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Mozana
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Posted - 2006.03.11 22:11:00 -
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Edited by: Mozana on 11/03/2006 22:13:55 x13 Press Release: Contract: ASCN
2006.03.11 20:34 x13 has declared war on Ascendant Frontier. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
Contract: x13 vs ASCN
Start: 2006.03.12 20:34
End: No ending date has yet been set.
Battleground: Empire/0.0
x13 has no further comment on this contract.
------------------------- Homepage: www.x13corp.com _________________
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Phonix
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Posted - 2006.03.11 22:13:00 -
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\o/
Fate Website & Killboard
CEO of Fate
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munchy
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Posted - 2006.03.11 22:13:00 -
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best banned ever  ---
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Josclyn Verreuil
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Posted - 2006.03.11 22:28:00 -
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First RoA now x13, fun stuff :)
Cya in space
~Clan Verreuil |

Evelyn Exe
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Posted - 2006.03.11 22:37:00 -
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Nice banner - Punisher 4tw (except for the hideous movies ofc (both of them))
We look forward to seeing you in space, assuming you make it as far out as Feythabolis (BMS may be bought from escrow for around 5m isk).  |

Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2006.03.11 22:40:00 -
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good luck to both sides. Have fun 
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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Durvaul
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Posted - 2006.03.11 23:00:00 -
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GL Guys, Have Fun
EMF 4TW |

Amataras
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Posted - 2006.03.11 23:18:00 -
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good luck... 
------- The Eve Diplomacy Table |

Grimpak
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Posted - 2006.03.11 23:39:00 -
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k ----------------
Originally by: Abdalion Shoot him ingame if you don't like this person. If you do like him, go mine veldspar with him.
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Danari
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Posted - 2006.03.11 23:44:00 -
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Cool.
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Rift Scorn
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Posted - 2006.03.11 23:49:00 -
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Originally by: Phonix \o/
Hush!! Back to the Veldspar for you! 
Your friendly clone activation expert, free of service to the eve community since '03! |

joefishy
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Posted - 2006.03.12 00:16:00 -
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good luck babes xxx may the gank be with u :)
SAS - The un-official isk sink of the game. |

Tanya Kovacs
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Posted - 2006.03.12 00:31:00 -
[13]
hf&gl 
-- All postings reflects just my personal opinion. |

KingAc
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Posted - 2006.03.12 00:42:00 -
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Kladdkaka??????????
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Brisi
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Posted - 2006.03.12 01:17:00 -
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Originally by: KingAc Kladdkaka??????????
Sagde hun ogss igsr...
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Kibito
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Posted - 2006.03.12 01:25:00 -
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Originally by: Brisi
Originally by: KingAc Kladdkaka??????????
Sagde hun ogss igsr...
Sikkert 
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Gungankllr
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Posted - 2006.03.12 01:48:00 -
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w0000t!!!111one
Go x-13!!!
Oh... wait... 
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Aramark
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Posted - 2006.03.12 02:06:00 -
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who is this x13? anyone know? are they any good?
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Survivor X
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Posted - 2006.03.12 02:11:00 -
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Edited by: Survivor X on 12/03/2006 02:11:27
Originally by: Aramark who is this x13? anyone know? are they any good?
Yeah. They're so good, that they already won EVE, but don't know it yet. Their skill is so far beyond the minds capability to understand, that it takes awhile for it to register. ---------------------------------------
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laotse
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Posted - 2006.03.12 02:24:00 -
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not anohter ieks ascn just gonne disband we are all doomd now
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Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2006.03.12 03:08:00 -
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omg stop wardecking us please you make baby gobbins cry :(
now my ooc hauler is starting to demand respect and is refusing to be fed with matari dog food anymore 
all ur fault tbh
- Gob
(my nubie attempt at a forum sig, bare with me plz :p) |

Coasterbrian
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Posted - 2006.03.12 04:04:00 -
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Yay, more stuff to shoot!  ----------
Originally by: riker to thebold first post w/ your main.
Soft and Crunchy 4tw! \o/ |

NAFnist
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Posted - 2006.03.12 04:16:00 -
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Gem nogle til mig !
GL to all 
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Deidranna
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Posted - 2006.03.12 09:50:00 -
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will be interesting to see the clash of 2 very different pvp styles x13 "yarr, lets get'em" vs ascn "if you cant gank it, run"
deidranna
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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2006.03.12 10:02:00 -
[25]
Noone expected that.
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Liet Traep
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Posted - 2006.03.12 10:32:00 -
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X13 ripping a new one into ASCN? *queues up for the fraps to come.*
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.03.12 10:33:00 -
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Originally by: Aramark who is this x13? anyone know? are they any good?
Ohhhhhh yesss they are!  --------------------------------
I am G and i am IRON - as we all are brothers in arms and times of need. |

ezzle
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Posted - 2006.03.12 11:11:00 -
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Plenty of ASCN in PF to kill of late, they even decided to park a Moros on the gate tonight.
If you want some more targets, ill be willing to leave a few alive for you there.
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2006.03.12 12:08:00 -
[29]
I FEEL LOVE! ----------------
Originally by: Abdalion Shoot him ingame if you don't like this person. If you do like him, go mine veldspar with him.
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Exile Devaltos
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Posted - 2006.03.12 12:18:00 -
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Originally by: Deidranna will be interesting to see the clash of 2 very different pvp styles x13 "yarr, lets get'em" vs ascn "if you cant gank it, run"
deidranna
Sorry, it comes with having nearly 3000 members Just because some run, dosn't mean we all run.
GL to x13, gonna be teh furn
Originally by: Wrangler Thats odd, I always drink after dealing with you people..  
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Gonada
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Posted - 2006.03.12 14:07:00 -
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lol let the games begin 
-I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.-
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Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2006.03.12 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Deidranna will be interesting to see the clash of 2 very different pvp styles x13 "yarr, lets get'em" vs ascn "if you cant gank it, run"
deidranna
then there is the third one "troll in a topic that doesnt concern me"
- Gob
(my nubie attempt at a forum sig, bare with me plz :p) |

