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Vaxhinsul Shadowmarked
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Posted - 2003.09.09 16:06:00 -
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I happened to be passing through a gate the other night and my threts went off like a christmas tree, but lo and behold I was not under attack.
As I neared the gate I noticed off in the distance 3 small objects circling a lone flaming Thorax struggling to get to the gate.
If that was you guy's nice work. If it wasn't then whoever it was had their **** together. The two closest frigates were flaming a bit themselves but were still dishing out rockets and laser blasts without mercy. And they were moving kind of fast.
I really liked the idea of the Kestrel (the 3rd ship I could see rather clearly as he was closest to me)swooping in after the initial attack and unloading the missile barage, it was beutifully executed. I left in a hurry as the second wave of missiles struck the Thorax. I thought for sure that with all the fire comming out that it was about to blow and as I was unarmed and didn't want to be the next target I buggered off.
Even though you didn't splash the Thorax you did beat him, he ran for cover as soon as he could. I passed him in the next solar system a few minutes later with large flames comming from places in his ass they shouldn't have been comming from.
Very nicely done. Very nice.
I'm in a nice crusier now and love it but would like to know what configurations you like to use on these frigates. I still fight in my Punisher a lot and would love to try different things in it.
Have you thought of using Indy's for EW?
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Vaxhinsul Shadowmarked
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Posted - 2003.09.09 16:08:00 -
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Doh! This was supposed to be under the topic, Mercenary Frigetes. My Bad, hit the wrong button.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2003.09.09 16:51:00 -
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hahaha, easy done my friend.
Good show for the frigate pirates though, iv been seeing alot of this happening around eve.
Frigates are so cheap and are very easy to equip.
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Cro Ramel
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Posted - 2003.09.09 16:55:00 -
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Saw a group of frigates with a blackbird make an Apocalypse BS run. Good ****!
"If it sounds like a bad idea, it is."
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.09.09 17:35:00 -
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I've killed a vexor with a punisher.

Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Bambooza
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Posted - 2003.09.09 17:51:00 -
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Yes indeed. Its about time we start seeing people realize that there is a ton more to this game then playing the bigger more costly ship tread mill. This is not to say a single frigate will ever be able to take down a battleship (battleship shield recharge rate), but at the same time the battleship will for the most part never touch the frigate because of the large gun tracking speed.
The only current disadvantage is lag deaths. For a stopped frigate is a dead frigate (not that any other ship will give you much better protection in warping to a gate with lots of items around it)
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.09.09 17:52:00 -
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Edited by: Skillz on 09/09/2003 17:53:32
One frig should however be for EW since a lot of people has drone interfacing III or IV and a thorax could dish out 8 heavies. They slice up cruisers with ease and then they'd surely make the frigs look elsewere for targets.
Is off to test stuff on the alternative server.

Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Shock
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Posted - 2003.09.09 18:43:00 -
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It sucks though when your clone is about the price of a good frigate or more. --- soonÖ |

Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2003.09.10 02:14:00 -
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What?!?! A Thorax not deploying 8 Heavy Drones?!?! What the hell? Screw that!!! Don't use a Thorax if you ain't carrying heavy drones. The Frigate Pods and cans should've been everywhere..... Hahaha |

