer finds their services valuable enough to spend money on. That's all the really relevant information anyone should need in this thread. So please, alts.. give it a rest.
Netto
ill spare your life... for 3hole days..
Nah but i hope this will be fun.. i moved all the way from stain(have my miners there MASS)
To get some nice pvp.. cya soon
I love you Mang0o, take a guess why -Eris |
Grimpak
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Posted - 2006.03.15 18:43:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
wheres the alt-busters when u need them?
so true
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Originally by: Abdalion
Shoot him ingame if you don't like this person. If you do like him, go mine veldspar with him.
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Netto
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Posted - 2006.03.15 21:31:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Mang0o
Originally by: Netto
We need a new forum area where alts can sit around and continually flame other alts. Alts flaming alts flaming alts flaming...
With that said, as I've said before, x13 has some well known PvPers, are well informed and have great coordination. Their employer finds their services valuable enough to spend money on. That's all the really relevant information anyone should need in this thread. So please, alts.. give it a rest.
Netto
ill spare your life... for 3hole days..
Nah but i hope this will be fun.. i moved all the way from stain(have my miners there MASS)
To get some nice pvp.. cya soon
Well, we got an agenda up there and I can tell you for the most part we won't be looking to engage x13, but I'm looking forward to the mix ups we do have.
Btw, <3 your sigs
Netto
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