Coasterbrian
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Posted - 2006.03.12 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Originally by: Deidranna will be interesting to see the clash of 2 very different pvp styles x13 "yarr, lets get'em" vs ascn "if you cant gank it, run"
deidranna
then there is the third one "troll in a topic that doesnt concern me"
Play nice children, or you'll have to go in separate cribs. ----------
Originally by: riker to thebold first post w/ your main.
Soft and Crunchy 4tw! \o/ |

k starwind
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Posted - 2006.03.12 18:06:00 -
[34]
to war we will go.
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slip66
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Posted - 2006.03.12 19:18:00 -
[35]
nice banner. I hope everyone has fun.
Originally by: StOrM ViPeR Theres a skill called surgical strike in game I've learned that it actually stands for Band of Brothers |

Devoras2
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Posted - 2006.03.12 20:24:00 -
[36]
Yeyy! More to shoot! 
Hyllekjeks, d°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°!
And they call me slow.... hey! Thats an insult! |

Skoda Zek
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Posted - 2006.03.12 22:46:00 -
[37]
Hope both parties have a good time.
I know I did =)
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Stealthbite
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Posted - 2006.03.13 02:34:00 -
[38]
Were all in Torr/EC and all up into G space please come get us. Looking forward to some good fights. Please resize your signature graphic to be smaller than 24,000 bytes in filesize - Jacques   |

captain Donkey
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Posted - 2006.03.13 02:53:00 -
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what is Ascendant Frontier doing so far north in the first place?
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Spathi
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Posted - 2006.03.13 02:57:00 -
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Edited by: Spathi on 13/03/2006 02:58:16 x13, who? Good luck with the war though.
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Erzengal
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Posted - 2006.03.13 03:18:00 -
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Originally by: captain Donkey what is Ascendant Frontier doing so far north in the first place?
The secret ingredient to our even more secret cookie recipe sadly can only be found up north. We have been running low, so we need to stockpile before Cyvok notices we keep robbing his cookie jar. 
There is no secret, everything is well *waves hand in a jedi way* - Wrangler |

Berneh
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Posted - 2006.03.13 03:19:00 -
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Originally by: captain Donkey what is Ascendant Frontier doing so far north in the first place?
we took the wrong turn in alberkurky
:( ______________________________________ Wakibaki > lady boys are better in bed than any english girl If you say so waki :) |

Netto
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Posted - 2006.03.13 04:21:00 -
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Originally by: Spathi Edited by: Spathi on 13/03/2006 02:58:16 x13, who? Good luck with the war though.
x13 has some pretty respected PVPers in their ranks. Should be fun.
Netto
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SaorAlba
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Posted - 2006.03.13 07:23:00 -
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Originally by: Erzengal
Originally by: captain Donkey what is Ascendant Frontier doing so far north in the first place?
The secret ingredient to our even more secret cookie recipe sadly can only be found up north. We have been running low, so we need to stockpile before Cyvok notices we keep robbing his cookie jar. 
The sad truth here is that we are far better informed then the averge ASCN grunt
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Devoras2
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Posted - 2006.03.13 07:28:00 -
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Originally by: Erzengal
Originally by: captain Donkey what is Ascendant Frontier doing so far north in the first place?
The secret ingredient to our even more secret cookie recipe sadly can only be found up north. We have been running low, so we need to stockpile before Cyvok notices we keep robbing his cookie jar. 
Oh noes! My master plan is revealed! 
/me adds xxx new targets for todays kill quota.
And they call me slow.... hey! Thats an insult! |

Grimpak
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Posted - 2006.03.13 09:15:00 -
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Edited by: Grimpak on 13/03/2006 09:15:44
Originally by: captain Donkey what is Ascendant Frontier doing so far north in the first place?
we spreading male love.
Originally by: SaorAlba
Originally by: Erzengal
Originally by: captain Donkey what is Ascendant Frontier doing so far north in the first place?
The secret ingredient to our even more secret cookie recipe sadly can only be found up north. We have been running low, so we need to stockpile before Cyvok notices we keep robbing his cookie jar. 
The sad truth here is that we are far better informed then the averge ASCN grunt
/me looks at the ASCN forum
wtf? we have a "grunt only" section? I DEMAND EQUALITY! ----------------
Originally by: Abdalion Shoot him ingame if you don't like this person. If you do like him, go mine veldspar with him.
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Hyllekjeks
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Posted - 2006.03.13 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: Devoras2 Yeyy! More to shoot! 
Hyllekjeks, d°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°!
Lets see about that. I would we calling you primary  ----------------------------------------------
If your not part of the solution, your part of x13 |

Dracolich
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Posted - 2006.03.13 12:55:00 -
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GL x13... Kladdkaka from here as well, since some of you are danes.... hsber ikke at hun ogss sagde det i gsr igen. _______________________________________
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.03.13 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: Xantina Well good luck X13 you'll need it - our war against ASCN just stopped and the last couple of days have been extremely boring as the guys just dried up on us. Last thing I knew another corp wardecced them as well - so expect many idle hours of looking for targets.
got there eventually 
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Xantina
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Posted - 2006.03.13 13:18:00 -
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Well good luck X13 you'll need it - our war against ASCN just stopped and the last couple of days have been extremely boring as the guys just dried up on us. Last thing I knew another corp wardecced them as well - so expect many idle hours of looking for targets.
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Xantina
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Posted - 2006.03.13 13:25:00 -
[51]
Linkage
Correction: +3
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Zimi Vlasic
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Posted - 2006.03.13 13:25:00 -
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x13 make sure you only have gangs of 5-6 ships because ASCN seems to refuse engagement when numbers are even, or when they're even up a couple ships.
If they outnumber you 2 to 1 then you might get a fight. Three to One is even better.
- Vlasic of TW Fame
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Rexy
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Posted - 2006.03.13 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: Xantina Well good luck X13 you'll need it - our war against ASCN just stopped and the last couple of days have been extremely boring as the guys just dried up on us. Last thing I knew another corp wardecced them as well - so expect many idle hours of looking for targets.
heu you wardecced the biggest alliance ingame, and then you complain about lack of targets, are you sure you looked in the right places seriously we dont mine ark/bist in jita you know 
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2006.03.13 13:32:00 -
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If you can get past the blobbage, there are much more targets in ASCN space than in empire and few pirate corps ever go there so you have them all to youselves. As said earlier it is unusual for ASCN to willingly engage you in a fair fight so, as long as your careful, losses should be minimal.
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Weebear
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Posted - 2006.03.13 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Zimi Vlasic x13 make sure you only have gangs of 5-6 ships because ASCN seems to refuse engagement when numbers are even, or when they're even up a couple ships.
If they outnumber you 2 to 1 then you might get a fight. Three to One is even better.
Fly all shuttles in the gang and your chances double  |