Shizakri D'han
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Posted - 2003.09.10 02:58:00 -
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I am not sure if that was us. My CEO says it likely was, as we had a Kestrel et. al. running around.
Sounds like you caught us on a good day. Heh. More often than not its us flaming in space. But we can put it to people who aren't ready for it... even when its Battleships.
Usually they call in massive amounts of help (which is completely understandable) and we have to get out.
For instance... here's what happened today:
There were five MF out and about who went looking for 4 S folks that we had seen in a nearby system. (Keep in mind we don't always plan on winning... just fighting and letting the chips fall where they may). One was in a Dominix, and he was the only one we saw in system at the time (there may have been othere, but we weren't sure). The Battleship hugged the station, so we couldn't engage with missiles.
But, we decided what the hell and attacked with what we had anyways... knowing we would likely lose.
We managed to jam him, but he had two cruisers on call to help that showed up in 15-20 seconds. These two were likely docked at the station... but we knew that, and still said what the hay.
We stayed and fought until it one of us was destroyed and we lost the jam on the Battleship.
So we tried to bug out. Only three of us managed to warp away safely... sorta. We could have logged out... but we wanted to see if we could get back home. Its easy to log out. Its hard to get home... and very interesting when facing multiple battleships (Arcane Technologies - who is also at war with us - showed up with many, many battleships to jam the way).
They ended up blowing us all up... and podded us all as well. Nice.
We don't mind getting blown up, it comes with the territory. Podding kind of sucks... but it too comes with the territory, we just don't do it... usually. Since Arcane Tech and 4 S see fit to pod us, we shall pod them as well... if, of course, we are lucky enough to kill one of their ships.
Anyway, they chased us all the way back to HQ, where 7 battleships and 2 cruisers sat outside of our station calling us COWARDS(?) for not coming out.
If the situation was reversed... they sure as hell wouldn't have come out.
Usually we will tell people when we are logging so they don't have to sit outside our base and wonder if the fight is over (it seems common courtesy, really - GAME REMEMBER?)... but Arcane Tech, and 4 S waited outside our HQ for over an hour on a foe that had gone to dinner.
The loudest talker of the bunch, lost all of his bravado when all of his buddies left. He feared only one online MF who was getting ready to go out (though he may not have nknow that), because the odds were finally somewhat closer (1 MF versus 1 Megatron... we'll give that a go ).
We don't care that they show up with 7 Battleships and 2 Cruisers, but really... talking smack from the safety of all that metal around you? Come now.
See you all out in space.
"Objects in your rearview mirrors are likely just as small as they appear to be." - Mercenary Frigates.
"Providing the Galaxy with a never-ending source of Bio-mass." - Mercenary Frigates.
****akri D'han [email protected]
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Jael Markinsen
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Posted - 2003.09.10 03:20:00 -
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Mad Props to you Mercenary frigates guys for doing that kinda stuff against crazy odds, It's stuff like that keeps you from being bored with the humdrum of the game.
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Angel X
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Posted - 2003.09.10 07:26:00 -
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Hunting in frigates is the only way to do it, about the only problem we have is that it takes so long to kill a stranded ship that help usually turns up, or if you attack at a belt those pesky NPC can really screw your day.
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s0cks
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Posted - 2003.09.10 07:57:00 -
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I think Arcane Tech. needs to realize that if they have 3 or 4 battleships and 2 or 3 cruisers then we are NOT gonna fight. Sure frigates are cheap, but not cheap enough for obvious suicide runs.
If however, Arcane showed up with 5 or 6 frigates. Then that would be a fair fight, and the best would win. And even if Arcane lost (in frigates), my respect for them, which is currently at 0, would shoot through the roof.
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s0cks
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Posted - 2003.09.10 11:55:00 -
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Quote: What?!?! A Thorax not deploying 8 Heavy Drones?!?! What the hell? Screw that!!! Don't use a Thorax if you ain't carrying heavy drones. The Frigate Pods and cans should've been everywhere..... Hahaha
Oh and btw mate.. you cannot launch your drones if you are completely target jammed just so you know for the future.
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Noobious
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Posted - 2003.09.10 12:00:00 -
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Remember we play to win, not to be fair lol
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Saturnius Andronicus
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Posted - 2003.09.10 12:03:00 -
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Edited by: Saturnius Andronicus on 10/09/2003 12:04:36
Quote: ...We don't care that they show up with 7 Battleships and 2 Cruisers, but really... talking smack from the safety of all that metal around you? Come now.
Excellent Post! made me smile to realise that other people out there actually play this as a game, and not some virtual dollhouse that some of the carebear corps seem intent on turning EVE into..
Only got one thing to say to carebears - go Play Sims Online, its more your level.
Nice one ****akri - next time we are on a raiding spree, I'll see if you wanna come along 
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Seer
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Posted - 2003.09.10 12:13:00 -
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Quote: The loudest talker of the bunch, lost all of his bravado when all of his buddies left. He feared only one online MF who was getting ready to go out (though he may not have nknow that), because the odds were finally somewhat closer (1 MF versus 1 Megatron... we'll give that a go ).
LMFAO!!!!!
I was that megathron who remained after all his colleagues and the other corp had left for bed/work/interesting things to do - the only MF in the system was omri who had been docked for the last 2 hours and CLAIMED to have gone out to the movies 45 minutes earlier lol. All other of your members in the system LOGGED OUT and had done for well over 40 minutes.
Perhaps, just perhaps I left due to complete and utter boredom after waiting 2 hours for a fight only to find the brave words of MF never ever match their actions? ---------------------------------------------------
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Taliranowe Sarum
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Posted - 2003.09.10 12:40:00 -
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So you sit there gloating that you camped a station that contained 1 frig pilot in your megathron battleship????
Talk about schoolyard bully syndrome. Read the Rules Of Conduct and Terms Of Usage
"There is TONS of flaming, personal abuse and other bad behaviour on the In-game board and in In-game world. If everybody would just read the rules and follow them, the EVE world be a much nicer place to be in."
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Seer
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Posted - 2003.09.10 13:10:00 -
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Jeez learn to read before making yourself look a fool.
Initially when all the others had left there were 5 of them docked in the station (the same number they claim they can kill a BS with) and one who warped in and then out again...
But one by one they log off.... until only omri (who no doubt was watching power rangers the movie at the cinema) remained...... then I left....
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Saturnius Andronicus
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Posted - 2003.09.10 13:13:00 -
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Quote: So you sit there gloating that you camped a station that contained 1 frig pilot in your megathron battleship????
Talk about schoolyard bully syndrome.
I felt like saying it.. you did.. I don't need too.
The guys in frigates show some real backbone.. respect!!
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Saturnius Andronicus
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Posted - 2003.09.10 13:14:00 -
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Edited by: Saturnius Andronicus on 10/09/2003 13:16:26 - removed duplicate
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Saturnius Andronicus
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Posted - 2003.09.10 13:15:00 -
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Quote: Jeez learn to read before making yourself look a fool.
He didn't ... you have.

