Hey community and CCP.

Too many of these whinny posts i know but i'll try to be brief. Played this game for a number of years, great game, keeps my mind active and love to multi-task mine at the office. We are a small mining carebear manefacturing corp that lives in the middle of nowhere in Hi-Sec, mines builds ships and does research etc. Since customs office change went in, within 2 days large corps all moved in and put up customs offices with stupid tax rates etc. We tried to compete, even declared war and tried too take down some offices, no chance with huge corps with unlimited equipment of the best calibre. We supplied our own own starbase fuel, ice mined. rock mined, supplied the market with all sorts of stuff. Now our ICE is hard too get and bots were only tricked for a maybe a week, our Pi stuff is taxed too hell, people gank with alarming regularity and with no consequences on alts. We can live with everything except that CCP has taken the fun out of the game in Hi-Sec. We don't want too move too low sec, quite happy here enjoying the game, less and less and less. Bye, great game, hope Hi-Sec gets some love in future patches and we can come back and enjoy the game like we like too play it. If i want too see the rich get richer and the poor work ever harder to survive with no joy, i'll visit real life. Peace

BTW I understand the EVE universe is ruthless, but when you keep taking the fun out of a game, it stops being a game.

Hey community and CCP.

Too many of these whinny posts i know but i'll try to be brief. Played this game for a number of years, great game, keeps my mind active and love to multi-task mine at the office. We are a small mining carebear manefacturing corp that lives in the middle of nowhere in Hi-Sec, mines builds ships and does research etc. Since customs office change went in, within 2 days large corps all moved in and put up customs offices with stupid tax rates etc. We tried to compete, even declared war and tried too take down some offices, no chance with huge corps with unlimited equipment of the best calibre. We supplied our own own starbase fuel, ice mined. rock mined, supplied the market with all sorts of stuff. Now our ICE is hard too get and bots were only tricked for a maybe a week, our Pi stuff is taxed too hell, people gank with alarming regularity and with no consequences on alts. We can live with everything except that CCP has taken the fun out of the game in Hi-Sec. We don't want too move too low sec, quite happy here enjoying the game, less and less and less. Bye, great game, hope Hi-Sec gets some love in future patches and we can come back and enjoy the game like we like too play it. If i want too see the rich get richer and the poor work ever harder to survive with no joy, i'll visit real life. Peace

BTW I understand the EVE universe is ruthless, but when you keep taking the fun out of a game, it stops being a game.

Hey community and CCP.

Too many of these whinny posts i know but i'll try to be brief. Played this game for a number of years, great game, keeps my mind active and love to multi-task mine at the office. We are a small mining carebear manefacturing corp that lives in the middle of nowhere in Hi-Sec, mines builds ships and does research etc. Since customs office change went in, within 2 days large corps all moved in and put up customs offices with stupid tax rates etc. We tried to compete, even declared war and tried too take down some offices, no chance with huge corps with unlimited equipment of the best calibre. We supplied our own own starbase fuel, ice mined. rock mined, supplied the market with all sorts of stuff. Now our ICE is hard too get and bots were only tricked for a maybe a week, our Pi stuff is taxed too hell, people gank with alarming regularity and with no consequences on alts. We can live with everything except that CCP has taken the fun out of the game in Hi-Sec. We don't want too move too low sec, quite happy here enjoying the game, less and less and less. Bye, great game, hope Hi-Sec gets some love in future patches and we can come back and enjoy the game like we like too play it. If i want too see the rich get richer and the poor work ever harder to survive with no joy, i'll visit real life. Peace

BTW I understand the EVE universe is ruthless, but when you keep taking the fun out of a game, it stops being a game.

Just curious, where do folk get their information that gank rates are up or down, and over what time period?

Just curious, where do folk get their information that gank rates are up or down, and over what time period?

You can do 2 things :

- Stick to what you are doing and get your fun drained when stuff doesn't work as you like.

-Change your playstyle to fit your goals.