Zimi Vlasic
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Posted - 2006.03.13 13:41:00 -
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Originally by: Weebear
Originally by: Zimi Vlasic x13 make sure you only have gangs of 5-6 ships because ASCN seems to refuse engagement when numbers are even, or when they're even up a couple ships.
If they outnumber you 2 to 1 then you might get a fight. Three to One is even better.
Fly all shuttles in the gang and your chances double 
Yeah roll your eyes all you want.
Doesn't change the fact tht we'd like to fight you, but you guys apparently just want easy ganks and refuse anything else.
- Vlasic of TW Fame
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Gonada
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Posted - 2006.03.13 13:47:00 -
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unusual for ASCN to willingly engage you in a fair fight ---------------------------------------------------------- a small note: ascn has like 2000 members, give or take, and most want to pvp, so whoever wants to can, eh ? and of course they all form groups, gangs ect.
and, war is not fair. you want a fair fight, you duel, might vs right .

-I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.-
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Zimi Vlasic
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Posted - 2006.03.13 13:54:00 -
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Run away when numbers are even, engage with vastly superior numbers
That's ASCN's MO.
(Yes, I'm trying to get you tards riled up so you #$^%@$%^@ fight!)
- Vlasic of TW Fame
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R'adeh
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Posted - 2006.03.13 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Zimi Vlasic Run away when numbers are even, engage with vastly superior numbers
That's ASCN's MO.
(Yes, I'm trying to get you tards riled up so you #$^%@$%^@ fight!)
Frustrated?? Here, have a beer and quit the "everytime I attack ASCN in my Ibis, they bring 10 dreads" whining
As for making us $%#$%#%#@@, try harder 
PS: Looking forward to some fun fights X13, we know you have some very able PVP'ers on board...could get interesting...
"blah blah, we killed you, blah blah, they killed us, blah blah, some more smack blah blah, killboard..." |

Zimi Vlasic
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Posted - 2006.03.13 14:11:00 -
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dude I'm Amarr, I can't fly an Ibis =)
- Vlasic of TW Fame
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Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2006.03.13 14:19:00 -
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The ascn hate is not what it used to be...
I remember the glory of the days of olde when a swarm of alts would scream "backstab!" and "traitors!" now its all down to a sterile "blobbers".
/me sighs

- Gob
(my nubie attempt at a forum sig, bare with me plz :p) |

R'adeh
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Posted - 2006.03.13 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: Zimi Vlasic dude I'm Amarr, I can't fly an Ibis =)
Corrected, just for you 
"blah blah, we killed you, blah blah, they killed us, blah blah, some more smack blah blah, killboard..." |

Zimi Vlasic
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Posted - 2006.03.13 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: R'adeh
Originally by: Zimi Vlasic dude I'm Amarr, I can't fly an Ibis =)
Corrected, just for you 
much appreciated, amigo
- Vlasic of TW Fame
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k starwind
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Posted - 2006.03.13 15:10:00 -
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if you know where to look you will always get a fight. Easy way to get an even fight is to get more members and engage us with the same number of ships that we have.
x13 are good and we should have some fun times ahead of us.
as people have said ASCN dont mine trit in jita so not much chance of killing many there but feyth and impass is full of ASCN backstabbers/ blobbers/ what ever you want to call us.
While they were saying among themselves it cannot be done, it was done |

Xantina
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Posted - 2006.03.13 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: Rexy
Originally by: Xantina Well good luck X13 you'll need it - our war against ASCN just stopped and the last couple of days have been extremely boring as the guys just dried up on us. Last thing I knew another corp wardecced them as well - so expect many idle hours of looking for targets.
heu you wardecced the biggest alliance ingame, and then you complain about lack of targets, are you sure you looked in the right places seriously we dont mine ark/bist in jita you know 
Well we knew that of course so we were looking in Tash-Murkon as well 
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Notleh
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Posted - 2006.03.13 15:35:00 -
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So, I would like to get this straight...
You declare war on us and then complain that are too many of us want to fight?
Interesting.
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Exelsior
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Posted - 2006.03.13 15:38:00 -
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This is interesting.
Basically, guys attack us, incur into our space, stop me from carebearing in my 0.0 home and when half the local from a Hub in the middle of Feythabolis goes out and kicks the intruders butts u say we blobbed you?
Are we now being limited to the amount of people we can bring in to defend our space? We're not the aggressors in this case remember. Oh yeh and war isn't fair, and it never will be. War's about winning, not whinning. ------------------------- Thou shalt be dispatched. |

