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Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
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Posted - 2013.12.25 02:51:00 -
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12 days of random junk then a shuttle?
REALLY??
Way to treat your customers after a great year:
Largest battle in Eve history. - made news out of game (free publicity)
Largest isk lost battle in eve history. - made news out of game (free publicity)
Raising $190k for Plex for good - (World news, and even got you a meeting with the president of Iceland) (MEGA publicity)
All of that just for you to skimp out on x-mas and give out worthless junk.
Worst x-mas ever CCP. |

Dak Dallocort
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
26
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Posted - 2013.12.25 02:56:00 -
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Your parents must really hate you. |

EI Digin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1485
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Posted - 2013.12.25 02:56:00 -
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So out of all of these great events that we participated in, what did you do to deserve anything out of it? |

Knights Armament
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
136
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Posted - 2013.12.25 02:57:00 -
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I enjoyed it, fedo is a good pet, the shuttle is fast, and I wasn't expecting handouts in the form of a gnosis.
I might add, implants would have been nice, and so would ccp mintchip greeting cards. http://evemouthbreathers.blogspot.com/
https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=29554516-05f9-4eca-a942-32e1701a6569&action=buddy |

Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
365
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Posted - 2013.12.25 02:57:00 -
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You were an only child, weren't you.
I for one like my causality bendingly fast shuttle.
EDIT: Seriously OP, what the hell is wrong with you? Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Sometimes when I post, I look at my sig and wish that I'd follow my own god damned advice. |

Katran Luftschreck
Stillwater Corporation
1774
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Posted - 2013.12.25 02:58:00 -
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Are you kidding? That shuttle rocks!
Want to burn through losec like a ghost, untouchable by anything? Want a ship that makes regular shuttles look like a nullsec tidi blob-war sleep-inducing YouTube video?
Getting blueprints in and out of those losec research stations has never been easier.
<3 Leopard Nullsec in a Nutshell: http://nedroid.com/comics/2006-08-24-2155-arrrdino.gif |

Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
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Posted - 2013.12.25 03:02:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:Are you kidding? That shuttle rocks!
Want to burn through losec like a ghost, untouchable by anything? Want a ship that makes regular shuttles look like a nullsec tidi blob-war sleep-inducing YouTube video?
Getting blueprints in and out of those losec research stations has never been easier.
<3 Leopard
Please fly your "untouchable" shuttle in jita, or take it through the rancer pocket and we'll see how "untouchable" it is. |

Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
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Posted - 2013.12.25 03:03:00 -
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Grey Azorria wrote:You were an only child, weren't you.
I for one like my causality bendingly fast shuttle.
EDIT: Seriously OP, what the hell is wrong with you?
A lot, mostly disappointment though. |

Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
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Posted - 2013.12.25 03:05:00 -
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EI Digin wrote:So out of all of these great events that we participated in, what did you do to deserve anything out of it?
I don't know, took part in all of them?
Wrote blogs/streamed the events?
Created content for players and viewers?
Pick one. |

Knights Armament
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
136
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Posted - 2013.12.25 03:06:00 -
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Thatt Guy wrote:Grey Azorria wrote:You were an only child, weren't you.
I for one like my causality bendingly fast shuttle.
EDIT: Seriously OP, what the hell is wrong with you? A lot, mostly disappointment though.
Complaining about christmas gifts makes you look like one of those teenagers from my sweet 16. http://evemouthbreathers.blogspot.com/
https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=29554516-05f9-4eca-a942-32e1701a6569&action=buddy |

Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
831
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Posted - 2013.12.25 03:06:00 -
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I'm somewhat amazed at how terrible a person you can be over a video game.
Quote:Largest battle in Eve history. - made news out of game (free publicity)
Largest isk lost battle in eve history. - made news out of game (free publicity) Those battles happened because CCP provided the medium for them to happen. CCP has every reason to brag about it. Yes, it wouldn't have happened without the players, but that is what those that participated were here for right? To be in a game provided by CCP that allows those things to happen. Those were just as much highlights of their continual work for the product they serve us as it was an event for them to brag about.
Quote:Raising $190k for Plex for good - (World news, and even got you a meeting with the president of Iceland) (MEGA publicity) This is your reason for giving? Just to get stuff back? Given the reason for the charity that's really all sorts of messed up. |

Hung TuLo
Universal Fleet Operations The Unthinkables
64
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Posted - 2013.12.25 03:10:00 -
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Thanks CCP for what you gave us. The real reason for Christmas and for our season is still Jesus Christ our savior who later died on the cross for all of mankind so that they who are and were sinners would go to heaven.
CCP is showing that love in what they gave to us. They didn't have to do it. but they did. It might be a small thing to some but to all it is something.
thanks mates and have a very Merry Christmas. "In space all warriors are cold warriors" ----á General Chang-á Star Trek VI |

Fabulous Rod
Darkfall Corp
25
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Posted - 2013.12.25 03:11:00 -
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The shuttle is great. Thank you CCP. Please ignore this ungrateful man-child. |

Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
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Posted - 2013.12.25 03:12:00 -
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Hung TuLo wrote:Thanks CCP for what you gave us. The real reason for Christmas and for our season is still Jesus Christ our savior who later died on the cross for all of mankind so that they who are and were sinners would go to heaven.
CCP is showing that love in what they gave to us. They didn't have to do it. but they did. It might be a small thing to some but to all it is something.
thanks mates and have a very Merry Christmas.
Please keep your flying spaghetti monster stories to yourself. |

Knights Armament
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
136
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Posted - 2013.12.25 03:15:00 -
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The truth is religion was created so people wouldn't feel bad about dying as much, and to help convince people to die in wars, and give money to charity.
http://evemouthbreathers.blogspot.com/
https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=29554516-05f9-4eca-a942-32e1701a6569&action=buddy |

Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
831
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 03:15:00 -
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Thatt Guy wrote:Hung TuLo wrote:Thanks CCP for what you gave us. The real reason for Christmas and for our season is still Jesus Christ our savior who later died on the cross for all of mankind so that they who are and were sinners would go to heaven.
CCP is showing that love in what they gave to us. They didn't have to do it. but they did. It might be a small thing to some but to all it is something.
thanks mates and have a very Merry Christmas. Please keep your flying spaghetti monster stories to yourself. If only you'd do the same with your entitlement complaining. |

Kryptik Kai
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2958
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Posted - 2013.12.25 03:17:00 -
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I'll give this a 6/10
/popcorn "Shiny.-á Lets be bad guys." -Jayne Cobb |

Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
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Posted - 2013.12.25 03:17:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:I'm somewhat amazed at how terrible a person you can be over a video game. Quote:Largest battle in Eve history. - made news out of game (free publicity)
Largest isk lost battle in eve history. - made news out of game (free publicity) Those battles happened because CCP provided the medium for them to happen. CCP has every reason to brag about it. Yes, it wouldn't have happened without the players, but that is what those that participated were here for right? To be in a game provided by CCP that allows those things to happen. Those were just as much highlights of their continual work for the product they serve us as it was an event for them to brag about. Quote:Raising $190k for Plex for good - (World news, and even got you a meeting with the president of Iceland) (MEGA publicity) This is your reason for giving? Just to get stuff back? Given the reason for the charity that's really all sorts of messed up.
Actually I gave because I had space-money that could help out in RL, but that doesn't change the fact that CCP will use this for years to come as a point of pride and advertising.
Would it have really been that hard to make the gifts something good, or even special? Remap CA implants Anything other than t1 junk And a shuttle as the big reveal?... please
/effort
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University Minmatar Republic
639
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Posted - 2013.12.25 03:20:00 -
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Thatt Guy wrote:Hung TuLo wrote:Thanks CCP for what you gave us. The real reason for Christmas and for our season is still Jesus Christ our savior who later died on the cross for all of mankind so that they who are and were sinners would go to heaven.
CCP is showing that love in what they gave to us. They didn't have to do it. but they did. It might be a small thing to some but to all it is something.
thanks mates and have a very Merry Christmas. Please keep your flying spaghetti monster stories to yourself. Please keep your ungrateful self-entitled bitching and whining to yourself. |

Seven Koskanaiken
Sons Of Saints Circle-Of-Two
607
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Posted - 2013.12.25 03:22:00 -
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Someone is getting a visit by 4 ghosts tonight. |

Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
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Posted - 2013.12.25 03:25:00 -
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And BTW, high five for starting more micro-transactions.
You can now buy plex to get: Space Barbie dress-up clothes! ALL NEW! Snowballs that were given out for free!
I wonder how long it will be before they try to add special ships/ammo...
CCP = Cash collecting program
|

Haygrove
Sturmgrenadier Inc
19
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Posted - 2013.12.25 03:25:00 -
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You are "entitled" to nothing. Your assumption that you are makes you just look like mommies lil' princess... and I don't care if you are a guy or not.... but who knows with an avatar like yours. |

Vembuvend
State War Academy Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2013.12.25 03:25:00 -
[23] - Quote
Christmas is not about getting, It's about giving.  |

Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
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Posted - 2013.12.25 03:27:00 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:Someone is getting a visit by 4 ghosts tonight.
They would look at my life and say: "Yeah, ok, your right... my bad, carry on..." |

Katran Luftschreck
Stillwater Corporation
1775
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Posted - 2013.12.25 03:27:00 -
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Thatt Guy wrote:Please fly your "untouchable" shuttle in jita, or take it through the rancer pocket and we'll see how "untouchable" it is.
... well considering that before I used to use shuttles to zip in and out of losec all the time. Never had a problem. Only ships small enough to lock a shuttle before it's in warp are the ones small enough for the gate guns to actually nuke. The ships big enough to tank the gate guns were too slow to lock my shuttle.
And that's a basic shuttle. Ok in theory someone could certainly tweak a cruiser or whatever for max lock speed, but then they sacrifice the all important DPS and tank. No one I ever saw went that route, and I don't blame them. Besides, only ten year old "lulz" nitwits would even care in the first place.
Now multiply that by "Leopard" and again, as I said before, you're a ghost. They'd have better luck trying to tag a covert ops ship.
And Jita? It's a shuttle, not a freighter. You're getting your ships confused.
Rancer? Maybe, but I honestly don't give a crap about Rancer so who cares?
Oh, and this is the part where you try to convince me that you're actually just the alt of some uberskilled Titan pilot with trillions of ISK and quadrillions of SP who's seen, done and knows everything about everything.
Well kids, I'm not a pro. And that's my point. These things are simple. So simple, in fact, that even a novice like me can pull it off. So spare us the e-peen ego trip. This is EvE and there's always a bigger ego than yours out there who can spout even more bragging BS about how leet they are.
This isn't about leet. This is about running like a bunny and not getting caught. And the Leopard is very, very good at this. So I like it.
Nullsec in a Nutshell: http://nedroid.com/comics/2006-08-24-2155-arrrdino.gif |

Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 03:28:00 -
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Haygrove wrote:You are "entitled" to nothing. Your assumption that you are makes you just look like mommies lil' princess... and I don't care if you are a guy or not.... but who knows with an avatar like yours.
Never said I was "entitled" to anything... Just said CCP did a crappy job this year. |

Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
831
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 03:29:00 -
[27] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote: Actually I gave because I had space-money that could help out in RL, but that doesn't change the fact that CCP will use this for years to come as a point of pride and advertising.
Would it have really been that hard to make the gifts something good, or even special? Remap CA implants Anything other than t1 junk And a shuttle as the big reveal?... please
/effort
This is irrelevant. If you give, then genuinely give. Not as some moral collateral, leverage or something to hold over someones head. It entitled you to none of the stuff you wanted, nor to any of the things you actually got.
And just as with all the prior gift ships this is special in that it is unique and limited in quantity and similarly function. The only exception being a ship given out to celebrate 10 years of EvE's existence, something similarly unnecessary on CCP's part. Technically this shuttle is better in function than the 5 year gift shuttle despite that being a milestone more worthy of recognition for the game. |

Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1237
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 03:31:00 -
[28] - Quote
I thought EVE was 13+ ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |

Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 03:33:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:Please fly your "untouchable" shuttle in jita, or take it through the rancer pocket and we'll see how "untouchable" it is. ... well considering that before I used to use shuttles to zip in and out of losec all the time. Never had a problem. Only ships small enough to lock a shuttle before it's in warp are the ones small enough for the gate guns to actually nuke. The ships big enough to tank the gate guns were too slow to lock my shuttle. And that's a basic shuttle. Ok in theory someone could certainly tweak a cruiser or whatever for max lock speed, but then they sacrifice the all important DPS and tank. No one I ever saw went that route, and I don't blame them. Besides, only ten year old "lulz" nitwits would even care in the first place. Now multiply that by "Leopard" and again, as I said before, you're a ghost. They'd have better luck trying to tag a covert ops ship. And Jita? It's a shuttle, not a freighter. You're getting your ships confused. Rancer? Maybe, but I honestly don't give a crap about Rancer so who cares? Oh, and this is the part where you try to convince me that you're actually just the alt of some uberskilled Titan pilot with trillions of ISK and quadrillions of SP who's seen, done and knows everything about everything. Well kids, I'm not a pro. And that's my point. These things are simple. So simple, in fact, that even a novice like me can pull it off. So spare us the e-peen ego trip. This is EvE and there's always a bigger ego than yours out there who can spout even more bragging BS about how leet they are. This isn't about leet. This is about running like a bunny and not getting caught. And the Leopard is very, very good at this. So I like it.
highlighted the important part, you have no idea what your talking about.
People will suicide this shuttle in jita because it's different, go look at killboards already.
Why would you need "tank and DPS' to kill a shuttle?
Their called smartbombs.
Don't worry, one day you'll grow up and come to understand the truth behind the Eve universe. |

Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 03:36:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Thatt Guy wrote: Actually I gave because I had space-money that could help out in RL, but that doesn't change the fact that CCP will use this for years to come as a point of pride and advertising.
Would it have really been that hard to make the gifts something good, or even special? Remap CA implants Anything other than t1 junk And a shuttle as the big reveal?... please
/effort
This is irrelevant. If you give, then genuinely give. Not as some moral collateral, leverage or something to hold over someones head. It entitled you to none of the stuff you wanted, nor to any of the things you actually got. And just as with all the prior gift ships this is special in that it is unique and limited in quantity and similarly function. The only exception being a ship given out to celebrate 10 years of EvE's existence, something similarly unnecessary on CCP's part. Technically this shuttle is better in function than the 5 year gift shuttle despite that being a milestone more worthy of recognition for the game.
Please learn to read, never said entitled, never said deserved because of anything.
Said, crappy gifts are crappy, and one would think after such a good year CCP could have put in some effort |

