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Morgan Forksaws
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.30 10:42:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Morgan Forksaws wrote:Pretty strange that CCP introduced officer DDAs before faction, I guess they wanted to create more content for drone regions but drone plexes still kinda lack good rewards. Not really. It's only recently that drones have become the new "OP" weapon of choice. What does that have to do with anything? CCP don't add content based on the current FOTM, they're not riot games. |
Sal Landry
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.12.30 14:48:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Honestly, until they kill drone assist - any discussion of further enhancing drones is moot. Forget drone assist, how about why does an 800 dps domi or ishtar with garde II's track better than 200mm Railguns on a tracking bonused hull? In order to out-track Garde II's with railguns you need to go all the way down to Dual 150mm. That's insane. |
Batelle
Komm susser Tod
1052
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Posted - 2013.12.30 16:07:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Sa Matra wrote:CCP needs to introduce a faction version of drone damage amplifiers in order to improve the balance in game. How about toning town the T2 version instead and introducing a Faction one with the T2 stats?
That would make the t2 version weaker than a t2 damage mod for any other weapon system. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
Batelle
Komm susser Tod
1052
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Posted - 2013.12.30 16:12:00 -
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Nariya Kentaya wrote:Caleb Seremshur wrote:The key advantage of faction gear is near or higher than T2 performance at lower fitting cost thus allowing maximum pimp. A min maxers dream. the whole "better than tech 2 BUT less fitting" is what angers me, faction should either have higher fitting reqs but be better than T2, or be slightly lower fitting and just below T2 stats. only thing that should be better than T2 is deadspace and officer, faction should be used to bridge the "skill gap" between T1 and T2, not fly right by it.
Prepare to be angry for a long time then. If the only benefit of faction was for scrubs to use them without training skills, then it would be pretty useless (there are some mods like this, see shadow serpentis or gallente navy EANM). Some faction items are worse than t2 as well. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
OhGodMyImplants
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.30 21:18:00 -
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Faction drone damage amplifiers seem like a good idea that would bring a lot to the game. If they are too strong, they could be balanced by the cost of the module. |
Arthur Aihaken
The.VOID
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Posted - 2013.12.30 23:12:00 -
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Sal Landry wrote:Forget drone assist, how about why does an 800 dps domi or ishtar with garde II's track better than 200mm Railguns on a tracking bonused hull? In order to out-track Garde II's with railguns you need to go all the way down to Dual 150mm. That's insane. Sounds like the nerf bat needs to make an appearance... I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Zoq Fot
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.12.31 06:30:00 -
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faction drone damage amps are a good idea
+1 |
Trader Greenish
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.01.02 21:59:00 -
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This seems like a good idea, and would bring drones in line with other systems |
Verity Sovereign
Sovereign Fleet Tax Shelter
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Posted - 2014.01.02 22:33:00 -
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Fed navy EANM = T2 EANM with lower fitting Amarr Navy EANM > T2 ANM, I forget about the fitting, I think it was the same (cant check right now.
Its a clearly established mechanic that if you are willing to pay much more, you should get a few % increase.
So, as has been proposed before, in light of the recent changes to make drones an Amarr weapon system as well....
Amarr Navy Drone Damage Amplifier - T2 stats, reduced fitting
Federation Navy Drone Damage Amplifier - Better than T2 stats, same fitting.
If people want to turn their drone boats into loot pi+Ķatas, let them.
Black Eagle drone links (just plain better in terms of stats, fitting, and skil req than T2) Fed Navy omni links (just plain better in terms of stats, fitting, and skil req than T2) Fed Navy DDAs (giving you 2% higher DPS, like faction damage mods for any other weapon system, same fitting)
I don't think it would be imbalanced at all.
Every other weapon system has a faction mod that increased DPS by ~2% and is easier to fit. Why should drones be treated differently? |
HiddenPorpoise
BG-1 The Craniac
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Posted - 2014.01.02 23:31:00 -
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Sal Landry wrote:Arthur Aihaken wrote:Honestly, until they kill drone assist - any discussion of further enhancing drones is moot. Forget drone assist, how about why does an 800 dps domi or ishtar with garde II's track better than 200mm Railguns on a tracking bonused hull? In order to out-track Garde II's with railguns you need to go all the way down to Dual 150mm. That's insane. Because rail tracking took a 15% hit last patch. |
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Miasmos
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.02 23:39:00 -
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Just today I was checking for unreserved names and tried Sa-Matra. |
Verity Sovereign
Sovereign Fleet Tax Shelter
708
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Posted - 2014.01.03 12:56:00 -
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HiddenPorpoise wrote:Sal Landry wrote:Arthur Aihaken wrote:Honestly, until they kill drone assist - any discussion of further enhancing drones is moot. Forget drone assist, how about why does an 800 dps domi or ishtar with garde II's track better than 200mm Railguns on a tracking bonused hull? In order to out-track Garde II's with railguns you need to go all the way down to Dual 150mm. That's insane. Because rail tracking took a 15% hit last patch.
Somebody is ignoring signature resolution.
Consider: * Gun A: that tracks at 0.1 rad/sec with a sig res of 400
* Gun B: that tracks at 0.05 rad/sec with a sig res of 100
Gun B tracks twice as well as gun A, due to the way the tracking formula works. |
ZheoTheThird
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.01.11 01:27:00 -
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I support this idea. Currrently there are not many options to bling out your average ratting boat past using more expensive tanking modules - faction DDAs would solve that problem, giving the wealthier players one more module to spend their hard earned ISK on. |
Arthur Aihaken
The.VOID
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Posted - 2014.01.11 02:44:00 -
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So did anyone firm up some numbers? 25% damage for the Faction Drone Damage Amplifiers...? I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Sa Matra
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:36:00 -
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what what |
Swiftstrike1
Swiftstrike Incorporated
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:40:00 -
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Funny how this thread appears right after a blog is posted making exactly this announcement... why do people do this? Fleet Bookmarks New Gravimetric Sites Med Clones 2.0 |
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