Grimpak
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Posted - 2006.03.13 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Goberth Ludwig The ascn hate is not what it used to be...
I remember the glory of the days of olde when a swarm of alts would scream "backstab!" and "traitors!" now its all down to a sterile "blobbers".
/me sighs

indeed... looks like we need to do something again
Originally by: Notleh So, I would like to get this straight...
You declare war on us and then complain that are too many of us want to fight?
Interesting.
think it wasn't X who said that, but G/IRON/the usual suspects ----------------
Originally by: Abdalion Shoot him ingame if you don't like this person. If you do like him, go mine veldspar with him.
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Canine Fiend
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Posted - 2006.03.13 15:49:00 -
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I don't think you guys are understanding this. You're war deccing us. We're going to do whatever we can to completely annhilate you guys. I couldn't give two ****s about a fair fight. If you want to war dec us, you'd better be ready to face superior numbers, we're not going to make this enjoyable for you, we're going to make war deccing us hell.
If it means starving you of targets or bringing 50 people to fight 5 guys, then so be it. ASCN does not look kindly upon mercs "Trying to make a living and have a good time in the process" Stay away from us, we'll stay away from you.
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"Stay up north boy, we don't play with training wheels down south." |

Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2006.03.13 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig The ascn hate is not what it used to be...
I remember the glory of the days of olde when a swarm of alts would scream "backstab!" and "traitors!" now its all down to a sterile "blobbers".
/me sighs

indeed... looks like we need to do something again
lets go steal trit in jita !!!!
- Gob
(my nubie attempt at a forum sig, bare with me plz :p) |

Jarek Naumen
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Posted - 2006.03.13 15:52:00 -
[71]
Fun stuff 
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2006.03.13 15:58:00 -
[72]
Originally by: k starwind ... ASCN backstabbers/ blobbers/ what ever you want to call us.
Filthy Hobbitssessss is my preferred term 
My Latest Vid (16/02/06) |

Fitz Chivalry
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Posted - 2006.03.13 16:04:00 -
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Some of the posts in this thread are funny, though I am glad to see none of the smack is coming from ROA or X13, who both seem to be cool corps thus far.
If you want to find lots of ASCN to kill then follow the advice of the experts in Burn Eden and head out to ASCN controlled space. You are not going to find much in Empire to kill as, you see, we are not an empire based alliance. Aside from 2 alts handling T2 production our corp does not have a single player that spends more than about 10% of their time in Empire.
If you want to gank a few agent runners then war dec, if you want to get some fights then head out to 0.0. |

Skoda Zek
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Posted - 2006.03.13 16:29:00 -
[74]
I think what Xantina is trying to say (as it appears some have misunderstood). Is not that we were overwhelmed by ASCN numbers during our empire war with you guys. But that towards the end. Specifically the last couple days, you guys were scarce. Even throught your travel pipe into TM.
Anyway, on a side note. I had a blast fighting ascn.
x13 will definatly have some good fights with the DDC, as they are very very formidable opponents.
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Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2006.03.13 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Fitz Chivalry Some of the posts in this thread are funny, though I am glad to see none of the smack is coming from ROA or X13, who both seem to be cool corps thus far.
If you want to find lots of ASCN to kill then follow the advice of the experts in Burn Eden and head out to ASCN controlled space. You are not going to find much in Empire to kill as, you see, we are not an empire based alliance. Aside from 2 alts handling T2 production our corp does not have a single player that spends more than about 10% of their time in Empire.
If you want to gank a few agent runners then war dec, if you want to get some fights then head out to 0.0.
What about my door to door miner I selling business in Nonni? :(
- Gob
(my nubie attempt at a forum sig, bare with me plz :p) |

BlackDog Rackh'am
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Posted - 2006.03.13 17:04:00 -
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Don't know who they are, but i will side with x13 due to our history with ASCN. 
Stand up fights against ASCN can be a boring affair, since they are very serious about not giving up ANY advantage at all and making it not fun for their enemy to fight them, which is generally a sound tactical approach on their part.
Guerilla tactics against ASCN on the other hand can be awesome fun and might even result in some bickering among local corps, as long as you don't follow the same route every day and avoid being predictable. Predictable=blobbed and dead  Objective numero uno is to avoid the blob at all costs, if you can do it the rest will be easy.
That being said, let's move on to the recipe for crispy baked hobbit meat from my EvE cookbook 
We'll need some hobbits (obviously), a pinch of regional geography, and a healthy mix of the good old gank'n'run sauce. Mix ingredients in room temperature, apply the sauce (should be hot) and serve in an oval dish.
Gank'n'run sauce comes in many flavors. Some want it heavy and hard to digest with a full taste, others prefer a more fluid approach to it. I like it fluid but with some decent potential, that's why i like to mix some tech2 chili to give it the added kick. I usually take 3 spoonfuls of mobility, 2 of firepower, 1 ration of rare scouting spices of the far east, a spoonful of jam-your-sensors salt, 2 cups of webNscramble milk cream to hold it all together and i grind them all together in a blender, then cook them up in a frying pan for 2-3 minutes before serving.
In layman's terms, that means: Get some HACs and a good scout. Optimal gang is 1 cov ops (preferrably a noob corp one with a clean employment history so as not to ring alarm bells upon entering local) with a good pilot who's FAST and ACCURATE with the scanner (can't stress this enough), 1-2 ceptors, 2-3 HACs, 0-2 BS (optional) . If you get only 2 hacs, get a vagabond and a jamming ishtar.
We've done this with less ships and it was really nice fun, trying to see if we could kill a couple of expensive ships and move out before their reinforcements come.
Don't bother with empire much, Esa is the only system to find lots of hostiles and even that can be totally boring or total blobbing depending on moods. Generally ASCN prepare even their newest members and lecture them not to move aimlessly in empire when there's a war going on. Last time i was at war with them we couldn't find any substancial numbers, unless near the entrances to their space and around Torrinos (they occassionally raid G/Iron). Avoid Esa and select an alternate route into Providence, there is one less than 10 jumps (through 0.0) from Esa.
Check the map for stations and single out the outposts, like 5P-AIP and some other systems (been some time since i was down there last time, can't recall more system names). Usually ouposts have nicer traffic than simple stations (why build it there if it's not a system you like living in, right?), i think there were a couple of complexes in the same system as one of them as well.
Next step is to locate a system with a station not more than 20 jumps from an outpost. This should belong to a party neutral or hostile to ASCN, or even an NPC station. For example, last time we were there we had docking access less than 20 jumps from the easternmost outpost.
Then we simply moved a small gang through most of the outposts on an east-to-west course getting a couple of kills in each hub system along the way. As soon as we got 2-3 kills we moved on to the next hub system. If we didn't get the kills we might push our luck and wait them out, but generally it is preferred not to sit there while they are gathering a gang (though we killed a vindicator once doing just that). The nice part about this is that by the time you reach the last outpost and start on your return route, defences on the first outpost you attacked will be relaxed again and you can catch some people with their pants down once more.
Originally by: Black Lotus I vote u for KIA spokesperson.
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Ltwank
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Posted - 2006.03.13 17:15:00 -
[77]
Nice. Just makesure you fit atleast +5 scramble strength to each ship when you fight ascn, they love a bit of stabbage, and thats IF they even engage if you have equal numbers.
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Drilla
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Posted - 2006.03.13 17:18:00 -
[78]
x13 have ex-Tyrants members - ofc. they are good :P
Both sides will have fun in this one I bet.
Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost! |