Xavier Higdon
Wolfbane Hauler Inc
240
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Posted - 2013.12.25 03:37:00 -
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Who cares what you think, OP? Your blog is something you do for yourself, in a sad attempt to negate your insignificance. Your streaming is the same, though it's not nearly as good as the streams of others(this is speculation, as I've never bothered to watch any of your streams). Your donation to the PFG event is appreciated, though bragging about it is just another attempt at gaining some kind of fame. And finally, the only content I've seen from you are your forum posts, which can hardly be called content and should probably be called pointless drivel from an insignificant person longing to be noticed. You should be happy you received a shuttle, since, having contributed nothing, you don't deserve anything in return. Being a non-entity is not a point of pride for most so congratulations for being one of the few to make it so. Wolfbane Hauler Inc Looking For Combat And Industrial Pilots |

Haygrove
Sturmgrenadier Inc
19
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Posted - 2013.12.25 03:37:00 -
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Thatt Guy wrote:Haygrove wrote:You are "entitled" to nothing. Your assumption that you are makes you just look like mommies lil' princess... and I don't care if you are a guy or not.... but who knows with an avatar like yours. Never said I was "entitled" to anything... Just said CCP did a crappy job this year.
Believing that they should have given you anything better or anything at all is an act of "Entitlement Syndrome". CCP could always have done "better" but doing so would have likely ruined the game for a great many people for something that amounts to a single shot event. The game dynamics have not really changed and we all got to participate in a neat event that exposed most of us to a new form of culture. It was all voluntary and had a form of enticement that you get when you gamble. That is it. Really anything else would have changed things so dynamically within Eve Online as to cause an outcry in the other direction and by a lot more people. |

Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 03:41:00 -
[33] - Quote
Xavier Higdon wrote: a bunch of personal attack drivel
because that has anything to do with anything |

Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 03:43:00 -
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Haygrove wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:Haygrove wrote:You are "entitled" to nothing. Your assumption that you are makes you just look like mommies lil' princess... and I don't care if you are a guy or not.... but who knows with an avatar like yours. Never said I was "entitled" to anything... Just said CCP did a crappy job this year. Believing that they should have given you anything better or anything at all is an act of "Entitlement Syndrome". CCP could always have done "better" but doing so would have likely ruined the game for a great many people for something that amounts to a single shot event. The game dynamics have not really changed and we all got to participate in a neat event that exposed most of us to a new form of culture. It was all voluntary and had a form of enticement that you get when you gamble. That is it. Really anything else would have changed things so dynamically within Eve Online as to cause an outcry in the other direction and by a lot more people.
Cause they "ruined the game" last year and the year before that and for the 10 year anniversary - gnosis
 |

EI Digin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1485
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Posted - 2013.12.25 03:43:00 -
[35] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:EI Digin wrote:So out of all of these great events that we participated in, what did you do to deserve anything out of it? I don't know, took part in all of them? Wrote blogs/streamed the events? Created content for players and viewers? Pick one.
An awful lot of talk for an NPC alt |

Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
831
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 03:44:00 -
[36] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Thatt Guy wrote: Actually I gave because I had space-money that could help out in RL, but that doesn't change the fact that CCP will use this for years to come as a point of pride and advertising.
Would it have really been that hard to make the gifts something good, or even special? Remap CA implants Anything other than t1 junk And a shuttle as the big reveal?... please
/effort
This is irrelevant. If you give, then genuinely give. Not as some moral collateral, leverage or something to hold over someones head. It entitled you to none of the stuff you wanted, nor to any of the things you actually got. And just as with all the prior gift ships this is special in that it is unique and limited in quantity and similarly function. The only exception being a ship given out to celebrate 10 years of EvE's existence, something similarly unnecessary on CCP's part. Technically this shuttle is better in function than the 5 year gift shuttle despite that being a milestone more worthy of recognition for the game. Please learn to read, never said entitled, never said deserved because of anything. Said, crappy gifts are crappy, and one would think after such a good year CCP could have put in some effort You didn't have to say it. It's incredibly clear from the logic presented. You stated things that you felt were done for CCP as justifications for your complaints. You did NOT just say the gifts were crap, though that was there in addition to your exclamation of a great year for CCP and directly related it to your complaint about the gifts. It's right in the OP for all to read, that you feel some ingratitude from CCP despite what was done by the players. That statement is directly equivalent to stating you felt owed something for those acts, else there was no reason for your disappointment being compared to the action of the players. |

Aiwha
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
623
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 03:44:00 -
[37] - Quote
Can I have his shuttle?
Contract all unwanted shuttles to me. We're winning the war if it says so on CAOD! -á
|

Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 03:50:00 -
[38] - Quote
Tyberius Franklin wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Thatt Guy wrote: Actually I gave because I had space-money that could help out in RL, but that doesn't change the fact that CCP will use this for years to come as a point of pride and advertising.
Would it have really been that hard to make the gifts something good, or even special? Remap CA implants Anything other than t1 junk And a shuttle as the big reveal?... please
/effort
This is irrelevant. If you give, then genuinely give. Not as some moral collateral, leverage or something to hold over someones head. It entitled you to none of the stuff you wanted, nor to any of the things you actually got. And just as with all the prior gift ships this is special in that it is unique and limited in quantity and similarly function. The only exception being a ship given out to celebrate 10 years of EvE's existence, something similarly unnecessary on CCP's part. Technically this shuttle is better in function than the 5 year gift shuttle despite that being a milestone more worthy of recognition for the game. Please learn to read, never said entitled, never said deserved because of anything. Said, crappy gifts are crappy, and one would think after such a good year CCP could have put in some effort You didn't have to say it. It's incredibly clear from the logic presented. You stated things that you felt were done for CCP as justifications for your complaints. You did NOT just say the gifts were crap, though that was there in addition to your exclamation of a great year for CCP and directly related it to your complaint about the gifts. It's right in the OP for all to read, that you feel some ingratitude from CCP despite what was done by the players. That statement is directly equivalent to stating you felt owed something for those acts, else there was no reason for your disappointment being compared to the action of the players.
This is how you post! +1 point to you sir didn't really think of it that way.
Still you have to admit, compared to years past, this year was pretty crappy. |

Qweasdy
Absolute Massive Destruction Cult of War
47
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Posted - 2013.12.25 03:52:00 -
[39] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:Haygrove wrote:You are "entitled" to nothing. Your assumption that you are makes you just look like mommies lil' princess... and I don't care if you are a guy or not.... but who knows with an avatar like yours. Never said I was "entitled" to anything... Just said CCP didn't give me what I felt I am entitled to.
Fixed. |

Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 03:54:00 -
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Qweasdy wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:Haygrove wrote:You are "entitled" to nothing. Your assumption that you are makes you just look like mommies lil' princess... and I don't care if you are a guy or not.... but who knows with an avatar like yours. Never said I was "entitled" to anything... Just said CCP didn't give me what I felt I am entitled to. Fixed.
Thanks for your addition to this discussion... |

Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
832
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 03:55:00 -
[41] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:Cause they "ruined the game" last year and the year before that and for the 10 year anniversary - gnosis  Christmas 2011 was pretty much a further continuation of Incarna related apologies and incentive to return Christmas 2012 was a number of historical items in the months leading into the 10th anniversary of the game as CCP was already eagerly in high spirits preparing for the formal celebration. The culminated with the gnosis so far as gifts, but wasn't isolated to it.
Thatt Guy wrote:Still you have to admit, compared to years past, this year was pretty crappy. For the reasons stated above I do not expect 2011/2012 levels of celebration regularly. 2009 I got shuttle with an unbonused probe launcher. 2010 if I recall was a frigate with 1 slot and s dedicated hacking mod with an interesting reprocess result, which I have stored with the Fedo I received.
Smaller the shuttle is, but probably more functional in that ship classes role than any other Christmas gift ship. As such, I can't say they really skimped, nor do I mind what was effectively "stocking stuffer" style gifts leading up to it. |

Vembuvend
State War Academy Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2013.12.25 03:55:00 -
[42] - Quote
Katran Luftschreck wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:Please fly your "untouchable" shuttle in jita, or take it through the rancer pocket and we'll see how "untouchable" it is. ... well considering that before I used to use shuttles to zip in and out of losec all the time. Never had a problem. Only ships small enough to lock a shuttle before it's in warp are the ones small enough for the gate guns to actually nuke. The ships big enough to tank the gate guns were too slow to lock my shuttle. And that's a basic shuttle. Ok in theory someone could certainly tweak a cruiser or whatever for max lock speed, but then they sacrifice the all important DPS and tank. No one I ever saw went that route, and I don't blame them. Besides, only ten year old "lulz" nitwits would even care in the first place. Now multiply that by "Leopard" and again, as I said before, you're a ghost. They'd have better luck trying to tag a covert ops ship. And Jita? It's a shuttle, not a freighter. You're getting your ships confused. Rancer? Maybe, but I honestly don't give a crap about Rancer so who cares? Oh, and this is the part where you try to convince me that you're actually just the alt of some uberskilled Titan pilot with trillions of ISK and quadrillions of SP who's seen, done and knows everything about everything. Well kids, I'm not a pro. And that's my point. These things are simple. So simple, in fact, that even a novice like me can pull it off. So spare us the e-peen ego trip. This is EvE and there's always a bigger ego than yours out there who can spout even more bragging BS about how leet they are. This isn't about leet. This is about running like a bunny and not getting caught. And the Leopard is very, very good at this. So I like it. Remote.... Sensor.... Boosters
^ You can catch even cloakies. |

Bel Tika
Dirty Rotten Scoundrel's Not.Safe.For.Work.
79
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 04:05:00 -
[43] - Quote
I appreciate them but whatever, have a good christmas regardless ;) |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
3488
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 04:09:00 -
[44] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:12 days of random junk then a shuttle?
REALLY??
Here's the thing. CCP hates you and gave out crap to make you quit. Unfortunately, they hate you so much that we all had to suffer for it.
So make it a good Christmas for the rest of us and click the biomass button for all your accts.
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |

Qweasdy
Absolute Massive Destruction Cult of War
47
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 04:11:00 -
[45] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:Qweasdy wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:Haygrove wrote:You are "entitled" to nothing. Your assumption that you are makes you just look like mommies lil' princess... and I don't care if you are a guy or not.... but who knows with an avatar like yours. Never said I was "entitled" to anything... Just said CCP didn't give me what I felt I am entitled to. Fixed. Thanks for your addition to this discussion... 
What discussion? This is a whine thread, take a step back and look at what you've been saying and accept it. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
7178
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 04:11:00 -
[46] - Quote
Pointless reply to a guy several posts above. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |

Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 04:13:00 -
[47] - Quote
Mr Epeen wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:12 days of random junk then a shuttle?
REALLY??
I disagree with you so you should leave... WAAAAAA!!! Mr Epeen 
Grow up |

Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 04:14:00 -
[48] - Quote
Qweasdy wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:Qweasdy wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:Haygrove wrote:You are "entitled" to nothing. Your assumption that you are makes you just look like mommies lil' princess... and I don't care if you are a guy or not.... but who knows with an avatar like yours. Never said I was "entitled" to anything... Just said CCP didn't give me what I felt I am entitled to. Fixed. Thanks for your addition to this discussion...  What discussion? This is a whine thread, take a step back and look at what you've been saying and accept it.
Well now that YOU said so... |

Qweasdy
Absolute Massive Destruction Cult of War
47
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 04:16:00 -
[49] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:12 days of random junk then a shuttle?
REALLY??
I disagree with you so you should leave... WAAAAAA!!! Mr Epeen  Grow up
Coming from someone who has nothing better to do at 4 am GMT on the 25th of December than complain on the internet about his virtual gifts being insubstantial? |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
7178
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 04:18:00 -
[50] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:12 days of random junk then a shuttle?
REALLY??
I disagree with you so you should leave... WAAAAAA!!! Mr Epeen  Grow up If irony were painful you wouldn't be able to post at this point. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |

Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 04:18:00 -
[51] - Quote
Qweasdy wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:12 days of random junk then a shuttle?
REALLY??
I disagree with you so you should leave... WAAAAAA!!! Mr Epeen  Grow up Coming from someone who has nothing better to do at 4 am GMT on the 25th of December than complain on the internet about his virtual gifts being insubstantial?
because there is only 1 timezone, and I couldn't possibly be doing other things at the same time... |

Katran Luftschreck
Stillwater Corporation
1778
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 04:20:00 -
[52] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:Everything
Highlighted the important part, because you have no idea what your talking about. Also, your grammar sucks. Please go back to real life school. Thanks.
Nullsec in a Nutshell: http://nedroid.com/comics/2006-08-24-2155-arrrdino.gif |

Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 04:23:00 -
[53] - Quote
Katran Luftschreck wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:Everything Highlighted the important part, because you have no idea what your talking about. Also, your grammar sucks. Please go back to real life school. Thanks.
Oh no, he insulted my grammar..... can't take it.....gonna cry....
 |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
7178
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 04:25:00 -
[54] - Quote
This is a really good time to mention that Retribution wasn't the expansion I thought it was. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |

Qweasdy
Absolute Massive Destruction Cult of War
48
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 04:26:00 -
[55] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:~snip cause clutter~ because there is only 1 timezone, and I couldn't possibly be doing other things at the same time... 
I did mention the timezone for a reason, anyways if you can think of a single reason that isn't you've not been naughty this year and should get more prezzies and until you do you'll have your little tantrum (thread) on the forums I might have this 'discussion' you mentioned.
Until then toodloo, I'm done imposing my words of wisdom on this marvelous totally not whiny thread. |

Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
833
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 04:31:00 -
[56] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:If irony were painful you wouldn't be able to post at this point. Not sure what to make of your certainty regarding the target area of theoretical irony pains. |

