These mining bots or whatever they wish to consider themselves who never pay physical cash but plex all their accounts, there are players who pay and are affected.

1) New Players[/s]
2) Players without isobox/Vec
3)Players of different time zone unable to mine after DT since ore and ice are empty within hours after DT
4) Full high sec time miners

Affected players:

1) New Players
2) Players without isobox/Vec
3)Players of different time zone unable to mine after DT since ore and ice are empty within hours after DT
4) Full high sec time miners

This right here is why it'll never happen. While the 50 man ice bot fleeter doesnt pay cash, but in game plex, someone payed for that plex out of game. truth is, botters make CCP money.

remove botters, and they will just cancel that 50 bot minining fleet then sub them. thats 50 plex not being bought in game, that 50 plex not being bought out game to be sold in game...50 plex not being bought, with no new sub to replace it...that's a loss.

If the 50 bot mining didn't purchase the plex, it will still be divided to 50 other players who usually unable to purchase the plex due to insane bot activities. Someone else will still purchase the Plex rather than concentrated to a single player.

New players don't really mine ice GÇö the skill requirements to make it work effectively are too high.
Players without isboxer/vec are no more affected than those who do use those programs GÇö an empty belt or anomaly is an empty belt or anomaly, and the supposed problem here is that the belts become empty.
These multibox fleets are full time miners, so the same applies here: an empty belt/anomaly is an empty belt/anomaly.

That only leaves the TZ difference (assuming it's even accurate that every belt in highsec runs out so quicklyGǪ). Well, that's pretty much to be expected from something that is intentionally designed to be a limited resource: they're meant to run out every day.

GǪand removing these active accounts means other players who pay are affected. It also means CCP earns less money, since PLEXed accounts are a better (if riskier) income source than a standard subscriptions.

Asteroid field, usually empty after DT in a few hours in high sec.

Actually, you could be wrong. If the 50 bot mining didn't purchase the plex, it will still be divided to 50 other players who usually unable to purchase the plex due to insane bot activities. Someone else will still purchase the Plex rather than concentrated to a single player. Either 50 players pay for plex or just 1 player pay for Plex, which is the fundamental here. Having bots will not increase Plex sales as it limited the economical capability of other miners to purchase Plex. Moreover, Plex purchase by bots are schedule to be spent over a long period of time not short term, again this provide fake assumption of the Plex.

Bots, Isobox and other similar program has been around Eve for sometime and it has now came to a point it is damaging to other players and the game itself.

GǪexcept that the demand would be much lower so there would be less reason to do so and/or the stockpiles would just pointlessly build up.

Either way, these are still payed-for accounts you're talking about, and you're still asking them to reduce the number of such accounts. No matter how you cut it, that means less income for CCP.

You can't allow parts of EULA to be breach while acting faithfully on other parts of the EULA.

CCP will have to choose to act accordingly to their EULA or forget EULA ever exist. You can't allow parts of EULA to be breach while acting faithfully on other parts of the EULA. CCP must made their stand clear on the topic of external program.

What part is being breached? I ask you to read it carefully before replying.

You do know that CCP ban botters, right?

Also, why would people use sound proof boxes to mine?

However, CCP has not made it clear on Isobox and Vec. These are external program. EULA does not allow any external program to work with Eve. Too many question on this topic as CCP has never made their message clear and stand on their binding of EULA.

they did make it clear; they had a whole goddamn devblog on the subject.

Please ban all botters.

I realise they makes ships more affordable but in my opinion they are more a nuisance than an asset to CCP and us players as they are terrible for player retention.
Realizing they can't compete at all and will never be able to turn a lot of guys out of the game.

Otherwise we might as well allow macro and all kind of cheats, hey the cheater are paying their sub after all.



Also please keep banning the jita spammers, they bring nothing to the game.

What part is being breached? I ask you to read it carefully before replying.

I ask YOU to read it carefully before replying/quote:

6. CONDUCT

A. Specifically Restricted Conduct

Your continued access to the System and license to play the Game is subject to proper conduct. Without limiting CCP's rights to control the Game environment, and the conduct of the players within that environment, CCP prohibits the following practices that CCP has determined detract from the overall user experience of the users playing the Game.

1) You may not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the System.
2) You may not use your own or third-party software to modify any content appearing within the Game environment or change how the Game is played.
3 You may not use your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play. You may not rewrite or modify the user interface or otherwise manipulate data in any way to acquire items, currency, objects, character attributes or beneficial actions not actually acquired or achieved in the Game.
4) You may not use the Software, or any information accessible through the System, to bypass the System login architecture or create or provide any other means through which the System may be accessed and/or the Game may be played by others, as, for example, through server emulators.

They do ban botters, so I do not see your point.

You should go back to school.

There are so many people talking about isboxing a bunch of BS to solo incursions around here that I seriously doubt that tbh.

You should go back to school.

And maybe you can point out the parts being breached? Again, read them first before replying.