R'adeh
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Posted - 2006.03.13 17:26:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Lt**** Nice. Just makesure you fit atleast +5 scramble strength to each ship when you fight ascn, they love a bit of stabbage...
True, we have a WCS contract with BE since our own industrialists can't keep up with production 
"blah blah, we killed you, blah blah, they killed us, blah blah, some more smack blah blah, killboard..." |

Evelyn Exe
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Posted - 2006.03.13 17:29:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Lt**** Nice. Just makesure you fit atleast +5 scramble strength to each ship when you fight ascn, they love a bit of stabbage, and thats IF they even engage if you have equal numbers.
Its true, we are the only alliance in EVE that:
(i) prefers to fight with a numerical advantage - you will never find any other group of pilots in EVE avoid a fight or move to a SS when tthey do not hold the advantage and
(ii) has people that fit WCS on our ships.
I am sure Digital Fury pilots would never dream of fitting a WCS to a combat ship. |

Mang0o
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Posted - 2006.03.13 18:08:00 -
[81]
Well lets have some fun ASCN 
I love you Mang0o, take a guess why -Eris |

Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2006.03.13 18:23:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Lt**** Nice. Just makesure you fit atleast +5 scramble strength to each ship when you fight ascn, they love a bit of stabbage, and thats IF they even engage if you have equal numbers.
wow these ascn are a total shame!
how comes they are allowed to claim 0.0?

- Gob
(my nubie attempt at a forum sig, bare with me plz :p) |

Grimpak
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Posted - 2006.03.13 18:37:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig The ascn hate is not what it used to be...
I remember the glory of the days of olde when a swarm of alts would scream "backstab!" and "traitors!" now its all down to a sterile "blobbers".
/me sighs

indeed... looks like we need to do something again
lets go steal trit in jita !!!!
DIBS ON THE FIRST CAN!!!1111one ----------------
Originally by: Abdalion Shoot him ingame if you don't like this person. If you do like him, go mine veldspar with him.
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Mexicanfx
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Posted - 2006.03.13 18:45:00 -
[84]
OMFG why all the lets be nice to the mercs crap in this thread.
Noone cares 
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Rohann
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Posted - 2006.03.13 18:57:00 -
[85]
I think you should all kick the **** out of each other then do it over and over and over........
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Kibito
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Posted - 2006.03.13 20:01:00 -
[86]
Pleas.. stop the smack and go back to your miners 
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Josclyn Verreuil
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Posted - 2006.03.13 20:18:00 -
[87]
Originally by: BlackDog Rackh'am stuff
<3 Black. You know that vexor is still alive :p
In all reality though, the tactic Blackdog just described is pretty much the same tactic used against anyone. The roaming gank-squad is hardly anything new :) But in the end, it just contributes to the cycle of blobbage. You come to gank our soft targets, you can expect for us to try to gank your gank, etc etc.
~Clan Verreuil |

Mozana
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Posted - 2006.03.13 21:11:00 -
[88]
I see a lot of ASCN responding to something about blobs/stabs/<insert whine here>
Did any x13 accuse you of blobbing or stabbing or anything?
I don't think so
let's keep this smackfree, shall we?
;o)
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k starwind
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Posted - 2006.03.13 21:17:00 -
[89]
the blobbing comments have come from other corps in eve not in ascn which all ascn members have heard on many occasion.
x13 are good pvpers and blood will be spilt on both sides
While they were saying among themselves it cannot be done, it was done |

Mallik Hendrake
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Posted - 2006.03.13 21:55:00 -
[90]
Pure Blind & Torrinos are good places to find ASCN :P -------------------------------------------- "A plan is just a list of things that don't happen." -- Parker, _The Way of the Gun_
Mallik Hendrake E X O D U S [I do not speak for E X O or IRON] |

Fitz Chivalry
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Posted - 2006.03.13 22:20:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Mozana I see a lot of ASCN responding to something about blobs/stabs/<insert whine here>
Did any x13 accuse you of blobbing or stabbing or anything?
I don't think so
let's keep this smackfree, shall we?
Of course thats why if you look above you will see that I say:
Originally by: Fitz Chivalry Some of the posts in this thread are funny, though I am glad to see none of the smack is coming from ROA or X13, who both seem to be cool corps thus far.
See you ingame :)
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Mexicanfx
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Posted - 2006.03.14 01:23:00 -
[92]
x13 made baby gobbins cry