Arthur Aihaken
The.VOID
2638
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 04:32:00 -
[57] - Quote
Knights Armament wrote:... and so would ccp mintchip greeting cards.
GǪ  I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |

Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 04:45:00 -
[58] - Quote
Arthur Aihaken wrote:Knights Armament wrote:... and so would ccp mintchip greeting cards.  GǪ 
What said card might look like... Linky
 |

Katran Luftschreck
Stillwater Corporation
1778
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 04:48:00 -
[59] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:Oh no, he insulted my grammar..... can't take it.....gonna cry.... 
I wasn't insulting your grammar. I was insulting your intelligence as a whole... or rather your lack thereof. Shall I move on to your face, next? Or your simplistic mentality? Your pathetic self-righteousness born from a crippling sense of insecurity that drives you to become a 3rd rate internet troll, because that's the only place where you can spew your venom without fear that someone will just slap the acne right off of your fifteen year old face? Or should I spare you from pointing out that you are the most absolutely common, generic, bland type of walking human sadness that pollutes the planet with their presence? That there is nothing special, nothing original, and absolutely nothing important about any aspect of your existence and that when that existence finally comes to it's natural end many years from now that absolutely no one on this planet will even notice, let alone care?
Should I do that?
And why would I say those things? To get the ISD to lock the thread and, through that, put an end your spoiled, bratty whine-a-thon. A clever tactic, yes?
Oh and "tactics" - look it up sometime. Nullsec in a Nutshell: http://nedroid.com/comics/2006-08-24-2155-arrrdino.gif |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
7178
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 04:48:00 -
[60] - Quote
Katran Luftschreck wrote:Unlike nullsec, where bots guard the gates 23/7 in task forces specifically designed for every contingency (read: catching anything that moves, regardless of size) Probably would have been easier for you just to say you've never been there. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17954
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 04:55:00 -
[61] - Quote
Again: what were you expecting?
What we've been given here is in line with what we've been given every christmas. In fact, the unusual usefulness of this year's gifts makes it above and beyond what we usually get. So what the hell are you whinging about other than your own inability to make use of the stuff and your inability to articulate anything that even remotely resembles a coherent complaint? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 04:56:00 -
[62] - Quote
Katran Luftschreck wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:Oh no, he insulted my grammar..... can't take it.....gonna cry....  I wasn't insulting your grammar. I was insulting your intelligence as a whole... or rather your lack thereof. Shall I move on to your face, next? Or your simplistic mentality? Your pathetic self-righteousness born from a crippling sense of insecurity that drives you to become a 3rd rate internet troll, because that's the only place where you can spew your venom without fear that someone will just slap the acne right off of your fifteen year old face? Or should I spare you from pointing out that you are the most absolutely common, generic, bland type of walking human sadness that pollutes the planet with their presence? That there is nothing special, nothing original, and absolutely nothing important about any aspect of your existence and that when that existence finally comes to it's natural end many years from now that absolutely no one on this planet will even notice, let alone care? Should I do that? And why would I say those things? To get the ISD to lock the thread and, through that, put an end your spoiled, bratty whine-a-thon. A clever tactic, yes? Oh and "tactics" - look it up sometime.
So... hurt... must cry...
P.S. you need a time machine to go back to my 15 year old acne covered face, and watch out, I wasn't anywhere near as stable as I am now  |

Katran Luftschreck
Stillwater Corporation
1778
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 04:56:00 -
[63] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:Probably would have been easier for you just to say you've never been there.
I've been there. The reason you're not seeing me on a nullsec killboard is because I wasn't caught. Of course I admit this was pure luck and it was probably just pure lag that let me slip past. Once inside it was a lot easier to dodge, because it's just the occasional gate Falcons and warp bubbles in predictable places once you get past the initial gate camps. I avoided straight-line jumping and made it back out alive, to my own surprise as much as anyone's.
However, you can choose to believe whatever you want. It doesn't change reality.
Thatt Guy wrote:P.S. you need a time machine to go back to my 15 year old acne covered face, and watch out, I wasn't anywhere near as stable as I am now 
Yes, and I will set my time machine for three years into the future. Nullsec in a Nutshell: http://nedroid.com/comics/2006-08-24-2155-arrrdino.gif |

Anomaly One
141
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 04:59:00 -
[64] - Quote
I like the avatar clothes the most, thanks CCP! Never forget. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8sfaN8zT8E http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l_ZjVyRxx4 Trust me, I'm an Anomaly. DUST 514 FOR PC |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
7178
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 05:00:00 -
[65] - Quote
Gatecamps are pretty rare in null. About the only places you find them usually are heavily traversed choke points to empire, and occasionally around staging systems. And nobody bots them - there's no point, it would be boring, and it gets you banned.
You're the one who's chosen to hold beliefs contrary to reality based upon a pretty short exposure. I live there. I know what goes on. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |

Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 05:01:00 -
[66] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Again: what were you expecting?
What we've been given here is in line with what we've been given every christmas. In fact, the unusual usefulness of this year's gifts makes it above and beyond what we usually get. So what the hell are you whinging about other than your own inability to make use of the stuff and your inability to articulate anything that even remotely resembles a coherent complaint?
Oh noes.. big words.... um.... um... crap!
Sorry I offend the fanboys who think CCP can do no wrong.
I'm not "articulate" enough to express my thoughts so.. I'll stop "whinging" now.
 |

I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
848
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 05:01:00 -
[67] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:12 days of random junk then a shuttle?
REALLY??
Way to treat your customers after a great year:
Largest battle in Eve history. - made news out of game (free publicity)
Largest isk lost battle in eve history. - made news out of game (free publicity)
Raising $190k for Plex for good - (World news, and even got you a meeting with the president of Iceland) (MEGA publicity)
All of that just for you to skimp out on x-mas and give out worthless junk.
Worst x-mas ever CCP.
Whiners will always whine. Hate to see what you're like in real life OP if you're whining over some gifts in a game. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
7178
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 05:03:00 -
[68] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:Sorry I offend the fanboys who think CCP can do no wrong. ...Quite a few people here, including Tippia and myself, have been very vocal critics of CCP. It's not warranted here. You're just stupid. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |

Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 05:04:00 -
[69] - Quote
I Love Boobies wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:12 days of random junk then a shuttle?
REALLY??
Way to treat your customers after a great year:
Largest battle in Eve history. - made news out of game (free publicity)
Largest isk lost battle in eve history. - made news out of game (free publicity)
Raising $190k for Plex for good - (World news, and even got you a meeting with the president of Iceland) (MEGA publicity)
All of that just for you to skimp out on x-mas and give out worthless junk.
Worst x-mas ever CCP. Whiners will always whine. Hate to see what you're like in real life OP if you're whining over some gifts in a game.
That means a lot coming from someone named "I love boobies" 
|

Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 05:06:00 -
[70] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:Sorry I offend the fanboys who think CCP can do no wrong. ...Quite a few people here, including Tippia and myself, have been very vocal critics of CCP. It's not warranted here. You're just stupid.
/goons  |