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darth solo
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Posted - 2003.09.10 15:14:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: What?!?! A Thorax not deploying 8 Heavy Drones?!?! What the hell? Screw that!!! Don't use a Thorax if you ain't carrying heavy drones. The Frigate Pods and cans should've been everywhere..... Hahaha
Oh and btw mate.. you cannot launch your drones if you are completely target jammed just so you know for the future.
I dont think you are right my friend, even if you have the target locked down im sure you can still launch drones, I dont attack thorox's because of this in my BB, remember!! your drones attack the ship attacking you even without a target lock.
I am not a drone user, so i apologise if i am incorrect.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.09.10 15:21:00 -
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Interesting question. I honestly don't know (yet). Haven't been EW:ed for any longer periods of time.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Shizakri D'han
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Posted - 2003.09.10 15:28:00 -
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Quote: I was that megathron who remained after all his colleagues and the other corp had left for bed/work/interesting things to do - the only MF in the system was omri who had been docked for the last 2 hours and CLAIMED to have gone out to the movies 45 minutes earlier lol. All other of your members in the system LOGGED OUT and had done for well over 40 minutes.
Seer: I didn't name you specifically for the purpose of not shaming you. If you want to do it yourself... well, I can't help that now can I?
Read very carefully what you typed. It is the truth... but maybe you just don't realize how sad it is really.
Four of the MF were Euro folk who had crashed (Um... poor choice of words for a ship pilot)... er, went to sleep, and logged off. When this happens we will USUALLY inform the bad guys that we have been fighting with that this is the case so they won't wastetheir time.
But your groups words (incessant chest beating... btw, stop wincing every time you hit yourself... it loses the effect), and the podding of our pilots, made the MF feel less than gentlemanly about the whole ordeal, and we decided to make you suffer a bit...
...because we knew you couldn't pass up an unfair fight.
According to YOUR QUOTE, you waited OVER 40 minutes on ONE frigate pilot in your battleship! Wow. That IS impressive.
Remember Seer... its chest thump then MEAN face.
Not chest thump - wince like a girl.
"Objects in your rearview mirrors are likely as small as they appear to be" - Mercenary Frigates
****akri D'han [email protected]
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Vito GF
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Posted - 2003.09.10 15:32:00 -
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I had 6 frigs try to kill me in aunenen, was the funniest thing i have seen in the game so far. i killed all 6 in a matter of seconds, and gave them a mil for the fun. Frigate killers? now thats funny as hell.
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Seer
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Posted - 2003.09.10 15:49:00 -
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Just one more question........
..... how can people who have logged off/crashed/insert appropriate bull here undock, crap their pants then dock again? How can they talk in the local channel??
You using macro's? cos if you are I think a GM should know :P
Like I said twisted twisted view of reality (for the benefits of this board no doubt) and completely unbelievable.
Just give us the fight you beg for - thats all we ask!!!!! ---------------------------------------------------
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Seer
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Posted - 2003.09.10 15:50:00 -
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Sitting in a station takes backbone?
Must be playing special carebear rules me thinks :/ ---------------------------------------------------
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s0cks
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Posted - 2003.09.10 16:28:00 -
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Lol Seer, stop making a fool of yourself. Anyway.. latest update:
- 2x thorax - 1x vexor
killed them today (not podded) with 3 frigates. unfortuantly no-one we are at war with so i took a bad sec. hit. guess i'll have to be good for a while.. hehe.
about the whole drones thing... i may appear to be wrong because these people did launch drones... however the drones did not attack. i believe they only attack if they were launched beforehand. so keep in ur drone bay if your jammed.
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Vaenesa
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Posted - 2003.09.10 16:38:00 -
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Quote: Sitting in a station takes backbone?
Must be playing special carebear rules me thinks :/
Before you go any further...let me ask you...who si more of a *****...the Frigates that attacked the BS and ran to hide in the station, or the groups of BS's that think they are powerful because they are making a buncha frigates hide? Silence yourself before you make yourself look like any more of a fool.
Vae 
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Morat
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Posted - 2003.09.11 07:05:00 -
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Hey guys, just a little heads up for you frigate users. Take care going against missile cruisers after the next patch. I went up against a raven in a punisher last night on chaos. Even though i had the punisher kitted out for extreme speed (4x32m/s overdrives and 2x 30% afterburners and nav 4) and was orbiting at 500m ( and orbit almost works properly now) the missiles got to me damned quickly.
----------------------------------------- If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, shoot it, it might move later. |

Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2003.09.11 07:36:00 -
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Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 11/09/2003 07:47:11
Hmm as a member of Mercenery frigates (need to leave tho which sucks) and a participant of the attack on that wimpy dominix and his 2 omen lackeys...
I just wanna say this.. My punisher woulda escaped clean if I hadn't CTDd in front of an Arcane Technologies Armageddon going 800+ m/s on autopilot... 
He of course blew my ship up and podded me. (wouldn't have been able to if autopilot had worked) So now Tyrrax has been podded twice in 7 months of play (520k isk clones) 
I just love how the only times I have ever gotten podded were both due to Battleships in addition to CTDs (first time 3 days ago when I lost my crucifier to a CTD) and my pod got locked and warp disrupted and blasted to pulp on my way home (by a CFS battleship).. second time 2 days ago when I lost my Punisher+pod to a CTD (didn't even see the armageddon lock me after )
Arcane Technologies are wimps.. :P
Oh and those two thoraxes were fun to kill :) Both good sports too... Well the first one was a very good sport anyway.. Actually enjoyed being killed by us and learned to respect frigs... :) No smack talk from him.. and he had the sense to self-destruct so we only got 3 hammerheads from him :P All in all a very enjoyable and worthy opponent/victim.. 
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2003.09.11 07:49:00 -
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Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 11/09/2003 07:50:47
Quote: Hey guys, just a little heads up for you frigate users. Take care going against missile cruisers after the next patch. I went up against a raven in a punisher last night on chaos. Even though i had the punisher kitted out for extreme speed (4x32m/s overdrives and 2x 30% afterburners and nav 4) and was orbiting at 500m ( and orbit almost works properly now) the missiles got to me damned quickly.
Thanks for the heads up, maybe you should train acceleration control ? My afterburners give me 43.7% speed increase (basic ones not lif) with lvl 3 accel contr
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.09.11 08:18:00 -
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"Thanks for the heads up, maybe you should train acceleration control ? "
... Will not help with the new missiles; unless you can jam your target, (and they don't happen to have FoF missiles on them) or shoot from far enough distance to have room for some defender missiles... going against heavy missile carrier you're pretty much as good as dead.
Then again, not like it's that different from the usual MO... :s
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Shock
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Posted - 2003.09.11 09:06:00 -
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What kind of missiles? I think heavies should be to fight against cruisers or frigates at long distance.
The light missiles should be anti-frigate. --- soonÖ |