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F stenzie
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Posted - 2006.03.14 07:45:00 -
[93]
Edited by: F stenzie on 14/03/2006 07:45:31 OMG
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FlumZ
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Posted - 2006.03.14 07:48:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Drilla x13 have ex-Tyrants members - ofc. they are good :P
Both sides will have fun in this one I bet.
drilla <E
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Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2006.03.14 09:42:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Mexicanfx x13 made baby gobbins cry

ahr my poor speedy vigil :¦(
- Gob
(my nubie attempt at a forum sig, bare with me plz :p) |

larietta
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Posted - 2006.03.14 10:34:00 -
[96]
hope every ones having fun o/ hi mex
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Gurney Halleck
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Posted - 2006.03.14 11:11:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Aramark who is this x13? anyone know? are they any good?
LOL....Who is x13....are they any good? You have GOT to be kidding me!!!
I suggest you make sure your clone is updated, you're about to find out!
Good Luck x13 !!!
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Der Pfaffe
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Posted - 2006.03.14 12:52:00 -
[98]
X13 are very good and I am sure both sides will have a lot of fun. However, I think it is ASCN that will find themselves at the pointy end of the stick. 
GL guys. ______________
"Kill one frighten ten thousand" - Sun Tsu |

Evelyn Exe
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Posted - 2006.03.14 13:33:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Der Pfaffe X13 are very good and I am sure both sides will have a lot of fun. However, I think it is ASCN that will find themselves at the pointy end of the stick. 
Of course we will lose more than X13 - if you war dec a 0.0 based corp or alliance and cant get more kills than you suffer losses then you are doing something very wrong.
You just have to look at the reality of the situation. In empire a 0.0 based alliance has basically two kinds of members:-
(i) solo players doing agent missions (and in NPC fitted HACs or BS) (ii) solo players collecting ships or equipment
Both groups are very susceptible to ganks, which is what empire wars consist of 99% of the time.
The empire based war deccing corp will always be flying in a group, usually of at least 5 ships, all set up to get ganks with a couple of tacklers and a couple of damage dealers.
If you are in empire and need to get somewhere else then the chances of their being 5 or more of your alliance mates in the same system all wanting to travel to the saem destination are slim to nil, so either you dont go or you accept the risks.
Taking ASCN as an example, things are a little different in hotspots like torrinos and esa where there are likely to be more alliance people present at any one time but again because they are logging in at differnt times and not part of the same corp its much harder to act in a co-ordinated manner against a single corp. If the alliance gets together in a group to attack the pvp corp then (aside from the claims of OMG u blob!!!11111!!) the pvp corp or mercs simply use out of corp spies to see it coming and just dock or move away.
This is not a flame to anyone group, just a quick pointer that the single corp attacking a large alliance should always get plenty more kills than it takes. |