Na Kahm
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
19
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 05:09:00 -
[71] - Quote
wish we could block asshats on the forums
also IB4L cause you'll know it will happen John 17 : 23 |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17954
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 05:09:00 -
[72] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:Sorry I offend the fanboys who think CCP can do no wrong.
I'm not "articulate" enough to express my thoughts so.. I'll stop "whinging" now. So you can't actually answer the question, I take it? What were you expecting?
Na Kahm wrote: wish we could block asshats on the forums You can. Fold down the little menu under their name GåÆ hide posts. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
7178
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 05:09:00 -
[73] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:Sorry I offend the fanboys who think CCP can do no wrong. ...Quite a few people here, including Tippia and myself, have been very vocal critics of CCP. It's not warranted here. You're just stupid. /goons  I do enjoy how you're taking the time to respond to everyone personally. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |

Qweasdy
Absolute Massive Destruction Cult of War
50
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 05:10:00 -
[74] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:Tippia wrote:Again: what were you expecting?
What we've been given here is in line with what we've been given every christmas. In fact, the unusual usefulness of this year's gifts makes it above and beyond what we usually get. So what the hell are you whinging about other than your own inability to make use of the stuff and your inability to articulate anything that even remotely resembles a coherent complaint? Oh noes.. big words.... um.... um... crap! Sorry I offend the fanboys who think CCP can do no wrong. I'm not "articulate" enough to express my thoughts so.. I'll stop "whinging" now. 
Hi it's me again, I know you missed me and all. Now I did say I was gone from this thread but frankly I lied... consider it the dramatic exit without the 'exit'.
You realize how terrible of a reply that was to a legitimate argument? Like even worse than this one and that's saying something... Again struggling to see this 'discussion' you are having. |

Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
44
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 05:11:00 -
[75] - Quote
Na Kahm wrote: wish we could block asshats on the frums
Just don't read or reply to it?
|

Felicity Love
Nighthawk Exploration
1104
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 05:12:00 -
[76] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:12 days of random junk then a shuttle?
REALLY??
You obviously missed the cake... and group hugs. 
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |

Na Kahm
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
19
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 05:13:00 -
[77] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:Na Kahm wrote: wish we could block asshats on the frums Just don't read or reply to it?
better yet, why don't you BIOMASS yourself and bug you parents more
John 17 : 23 |

Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
44
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 05:15:00 -
[78] - Quote
Qweasdy wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:Tippia wrote:Again: what were you expecting?
What we've been given here is in line with what we've been given every christmas. In fact, the unusual usefulness of this year's gifts makes it above and beyond what we usually get. So what the hell are you whinging about other than your own inability to make use of the stuff and your inability to articulate anything that even remotely resembles a coherent complaint? Oh noes.. big words.... um.... um... crap! Sorry I offend the fanboys who think CCP can do no wrong. I'm not "articulate" enough to express my thoughts so.. I'll stop "whinging" now.  Hi it's me again, I know you missed me and all. Now I did say I was gone from this thread but frankly I lied... consider it the dramatic exit without the 'exit'. You realize how terrible of a reply that was to a legitimate argument? Like even worse than this one and that's saying something... Again struggling to see this 'discussion' you are having.
So THAT is a legitimate argument but me thinking CCP's gifts are crap isn't? What have you added to the discussion other than insults?
Crappy gifts are crappy. Disagree fine, want to express that disagreement, great. When all you can do to disagree is insult people, you have no argument. |

Qweasdy
Absolute Massive Destruction Cult of War
50
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 05:16:00 -
[79] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:That means a lot coming from someone named "I love boobies" 
And what's wrong with his? I'm sure his name accurately reflects his love of breasts. |

Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
44
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 05:16:00 -
[80] - Quote
Na Kahm wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:Na Kahm wrote: wish we could block asshats on the frums Just don't read or reply to it? better yet, why don't you BIOMASS yourself and bug you parents more
Or... I could post about it on the forums made to discuss stuff? |

Na Kahm
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
19
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 05:17:00 -
[81] - Quote
P.S. you need a time machine to go back to my 15 year old acne covered face, and watch out, I wasn't anywhere near as stable as I am now [:=d wrote:
o lord, I for one don't think you are anywhere stable now, as in you are missing 5 cents from a penny
John 17 : 23 |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17954
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 05:18:00 -
[82] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:So THAT is a legitimate argument but me thinking CCP's gifts are crap isn't? Yes. Largely because saying they're GÇ£crapGÇ¥ is meaningless. What's crap about them? What were you expecting?
Quote:When all you can do to disagree is insult people, you have no argument. So you agree that you have no argument then. That explains why you can't answer a simple question.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
45
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 05:18:00 -
[83] - Quote
Qweasdy wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:That means a lot coming from someone named "I love boobies"  And what's wrong with his? I'm sure his name accurately reflects his love of breasts.
Your totally right, that name doesn't sound immature at all.  |

Qweasdy
Absolute Massive Destruction Cult of War
50
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 05:18:00 -
[84] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:Qweasdy wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:Tippia wrote:Again: what were you expecting?
What we've been given here is in line with what we've been given every christmas. In fact, the unusual usefulness of this year's gifts makes it above and beyond what we usually get. So what the hell are you whinging about other than your own inability to make use of the stuff and your inability to articulate anything that even remotely resembles a coherent complaint? Oh noes.. big words.... um.... um... crap! Sorry I offend the fanboys who think CCP can do no wrong. I'm not "articulate" enough to express my thoughts so.. I'll stop "whinging" now.  Hi it's me again, I know you missed me and all. Now I did say I was gone from this thread but frankly I lied... consider it the dramatic exit without the 'exit'. You realize how terrible of a reply that was to a legitimate argument? Like even worse than this one and that's saying something... Again struggling to see this 'discussion' you are having. So THAT is a legitimate argument but me thinking CCP's gifts are crap isn't? What have you added to the discussion other than insults? Crappy gifts are crappy. Disagree fine, want to express that disagreement, great. When all you can do to disagree is insult people, you have no argument.
No calling CCP gifts crap is not a legitimate argument as to why CCPs gifts were crap. It's rather hard to come up with a counterargument to someone with no arguments...
|

Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
45
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 05:20:00 -
[85] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:So THAT is a legitimate argument but me thinking CCP's gifts are crap isn't? Yes. Largely because saying they're GÇ£crapGÇ¥ is meaningless. What's crap about them? What were you expecting? Quote:When all you can do to disagree is insult people, you have no argument. So you agree that you have no argument then. That explains why you can't answer a simple question.
What's crap about them? T1 junk and a shuttle.
What were you expecting? CCP to actually put in some :effort: instead of letting a RNG decide crap t1 junk.
That help you at all? |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17954
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 05:24:00 -
[86] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:What's crap about them? T1 junk and a shuttle. Yes (actually, no, but I'm being nice here and letting that slide)? And what's crap about them?
Quote:What were you expecting? CCP to actually put in some :effort: instead of letting a RNG decide crap t1 junk. You mean like picking out a thematic set of components that you can put to use for various fun purposes? You mean like redesigning old rare items and handing them out? You mean like designing a new shuttle and handing it out? You mean like giving a little show and story behind the whole thing?
You got exactly what you were expecting. So why are you whinging again?
Quote:That help you at all? No, because you're hoping that repeating the same meaningless platitude will create depth and meaning to it. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Qweasdy
Absolute Massive Destruction Cult of War
51
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 05:27:00 -
[87] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:Tippia wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:So THAT is a legitimate argument but me thinking CCP's gifts are crap isn't? Yes. Largely because saying they're GÇ£crapGÇ¥ is meaningless. What's crap about them? What were you expecting? Quote:When all you can do to disagree is insult people, you have no argument. So you agree that you have no argument then. That explains why you can't answer a simple question. What's crap about them? T1 junk and a shuttle. What were you expecting? CCP to actually put in some :effort: instead of letting a RNG decide crap t1 junk. That help you at all?
They put plenty of effort in, <3 my fedo, you just seem upset that you cannot gain a monetary advantage from your gifts... also I was really pleased about the shuttle, when I first saw the item on sisi in the depths of the market and unavailable for sale I didn't actually think I'd be able to get my hands on one unless I payed through the nose or took part in some sort of event. |

