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Precisionist
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Posted - 2006.03.13 00:28:00 -
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Hi's
4 Heavy Neutron or Electrons or Ions.. I am having trouble figuring this out :(
1 Med nos ? good choice?
Med's
MWD 7.5k scramb Web
Low
Med armor repairer
2 nano energized plats (All resists)
1 Exp Hardner?
And a Magnetic Field stabilizers for DMG
Advice, suggestions would be nice and appreciative.
I also heard that 5 valkrie drones are good for the job as drones go.
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Garreck
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Posted - 2006.03.13 00:30:00 -
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You're off to a fine start for a thorax. It's quite effective at killing pirates, so I should think it would do just fine in the piracy role as well.
Something you may want to consider is that if you fit heavy electrons, you can also fit an 800 plate (very much skill dependant) along with the rest of the "standard" thorax kit.
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Precisionist
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Posted - 2006.03.13 00:38:00 -
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800 Might be a good IDea but cant it slow u down alot more?
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Garreck
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Posted - 2006.03.13 00:46:00 -
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 Originally by: Precisionist
800 Might be a good IDea but cant it slow u down alot more?
Not significantly.
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Precisionist
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Posted - 2006.03.13 00:48:00 -
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ok
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Precisionist
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Posted - 2006.03.13 05:40:00 -
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Anyone else got comments or suggestions?
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Cairo dog
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Posted - 2006.03.13 07:22:00 -
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Tbh, I prefer the gank-a-rax which is:
4x Heavy Neutrons II (or modal in the case of t1)
10mn AB II, x5 prototype webber, 20km warp disruptor
1x Medium Armor Repairer II 3x Magnetic Field Stabiliser II's and 1x RCU
You do need advanced weapon upgrades 4 to fit this though.
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Xanta
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Posted - 2006.03.13 08:28:00 -
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i normaly use
5 ion (might have to mix ions and electron as i have max fitting skills)
mwd web scram
med rep, adaptive nano, 2 mag stab and a 400 plate
risky as the tank sucks but thats half the fun, 300 odd dps with t1 gear + drones
using all electrons should let you fit an 800 plate so you live a bit longer and you will hardly lose any damage
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Rells
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Posted - 2006.03.13 09:11:00 -
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Until you encounter a fleet of 6 frigs that have been through my course in which case you will be floating home in a pod if you are lucky.
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Butter Dog
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Posted - 2006.03.13 09:22:00 -
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Edited by: Butter Dog on 13/03/2006 09:22:46
When I'm flying a rax (my favourite cruiser) I fit as:
4 Ion Blasters, 1 Med Nos
MWD, 7.5k scram, Web
800 plate, explosuve hardener, kinetic and thermic membrane, medium rep
You get plenty of armour and strong resistances across the board. Its the perfect 'other cruiser killer'. And its damn effective against webbed AF's too.
You can take out poorly fitted battleships without a problem, which you probably encounter a lot of when pirating (unfortunately I only encounter well fitted ones :p)
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Freibeuter
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Posted - 2006.03.13 10:34:00 -
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Question:
Do heavy blasters have enough tracking speed to hit webbed (assault)frigs / interceptors?
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Benglada
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Posted - 2006.03.13 10:43:00 -
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if your at your optimal yes, if your even a lil bit off, no.
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Yarrmageddon
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Posted - 2006.03.13 10:49:00 -
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Edited by: Yarrmageddon on 13/03/2006 10:49:48
Are 4 light blasters + 1 med NOS + 5 Valkyries enough to take on a cruiser?
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Rells
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Posted - 2006.03.13 10:51:00 -
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Originally by: Yarrmageddon
Edited by: Yarrmageddon on 13/03/2006 10:49:48
Are 4 light blasters + 1 med NOS + 5 Valkyries enough to take on a cruiser?
Depends on the crusier and his setup. To kill a blaster rax, prolly not.
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Sarafi
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Posted - 2006.03.13 13:46:00 -
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Highs: 5x Heavy electron blaster II's Null ammo
Mids: 10mn MWD, Web, 20 Warp disrupter
Lows: 2 Magstabs, MedAR II, ,400/800 plate(cant remember), PDU
Drones: 5x Valkyrie II's
Absolutely awesome damage output and with advanced weapons upgrades lvl 4 i believe you could swap out the PDU for another dmg mod/cap relay/hardeners other fitting requirements permiting ofcourse.
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Keneki
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Posted - 2006.03.13 14:11:00 -
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Want to thorw your target for a loop? Slap some laser on that rax My corp always makes fun of my ship set ups
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Garreck
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Posted - 2006.03.13 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: Freibeuter
Question:
Do heavy blasters have enough tracking speed to hit webbed (assault)frigs / interceptors?