DeadDuck
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Posted - 2006.03.14 13:45:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Gurney Halleck
Originally by: Aramark who is this x13? anyone know? are they any good?
LOL....Who is x13....are they any good? You have GOT to be kidding me!!!
I suggest you make sure your clone is updated, you're about to find out!
Good Luck x13 !!!
Trust me both corps know each other extremelly well ... during 2 or 3 weeks TWL and X13 fought a war with heavy casualties to both sides ... in the end X13 won ... the war ended and both corps still have a lot of respect for each other, I believe
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Praxxus Dentor
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Posted - 2006.03.14 14:27:00 -
[101]
Originally by: DeadDuck
Originally by: Gurney Halleck
Originally by: Aramark who is this x13? anyone know? are they any good?
LOL....Who is x13....are they any good? You have GOT to be kidding me!!!
I suggest you make sure your clone is updated, you're about to find out!
Good Luck x13 !!!
Trust me both corps know each other extremelly well ... during 2 or 3 weeks TWL and X13 fought a war with heavy casualties to both sides ... in the end X13 won ... the war ended and both corps still have a lot of respect for each other, I believe
Good luck.
You'll need it against ASCN. They can lose 4:1 in BS and still beat your ass like a blind, cripple man with one arm tied behind his back.
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ecam's Hunter
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Posted - 2006.03.14 14:39:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Evelyn Exe
Originally by: Der Pfaffe X13 are very good and I am sure both sides will have a lot of fun. However, I think it is ASCN that will find themselves at the pointy end of the stick. 
Of course we will lose more than X13 - if you war dec a 0.0 based corp or alliance and cant get more kills than you suffer losses then you are doing something very wrong.
You just have to look at the reality of the situation. In empire a 0.0 based alliance has basically two kinds of members:-
(i) solo players doing agent missions (and in NPC fitted HACs or BS) (ii) solo players collecting ships or equipment
Both groups are very susceptible to ganks, which is what empire wars consist of 99% of the time.
The empire based war deccing corp will always be flying in a group, usually of at least 5 ships, all set up to get ganks with a couple of tacklers and a couple of damage dealers.
If you are in empire and need to get somewhere else then the chances of their being 5 or more of your alliance mates in the same system all wanting to travel to the saem destination are slim to nil, so either you dont go or you accept the risks.
Taking ASCN as an example, things are a little different in hotspots like torrinos and esa where there are likely to be more alliance people present at any one time but again because they are logging in at differnt times and not part of the same corp its much harder to act in a co-ordinated manner against a single corp. If the alliance gets together in a group to attack the pvp corp then (aside from the claims of OMG u blob!!!11111!!) the pvp corp or mercs simply use out of corp spies to see it coming and just dock or move away.
This is not a flame to anyone group, just a quick pointer that the single corp attacking a large alliance should always get plenty more kills than it takes.
I like this post as its relivent and very true. ----> Insert something funny here <----
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Danari
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Posted - 2006.03.14 20:37:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Skoda Zek Is not that we were overwhelmed by ASCN numbers during our empire war with you guys. But that towards the end. Specifically the last couple days, you guys were scarce. Even throught your travel pipe into TM.
It's no secret our goal is to make Empire redundant.
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Danari
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Posted - 2006.03.14 21:02:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Zimi Vlasic (Yes, I'm trying to get you tards riled up so you #$^%@$%^@ fight!)
You guys don't even ring a bell to me other than a rarely-encountered target on our current campaign, even though I currently live near where you apparently live. Where are you guys? Near CRC/L-C maybe?
We've been outblobbed so often up north I barely notice it anymore really, and I can't recall anyone in our gangs or forums complaining about it, we just move on. I think our choices of engagements compare favorably to the fights (vs. gank & runs) brought to our space so those of you who respond to game mechanics with whining, energy wasted imo.
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Mozana
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Posted - 2006.03.14 21:29:00 -
[105]
Quote: You'll need it against ASCN. They can lose 4:1 in BS and still beat your ass like a blind, cripple man with one arm tied behind his back.
Beat us? I dont think anyone expect x13 to get ASCN to surrender, on the other hand you shouldt count on ASCN bringin x13 down as well..
And even if we loose ships (which we off course will do), we will still just do what we have been contracted to. And not consider us self beaten ;)
And should this somehow end up with us loosing a lot of ships, we will not complain about that ether, knowing we prolly brought a lot of ships down with us, which will prolly satisfy someone else
This is a contract, not about long term surviving, nor kill-ratio.
We dont complain about blobs, we dont whine about loosing a battleship or two
And we might even loose a 1on1 from time to time (like the one tonigt, gj ASCN pilot ;)
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2006.03.14 22:00:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Mozana
Quote: You'll need it against ASCN. They can lose 4:1 in BS and still beat your ass like a blind, cripple man with one arm tied behind his back.
Beat us? I dont think anyone expect x13 to get ASCN to surrender, on the other hand you shouldt count on ASCN bringin x13 down as well..
And even if we loose ships (which we off course will do), we will still just do what we have been contracted to. And not consider us self beaten ;)
And should this somehow end up with us loosing a lot of ships, we will not complain about that ether, knowing we prolly brought a lot of ships down with us, which will prolly satisfy someone else
This is a contract, not about long term surviving, nor kill-ratio.
We dont complain about blobs, we dont whine about loosing a battleship or two
And we might even loose a 1on1 from time to time (like the one tonigt, gj ASCN pilot ;)
ok x13 have an A+ in my book. Respect to ya \o\ ----------------
Originally by: Abdalion Shoot him ingame if you don't like this person. If you do like him, go mine veldspar with him.
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Sir Kad
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Posted - 2006.03.14 22:20:00 -
[107]
diddo Grim... e-peen measuring 4tl...
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Praxxus Dentor
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Posted - 2006.03.15 14:43:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Mozana
Beat us? I dont think anyone expect x13 to get ASCN to surrender, on the other hand you shouldt count on ASCN bringin x13 down as well..
LOL! If you weren't declaring against ASCN, your group wouldn't even be significant to them. ASCN has never cared about controling anything but Feythabolis and Impass. Querrious was an unfortunate result of the instability created by G forces. And if you're looking for them in empire, best of luck bro. 
But don't take my word for it. Go down and see for yourself. I'm sure the members of EDF and DDC will give you a nice warm welcome.
Originally by: Mozana And even if we loose ships (which we off course will do), we will still just do what we have been contracted to. And not consider us self beaten ;)
You won't even come close to inflicting any pain on that alliance. You're a pin***** at best. G/Iron is probably the largest threat they've faced, and despite trying very, very, hard in a bitterly contested series of battles, G/Iron was unable to dislodge the hobbits and gain control of the stations. No stations, no POS's, no system control, no stirring the hobbits.
Originally by: Mozana And should this somehow end up with us loosing a lot of ships, we will not complain about that ether, knowing we prolly brought a lot of ships down with us, which will prolly satisfy someone else
This is a contract, not about long term surviving, nor kill-ratio.
"Somehow" lose a lot of ships? I'd say expect it. If this contract isn't about killing more of them than you, are you just saying you're getting paid to go down to Impass and die?
Originally by: Mozana We dont complain about blobs, we dont whine about loosing a battleship or two
You've also never fought ASCN. 
Originally by: Mozana And we might even loose a 1on1 from time to time (like the one tonigt, gj ASCN pilot ;)
If you think losing ships 1 on 1 with ASCN is going to impact their alliance in any way, shape or form, you have a lot to learn about ASCN. It's not a victory if you inflict 5:1 losses on them. They probably have a bigger industrial arm in the game than anyone, and certainly have no issues in outproducing their losses quite easily.
But, like I said, feel free to go and learn for yourself. 
Armchair strategies 4tl!
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FlumZ
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Posted - 2006.03.15 14:54:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Mozana We dont complain about blobs, we dont whine about loosing a battleship or two
You've also never fought ASCN. 
Quote:
we never fought ascn?, its second time war with u =)
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Mozana
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Posted - 2006.03.15 15:35:00 -
[110]
Quote: If you think losing ships 1 on 1 with ASCN is going to impact their alliance in any way, shape or form, you have a lot to learn about ASCN. It's not a victory if you inflict 5:1 losses on them. They probably have a bigger industrial arm in the game than anyone, and certainly have no issues in outproducing their losses quite easily.
Did you in fact anyway read my statement? I actually dont think so.
Fly safe, and stop taking stuff so seriusly.
We are contracted, and will do what we are paid to do. The job will be done, and yes, we will win EVE ;-)
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Coahim Madden
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Posted - 2006.03.15 15:48:00 -
[111]
Edited by: Coahim Madden on 15/03/2006 15:49:15
Originally by: Praxxus Dentor
Armchair strategies 4tl!
Armchair alts 4tl!
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Der Pfaffe
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Posted - 2006.03.15 15:51:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Praxxus Dentor Snipped a lot of total b******s
Not only are you a clueless alt, you are also a very dim clueless alt. ______________
"Kill one frighten ten thousand" - Sun Tsu |