I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
852
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 05:29:00 -
[88] - Quote
Na Kahm wrote: wish we could block asshats on the forums also IB4L cause you'll know it will happen 
Click the little dropdown arrow by a person's name under their avatar, click hide posts.  |

Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
45
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 05:29:00 -
[89] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:What's crap about them? T1 junk and a shuttle. Yes (actually, no, but I'm being nice here and letting that slide)? And what's crap about them? Quote:What were you expecting? CCP to actually put in some :effort: instead of letting a RNG decide crap t1 junk. You mean like picking out a thematic set of components that you can put to use for various fun purposes? You mean like redesigning old rare items and handing them out? You mean like designing a new shuttle and handing it out? You mean like giving a little show and story behind the whole thing? You got exactly what you were expecting. So why are you whinging again? Quote:That help you at all? No, because you're hoping that repeating the same meaningless platitude will create depth and meaning to it.
Well I guess this is simple where our opinions differ.
Junk is junk.
A shuttle is a shuttle.
Fanboys will always defend their game.
No amount of insults, or personal attacks will change that.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17958
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Posted - 2013.12.25 05:33:00 -
[90] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:Junk is junk. A shuttle is a shuttle. GǪand the difference is that you are unable to articulate what makes it GǣjunkGǥ or why it's bad that a shuttle is a shuttle.
Again: what's crap about them? What were you expecting? What on earth would have lived up to your unstated demands? Articulate your complaint!
Quote:No amount of insults, or personal attacks will change that. So why are you trying to use a tactic you know will fail? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Qweasdy
Absolute Massive Destruction Cult of War
51
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Posted - 2013.12.25 05:34:00 -
[91] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:Tippia wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:What's crap about them? T1 junk and a shuttle. Yes (actually, no, but I'm being nice here and letting that slide)? And what's crap about them? Quote:What were you expecting? CCP to actually put in some :effort: instead of letting a RNG decide crap t1 junk. You mean like picking out a thematic set of components that you can put to use for various fun purposes? You mean like redesigning old rare items and handing them out? You mean like designing a new shuttle and handing it out? You mean like giving a little show and story behind the whole thing? You got exactly what you were expecting. So why are you whinging again? Quote:That help you at all? No, because you're hoping that repeating the same meaningless platitude will create depth and meaning to it. Well I guess this is simple where our opinions differ. Junk is junk. A shuttle is a shuttle. Fanboys will always defend their game. No amount of insults, or personal attacks will change that.
Please point to the personal attacks from tippia. Now I may not be able to refrain from sarcastic derogatory remarks when faced with the sheer whineyness of this thread but Tippia is clearly a stronger person than I, and for that I salute him. o7 |

Na Kahm
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
22
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Posted - 2013.12.25 05:35:00 -
[92] - Quote
I Love Boobies wrote:Na Kahm wrote: wish we could block asshats on the forums also IB4L cause you'll know it will happen  Click the little dropdown arrow by a person's name under their avatar, click hide posts. 
THANKS never noticed that
John 17 : 23 |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5352
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Posted - 2013.12.25 05:36:00 -
[93] - Quote
I was actually going to say I'm pretty sure this is a troll at work. ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
There are no goons. The goons; 0.0 dream is over. |

Qweasdy
Absolute Massive Destruction Cult of War
51
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Posted - 2013.12.25 05:38:00 -
[94] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:I was actually going to say I'm pretty sure this is a troll at work.
Quite probably, but I quite genuinely have nothing better to do right now :D
EDIT: using 'quite' makes you sound 35.9% more sophisticated, fact. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17958
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Posted - 2013.12.25 05:38:00 -
[95] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:I was actually going to say I'm pretty sure this is a troll at work. Of course it is. Few things exposes it as constantly grinding away at its failure to articulate its case.  GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Ptraci
3 R Corporation Boarderline Cartel
1476
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Posted - 2013.12.25 05:38:00 -
[96] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:12 days of random junk then a shuttle?
REALLY??
Worst x-mas ever CCP.
How is this post not a rant? Seriously, CCP don't have to give you anything at all. As for the largest fleet battle, the "reward" for that was just being part of it. I don't think anyone was doing it to give CCP "publicity". It was an "I was there" moment.
Seriously why do you think that CCP owes you anything at all? You pay a monthly subscription, you get access to the game. A game which CCP constantly strives to improve and modify with varying degrees of success. What more do you want? |

Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
45
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Posted - 2013.12.25 05:40:00 -
[97] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:I was actually going to say I'm pretty sure this is a troll at work. Of course it is. Few things exposes it as constantly grinding away at its failure to articulate its case. 
Because no one would ever disagree with the "fine upstanding" people in this thread?
Please. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17958
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Posted - 2013.12.25 05:41:00 -
[98] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:Because no one would ever disagree with the "fine upstanding" people in this thread? Plenty do, all the time. They're just (occasionally) capable of articulating their disagreement.
So, again: what's crap about them? What were you expecting, considering what we've been given on previous occasions? What on earth would have lived up to your unstated demands? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Rianne Severasse
The Scope Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.12.25 05:49:00 -
[99] - Quote
Sounds like somebody is bitter that the Yule Lads left them a rotten potato . . .  |

Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
45
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Posted - 2013.12.25 05:50:00 -
[100] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Thatt Guy wrote:Because no one would ever disagree with the "fine upstanding" people in this thread? Plenty do, all the time. They're just (occasionally) capable of articulating their disagreement. So, again: what's crap about them? What were you expecting? What on earth would have lived up to your unstated demands?
Ok. I'll try 1 more time.
What's crap about them? It's randomized t1 junk. Stuff few people will actually use. (and before the "well I fit the mining upgrade!' good for you READ: few)
What were you expecting? Stuff inline with previous years, novelty items, collectables ect. (READ: not high isk value or titans, remember the donut holder?)
What on earth would have lived up to your unstated demands? Exactly, I never stated demands, that's something you have introduced to this thread not I.
I said "Crappy gifts are crappy" random junk stuff = crappy A shuttle (while it is special, and goes fast) is still a shuttle. |

Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
45
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Posted - 2013.12.25 05:52:00 -
[101] - Quote
Rianne Severasse wrote:Sounds like somebody is bitter that the Yule Lads left them a rotten potato . . . 
a rotten potato would have been cool compared to light ecm drones, or a cargo expander, or a t1 probe launcher |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17958
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Posted - 2013.12.25 05:57:00 -
[102] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:It's randomized t1 junk. Stuff few people will actually use. (and before the "well I fit the mining upgrade!' good for you READ: few) No, it's not just randomized T1 junk; no it's not something few people will use. It's free materials, free T2 stuff, free collectibles, free ISK and free AUR. How is it junk when it is all universally useful for anyone who redeemed it?
Or is it just that you, specifically, can't figure out what to do with it?
Quote:What were you expecting? Stuff inline with previous years, novelty items, collectables ect. So the exact same thing as we got this year, then.
Or are you just not familiar with what we got the previous years?
Quote:What on earth would have lived up to your unstated demands? Exactly, I never stated demands, that's something you have introduced to this thread not I. No, it's something you have had all along and which you've compared this stuff against to categorise it as GÇ£junkGÇ¥ GÇö a categorisation that is meaningless without a useful point of comparison. Now that you've provided that point of comparison, we can conclude that you're simply wrong, which explains why you were so unwilling to give it up.
Quote:I said "Crappy gifts are crappy" random junk stuff = crappy A shuttle (while it is special, and goes fast) is still a shuttle. None of it is junk; none of it is random; all of it is useful; most of it is novelty stuff and collectables; the shuttle is the same kind of ship that we've been given on every other occasion. Your complaint is uninformed, self-contradictory, and nonsensical. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
7183
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Posted - 2013.12.25 06:00:00 -
[103] - Quote
Tyberius Franklin wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:If irony were painful you wouldn't be able to post at this point. Not sure what to make of your certainty regarding the target area of theoretical irony pains. Never mentioned anything about area, merely that he'd be in so much pain he would be unable to do anything but writhe on the ground. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |

Guttripper
State War Academy Caldari State
403
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Posted - 2013.12.25 06:00:00 -
[104] - Quote
I guess the "It's the thought that counts." has been phased out of today's society. |

Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
45
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Posted - 2013.12.25 06:07:00 -
[105] - Quote
Tippia wrote: tried to reword everything you said to make in more inline with your own opinion
Just FYI: the shuttle (it's still a shuttle) the fedo (novelty/collectable) ::These are the only rare items that weren't in-game pre yule lads:: (these are cool, other than the shuttle being a shuttle)
+ launcher and snowballs
Tell me again how "most" of the stuff was rare/collectable
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17958
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Posted - 2013.12.25 06:13:00 -
[106] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:the shuttle (it's still a shuttle) GǪwith a unique twist, same as previous years.
Quote:the fedo (novelty/collectable) GǪand snowballs and launchers, same as previous years (you know that the Fedo was already in the game, right?)
Quote:Tell me again how "most" of the stuff was rare/collectable I take it you never actually looked at what the lads were that gave you the stuff, even if it was just semi-common commodities.
So, again, you got exactly what you were expecting, and a whole bunch of useful stuff on top of it. So your whinging simply doesn't make any sense even using your own stipulations. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Logical 101
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
52
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Posted - 2013.12.25 06:19:00 -
[107] - Quote
6 pages of troll food.
Amazing stuff. Must be tasty. |

Karrl Tian
Bourbon Bandits Anarchy.
282
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Posted - 2013.12.25 06:21:00 -
[108] - Quote
Gimme. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
7183
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 06:25:00 -
[109] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:Tippia wrote: tried to reword everything you said to make in more inline with your own opinion Just FYI: the shuttle (it's still a shuttle) It's a shuttle that warps faster than anything else in the game. Even after T2 hyperspatial rigs and the best implant combo (Ascendancy 1-5 and WS-618) an interceptor still only warps at 19.7 AU/s. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
84
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Posted - 2013.12.25 06:32:00 -
[110] - Quote
lolz ... until today only my main with interceptor skills could travel anywhere in a reasonable time and that required an interceptor with hyper rigs just to get 12 AU/sec. The shuttle is awesome for anyone with low skill alts :D
It's not clear what sort of more advanced ship could be handed out without being unbalanced in the hands of newer players anyway.
As for the "free publicity" to be honest all this talk of ISK destroyed and biggest space battles this year seems to have turned more people off EVE than anything else. The perception out there is it a game specifically aimed at antisocial psychopathic types who have no real life and just play EVE all day and act like hoods from some sort of street gang :D
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Rianne Severasse
The Scope Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.12.25 06:34:00 -
[111] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:Rianne Severasse wrote:Sounds like somebody is bitter that the Yule Lads left them a rotten potato . . .  a rotten potato would have been cool compared to light ecm drones, or a cargo expander, or a t1 probe launcher
Okay, I'll give you that. As a unique item to people with negative security status a rotten potato would be neat. Along with the good EVE players getting a unique and useless item in return (like that fedo, perhaps).
Honestly, I've seen these gifts over the last 13 days as akin to those cruddy presents you get from your co-workers, usually from some 'secret Santa' bullshit everyone thinks is cute. Yeah, they aren't really flashy or even anything you'd ever want , but it's the thought that counts. And I did like the 'Yule Lads' theme. As one of those Ignorant Americans (tm) I thought it was neat to learn a bit about how other cultures celebrate Christmas.
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Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
641
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Posted - 2013.12.25 06:49:00 -
[112] - Quote
Geez guys. The shuttle is actually far better of a present than a lot of stuff we've get for a while. Much like Zephyr (and a lot unlike reskinned T1 frigs or something), it has unique (if a bit limited) functionality so it's useful, people will fly them, they will pop from time to time, it's still limited issue ship so chances are, its price will go up if ship's value is all you are interested in.
For example, Zephyrs were peanuts when I was new, now they are almost the cost of a BC.
It's a great present, I don't see what's wrong with it.
I do think that seeding a lot of collectables to let people exchange them (like it was last year) is, perhaps, one of the most interesting ways to handle gifts, but what we've got this time is not bad at all too. Plus, I haven't know about Yule Lads mythos, and I do now. Btw, representations done by CCP guys were nothing short of great :) |

Aramatheia
Tiffany and Co.
148
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Posted - 2013.12.25 06:55:00 -
[113] - Quote
dear ccp next year do nothing, show this guy what he is entitled too.
better yet, randomly take 1 ship from everyone, show this guy what eve is all about, for real, what he really deserves |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
7183
|
Posted - 2013.12.25 06:56:00 -
[114] - Quote
Aramatheia wrote:dear ccp next year do nothing, show this guy what he is entitled too.
better yet, randomly take 1 ship from everyone, show this guy what eve is all about, for real, what he really deserves Take 1 ship from everyone because of this douchebag? What a wonderful idea. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |

Ria Nieyli
6
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Posted - 2013.12.25 07:16:00 -
[115] - Quote
Thatt Guy wrote:EI Digin wrote:So out of all of these great events that we participated in, what did you do to deserve anything out of it? I don't know, took part in all of them? Wrote blogs/streamed the events? Created content for players and viewers? Pick one.
What content did you exactly provide? Did you put new ships in the game, or new anything for that matter?
P.S. Biomass yourself. |
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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
764

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Posted - 2013.12.25 07:22:00 -
[116] - Quote
Quote:3. Ranting is prohibited.
A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counterproductive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents. Thread locked. ISD LackOfFaith Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department @ISD_LackOfFaith on Twitter |
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