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Royaldo	Posted - 2006.03.13 01:17:00 - [1] Atm i got 7 t2 electron cannons, 1 heavy nosf in high. mwd, scram, web and heavy capinjector in mediums. 2 large t2 reps, 2 cpr, .... and then im not sure anymore. Should i use energized adaptive t2, 1 hardener and 1 dmg control? or 2 hardeners and 1 engized adaptive t1 or 1 hardener, 1 1600armor and 1 dmg control or? can someone help?
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.03.13 01:19:00 - [2] masterthron?
Aeaus	Posted - 2006.03.13 01:19:00 - [3] I would rely on the cap injector for the most part, so considering you're using such powerful guns stick in a few heat sinks instead of CPRs, and then as much hardening for a tank as you can. But then at this point you reach the not enough CPU debate, doubt those guns will work out for you.
Royaldo	Posted - 2006.03.13 01:20:00 - [4] Edited by: Royaldo on 13/03/2006 01:23:42 i cant fit dmg mods. way to low on cpu for that. edit: bit silly really since i got around 1k spare grid. but this is not a cry about anything other than help.
Furion35	Posted - 2006.03.13 01:24:00 - [5] Originally by: Sarmaul masterthron?
MasterSgtJP	Posted - 2006.03.13 01:59:00 - [6] try using Mag Stabilizers , 425mm Railguns 1600 (named) Rolled Tungsten Platings, though u could optionally fit a 2x NOS (named)
babylonstew	Posted - 2006.03.13 02:11:00 - [7] Originally by: Aeaus I would rely on the cap injector for the most part, so considering you're using such powerful guns stick in a few heat sinks instead of CPRs, and then as much hardening for a tank as you can. But then at this point you reach the not enough CPU debate, doubt those guns will work out for you. Heat sinks [center]X13 - We will win EVE
munkehdotnet	Posted - 2006.03.13 02:37:00 - [8] Edited by: munkehdotnet on 13/03/2006 02:38:49 drop the nos & fit ions pack 5 light & 4 heavy drones. lights will scare off inties if they dont get in web range. Edit: drop the t2 reps for accoms that might free up some cpu. and unless you're bait you shoudnt need dual reps in pvp imho and if you are using dual reps use the domi
Silly LittleAlt	Posted - 2006.03.13 02:55:00 - [9] Originally by: Sarmaul masterthron? HANG LOOSE BROS, THIS BE MASTATHRON MC PIMPIN YO SHIPPIZLES~
Aeaus	Posted - 2006.03.13 03:17:00 - [10] Originally by: babylonstew Originally by: Aeaus I would rely on the cap injector for the most part, so considering you're using such powerful guns stick in a few heat sinks instead of CPRs, and then as much hardening for a tank as you can. But then at this point you reach the not enough CPU debate, doubt those guns will work out for you. Heat sinks Well not heat sinks, but you guys know what I mean...
Foulis	Posted - 2006.03.13 05:58:00 - [11] Originally by: Aeaus Originally by: babylonstew Originally by: Aeaus I would rely on the cap injector for the most part, so considering you're using such powerful guns stick in a few heat sinks instead of CPRs, and then as much hardening for a tank as you can. But then at this point you reach the not enough CPU debate, doubt those guns will work out for you. Heat sinks Well not heat sinks, but you guys know what I mean... That's why I always say "damage mods" ---- I <3 Taranis Cake > Pie - Imaran Originally by: CCP Hammer Boobies
Royaldo	Posted - 2006.03.13 06:03:00 - [12] Edited by: Royaldo on 13/03/2006 06:04:18 ah blasterthron.. what happens when you play way too long and get total of 9 hours sleep in the weekend. Cant be blasterboat with boring rails.