Der Pfaffe
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Posted - 2006.03.15 16:00:00 -
[113]
Originally by: ecam's Hunter
Originally by: Evelyn Exe
Originally by: Der Pfaffe X13 are very good and I am sure both sides will have a lot of fun. However, I think it is ASCN that will find themselves at the pointy end of the stick. 
Of course we will lose more than X13 - if you war dec a 0.0 based corp or alliance and cant get more kills than you suffer losses then you are doing something very wrong.
You just have to look at the reality of the situation. In empire a 0.0 based alliance has basically two kinds of members:-
(i) solo players doing agent missions (and in NPC fitted HACs or BS) (ii) solo players collecting ships or equipment
Both groups are very susceptible to ganks, which is what empire wars consist of 99% of the time.
The empire based war deccing corp will always be flying in a group, usually of at least 5 ships, all set up to get ganks with a couple of tacklers and a couple of damage dealers.
If you are in empire and need to get somewhere else then the chances of their being 5 or more of your alliance mates in the same system all wanting to travel to the saem destination are slim to nil, so either you dont go or you accept the risks.
Taking ASCN as an example, things are a little different in hotspots like torrinos and esa where there are likely to be more alliance people present at any one time but again because they are logging in at differnt times and not part of the same corp its much harder to act in a co-ordinated manner against a single corp. If the alliance gets together in a group to attack the pvp corp then (aside from the claims of OMG u blob!!!11111!!) the pvp corp or mercs simply use out of corp spies to see it coming and just dock or move away.
This is not a flame to anyone group, just a quick pointer that the single corp attacking a large alliance should always get plenty more kills than it takes.
I like this post as its relivent and very true.
I totally agree with you mate. It's for all the reasons you stated that I said what I did. Plus the fact I have flown with X13 and seen first hand how they operate. ______________
"Kill one frighten ten thousand" - Sun Tsu |

Ademaro Imre
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Posted - 2006.03.15 16:19:00 -
[114]
Edited by: Ademaro Imre on 15/03/2006 16:19:22
Originally by: Evelyn Exe the pvp corp or mercs simply use out of corp spies to see it coming and just dock or move away.
This is not a flame to anyone group, just a quick pointer that the single corp attacking a large alliance should always get plenty more kills than it takes.
X13 should form an alliance for all of their 2nd account spies that sit at gates. I don't know how they keep up with them all.
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zac2000
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Posted - 2006.03.15 17:34:00 -
[115]
Quote: X13 should form an alliance for all of their 2nd account spies that sit at gates. I don't know how they keep up with them all.
I wish everyone would be like ASCN, which is not using alt's at all.
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Netto
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Posted - 2006.03.15 18:05:00 -
[116]
We need a new forum area where alts can sit around and continually flame other alts. Alts flaming alts flaming alts flaming...
With that said, as I've said before, x13 has some well known PvPers, are well informed and have great coordination. Their employer finds their services valuable enough to spend money on. That's all the really relevant information anyone should need in this thread. So please, alts.. give it a rest.
Netto
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Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2006.03.15 18:19:00 -
[117]
wheres the alt-busters when u need them?
- Gob
(my nubie attempt at a forum sig, bare with me plz :p) |

Mang0o
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Posted - 2006.03.15 18:32:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Netto We need a new forum area where alts can sit around and continually flame other alts. Alts flaming alts flaming alts flaming...
With that said, as I've said before, x13 has some well known PvPers, are well informed and have great coordination. Their employer finds their services valuable enough to spend money on. That's all the really relevant information anyone should need in this thread. So please, alts.. give it a rest.
Netto
ill spare your life... for 3hole days..    Nah but i hope this will be fun.. i moved all the way from stain(have my miners there MASS) To get some nice pvp.. cya soon 
I love you Mang0o, take a guess why -Eris |

Grimpak
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Posted - 2006.03.15 18:43:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig wheres the alt-busters when u need them?
so true ----------------
Originally by: Abdalion Shoot him ingame if you don't like this person. If you do like him, go mine veldspar with him.
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Netto
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Posted - 2006.03.15 21:31:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Mang0o
Originally by: Netto We need a new forum area where alts can sit around and continually flame other alts. Alts flaming alts flaming alts flaming...
With that said, as I've said before, x13 has some well known PvPers, are well informed and have great coordination. Their employer finds their services valuable enough to spend money on. That's all the really relevant information anyone should need in this thread. So please, alts.. give it a rest.
Netto
ill spare your life... for 3hole days..    Nah but i hope this will be fun.. i moved all the way from stain(have my miners there MASS) To get some nice pvp.. cya soon 
Well, we got an agenda up there and I can tell you for the most part we won't be looking to engage x13, but I'm looking forward to the mix ups we do have.
Btw, <3 your sigs 
Netto
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Kibito
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Posted - 2006.03.15 21:40:00 -
[121]
<3 Netto 
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Echo147
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Posted - 2006.03.15 23:08:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Berneh
Originally by: captain Donkey what is Ascendant Frontier doing so far north in the first place?
we took the wrong turn in alberkurky
:(
Berneh you dirty get! Fancy joining the dark side 
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Amugo
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Posted - 2006.03.16 01:06:00 -
[123]
Originally by: zac2000
Quote: X13 should form an alliance for all of their 2nd account spies that sit at gates. I don't know how they keep up with them all.
I wish everyone would be like ASCN, which is not using alt's at all.
I have an alt just like alot of people, except my alt is actually in ASCN
You currently have 135 skills and 15,830,851 skill points |

Berneh
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Posted - 2006.03.16 02:11:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Echo147
Originally by: Berneh
Originally by: captain Donkey what is Ascendant Frontier doing so far north in the first place?
we took the wrong turn in alberkurky
:(
Berneh you dirty get! Fancy joining the dark side 
ZOMG HI 2 U !!!
Nice siggeh btw  ______________________________________ Wakibaki > lady boys are better in bed than any english girl If you say so waki :) |

zcinner
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Posted - 2006.03.16 14:42:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Kibito
Originally by: Brisi
Originally by: KingAc Kladdkaka??????????
Sagde hun ogss igsr...
Sikkert 
mmmm kladdkaka
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ZedLey
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Posted - 2006.03.16 14:50:00 -
[126]
kladdkaka is so old 
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