Yes, but that's really not what they're for. If you're looking to make an anti-frig 'rax, you're better off using a 1600mm plate and some small rails. Though, in a cruiser that has the capacity to take on battleships (particularly an npc-fitted battleship, which is what a pirate would be looking for) you want to catch the "bigger fish" and go with heavy blasters instead.
Originally by: Yarrmageddon
Edited by: Yarrmageddon on 13/03/2006 10:49:48
Are 4 light blasters + 1 med NOS + 5 Valkyries enough to take on a cruiser?
Yes...but use the thorax bonus, do more damage. Go with heavy blasters. Ever since RMR, the only reason to not fit medium turrets on the thorax is if you're trying to kill frigates.
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Jarek Naumen
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Posted - 2006.03.13 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
Edited by: Butter Dog on 13/03/2006 09:22:46
When I'm flying a rax (my favourite cruiser) I fit as:
4 Ion Blasters, 1 Med Nos
MWD, 7.5k scram, Web
800 plate, explosuve hardener, kinetic and thermic membrane, medium rep
You get plenty of armour and strong resistances across the board. Its the perfect 'other cruiser killer'. And its damn effective against webbed AF's too.
You can take out poorly fitted battleships without a problem, which you probably encounter a lot of when pirating (unfortunately I only encounter well fitted ones :p)
You mean light ions or heavy ions? It doesn't look like it fits with heavy ions but can't check in-game atm.
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Garreck
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Posted - 2006.03.13 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: Jarek Naumen
It doesn't look like it fits with heavy ions but can't check in-game atm.
It doesn't. Not even with adv weapon upgrades 5. I can only assume he means lights.
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Rashmika Clavain
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Posted - 2006.03.13 15:15:00 -
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hmmm well I've only been going for 5 weeks so I amnot as knowledgeable as you lot... my cruiser:
H: x3 250mm Prototype Gauss, x2 150mm Prototype Gauss
M: MWD, Scrambler, Webber
L: 800mm plate, Small Armour Repairer II, Magnetic field stab, Tracking Enhancer, Nano plating thingy.
Guess I need to do some rethinking... I thought Rails were the way to go.
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Donna Darko
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Posted - 2006.03.13 18:41:00 -
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Edited by: Donna Darko on 13/03/2006 18:42:35
Originally by: Jarek Naumen
4 Ion Blasters, 1 Med Nos
MWD, 7.5k scram, Web
explosuve hardener, kinetic and thermic membrane, medium rep
... + something else in the last low slot works, even with Advanced Weapons Upgrades 4. The 800 plate he mentioned doesn't fit.
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2006.03.13 19:14:00 -
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Try
5 x Heavy Electron Blaster T2
MWD (Named), 20Km Scramblerm, Webber
800mm Plate, 2 x Energised Nano's T2, CPR, Med Rep T2
5 x Medium ECM Drones
Lots of cap and fun to fly, breaking the enemies lock is quite fun too. 
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Laocoon
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Posted - 2006.03.13 20:44:00 -
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the thorax is my favourite pirating ship 
It's so uber it's untrue. you just gotta know theÖ setup.
But really, tbh it is a bit of a solo pwnmobile and is easily capable of taking on BCs and so rocks..
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Deathwind2097
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Posted - 2006.03.13 20:52:00 -
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i would recommend 4 t2 small neutron blasters, 1 nos, 10mn mwd, webber, scrambler, and a armor tnak. that usually is the setup that i use when soloing in my rax
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Teh Shaz
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Posted - 2006.03.14 01:25:00 -
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I gotta say... i love an 800 plate, two med nos combo 
Works great with a vexor as well
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Toru Kensaiga
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Posted - 2006.03.14 02:04:00 -
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Would using rails at range work with the drones? Or is it the tracking that is the issue?
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.03.14 08:21:00 -
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Originally by: Rells
Until you encounter a fleet of 6 frigs that have been through my course in which case you will be floating home in a pod if you are lucky.
Or a ship with a scram/web and a jammer.
I encourage everyone to fly a thorax, it's a very useful ship.
Plus if everyone flies one, then I know to fit more Gallente jammers.
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This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil.
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Rells
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Posted - 2006.03.14 09:52:00 -
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I had a thorax attack me once in a lowsec belt when I was checking out a Ferrox setup on rats to fine tune my optimals. Too bad for him I was sporting a full PvP rig designed to kill crusiers and intys.
A thorax will only work against someone set up for NPCing. Against a pvper its a rather weak ship.
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Garreck
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Posted - 2006.03.14 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Rells
A thorax will only work against someone set up for NPCing. Against a pvper its a rather weak ship.
This belongs in a signature somewhere...
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Garreck
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Posted - 2006.03.14 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: Donna Darko
Ah, and Rells... Are you dumb or something? You take pride in destroying a cruiser in a battlecruiser? That's like saying "Yeah, an Ibis is only good against NPC setup, against a PVPer in a Battleship it can't do squat".