LUKEC	Posted - 2006.03.13 07:40:00 - [13] Current situation of blasterthron: hopeless & helpless. Originally by: Commander Nikolas People like Lukec are the problem and they know it. Shin Ra's Raven has 4x WCS, Lukec's Dominix has 5x WCS & Ishtar has 2x WCS. Antipiracy is causing brain damage
R31D	Posted - 2006.03.13 08:23:00 - [14] Edited by: R31D on 13/03/2006 08:24:44 If you want a twin-rep setup then this will probably be the best you'll get. With 2 damage mods can just about break through a Raven's tank on damage alone 7x Electrons 1x Heavy Nos 1x MWD 1x Web 1x 20km Scrambler 1x Heavy Cap Booster 2x Large Reps 3x Hardeners/Energized Adaptive Nano Membanes 1-2x Magnetic Field Stabs 0-1x Co-proc Might need co-proc depending on the standard of equipment you fit (T1 or named or T2) Free bumpage for all
Crusari	Posted - 2006.03.13 08:30:00 - [15] Originally by: Royaldo Edited by: Royaldo on 13/03/2006 06:03:58 Atm i got 7 t2 electron cannons, 1 heavy nosf in high. mwd, scram, web and heavy capinjector in mediums. 2 large t2 reps, 2 cpr, .... and then im not sure anymore. Should i use energized adaptive t2, 1 hardener and 1 dmg control? or 2 hardeners and 1 engized adaptive t1 or 1 hardener, 1 1600armor and 1 dmg control or? can someone help? Fit either 3 (probably best named) hardeners: explosive, kinetic and thermal. Or fit 3 energized adaptive nano membranes t2 if you have reasonable to good armorcompensation skills. Or 2 energized adaptive nano membranes and 1 energized reactive membrane t2. Also if you do a bit of micro cap management, change the 2 cap relays for a magnetic field stab + co-processor (you're gonna need this anyway if you're using all t2 and some good hardeners) or if you really have lots of best named stuff with least cpu requirements on it, use 2 magstabs instead of 2 cap relays. Rely on your Nos and Cap Injector for your cap.
Jin Entres	Posted - 2006.03.13 09:51:00 - [16] Here's an experimental full passive setup. Actually I would use neutrons on it but I don't have a set atm so meh. I tried it during the test server mayhem and had very positive results (won most 1v1's, even against ravens but then again you never know what people have fitted). If you want to be on the safe side, switch the other plate for a repper and it'll make for a good regular setup. The damage control there is very important, btw, worth more than a 1600mm plate because of the big hull to soak on. The biggest problem of course with the setup is that you can't rep between fights, which I agree sucks, but as a general rule 1 plate is better than 1 repper if the fight lasts 70 seconds or less, assuming the repper can be sustained for atleast that time without sacrificing using anything else.
KilROCK	Posted - 2006.03.13 09:57:00 - [17] Originally by: LUKEC Current situation of blasterthron: hopeless & helpless. Yes..
LWMaverick	Posted - 2006.03.13 11:24:00 - [18] Originally by: Jin Entres Here's an experimental full passive setup. Actually I would use neutrons on it but I don't have a set atm so meh. I tried it during the test server mayhem and had very positive results (won most 1v1's, even against ravens but then again you never know what people have fitted). If you want to be on the safe side, switch the other plate for a repper and it'll make for a good regular setup. The damage control there is very important, btw, worth more than a 1600mm plate because of the big hull to soak on. The biggest problem of course with the setup is that you can't rep between fights, which I agree sucks, but as a general rule 1 plate is better than 1 repper if the fight lasts 70 seconds or less, assuming the repper can be sustained for atleast that time without sacrificing using anything else. 2 Plates on a MegaT would make it handle like a brick, so im not sure its worth it.. You've got a nice fat armor and semi-okay resist, but.... ? Bah.. dunno /Mav
ChalSto	Posted - 2006.03.13 11:32:00 - [19] Originally by: KilROCK Originally by: LUKEC Current situation of blasterthron: hopeless & helpless. Yes.. agreed Current Location: Relax and drinking a beer with Dreez and waiting for TomB¦s Blaster changes
DeMundus	Posted - 2006.03.13 11:35:00 - [20] Iam not gonna give your my setup.... but try 4 electrons II and 4 nos and 2 larger reps.
DeMundus	Posted - 2006.03.13 11:36:00 - [21] Originally by: KilROCK Originally by: LUKEC Current situation of blasterthron: hopeless & helpless. Yes.. You guys the same ppl that play paladin in WoW
LUKEC	Posted - 2006.03.13 11:37:00 - [22] Originally by: DeMundus Iam not gonna give your my setup.... but try 4 electrons II and 4 nos and 2 larger reps. d00h, that's my typhoon setup... seriously. Originally by: Commander Nikolas People like Lukec are the problem and they know it. Shin Ra's Raven has 4x WCS, Lukec's Dominix has 5x WCS & Ishtar has 2x WCS. Antipiracy is causing brain damage
Royaldo	Posted - 2006.03.13 11:47:00 - [23] im maxed in mech, cap and fitting skills cept for advanced weapon upgrades. i got fair good income but spending 4x what the ship cost is on modules just seems silly to me(faction modules). would it be better with 1 large t2 rep and 1 medium t2 rep? and see if i can move bigger guns onto it?