Now you said you guys like to do the industrial side of the game and i noticed you are a verry small corp.Instead of complaining about your ice mining or poco's how about you try and get the best out of it in a less and/or safer way.Tell your friends to train marketskills and try that side of the game.

Marketing + the research and building you guys do makes it a much more profitable game and much safer too.You can let others haul your stuff to make it even safer , join the haulers channel for this or use the frogs.



The only thing that get's people to ragequit the game is because they are too scared/stubborn/small minded to change their habbits.Like the last ragequit post from a guy who got ganked 5 times ... he did not mention ALL 5 times where in the same system and that all kills where done by the same corporation.

Do this right and you'll be thanking the guys who are bugging you now for getting your profits to skyrocket in a short time.

I'll try too better explain. Casual players, small corp, ENJOY mining (shock). Trained many skills for specific tasks and rolls for ridiculous amounts of times, tasks and rolls degraded, devalued and now controlled by mega corps and bots CCP cant control. No more enjoyment. All good suggestions btw, yes we should adapt and change , but when your only playing several hours a week and you worked your ass off to build up your carebear empire and enjoyed logging on when you could find the time, and CCP makes mega 0.0 empires control your local ****. It's just, meh, got better things too do, it's still a great game, just not for us anymore. Enjoyment is a personnel thing.,

Just curious, where do folk get their information that gank rates are up or down, and over what time period?

Tippia gets her 'data' from the ether, specifically 'what'ether' and 'where'ether' its convenient to get it from. In short its just made up nonsense

In addition all the mega corps had too adapt too was making more isk from me, we had too adapt too paying it. =p Kinda feels like being taxed by the rich, makes me feel sick. last comment :)

for those that didn't read the OP, and nobody would blame you for that.

the tl:dr is "game requires effort, i'm quitting"

Take a break would be my advice, ignore the typical trolls that live only for this kind of thread in GD.

Keep an eye on the game as hopefully CCP figures out that ignoring Malcanis law loses them PCU and $$$...

Keep an eye on the game as hopefully CCP figures out that ignoring Malcanis law loses them PCU and $$$...

No, the tl:dr is "i don't like the current situation of the game and i'm not having fun". For me, eve is the perfect game and i love it but not everyone feels the same and it is understandable.

Of course, showing some empathy requires more effort and it is easier to post old and unoriginal quotes.

Good luck OP and come back soon.

no, it was basically a systematic whine about every change to conflict drivers that has been done in the last 18 months or so?
even more justified by his first line basically saying "i afk mine while at work" demonstrating just how little effort he wants to put in to the game to begin with.

no, it was basically a systematic whine about every change to conflict drivers that has been done in the last 18 months or so?
even more justified by his first line basically saying "i afk mine while at work" demonstrating just how little effort he wants to put in to the game to begin with.

Do you really care if a random dude at the other side of the world mines afk while at work? I have different concerns in my life, but i assume you are a very lucky guy is this is importat for you.

Wait. You actually read that? I both commend and pity you. Did it make you drown in your own tears because it was so sad or in your own blood because your eyes were bleeding by the time you were done?

Reading is hard for f1 monkeys.

thanks for letting us know how you play eve. have you tried not being an f1 monkey?

Hey community and CCP.

Too many of these whinny posts i know but i'll try to be brief. Played this game for a number of years, great game, keeps my mind active and love to multi-task mine at the office. We are a small mining carebear manefacturing corp that lives in the middle of nowhere in Hi-Sec, mines builds ships and does research etc. Since customs office change went in, within 2 days large corps all moved in and put up customs offices with stupid tax rates etc. We tried to compete, even declared war and tried too take down some offices, no chance with huge corps with unlimited equipment of the best calibre. We supplied our own own starbase fuel, ice mined. rock mined, supplied the market with all sorts of stuff. Now our ICE is hard too get and bots were only tricked for a maybe a week, our Pi stuff is taxed too hell, people gank with alarming regularity and with no consequences on alts. We can live with everything except that CCP has taken the fun out of the game in Hi-Sec. We don't want too move too low sec, quite happy here enjoying the game, less and less and less. Bye, great game, hope Hi-Sec gets some love in future patches and we can come back and enjoy the game like we like too play it. If i want too see the rich get richer and the poor work ever harder to survive with no joy, i'll visit real life. Peace

BTW I understand the EVE universe is ruthless, but when you keep taking the fun out of a game, it stops being a game.