lunaloner
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Posted - 2003.09.11 11:33:00 -
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to socks and other mf fighters.
i was a member of shadow industries until last weekend.
the ceo declared war on you then resigned. he did it as a parting gift th the corp. i have a lot of friends in shadow who are hurt by his actions and feel stabbed inthe back.
rage who lost his thorax to you is a good friend of mine and did not want the war. if yu can contact sardinok or myself in game. i hope we can clear this situation up and hope it wont escalate as the old ceo Mr Mordan who sanctioned the act has left and is with W.M.S. now.
i hope some arrangement can be produced.
luna
oh shhhhhhiiiii, i got klingons on my starboard bow. the mrs will kill me. |

Arud
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Posted - 2003.09.11 11:36:00 -
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yes you bastards
that second thorax belonged to my corp, if I hadnt been so bloody hell far away I would have come and wiped you out... of about 600k, these frigates are so cheap, have to try this someday
but I wonder, it was in 0.2 sec space, didnt concord come to get you?
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Arud
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Posted - 2003.09.11 11:38:00 -
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or was it the first thorax, judging by your description it might have been that one
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.09.11 13:09:00 -
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"What kind of missiles?"
All, unfortunately... unless it was somewhat tuned in the latest Chaos build, even the torpedoes have no problem with hitting the frigate orbitting at really small radius and high speed :/
"I think heavies should be to fight against cruisers or frigates at long distance.
The light missiles should be anti-frigate."
Aye, at least this way there would be some use for the light missiles....
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Ulalume
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Posted - 2003.09.11 15:00:00 -
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Quote: but I wonder, it was in 0.2 sec space, didnt concord come to get you?
Concord don't care in 0.4 or below, unless you do it right under thier noses.
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Leellu Multipass
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Posted - 2003.09.11 15:03:00 -
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Yes Vaxhinsul, it was probably us, the Red Snapper.
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Fire Fly
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Posted - 2003.09.11 15:18:00 -
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hehe good show but othing like what me and khan did last night in a .2 me and him in moas just about took out a armagedon named swash had him warp jammed and all guns and missles flying he got down to only 20% armor/hull and luck be on his side cause unfortunaly for us he got out of warp scrabble range ;/ would have been some great drops o well next time he wont be so lucky
m0o Where are you? |

s0cks
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Posted - 2003.09.11 15:39:00 -
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Quote: or was it the first thorax, judging by your description it might have been that one
First one we pounced on, the other two we invited to fight at the sun/planet, and they came, thinking they could beat frigates .
If it was the first then respect, this guy knew how to die (self-destruct, and he didnt launch any useless drones, and he didnt talk smack).
The other two were a bit stupid to come to the fight, but they took it on the cheek too. All in all, a good hunt.
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Digital Flare
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Posted - 2003.09.11 18:20:00 -
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So tell me, if let's say that your prey got one of you targeted before you jammed him, would he still be able to launch drones at you since you were already targeted?
Just a thought...
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darth solo
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Posted - 2003.09.11 20:33:00 -
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Im sure that even when u are target locked your drones still attack the ship attacking you.
This is why i dont attack a throx in my bb.
Im sure that this is the case.
Correct me if im wrong:)
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John Zeppe
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Posted - 2003.09.11 21:08:00 -
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It doesn't matter how jammed you are, when you got jammed etc. Launch yer drones and watch the enemy die... Hopefully.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.09.11 21:44:00 -
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Is it true that MF have been reported to GM's for using the "two people using energy neutralizers on one person" exploit?
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Fetty Chico
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Posted - 2003.09.11 21:50:00 -
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and to think.. a few weeks ago people was talking trash to me about staying in a rifter.. now mf is crushing people
------------------------------------------------ Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly - the ill deeds, along with the good - and let me be judged accordingly.
If this world was supposed to be friendly CCP wouldnt have wasted time paying the devs to code so many weapons |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.09.11 21:51:00 -
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Are you still selling corpses?
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

