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celebro
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Posted - 2014.01.01 12:52:00 -
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This thread is going round in circles.
If 50 players mining ice= x amount of ice/hour
If 50 accounts mining ice (with 1 player)= x
So what's the problem exactly, x is the same in both scenarios assuming same fittings/skills. In both counts the same amount of subscriptions has been payed, and most importantly they both need to be at the keyboard at least when the ice pops or the cargo is full.
The number of players controlling any number of accounts is irrelevant simply because each account has to be assumed to be a human player, that's the way CCP rolls. |
celebro
Perpetuum Industries
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Posted - 2014.01.01 13:37:00 -
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You can't constantly mix everything and justified it all becos they Plex.
One player plexes his/her account, same as 1 player plexes 50 accounts there is no distinction.
If it is the case, then why not Eve be only play by bots then?
No botting is involved. Botting is automation, that means in simple terms e.g press f1 every 5 minutes for 10 times, if cargo is full drop cargo on Orca, this not what isBoxer does.
There is infact making all other players unneccessary. They can bot/multibox mine (or how ever they want to term it different when it is still a 3rd party program affecting game play) and sell to each other, why is there any need for new or normal players then?.
That certainly a plex issue that is not simple to resolve other than removing plex, isboxer is a even harder to police than real botting. Removing Plex only makes RMT worse. There is no easy solution to this. No other players are not made unnecessary, you can just ignore them or do the same, but only a few amount of players do this.
]Any business cannot only think about short term sales (Plex) where they ignore the long term problem of bot/Isoboxer. This in fact drive away players.
I fail to see how it drives players away. Games are for enjoyment not bean counting, i am sure players with 50 account must really enjoy themselves, because is not really as easy to do as u might think.
Elder Scroll coming up in March, does CCP wants to continue spoiling their GM players and their friends? Or they want to look into the world issue that is generally affecting other players who plays according to EULA?
Isboxer is not against EULA, and please state your source on GM player and friends doing this? |
celebro
Perpetuum Industries
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Posted - 2014.01.01 13:50:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:Maybe you all should send the tears to Microsoft and petition them to remove Aero and ALT-TAB.
Confirming ALT-TAB is breaking EVE. |
celebro
Perpetuum Industries
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Posted - 2014.01.01 14:21:00 -
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Called for what it is: OP an others has an issue with a program making Multi -boxing easier. This has nothing do with botting or automation which is actually against EULA.
Question is that it really make multiboxing that much easier? Setting it all up is not easy if not we would all be doing it. |
celebro
Perpetuum Industries
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Posted - 2014.01.01 14:32:00 -
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Robert Caldera wrote: here again, no. Read wikipedia. Automation is not just AI, it includes a whole lot of other aspects beyond that like efficiency improvement or reducing of workload for human.
Grey area that CCP and most players don't see it that way, it's a really minor issue that is not worth wasting resource to police. Play your game, if you see isboxer as such a great advantage, use it, sign up 50+ accounts and have fun skilling then all up. |
celebro
Perpetuum Industries
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Posted - 2014.01.01 14:54:00 -
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Robert Caldera wrote:celebro wrote: Grey area that CCP and most players don't see it that way, it's a really minor issue that is not worth wasting resource to police. Play your game, if you see isboxer as such a great advantage, use it, sign up 50+ accounts and have fun skilling then all up.
no. for same reason I never did bot ratting.
Is this a moral decision of some kind? Because botting is not allowed, Isboxer is allowed.
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celebro
Perpetuum Industries
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Posted - 2014.01.01 15:24:00 -
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Robert Caldera wrote: Basically it allows you to drag a horde of bots running together with you imitating your actions, which is a very very efficient approach for many activities in eve which wouldnt be possible without use of that software. .
How efficient is Isbox in relation to the number of subbed accounts? Guess what ,its the same for everyone, its not any more efficient. |
celebro
Perpetuum Industries
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Posted - 2014.01.01 15:35:00 -
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Robert Caldera wrote:AFK Hauler wrote: automated (independent of a human)
here is your problem, you dont understand what automation is and think its some kind of AI or some sh*t - its not.
Interesting, so playing chords in a piano is automated because I have more than 1 finger? |
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