ChalSto	Posted - 2006.03.13 11:49:00 - [24] Originally by: DeMundus Originally by: KilROCK Originally by: LUKEC Current situation of blasterthron: hopeless & helpless. Yes.. You guys the same ppl that play paladin in WoW i don¦t play WoW... game for kids... Current Location: Relax and drinking a beer with Dreez and waiting for TomB¦s Blaster changes
Asurix	Posted - 2006.03.13 12:30:00 - [25] highs: 6-7 neutrons not sure howmany can fit meds: mwd, web, 20km, cap injector with 800's lows: 1 large t2 repper, 3x 1600mm tungsten, 3x mag stab best blasterthron setup imo, can change 1 mag stab for resist or relay or whatever, can kill most things before you need to activate the repper, great for 1 on 1 anything or gatecamping, fit 5 berserkers in drones
Zolofine	Posted - 2006.03.13 13:14:00 - [26] Originally by: Jin Entres Here's an experimental full passive setup. Actually I would use neutrons on it but I don't have a set atm so meh. I tried it during the test server mayhem and had very positive results (won most 1v1's, even against ravens but then again you never know what people have fitted). If you want to be on the safe side, switch the other plate for a repper and it'll make for a good regular setup. The damage control there is very important, btw, worth more than a 1600mm plate because of the big hull to soak on. The biggest problem of course with the setup is that you can't rep between fights, which I agree sucks, but as a general rule 1 plate is better than 1 repper if the fight lasts 70 seconds or less, assuming the repper can be sustained for atleast that time without sacrificing using anything else. Nice set-up Jin, it's very close to what i use but i don't use somany plates on it because i find that it makes the mega SOOOO slugish. Alle i hate not being able to repair between fights so i have a rep on mine. The large amount of hull hitpoint on gallente ships is the only other advantage that gallente have over other races so the dam control works out quite nicely. Have you tried fitting nanofibre plates instead to reduce the slug effect?
Farjung	Posted - 2006.03.13 13:18:00 - [27] Edited by: Farjung on 13/03/2006 13:18:43 Originally by: Zolofine Have you tried fitting nanofibre plates instead to reduce the slug effect? Since RMR, when the velocity penalty was replaced a with mass penalty, rolled tungsten plates are the ones that will make you the least sluggish. Tech I/II plates add the most mass, followed by nanofiber, followed by titanium, followed by crystalline, followed by tungsten. --- Video: Wave of Mutilation
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.03.13 13:23:00 - [28] Originally by: Farjung Edited by: Farjung on 13/03/2006 13:18:43 Originally by: Zolofine Have you tried fitting nanofibre plates instead to reduce the slug effect? Since RMR, when the velocity penalty was replaced a with mass penalty, rolled tungsten plates are the ones that will make you the least sluggish. Tech I/II plates add the most mass, followed by nanofiber, followed by titanium, followed by crystalline, followed by tungsten. correct. the only reason to use nanofibre plates now is 1) cost and 2) cpu
Zolofine	Posted - 2006.03.13 13:42:00 - [29] Edited by: Zolofine on 13/03/2006 13:44:54 Originally by: Sarmaul Originally by: Farjung Edited by: Farjung on 13/03/2006 13:18:43 Originally by: Zolofine Have you tried fitting nanofibre plates instead to reduce the slug effect? Since RMR, when the velocity penalty was replaced a with mass penalty, rolled tungsten plates are the ones that will make you the least sluggish. Tech I/II plates add the most mass, followed by nanofiber, followed by titanium, followed by crystalline, followed by tungsten. correct. the only reason to use nanofibre plates now is 1) cost and 2) cpu Just noticed that... Cpu isn't the primairy issue on this set-up so ther eis totally no reason to fit nanos. Tbh i've never fitted anything but rolled tungsten plates on any set-up because i never found the lower armor hp a trade-off for a bit more agilty. Since they no longer have this perk ther eis totally no more reason to fit nano fibres i guiss. Now if only there was some way to put a rep on that set-up without totally gimping the survivability that would be great ^^ Hmmmz, the only reasonable trade-off would be a damage mod i suppose but then you take away the whole point of the set-up again... ARGH
GruFF83	Posted - 2006.03.13 14:14:00 - [30] Originally by: R31D 1-2x Magnetic Field Stabs 2 mag stabs? dont these have a stacking penalty?

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