s0cks
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Posted - 2003.09.11 22:10:00 -
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Edited by: s0cks on 11/09/2003 22:11:01
Quote: Im sure that even when u are target locked your drones still attack the ship attacking you.
This is why i dont attack a throx in my bb.
Im sure that this is the case.
Correct me if im wrong:)
After a lot of fighting (and tbh mainly gallente ships) i'm pretty certain that the following applies with drones:
- if drones are out, and a person begins to jam then the drones WILL attack that person
- if drones are in the drone bay and the person is jammed those drones are able to be launched, but will NOT attack anything.
I'm pretty sure of this because when people have launched drones after we have jammed them, they just fly around, we shoot em to bits for a while, then that person drags em back in. If already launched before we jam them, then they start to eat us frigates.
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UnFriendly Fire
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Posted - 2003.09.11 22:38:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 11/09/2003 07:47:11
I just love how the only times I have ever gotten podded were both due to Battleships in addition to CTDs (first time 3 days ago when I lost my crucifier to a CTD) and my pod got locked and warp disrupted and blasted to pulp on my way home (by a CFS battleship)..
We(CFS) didn't mean to pod you, we were under orders to not pod actually (since you guys don't), hence why I didn't waste you in the asteroid belt. :P But the battleship didn't know you were in a pod and locked with the threat indicator so he didn't actually see your icon.
Such is life. ;)
It was a fun chase, ****akri was my corpmates first ever PvP kill. :P
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Shizakri D'han
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Posted - 2003.09.11 23:49:00 -
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Quote: ****akri was my corpmates first ever PvP kill. :P
He couldn't have popped his cherry on a more handsome, intelligent... um... modest pilot in the whole galaxy! My regards to Smiling Amarr! 
****akri D'han [email protected]
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Skelator
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Posted - 2003.09.12 10:18:00 -
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Quote: So you sit there gloating that you camped a station that contained 1 frig pilot in your megathron battleship????
Talk about schoolyard bully syndrome.
Heh Thats Honorable.... Not

They have us Surrounded again.. the Poor Bastards |

Seer
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Posted - 2003.09.12 23:12:00 -
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Those who wish to belive the lies and bravado of the ****y Rigs fine, for those with an ear or eye for the truth read the logs in my other post...
For all else - my guns will do the talking and your bank balance will tell the story :P ---------------------------------------------------
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Rizzo
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Posted - 2003.09.13 15:08:00 -
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Quote: hehe good show but othing like what me and khan did last night in a .2 me and him in moas just about took out a armagedon named swash had him warp jammed and all guns and missles flying he got down to only 20% armor/hull and luck be on his side cause unfortunaly for us he got out of warp scrabble range ;/ would have been some great drops o well next time he wont be so lucky
Lol, was the Armageddon afk or something? I got Genghis Kahn's Moa down to about 50% structure last night when he jumped my Thorax, and I had a pretty crappy setup with only 3 heavy drones. ;-D
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Fire Fly
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Posted - 2003.09.13 22:11:00 -
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lol yea he told me about it but u see u the one who got whooped and u only got him down because of the drones and nothing else other then that u got whooped one on one with him big time
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Rizzo
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Posted - 2003.09.14 20:22:00 -
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Edited by: Rizzo on 14/09/2003 20:28:18 Lol. Of course I got whomped by him. I was on my first ever solo npc hunt with a pretty poor setup. A well set up solo kestral could probably have taken me out. My point is that if he had that much trouble killing me you guys must have been very lucky against a battlehip ;-D He should think himself lucky he met me, had that been a better equiped ship he attacked he'd have been toast in about 20 seconds flat ;-D
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