To be entirely fair, a thorax is ideally suited precisely for killing battlecruisers. So well done to Rell, whatever the circumstances were.
But that broad-brushed "thorax is no good against a pvp-er" sentiment is flat wrong. I do hope you're not teaching your students that.
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2006.03.14 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Garreck
Originally by: Donna Darko
Ah, and Rells... Are you dumb or something? You take pride in destroying a cruiser in a battlecruiser? That's like saying "Yeah, an Ibis is only good against NPC setup, against a PVPer in a Battleship it can't do squat".
To be entirely fair, a thorax is ideally suited precisely for killing battlecruisers. So well done to Rell, whatever the circumstances were.
But that broad-brushed "thorax is no good against a pvp-er" sentiment is flat wrong. I do hope you're not teaching your students that.
Garreck is the man when it comes to gallente ships.
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Zecht
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Posted - 2006.03.14 18:30:00 -
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Edited by: Zecht on 14/03/2006 18:30:28
Edited by: Zecht on 14/03/2006 18:30:11
Here's what i've been using.
High
5x150mm Carbide Railguns with AM
Med
Named MWD, Named 7.5 Scrambler, Named Webby
Low
Med Armor Rep II, 3 Different Hardeners (EM, Kin, Therm), and 1600mm rolled tung.
Drones
4x Hammerhead I
This is all with my current skills. I'd add another drone and use more T2 equipment if i could, but right now this thing kicks ass.
-Optimal is around 7km
-Annihilates anything small with the high tracking speed+web
-Tanks like a BAMF
I <3 this setup more than my med blaster/nos setup ftw. Can even tank and destroy BS spawns in 0.0. Try it out :)
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Drasked
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Posted - 2006.03.14 18:43:00 -
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Edited by: Drasked on 14/03/2006 18:43:15
Originally by: Zecht
Edited by: Zecht on 14/03/2006 18:30:28
Edited by: Zecht on 14/03/2006 18:30:11
Here's what i've been using.
High
5x150mm Carbide Railguns with AM
Med
Named MWD, Named 7.5 Scrambler, Named Webby
Low
Med Armor Rep II, 3 Different Hardeners (EM, Kin, Therm), and 1600mm rolled tung.
Drones
4x Hammerhead I
This is all with my current skills. I'd add another drone and use more T2 equipment if i could, but right now this thing kicks ass.
-Optimal is around 7km
-Annihilates anything small with the high tracking speed+web
-Tanks like a BAMF
I <3 this setup more than my med blaster/nos setup ftw. Can even tank and destroy BS spawns in 0.0. Try it out :)
Yeah, was wondering when someone would post a decent small guns setup.. when i used a thorax for piracy the small guns where awesome.. it was some time back so i dont know if anything radically changed.
(and get 150mm II and medium drones II will be worth it)
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Garreck
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Posted - 2006.03.14 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Drasked
it was some time back so i dont know if anything radically changed.
Things have. The drone bay has been halved, so the "free" firepower from 8 heavy drones is gone. But it's been given significantly more grid and cpu, so the guns can take up the slack. The only reason to fit small guns on a thorax now is if you mean to take on frigates. Heavy electrons are terrific against cruisers and battleships, and an 800 plate still gives you 3500 armor or so to work with.
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Cummilla
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Posted - 2006.03.14 20:34:00 -
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The illustrious Garreck, only time, sir, until you are parted with that shiny Vigilant
On topic though,the rax is just a shadow of it's former self in the solo roll. Just not enough "Tank" or gank there to venture far beyond the middle of the road BC class opponent.
Gone are the days when I have taken down vagas in a rax 
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Ginaz
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Posted - 2006.03.14 20:58:00 -
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3x Med Pulse Laser T2 (small guns)
2x Med Nos
Mwd
20k Scramble
Web/7.5k (sometimes i am ****ed of wcs)
MAR
Explo/kin/therm hardener
800mm Plate
works fine and you don't need a plate.. with radio crystals you'll have 11k range if somebody likes to stay away...
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Veto. ftw!
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.03.14 21:46:00 -
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Edited by: Usul Faust on 14/03/2006 21:46:33
but surely if they're outside 7.5k they'll just warp anyway?
EDIT: no wait, i can't read. ignore me.
no skills, just luck.
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Grim Peeper
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Posted - 2006.03.19 09:44:00 -
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high = 5x Ion blaster II or modal light ion particle accelerator w/ antimatter (havent tried the new ammo yet)
med = MWD, 20k disruptor, web or another 20k disruptor
low = 3x magnetic field stabliser II, 1600mm rolled tungten, small armour rep II
drones = 5x valkyrie II or 5x valkyrie I
warp in, approach, mwd on, web/disrupt, guns on, collect loot
evil lil setup that can kill most things up to a BC
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