I was talking to him. Yes, i tried to not be an f1 monkey and with great success. No i run my own content and not the content of others.

that's nice for you. what has that got to do with the OP quitting because the game involves effort?

Incorrect on all counts.

I get my data from the simple fact that I used to make good money from sitting on the Jita undock or Perimeter gate(s) stealing gank loot, and you could count the CONCORD clouds along every highway. The money is gone, as are the clouds (and not just in the sense that they don't appear in force like in the olden days).

This makes it based on an observed reality, unlike every claim ever made about some supposed increase in ganking.

Ah yes, the effort, sorry.

I don't need to put effort in the game. Maybe when i started, i had to read some tutorials, watch some videos... etc. That is what you call effort? Do you really believe that eve is hard and that it requires effort? Are you a new player or something?

re-read my question, and try again. or would you like me to use smaller words?

So yeah like I said you make the 'data' up.

Its accuracy is about as good as me sitting in a random high sec system and declaring ganking no longer happens because I never saw any ganks...

re-read my question, and try again. or would you like me to use smaller words?

We tried to compete, even declared war and tried too take down some offices, no chance with huge corps with unlimited equipment of the best calibre.

I get my data from the simple fact that I used to make good money from sitting on the Jita undock or Perimeter gate(s) stealing gank loot, and you could count the CONCORD clouds along every highway. The money is gone, as are the clouds (and not just in the sense that they don't appear in force like in the olden days).

All good suggestions btw, yes we should adapt and change , but when your only playing several hours a week ....

The ganking at an all time low statement is from a Dev, although I believe the context referred to mining vessels.

Maybe people have realized that ganking with catalysts and taloses is better than thrashers and tornados, with everyone but you realizing this and moving to Niarja.

Hey dudes, it's very simple.

He paid to play the game his way.

Now he can't play the game his way.

So, he doesn't pays the game neither.

Why the drama?

Again, sit in a high-traffic, high-value system and see how long it takes for one to happen. It used to be often enough that you could make a living out of stealing loot from them at any time of the day.

http://perpetuum-online.com

Oh come on, you seem upset, why? Just because i told you that you used some old and unoriginal quotes?


The is no need

To be upset

And eve is hard

It requires effort!

Uncle Dave told me that!


I'm having some fun, not gonna lie.

Wow that is some real evidence.
you little hypocrite

Does anybody actually play this anymore?

I tried it out myself for perhaps all total.... maybe a couple hours? Bored the hell out of me which is not what I feel a game should do from the very start.

Hey community and CCP.

Too many of these whinny posts i know but i'll try to be brief. Played this game for a number of years, great game, keeps my mind active and love to multi-task mine at the office. We are a small mining carebear manefacturing corp that lives in the middle of nowhere in Hi-Sec, mines builds ships and does research etc. Since customs office change went in, within 2 days large corps all moved in and put up customs offices with stupid tax rates etc. We tried to compete, even declared war and tried too take down some offices, no chance with huge corps with unlimited equipment of the best calibre. We supplied our own own starbase fuel, ice mined. rock mined, supplied the market with all sorts of stuff. Now our ICE is hard too get and bots were only tricked for a maybe a week, our Pi stuff is taxed too hell, people gank with alarming regularity and with no consequences on alts. We can live with everything except that CCP has taken the fun out of the game in Hi-Sec. We don't want too move too low sec, quite happy here enjoying the game, less and less and less. Bye, great game, hope Hi-Sec gets some love in future patches and we can come back and enjoy the game like we like too play it. If i want too see the rich get richer and the poor work ever harder to survive with no joy, i'll visit real life. Peace

BTW I understand the EVE universe is ruthless, but when you keep taking the fun out of a game, it stops being a game.

Hey community and CCP.

Too many of these whinny posts i know but i'll try to be brief. Played this game for a number of years, great game, keeps my mind active and love to multi-task mine at the office. We are a small mining carebear manefacturing corp that lives in the middle of nowhere in Hi-Sec, mines builds ships and does research etc. Since customs office change went in, within 2 days large corps all moved in and put up customs offices with stupid tax rates etc. We tried to compete, even declared war and tried too take down some offices, no chance with huge corps with unlimited equipment of the best calibre. We supplied our own own starbase fuel, ice mined. rock mined, supplied the market with all sorts of stuff. Now our ICE is hard too get and bots were only tricked for a maybe a week, our Pi stuff is taxed too hell, people gank with alarming regularity and with no consequences on alts. We can live with everything except that CCP has taken the fun out of the game in Hi-Sec. We don't want too move too low sec, quite happy here enjoying the game, less and less and less. Bye, great game, hope Hi-Sec gets some love in future patches and we can come back and enjoy the game like we like too play it. If i want too see the rich get richer and the poor work ever harder to survive with no joy, i'll visit real life. Peace

BTW I understand the EVE universe is ruthless, but when you keep taking the fun out of a game, it stops being a game.

So you agree then, seeing as all you have to offer as a counter is an ad hominem.

(Btw, average hauler kills in Niarja this month: 3.1 per day. Average hauler kills in Niarja for December four years ago, 3.7 per day.)

Also TY, OP.

I was gone for a while. I didn't know they had handed over HS POCO to players. I never really did PI for the ISK. It was more something to do so long as I broke even.

52 Command centers just went off line.

Take note, OP. I'm not complaining, it's just part of the progression of EVE. More dead content in the dust bin.

haha sure mate keep telling yourself that, you're a joke

for those that didn't read the OP, and nobody would blame you for that.

the tl:dr is "game requires effort, i'm quitting"

And this is why it's usually better to dissect troll posts instead of ignoring them, as someone will inevitably believe them and perpetuate the nonsense.

Hey community and CCP.

Too many of these whinny posts i know but i'll try to be brief. Played this game for a number of years, great game, keeps my mind active and love to multi-task mine at the office. We are a small mining carebear manefacturing corp that lives in the middle of nowhere in Hi-Sec, mines builds ships and does research etc. Since customs office change went in, within 2 days large corps all moved in and put up customs offices with stupid tax rates etc. We tried to compete, even declared war and tried too take down some offices, no chance with huge corps with unlimited equipment of the best calibre. We supplied our own own starbase fuel, ice mined. rock mined, supplied the market with all sorts of stuff. Now our ICE is hard too get and bots were only tricked for a maybe a week, our Pi stuff is taxed too hell, people gank with alarming regularity and with no consequences on alts. We can live with everything except that CCP has taken the fun out of the game in Hi-Sec. We don't want too move too low sec, quite happy here enjoying the game, less and less and less. Bye, great game, hope Hi-Sec gets some love in future patches and we can come back and enjoy the game like we like too play it. If i want too see the rich get richer and the poor work ever harder to survive with no joy, i'll visit real life. Peace

BTW I understand the EVE universe is ruthless, but when you keep taking the fun out of a game, it stops being a game.

Move further away from Jita. The ganking will be less prevalent and the POCO won't be taxed as high.

I know this much. If I ever quit:

1). I'm telling no one except CCP when I cancel my accounts.

2). I give nothing to anyone.

3). I BioMass ALL my toons with ALL my property and ISK which, while is not in the Trillions is worth over 150 Billion.

This way, I will have no reason to return. Not starting over from scratch that's for sure...

Love the new PI system, large corporations get too tax your azz on factories you set up years ago. It's like the ***** have invaded Europe again.

You can get chars unbiomassed for your info .


One of those chars is now telling you that you can get chars unbiomassed ...

Not when I tried to. I forgot to move some 200 million worth of ships on an alt I zapped. When I did a petition the very next day I was told "Nope...gone..."